I read a lot of that online book someone linked to (thanks for the link). Wow.

I can see why "Hef" hasn't disputed it - it must play right into his Pimp O'The Universe self-image. But it sure does make it difficult to watch TGND and not want to decon like Silkwood afterward.

I can see now why Bridget's little sister did not hug Hefner first after her 'makeover'. She hugged her mother. Maybe someone tipped her off that she doesn't want to cozy up too much to that man. Not unless she wants to become the newest bordello-mate.

Really odd that Bridget's mom knows all about this (apparently) and even says she is proud of her daughter. According to that book, Bridget says she "comes from a trailer trash background". If the book's correct, the women living at the mansion, and exchanging unsafe group sex for rent, come from an array of troubled lives. It just makes the whole thing really sad - rather than a cute show where bimbii dress up in Trashy Lingerie to give an ego boost to a soft porn dinosaur. Eck. They're being used.

Why am I still watching this show? My friends and I just sit and laugh, point, sneer, and jeer these women. It's girls like this that make men think we are all idiots. I wish I could give them all a fork and lock them in an empty room with nothing but an electrical socket!

I don't know why I watch this show anymore either. All of the bits have gotten old and you realize none of these women have any future whatsoever, although Bridget would make a kickass dog birthday party planner.

I saw Hef's E! THS a while ago and the thing that disturbed me the most were how many of the "girlfriends" and his wife, claimed that Hef was their soulmate. It was at least four or five. Which indicates to me he must really do a good job mentally controlling these already impressionable women. It was like listening to the Death Eaters talk about Lord Voldemort, "No! the Dark Lord loves ME the best! I am the only one who appreciates his love for Flash Gordon!"

Oh, and this show has taught that if you name your daughter either Krystal or Destiny, she will be taking her clothes off for a living.

I just saw the Porsche episode. I'm SOOOOOOOO jealous. I wish MY pimp would buy me a Porsche.


Kendra said: "She deserves it."

Holly said: "Maybe because I live in Beverly Hills, but I'm jaded." She couldn't even pretend for the camera. The jewelry guys are better actors than her.

Kendra lying to her dentist? Tut-tut. You were never a dental assistant. He called you out on it.


Okay, this part just cracked me up: BRIDGET thought the Captain Morgan guy looked ridiculous in a costume. Hello pot, meet kettle.

Only to horses when it is applied to these bimbos.

How sweet it was! You could see the gals at a slow boil too, heh heh.

That's because he wasn't wearing a super-cute cute pink costume...DUH!

Oasis said:

Here's the punchline to that: According Izabella St. James's book, in the days before the Party Posse (the seven girlfriends), Hefner had four girlfriends (the Brande Rodderick, Mandy, Sandy days). Apparently some of them lived with Hefner, got the plastic surgery they wanted (Hef paid), then after he bought them a car (Hef paid) they immediately took off with their cars.

So he's stopped buying girlfriends cars outright. When a girlfriend gets a car, Hef pays the initial downpayment, and pays the monthly fees as long as the girlfriend still lives with him. If the girlfriend leaves, then she has to pay the monthly fees (or pay for the outstanding balance on the car) herself, or the car goes back to the dealer.

So when Hefner "bought" the car for Bridget, he's really paying for the downpayment and the monthly fees. If Bridget leaves before the Porsche is paid off, it goes back to the dealer (unless she can pay for it herself).

"So when Hefner "bought" the car for Bridget, he's really paying for the downpayment and the monthly fees. If Bridgets leaves before the Porsche is paid off, it goes back to the dealer (unless she can pay for it herself)."



That explains why he kept calling it 'a keeper.' He'll keep it, not her. What'll he do with it after she paints it pink and puts bunny stuff all over it?

He'll give it to the next bimbo according to the book. Holly's first car from him was a hand-me-down from (I think) Buffy Tyler.

I just read most of Jill Ann Spaulding's book and my brain is mush. It was so poorly written, but once I was pages in, I couldn't stop! I feel like there could be some truth behind her stories, but she really just wanted to be a part of the whole Playboy experience. I can't shake the image of Hef and baby oil, though. ughhhh!

Hey, did anyone see the episode where hef and the girls were sitting on his bed and their was this bottle of baby oil on the shelf behind them? I nearly died cackling! Also, if you saw it, remind me which episode it was?

Way, way back, someone mentioned that you could see a bottle of babyoil in the background of one of the scenes. I've been looking for it ever since (I don't know why, it's nasty I know, but yet I still search) I have yet to find it so if someone knows what episode it was in, please tell. I'd be interested to see if it has been edited out.

OK, I am reading and enjoying my new book last night, "The Gold Coast", by Nelson DeMille and I get to page 13 and read the sentence: "Yankee has a good temperment, unlike Zanzibar, Susan's high strung Arabian stallion. Yankee can be ridden hard and put away wet without dying of pneumonia, whereas Zanzibar.........." - it cracks me up that I have never heard that expression before this thread and now, its apparently everywhere!

Didn't Kendra come from a troubled background also?

