On Bridget's Yahoo group she has denied the rumors about she and Kendra leaving anytime soon:

She also said that they will be filming their Valentine's Day activities for the show.

LOL, murphsully!
Yeah, I guess Hef and co. will have to show up at the funeral. I wonder if PB will do an ANS tribute issue?

I read that they are already planning one but are having problems figuring out when it could be released, since the April issue is already out and the May one is ready to be shipped. So I guess it will be awhile.

The dude is 80, eventually IS now.

See drugged out is how I picture it ending for one of the GND. The lifestyle just can't be maintained. I mean who could keep it up. I guess that is why Hef put the gals on the 9pm in house rule. Who could keep up the drinking (drugs) and partying and not suffer.....

Which gals is most likely to fall?


I think Kendra. To young, no guidance.....very suspect.

None of them strike me as too at risk, they don't really seem like much partiers at all. However, if one is more at risk, agreed, its Kendra.

I see it another way, GreekGal. I assume that Hef has the girls on curfew so they are kept on a leash. I see it less of a Daddy-Really-Cares mentality and more of a You-Will-Do-What-I-Tell-You-Or-Your-Ass-Is-Out-Of-Here rule. Of course, we only get a snippet of what really goes on (if it's really REAL, at all), but I'm sure there is a laundry list of rules and guidelines he has the girls abide by. If they want to participate on the Wednesday night baby oil/anal/orgy fest freak show, they most likely have to sign on many dotted lines and live by a certain mantra or else Hef will start leafing through the huge pile of wanna-be girlfriend applicants.

I just saw the baby oil! Its a huge, economy size bottle on the shelf right above Hef's bed on the episode when the girls are on Loveline and Hef dials in. I'm totally creeped out right now.

I know Holly seems to be madly in love with Hef, and I don't doubt that there is a deep attachment that really could be true love, BUT - her intense desire to have his baby, knowing full well that he won't be around to help raise him/her, and watch him/her grow up, makes me believe that she wants to make DAMN sure she gets a good chunk of money upon his demise, especially after all the years she put into being the Number ONE gal and such.

I mean, his ex, (err..I mean current wife, since they aren't divorced), bore him two sons, and there's no doubt that's where the bulk of the money and empire will go (plus his two other 'adult' children), so without a marriage certificate or a child, Holly would probably be walking away with a 'parting gift' (aka - a much smaller amount of money than she thinks she's worth, and maybe the bottle of baby oil) at most.

Holly said as much on the Vegas birthday episode. She said there didn't used to be a curfew but Hef had girls who cheated on him and took advantage of him so he instituted the rule.

I think she indicated there were other rules as well.

Hey, I don't blame the guy one bit for instituting that curfew.
I'd consider pushing it up to 10pm, since 9pm seems a bit extreme for grown adults, but he still needs to have thta rule well in place, lest the gals are out on the town alone and suddenly feel the need to get flirty and frisky with other LA dudes.
He used to let the girls do their own thing, and look what happened there, after all---they just used him and drained him and ran off with their spoils.

If he has the money and power to pay these girls to be his "official" girlfriends and keep them up, the least they can do is stay faithful to him and not play around behind his back.
I'm sure as I'm sitting here that Kendra would most definitely be taking advantage of a non-curfew and having a bit of athlete/rapper romps on the side if she didn't have to be back home by 9pm or stuck with the Playboy bunch in VIP when they all go out clubbing.

I think the curfew (and all the rules related to keeping a bevy of girls at his disposal) is ridiculous. If he wants to be the world's advocate of free love and have multiple girlfriends then it should be fine for the girls to have multiple boyfriends.

And until the girls start buying HIM cars and paying him a weekly allowance and keeping HIM up financially, I just don't think that argument sticks. If they're going to live on his dollar, they should be prepared to play by his rules.

But has it been considered that these girls are probably technically employees of Playboy Inc. LLC whatever and are being paid via the magazine and not from Hef's personal checking account? Something tells me tht Hef isn't just giving cash to the ladies for doing miscellaneous mansion chores (cleaning up the monkey cages, plucking the peacocks, feeding the fish, mowing the backyard, etc.--although, Kendra would probably love revving up the old John Deere). That said though, the girls certainly seem to acquiesce to the requisite guidelines to be an established 'girlfriend.' I just think that a 9pm curfew is a bit excessive. If this were some rigid Christian household, I'd think otherwise. Anyway, I'm just sayin'....Hef might be big boss-man editor, but he ain't the accountant. I'm sure the girls are locked-down forever under the debit column.


