Playboy supports so many of those girls still!!! Plus, they get invited to parties everyone in L.A. wants an invitation to. Being on Hef's good side is a great place to be, and most girls are smart enough not to burn bridges with him.

That said, I got twenty bucks on Kendra being the next girl to write a book, when she's down on her luck and not bringing in enough stripping to support her drug habit. Maybe we will ALL get lucky and she will get a ghost writer so the world isn't subjected to her "thought" processes.

The only way Hef would get away from paying child support is if he gave up his parental rights. That is what my brother did and LEGALLY he dosen't owe anyone anything.

Did anyone else notice in this weeks episode the look Holly was giving someone (probably Kendra) when she was saying it was the "after party time now"? It was such a bitchy look and I am sure it was directed at Kendra. I had to rewind twice just to look!

I actually can appreciate Bridget's body-it is a little bit more average then stick thin. However when she was doing the Extra interviews she shouldn't have been wearing that Bikini. The back fat was nasty!

I get the feeling that Holly just tolerates Kendra and Bridget, but is counting the days until Hef dumps them and asks her to marry him. I doubt it'll happen. I've noticed these bitchy looks as well, to both Kendra and Bridget. It's funny; in Hef's E! True Hollywood Story (or was it a general E! THS for Playboy?) Holly bashed Hef's wife Kimberly for being unrealistic and expecting Hef to be with only her, yet Holly is showing signs of feeling that way, too. I think Holly is realizing she really doesn't want to share Hef anymore, so maybe she'll have a bit of sympathy for Kimberly. Oh by the way, that THS was when I started really disliking Holly. I thought it was pretty vicious and tacky to bash Kimberly in that interview, knowing that Kimberly and Hef's two boys would watch it/hear about it. She even smirked and said that Hef's marriage to Kimberly was "the worst time of his life". What a bitch. I don't care if Kimberly was a shrew. Holly shouldn't have repeated that on t.v. for the sake of the kids.

I'm surprised we didnt see Destiny at the opening of the Playboy Club? I think Kendra has mentioned before that Destiny lives in Vegas-wouldnt you think she would have been there?

Kendra is my 'friend' on myspace and she sent this bulletin this weekend

i just wanted to clear this up for those who heard the rumor that i was a lesbian hahahhaha!! first of all, this is hilarious, 2nd of all so what if i was lol. 3rd of all, im strictly dickly..well i guess i make out w girls on occasion hahaa but thats not bein lesbian thats havin fun. Ok thats all. have a good rest of the weekend luv ya!!
kdub

sorry if this is a repost, but me thinks the lady doth protest too much!!!!

Thanks, chainey!
I can't wait to read it!

With mad grammar skillz like that, it's probably a good thing she picked a career where people only have to look at her and listening is strictly optional.

My guess? (And this is strictly just my opinion) Hef feels he's too "manly" to get a vasectomy. There are quite a few men out there who feel they'd become less of a man if they got snipped. My best friend's husband is that way, and if she wants sure birth control (she's 32 with 5! kids), she has to get her tubes tied. It would be easier for him to get a snip, but he refuses, saying it would take away his manhood.

Hello everyone. I've been reading the posts for several months and they are way too funny!!! This will be probably be my only post since I am not as clever as everyone who posts...

I read in USA Today yesterday that E! has picked up the GND for a third season. Ten new episodes will premiere in spring. The article also stated that the second season premiere was the network's highest-rated original program telecast since 2003, drawing 1.63 million viewers.

Happy Thanksgiving!

thanks for that info MaidoftheMist. I'm actually happy there's gonna be another season. I like the show and the girls. I just hope there aren't any more Vegas episodes. I think we've had more than enough of those!!