Hef "saved" Kendra from a life on the pole where she was doing some pretty hard drugs, IIRC.

I really don't find that surprising.

Hahahahahaha, I just saw it in the episode that's on right now. It's the one where the girls go to Lodi and meet Bridget's family and stomp wine. Holly calls Puffin and he's sitting on the bed talking to her on the phone, and I could see the Johnsons baby oil bottle behind him. Hahahahahahaha and ewwwww!

LOL!!

I've seen that episode twice already and everytime I laugh out loud and cringe in disgust!

When I first noticed the Baby Oil in that episode, I immediately thought of B/K riding "big daddy" while Holly uses the wash cloth to wipe "big daddy" and the baby oil off his... well you get the picture. EWWWWW!!!

I will never look at a Baby Oil bottle the same way again.

Hee. The Lodi episode is on again now, and I totally just saw the baby oil...ewww...Kendra looks gorgeous, and very natural in this episode, too, which is a nice change. The 3 lbs. of eyeliner doesn't do her any favors in season 2...

So, time for the (hangs head in shame) admission of the day...

Last year, I had a bad day, and was slightly tipsy, and watching TGND, ad Bridget's idiocy cheered me up. So I googled her, found her website, and e-mailed her a "fan letter" waxing rhapsodic about how she portrayed the image of being sexy AND well-educated so well. And I'll be damned if I didn't have a very sweet reply in my inbox the next morning, encouraging me to always pursue further education but not be afraid of my sexuality. And, shockingly, the spelling and grammar was perfect. I'd copy-paste it, but it's on my old (and now dead) laptop.

(hides)

bmb654, that's a really sweet story. Bridget is my favorite.

Where did you guys read the info about Kendra's "Troubled background?" I'm kind of fascinated by her, like I can't believe that someone could be that airheaded. I have always wondered what kind of home she grew up in, since we don't ever see or hear anything about her dad, and her brother seems a bit...off, in my mind.

Why are the girl's room decorated like a 12 year old girl lives in them? Plus all that daddy crap in the book. yuck

To quote Florida Evans: "DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!"

I had that episode on last night but mr. murphsully had no interest in watching it so I turned it off. And I turned the channel just as they showed Hef on the bed. Well, at least I now know which episode to look out for - thanks!

I love the Lodi episode! why?? because I live in Lodi...yes..some of us do, and even admit to it!

The cigar shop she went to is about one block from my boutique I own. It is in a nice part of town, but still is rather creepy.

It was a big ta-do when the girls came to town. We have a Lodi annual festival called the Grape Festival (yeah, I know) The girls really wanted to come to the Grape Fest. while they were here, and there was a big article in the paper about how they were not not let in because the Grape Fest is a "Family" festival. Now, this is a big joke since the festival is totally Crap-tastic. The festival has carnie type atmosphere, complete with the Bud Girls. I dont see how the Bud Girls are more wholesome than Hef's girls, but that is Lodi for you.

I still cant get over the Midsummer's episode and the "transformation/hookerizing" of Ana. Wow, I was speechless. the creepy way that Hef hugged her, and the fact that her mom was ok with it all. The whole thing just totally yeeped me out.

I was watching E! News yesterday and they showed a preview for The Girls Next Door and said season three begins in March.

I lot of families were started because of beer. :-)

see, even with bad baby oil nightmares, I am looking forward to another season. They're fun to watch, I can't lie.

I knew another season was being filmed for this Spring, but I'm still wondering just what in the world the show can possibly offer us at this point...how many cheesy theme parties and wedding/baby showers, wannabe-hip-hop moments with Kendra, akward family visits to the mansion and random trips to Vegas/back to the girls' hometowns/promotional tours can be covered in an interesting manner at this point?
Or will this be the season in which Holly FINALLY gets Hef to acknowledge her need to breed with him??

I dunno...but I DO know that I'm shamelessly psyched for yet another season. I truly do miss seeing these goofy girls enjoy new adventures every Sunday night, I'll just admit it now!

Let the invitro begin!

Baby names? While I am partial to Pluffin Mealticket Hefner. I would suggest for a girl, Bunny Destiny Hefner (want her to have a career after daddy's money is gone) and for a boy, Hugh Jock (well isn't that obvious) Hefner. Get it? Huge jock..hee I am in third grade.

I'm ready for another season too, I look forward to my TGND Sundays. Hopefully February flies by as fast as January did.

Perhaps that is why Hef announced that he wants Holly to bear his children (wink wink wink).

Hee, I must sit right behind you radicalmoderate . Just the mention of Hef's "Hugh Jock" makes me rather nauseous though, joke or not. Throw the baby oil in that thought and I am retching and reaching for the garbage can next to me.

They'll name the baby Johnson N. Johnson after the oil that made it all possible.

Earthmomma I'd like to point out that you are a little obsessed with the oil, just an observation, hee,JK! LOVE the name. Wonder what the N is for? 'Neda nother Viagara' perhaps?