Random question--Hef is always seen drinking Pepsi. Does he drink alcohol at all? The program will certainly show the girls toss back crappy shots but when does Hef throw down? Eh, maybe he reserves all his wild crazy shit for the bedroom hijinks.

I think I've read that he drinks Jack and Coke.

Yeah, I remember seeing the really cool butler guy pack up Jack and Coke for trips with, like, page long instructions on how to make Mr. Hefner's drinks. Plus, I'm pretty sure I remember him doing a shot with the girls in the episode with the visiting test Playmates.

I can't believe I remember these things.

On another (bizarre) note, I somehow wound up at a strip club earlier this weekend, and 3/5 strippers had a Playboy bunny tramp stamp, just like Holly's. She'd be so proud. (It's a long story.)

If it is supposedly a relationship that's a pretty one-sided one. So, because he pays their rent, they have no rights and he can treat them however he wants?

The concept of being "faithful" to a man with his own harem is surreal.
I believe that's called indentured servitude. And that's illegal.

And if they all openly admitted that this was the deal (which I think it is), then I personally wouldn't like it but would at least respect that everyone is choosing that set-up.

The part I can't stand is that they all pretend like they really love each other, like its a real relationship. I just wish they'd call it what it is.

Yes, that's disgusting. If he insists on treating them like children, they will eventually rebel and embarrass him by cheating openly on him or writing a tell-all book. Oops, that's already happened...

That's the problem with trying to have your cake and eat it too. You can't have 3, 4, 5 girlfriends and expect them all to "love" you and you alone. People don't operate that way. He needs to just settle down and act like an adult (I can't believe I'm saying this about an 80-year-old man!).

The operative phrase 'treating them like children' is an interesting one. I've always noticed how Hef and the girls 'kiss.' Or well, they are more like pecks one would give their Dad or Grandfather. There appears to be no romance or sexual attraction whatsover in those little exchanges. This could be a potentially disgusting query but...do you think they open-mouth kiss during the weekly fluid-swapping sessions?

I know it is a typo, but I am STILL laughing over here. Sometimes unintentional humor is even funnier than witticisms.



Potentially?

Ew.

and, EW!!

Somehow that image is worse than all the baby oil references combined.

You owe me some brain bleach, higgledy74

In Jill Ann Spaulding's book, she said he and Holly would engage in intensely deep tongue kissing at the start of the orgy. *shudder*

The Girls Next Door Season Two to be released 05/01/07 according to this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-...p;s=dvd#gallery

It's hard to look at Holly in the same way after reading that chapter. Actually, it's hard to look at Holly at all after reading that chapter.

is it me or does Holly look really strange in that picture? Cute DVD cover-I like it.

Do you mean because she looks like she's about to let out a moan? Well then, I don't think Holy looks any stranger than usual.

The transformation of Holly!! From Fugly to ...meh. I think the biggest help was getting some eyebrows. That's why Hef won't have babies with her -- they might come out with her old face.

It's funny, but in the second picture, she looks a lot like Heffner... Something about the nose and smile.

First time poster in this forum...I made the mistake of skimming through Jill Ann's book and it made me feel queasy and dirty all at the same time. I thought she was a world class fame whore, but at the same time her story rang true. I really don't think she had "the look," no matter how many times she insisted she did. I only have to wonder who will become the top dog, sex toy washer, anal finale girl if Holly ever does carry Hef's child (a long shot at best). Many STDs can cause serious, serious birth defects. You have to wonder if raising a severely handicapped child is part of Holly's long range plan.

It must not be too far out of the picutre, she's putting up with stroked out Hef.

Can someone give me the link to join Bridget's Yahoo group? I wanted to ask her a few questions.

Just saw the workout video episode for the first time last night, and Holly was cracking me up. She always feels the need to beat it into our heads that she RARELY works out, y'all.