Agreed! But how else will those unfortunate editors cobble together a "story line"? Gizzmo won't stand for a birthday party. Holly must be running out of money to buy white animals for Hef to abuse by keepoig them in those old dirty cages. And Kendra's brain cell must be getting tired at this point.
I think the only things they have left now are: 1) plan a surprise b-day party for Hef, but do such a good job of hiding the pans that he thinks everyone has forgotten and he gets sad and decides to run away from the mansion. Ends with everyone doing the Macarena at the party. 2) Bridgette is scheduled to sing at Christmas services... but the week before she gets laryngitis! Kendra asks Santa to help. And a Christmas miracle happens. 3) they go to hawaii, and do a cave tour and find an carved wooden idol. They decide to keep it but it brings bad luck to Kendra when she competes in a surfing contest.

What a vacus twit. Someone tell Kendra about the use of capital letters, please.

Yup. Still, I agree with the sentiment that she's got the brightest future out of the three: she could easily do sports commentating or, if she could get her shit together, do a *real* workout video.

I liked the last episode, it made me STILL wanna wear one of those damn bunny costumes!


I just wasn't cool with people bringing their children there...something wasn't consistent about that!


I remember when Sable from WWF posed and had gone to some appearnce where she was signing her issue, she said children weren't allowed around that area of where she was because she was signing a Playboy...I think she was doing an appearance at a car show

I just saw on E! News tonight that Heff isnt having sex with the girls in the house. He claims he is too tired for it now and prefers to play a game of dominos instead

I wouldn't put much stock into what E says though. The E channel is a shill for celebrities. It's about as bad as Entertainment Tonight when it comes to celebrity sucking up.

I dunno. Hef is getting up there and may not be able to keep up with 3 or so young women. I could see him deciding to no longer keep up the active sex life he use to, regardless of what the book says.

I am just watching the old Cribs episode on MTV2 with monkey girl. Holly looks like she had her boobs done again, they were no where as big as they are now.

Sex, no sex, whatever: I think Hef will say whatever goes with the prevailing wind of opinion... if people are all, "wow, check out Mr. Playboy whoopin' it up!" then he or his spokeswhore will claim he's fucking eight women.

But if everyone is all, "Ewwwwwww. He's ancient! Oh, GROSS," then he'll suddenly claim he's just innocently playing card games.

[quote]Yup. Still, I agree with the sentiment that she's got the brightest future out of the three: she could easily do sports commentating or, if she could get her shit together, do a *real* workout video.

I used to think she didn't have much of a future, but your right. What guy wouldnt want to watch a hot girl commenting on football games, much more fun than whatching some ugly guy. She's just got to get over that nervous laugh.

Hey, she may not be the brightest bulb in the lamp, but I agree that Kendra probably does have the potential to do better than the other girls outside of the mansion.

She's just 21, so she has quite a few years to get her shit together, for one thing. She's also taking classes to be a licensed massage therapist, right? There's a good alternative gig right there---if she really does go into the sports massage profession, think about all the cool athletes she could befriend and massage!
Sports commentating or work-out videos are also other possibilities for her, and she could still do a fair amount of cheesy men's magazine and fitness modeling. I even get a gym teacher/school coach vibe out of her, or she could always either work at or even start her own gym in LA.

Bridgette may have two masters degree in broadcasting, but how much experience has she gotten in these areas so far? Could she really list her years at the Playboy mansion as an actual job persay?? She was smart to go for her education on Playboy's bill, but I just wonder how much she could really use these degrees in real life with as little experience as she's had so far. And judging from what we've seen of her "broadcasting" skills so far, the gal needs a lot of help in that area. Hell, even Holly does a better job as a commentator!

I guess we all know how hopeless Holly is without her beloved Puffin around...unless she somehow is swift enough to get a fair amount of change from Hef's will, I can't imagine what her future is after he croaks. Maybe she'd be kept around the mansion in some sort of party-planning position or help with the mansion/magazine affairs when the place is opened as a museum---she does appear to have a bright future as a polisher of some sort!
;-)

Sorry I've been silent for awhile, but I haven't felt motivated to post! :)

Anyways, I read Jill-Ann's book online. She seems like a sorry tag-along loser to me. And NOT attractive at all, ew. I liked Izabella's book much better, and at least she's pretty!

Oh my. The last few episodes have been a snooze. PLEASE E! think of something better!