The oil references come from psycho Jill Ann's book. Poor Holly has to clean off Hef's penis with a wet cloth after each girl and re-apply the oil.

Eeeww, I too read Jill Ann's book, well as much as you can read that poorly worded drivel, and everytime I think of Holly I picture her standing next to the old fart with a towel in her hand. Disgusting.

Here is a slightly medical question. Can sperm live covered in baby oil? They might have to have regular people sex once to attempt to impregnate.

I suspect baby oil does not function as spermincide, so I sppse it's possible that a really dedicated groupie could try to impregnate herself by wiping herself down with Hef's dirty hand towels.

Eww, I cannot believe I just typed that!

Count me in among those obsessed with the baby oil. It's just...so gross. Can't they at least use KY? There's been so much progress since the days of baby oil and vaseline.

I think it's one of Hef's weird rituals. Izabella said that he kept their quaaludes wrapped in a piece of kleenex he put in his shirt pocket for their "club nights". Holly got him a fancy pillbox (or maybe it was a hanky, I forget) for some occasion or another, hoping he'd use it to replace the kleenex. Hef thanked her and continued using his kleenex.

I think it's an OCD thing. And maybe a little bit of an old person thing. While it isn't in a sexual way (thank God) my 85-year-old grandmother behaves in a similar fashion. I got her a new pair of oven mits because hers had gigantor holes in them. She thanked me profusely, but to this day she still uses her "good ones" instead. And she takes cough medicine for everything -- headaches, sprains -- because that's what they did when she was a kid.

Hef must have a really strong association with baby oil and the good o'l days.

That actually sounds like fun. I might have to adopt that medical strategy myself...

Too bad Hef doesn't use olive oil - can you imagine how young his penis would look today?

I don't want to imagine anything about Hef's penis!

This thread is giving me nightmares. Seriously.

Season three, though? I am so in, if for nothing else but the snark.

Just started watching this show, but it's good fun laughing at the stupidity. I just wish the show would play it up a little more, like Super Sweet 16 does. I wonder if the show has to be approved by Playboy before it can air?

I've only seen a few episodes, but Kendra really scares me. She looks pretty rough and looks like she would hurt me if I ever met her. Plus the grill thing and her using expressions like "that shoot was off the chain!" really bother. Plus the fact that her MySpace says she graduated HIGH SCHOOL in 2003.

Just thinking about her VERY RECENT high school graduation date makes me sick. How does someone that young even know where to go, or how do they possibly get into the parties where they could even run into Hef and get an invite to be his girlfriend? She must have been a wild child. I know we discussed this before but I don't fully remember. Hasn't she been with him at least 3 years? The man is practically a pedophile.

She was a stripper hired to walk around his birthday party in full-body paint. Guess he saw something special and invited her back. Soon she was part of the stable.

Was this the same birthday party that Jill Ann described in her book?

Hmm, I'm not sure. I think if she had any contact at all with Kendra, she would have mentioned it a few thousand million times. But then, she did talk about a couple of parties with 'painted ladies' so, who knows? I get the impression that the girlfriend overhaul/Kendra addition must have happened JUST after Jill Ann's experience, so Kendra may very well have been around, at least peripherally.

I had a quick look at Jill's ebook, and her first visit to the Mansion was for Hef's birthday party in 2002, and her visit of a few days was shortly after. Hef met Kendra at his birthday party in 2004, when she was 18.

On the respect-o-meter I seem to have continually running in my head, Hef gets an upgrade for NOT adding that Horse face Jill Ann to his stable of girlfriends. But a downgrade for even hiring a naked 18 year old....eew.

Don't even bring up the baby oil. I just deny that so that I can even go on with my life.

I know! She actually put a snippet of an interview with Hef in her book...he was asked about her and he said something like, "Yeah, she asked if she could stay at the mansion so I said sure, and then she turned up and didn't look anything like her picture..." and basically goes on to imply that she begged to participate in "sex night" so he let her. She seems like a really desperate, weird girl. I guess even Hef has standards beyond implants and peroxide. Albeit in a perverted and mysoginistic way.

I wonder why it's so different for women? I'm 31 and the thought of an 18 year-old boy is just DISGUSTING. (Not trying to generalize that ALL men are like that...but you get me.)

I hate to overgeneralize here, but I think it all just comes down to basic genetics and internal gender differences---I've read enough studies to know that men are naturally programmed to prefer younger women if only because men are physically drawn to "fresh" women who can still healthilly reproduce and potentially carry the men's sperm.

Or at least that's what the science books would have us believe...personally, I think it all comes down to women being naturally more mature than men...we don't just want pretty young things---we want stability, strength and someone we can carry on halfway intelligent conversations with on a regular basis!
((or if I really wanted to get on the typical feminazi soapbox, I could drag out the ol' "men are pigs!" debate, har-har...))

Now, normally I would agree with you. I'm pushing 40 and the thought of an 18 year old boy grosses me out. But then I saw those pictures of Harry Potter all grown up........
Just kidding (sort of) although looking is not the same as touching!

All kidding aside, I agree with SunBun.