I guess having the anal edge is workout enough...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brie/

Because I was bored, here is the Microsoft Maps aerial of the PB mansion:
Playboy Mansion
I think Aaron Spelling's digs are right by there too.

atlanta

link no good. :(

was hoping to see the freaky aviary.

Hmmm... go here maps.live.com and type in 10236 Charing Cross Road, Los Angeles, CA.

The link is coming up for me, but that link and putting the addy in should get your there. You can see the pool, trampoline, what I think is Kimberly's house, etc.

I recently finished the Jill Ann Spaulding "book" (if one can even call it that) and let's say that I'm disturbed. Is it wrong that I'm more disturbed about the horrid writing and grammatical errors than I am about the content? In all seriousness, though, I had to laugh as I had tivoed the GNS episode where Kendra et al go to Vegas for her 21st birthday. I love how Holly stated that she has "a lot of responsibilities at the mansion" and can't afford to be away for the night. Alleged responsibilities: running baths, keeping fresh towels in bowl next to bed, lubing Hef, etc.

I don't know that I can believe Ms. Spaulding's story. It seems too outlandish. I can't understand why someone that was so vehement against the happenings of Wednesday and Friday nights would continue to return to the mansion again and again. Where can I get my hands on this Izabella book?

From a few pages back where somebody said the girls were paid by Playboy-Izabella makes it quite clear that Hef pays for them out of his personal money and even pays rent on their rooms since the corporation owns the mansion.

Also, I believe JillAnne's story more since it is so similar to Izabella's. What JillAnne never seems to get is that sleeping with Hef doesn't get you into the magazine. She keeps thinking it is a casting couch where the Girlfriends eventually get to be Playmates, when it is pretty clear that even if you do sleep with Hef, it doesn't guarantee you a Playmate slot.

I actually was driven past the Playboy Mansion last week while I was in LA by a friend, and they are indeed almost around the corner from one another. You can't see much of the mansion from the road, just a few chimney tops, but there is a huge and prominently lit American flag in the front.

I was there the day after Anna Nicole Smith died, and I half expected black ribbons or something. Alas, nothing of the sort. I did learn that the security guards tell girls who come up to the gate to flash their boobs, though. I mean, why not? They've got to stay entertained somehow.

I don't think either Bridget or Kendra will be ok- I doubt they have saved any of their allowances. Ho clothes, grills and baby outfits and cradles for stuffed animals are expensive you know.
Kendra probably has the best shot at supporting herself only by hooking up with some rapper or athlete. Bridget, unless she is the best actress in the history of the world, is not playhing dumb, but is dumb. Her degrees don't mean anything. I think she'll flounder around trying to act or model, and then finally return to her husband or hit the pole or do porn.
I would love to see a reality show staring just Holly and Hefner, and their baby if they have one. Oh, please reality show gods, please let this trainwreck of supposed glamour come to be.

She probably wasn't as disgusted as she portrayed. Going back week after week was her way of working up the motivation to participate in the orgy.

hendersonrocks, A few years ago we were in LA and did one of those tours and drove by and that's how I knew about the Aaron Spelling thing. Heck, maybe that's how Tori cultivated her bleach-blond PB look? LOL!

I'm really curious as to what happens to Bridget and Kendra after all of it ends. If Hef releases them amicably due to just being tired of the whole multi-gf thing, do they get to keep their cars and other stuff? Surely Bridget can do something with those degrees. She should have been using this free ride at the mansion to do some internships or dues-paying jobs in communications. Maybe PB will hire her as a PR person? Kendra still has a few years of lingerie and bikini modeling at least.

I can see her doing Plushie porn -- 'cause of the costumes.

I thought briefly that Playboy might hire her to work on a channel or in PR...but after all those degrees, she still doesn't have any experience in the field. And the few times she's been shown getting the chance to do hosting she didn't seem very skilled at reading the cue cards. Even when they visited Chi-town and visited the Mancow radio show, she didn't do very well reading a script. Also, Playboy isn't in the habit of putting 40 year olds (well, women at least) on TV.

You can get it on Amazon- it's called Bunny Tales. I just finished it. Very insightful.