Edited to spell correctly :)

" I agree, I feel sometimes that the show is boring, but I think its because it all looks planned and scripted. That just seems to put pressure on people and the show comes out fake and somewhat boring. Why can't we see this girls do something normal for once? I am sure there ARE alot of interesting things about the mansion and the girls but they never show them. I would like to see a REAL show where we see the girls doing their normal everyday things. Like for instance, they say they have to buy new clothes every week to go out and stuff, why don't they show the girls going shopping, or Hef's monopoly night, or them going to get their allowances on friday mornings, lol, jk, sure that might sound boring too, but at least it will be real!

E news got it from british cosmo magazine who interviewed some playmate that used to be one of his gf's

Considering all the polishing she currently does now!

This made me think....ewwww..... of the banister polishing Holly did in their first magazine spread the first season. Take this as a reminder to never touch any surface in the that mansion/petri dish they live in. When Hef dies, the CDC will probably demand that the place gets burned down.

Eww! Yikes! Jill Ann is REALLY not a pretty girl. Kinda scary looking. And I have only read about 30 pages of her book and she is so sad and pathetic. I was laughing about how she brought a swim cap to the party at the mansion, just in case she wanted to go swimming, but she didn't want to mess up her hair. And she is so proud of the fact that she owns "her own mobile home!"

And I read Izabella's book this weekend. She contradicts herself many times. And she hates Briget SO much. Rips on her and Holly big time. And I guess the book publisher didn't feel like proofreading...there are commas in the middle of sentences, and randomly placed periods where the sentence doesn't end. She should be embarassed.

Also, did one of them change some of the girlfriend's names? When you match up the timelines for the 2 books - it doesn't match. One of them is either changing some names or getting them confused...probably Jill Ann.

Actually, I hear JillAnn was the one who changed a bunch of the girl's names in the book, although I think she kept Holly and Bridgette's names the same since she released the book to coincide with the gradual popularity of GND.

And I totally agree with how pathetic JillAnn comes off, even if she does seem like an endearingly sweet and naive gal---from her poor boyfriend constantly getting left behind, to the way she kept excitedly begging to be let into various Playboy parties, to so painstakingly searching for the right outfits for each event, even to the way the other girls ignored her and dismissed her as a sad hanger-on, or when she got kicked out of one party her boyfriend actually PAID for them to get into(!!), or even when she describes her akward exchanges with various celebs at the parties((Britney Spears totally ignored her, hah!)), she just seems like such a sad example of white trash ambition.
How about that KLASSY Playboy room of hers with all the collected memoirabilia, or her chain of consignment shops, or being the self-proclaimed "hottest" Texas Hold'Em player this side of the Mason-Dixon line?
Poor woman didn't even get her tiny little Playboy online photospread ever shown! But then again, look at her---and mind you, that was after over a year of brutal workouts and physical-transformations/plastic surgery.

After reading her own swill, I wouldn't mind checking out Isabella's more factual insider account of her time in the mansion. And I love reading various slams of Holly and Bridgette, I'll just admit it...

Actually, I hear JillAnn was the one who changed a bunch of the girl's names in the book, although I think she kept Holly and Bridgette's names the same since she released the book to coincide with the gradual popularity of GND.

And I totally agree with how pathetic JillAnn comes off, even if she does seem like an endearingly sweet and naive gal---from her poor boyfriend constantly getting left behind, to the way she kept excitedly begging to be let into various Playboy parties, to so painstakingly searching for the right outfits for each event, even to the way the other girls ignored her and dismissed her as a sad hanger-on, or when she got kicked out of one party her boyfriend actually PAID for them to get into(!!), or even when she describes her akward exchanges with various celebs at the parties((Britney Spears totally ignored her, hah!)), she just seems like such a sad example of white trash ambition.
How about that KLASSY Playboy room of hers with all the collected memoirabilia, or her chain of consignment shops, or being the self-proclaimed "hottest" Texas Hold'Em player this side of the Mason-Dixon line?
Poor woman didn't even get her tiny little Playboy online photospread ever shown! But then again, look at her---and mind you, that was after over a year of brutal workouts and physical-transformations/plastic surgery.

After reading her own swill, I wouldn't mind checking out Isabella's more factual insider account of her time in the mansion. And I love reading various slams of Holly and Bridgette, I'll just admit it...

Well I've seen some pretty fancy mobile homes that I wouldn't mind owning myself. I recently looked at one that cost 100,000.00. The outside was all cedar siding, there were five bedrooms, four baths, a huge kitchen with island, a seperate dining room, a laundry room bigger than what I have in my house, a living room and additional den as well as fireplaces in the living room, den, and master bath. Stained glass windows in all the bathrooms. It was beautiful.

Of course hers may be something like you see on Cops now but there are some mobile homes out there nicer than a lot of brick and lumber houses.

JillAnn and Izabella both changed the names of the people in their books

I just finished Izabella's book. I was happy for the inside info, but God, could it have been more poor me? She spent what seemed like a lot of time complaining that she wanted a different free fine wine than what the kitchen was serving (I believe her words were, "I wanted cabernet, not vinegary shiraz!'). Towards the end, she complained that Hef wasn't quick enough to pay for some sort of aquarium after she moved out. And in the middle -- the very long middle -- she made enough "I'm a lawyer" references to make Star Jones blush. She kept saying she was the brain of the group, and that the Hefner family and Playboy staff clearly related to her because she was a "sophisticated intellectual." She complained about making only $1000 a week ($48,000 apparently tax free dollars per year with no bills to take care of except for the extra apartment she claimed to "need" and the law school loans that mean Hef didn't jump in and pay for). AND OH, THE NAME DROPPING. "Lead singer Scott Stapp," "NFL Superstar so-and-so," "Famous celebrity Justin Timberlake," blah blah blah.

[soapbox]I agree Hef is a narcissist and his rules are stupid, but you have to expect that to a certain degree. All of these women, with the possible exception of Bridget, don't seem to understand that are KEPT WOMEN. I know they don't want to think of themselves as whores, but if you agree to having a man pay for all your needs in exchange for sex and companionship, there are going to be conditions. [soapbox]

I know that's a big ol' lie -- those girls aren't nearly smart enough to play dominos!

I'll at least defend JillAnn (yikes!) in staying that later in the book she talks about owning her own 4000 sq ft home (not a mobile home). I think she bought the mobile home soon after high school which can be quite an accomplishment for someone so young.

Did her spread never make it to playboy.com?

Jill is kind of two-faced and by that I mean in some pictures she's pretty and in some she's just ew.

I still need to read Izabella's book. I wish someone would write a book that was more balanced and not just an 'I-used-to-be-a-girlfriend-and-now-I'm-ticked-and-hate-all-that-is-Hugh-Hefner' book. Once Hef kicks the bucket, that secretary needs to write something or at least one of the other long-time staff members.

So I finally read her book. I'm kind of ashamed.

Poor, dumb, deluded Jill Ann. I'm not sure if she's pretty or not, but I can tell you she is the whitest person ever. She's overexposed (heh) in all of the pictures in the book. Boy, Holly & Bridget look a lot better now though.

Jill Ann may be dumb, but I believe her. And also have no symphathy for her, what-so-ever. Or any of them really. Men will never do anything to woman that is worse or more destructive then what we do to ourselves - and this is the perfect example.

I can only imagine how much all the former girlfriends/hangers-on hate Holly & Bridget & Kendra (especially Kendra I would think - she paid the fewest dues I think). They have - relatively - received a much higher level of celebrity and importance than any of the others could have possibily had, even if they got playmate.

Midge, I was thinking the same thing. All of the previous girlfriends thought their top fame moment was finally getting to be in Playboy and maybe bit parts in a movie or two. I can only imagine their envy over this show.

Particularly after reading all of Jill Ann's book (not an easy task!), I would be so very pissed if I was one of those girls who had to ride nasty Hef for two minutes twice a week and suffer various vaginal infections the rest of the time and then the next year discover that not only was I kicked out of the mansion, but the remaining bitches had a freaking show!!