After reading Izabella's book, I've been going back and re-watching some episodes of GND, and it's definitely making it more interesting. I see Holly in a whole different light. She's conniving and sometimes just out and out mean. And I wanted to slap her in the episode when she put on the bunny costume after everyone told her not to.

Why am I not surprised?

Can someone tell me what the sheets or pieces of fabric on the house are covering up?

Gargoyles

Statues of Colonel Sanders?

Hi, everyone.

Old-time TWoPper here, and I'm glad I have an excuse to post again. I stopped watching TV when The Osbournes went downhill and TLC put Mippy Dippy on speed... GND actually got me through a minor bout of depression, so for that I'm thankful.

I realize this forum is about the snark, and I'm far from a GND apologist, but I do have a couple of philisophical questions. What goes on behind Hugh Hefner's door is his business, and while it may not be what you do, it certainly seems pretty vanilla. Anal sex? Big deal. I'd be grossed out if they were bringing the peacocks or monkeys up there, but group sex with a bunch of girls who are nominally his girlfriends? It doesn't seem that shocking to me. I know several men who wouldn't mind trading spaces with him, no matter what they might say when their wives are around. Laying there like a fish while they hop on pop? He's old!

Or is it the age thing? If he were 40, would it be less of an issue for people?

I can't discount the issue of trading sex for money, but I also wonder: if your partner were 30 years older than you, would you still want to be with them? Still have children by them? I'm pretty sure I'd still like to be with my partner, although the likelihood of it happening would be a lot smaller...

I have the benefit of watching these once they were all in reruns, so I didn't get to seem them unfold chronologically. I did read every post here (pathetic, but the quality tends to be great, so it's worth it -- and plus, where else am I gonna find out what goes on behind the scenes?) and it seems that as time has gone by, people have softened their outlooks on the girls.

Holly genuinely seems to care about Hef. The thought of raising a kid alone probably stinks, but it's some tangible part of someone she really cares about she can have long after he's gone. Who knows, though, the guy may live another decade or two. He's doing a lot better than my grandfather at that age!

When people ask how these girls can give up the best years of their lives I think the answer is pretty obvious: they want to! A good life is a relative thing. The lady next door has similar issues, but I'd characterize her decision to keep a neighborhood-terrorizing pit bull and stockholm syndrome-inducing hustler around as... worse -- I'd take any of the GND... next door. Consider yourself fortunate to be able to be able to luxuriate in a pool of intellectual snark. And that begs the question: what is the demographic around here?

I like Bridget, although sometimes I really wish she'd grow up. It does surprise me that she's my age, but it goes to show that even Hef has changed, or at least doesn't go by hard or fast age rules. Maybe it's because he knows the other side of it? Or maybe he likes having someone who is generally sweet. (I don't discount that she and Holly can be conniving or manipulating, but I've never met a single person who hasn't been one, both or either -- none of us are saints.) Her pets are obvious proxies, but she seems to be a decent and doting owner. It's more than I can say about the relationship between the hustler and the pit bull next door.

Kendra. is. a. dope. But god love her for being her dopey self. I'd keep her around for her energy. I get the sense Hef does too.

Okay, onto more trite things:

Jill Ann must be blind. Poor thing.

Kendra looks like a slit-eyed snake or rat on occasion when her eyeliner is overdone and her hair is pulled tight. Ugh. She does clean up nicely.

Barbi Benton was SUCH a disappointment! I was hoping that she'd behave a little more like Elvira did when she showed up. I watched the THS on Hef before seeing Barbi on the show, and she came off as intelligent and well-spoken. To see her behave like a desperate, aged has-been was just too disappointing.

Elvira ROCKS! For 60, she looks great!

What was the publication order of Jill Ann and Izabella's books? Anyone posited that one may have copied the other?

My suspicion is that Holly and Hef will be married with children as soon as his second set are 18 years of age and he can divorce Kimberly without the issue of child support and custody battle -- it certainly reduces the number of contentious issues in a divorce.

I can't wait until the new season starts, and I'm looking forward to the reruns now that I'm armed with new things to keep an eye out for. (Baby oil, old furniture, nasty carpets -- wow is my life interesting or what?)

Now if TWoP would add RSS feeds for forums... why they didn't recap this show, I don't know.

Thanks for reading!

Emptied industrial-sized vats of baby lotion?