Can anyone recall a show prior to the current format of the Girls Next Door? It featured Hef when he was with his seven girlfriends. Maybe it was a one-hour special or something?? Anyway, I watched it years ago and clearly remember Hef being very annoyed at one of the girlfriends who had a child. The child was quite young - toddler age maybe -- and the child was crying because the mother was getting dressed to go out with Hef and the girls. As they were leaving, the child kept crying and she tried to go back and comfort him, but Hef went from a "good time party guy" to a very annoyed guy, snapping at her to "leave it" in reference to the kid, and that "we are leaving NOW, so just forget about it". He forbid her from going to the child!

I may not be remembering the exact words but Hef's tone concerning that situation stuck with me all these years. I guess because at the time I had a child about the same age as the girlfriend did, and it broke my heart to see the kid crying and the mom being forbidden by Hef to comfort him.

It also made me believe what Jill Ann said about Hef changing his personality rather quickly when she attempted to help him stand up. He snapped at her, changing his personality so fast, that she was affected by it the rest of the night. I bet he can be a real ass at times.

It's sad to hear about Hef's occassional bipolar moments, because he seems like a pretty nice and easygoing dude overall.
But I've gotta admit, I don't feel much sympathy for that ex-girlfriend bringing her child into that environment---of course Hef's going to be annoyed! What selfish moron totes along her innocent kid to a mansion where sex orgies, drugs, and prostitution is the norm so that she can work there as a concubine?
Honestly, that's no place for kids---it makes me uncomfortable enough seeing former playmates bring their kids over for easter egg hunts and parties, let alone hearing about children living there amongst all the silicone and insanity. It's a wonder that Hef's sons are as normal as they've turned out...of course, they're still young...

Bridget seems to understand BETTER than Holly and Dumbdra that she is a kept woman. She is forever talking about how GRATEFUL she is to be in the mansion and how grateful she is to Holly and Hef for allowing her to stay in "their" relationship.

Oh yeah, I can see Hef being a complete asshole when the cameras aren't rolling. He's got his game face on when he's greeting the press, but he rules the mansion with an iron fist and has for decades. Those girls live in FEAR of offending or angering him.



Ummmm, YEAH!!!! When you have chidren, you give UP your selfishness if you want to be an effective parent. The Playboy environment is not the appropriate place for a child, I'm suprised no one called Child Services on that woman. Reason #485,984,745,839 why, when I rule the world, I will be requiring people to get licenses before becoming parents.

But I have to think, if Hef didn't want a crying toddler around, he shouldn't have allowed a girlfriend with a toddler to move in. What is she going to do? Hide the kid in a closet until Hef's done with her? If she understood that was part of the deal, then so be it. I have to keep reminding myself that these people are not in "normal" relationships where the feelings and needs of those you supposedly love are considered. In a situation where I lived at my boyfriend's house with my child, I would expect the boyfriend to be considerate of the needs of the child he is allowing to live there.

I also agree with some of the previous posters about Kendra. If I was Bridgette or Holly, I would be really jealous of Kendra. She doesn't seem intimidated in any way by Hef. She says whatever she wants and Hef never seems to get mad at her. It looks to me like he likes her the best, and that has to just kill Holly. Kendra pretty much does what she wants outside of staying out late without permission. She doesn't give a shit about Hef's hobbies or pretending that she cares about those things, whereas Holly must stay up at night thinking of ways to get closer to Hef.

After reading Jill Ann's book, these girls are so pathetic (they always were, but at least in a fun kind of way). Now they are just sadly pathetic. I wonder if any of them dread the sex with Hef like some of the girls in the book. And I don't believe that he's not having sex anymore. There are so many pills and devices around now, a dead man could get an erection.

Jill-Ann's book was interesting, although the constant typos and misspellings gave me a headache after awhile. There were some sentences that I had to read several times to understand. She solicited feedback at the end of the book and I almost emailed her to say "you really need to have a professional proofreader go through this, because the constant errors diminish your credibility." It makes her seem a lot less together, and the first third of that book was clearly intended to impress the readership with how professional (and by implication, not-slutty) she was.

But the content--man. EW. Jill-Ann seems pretty believable, if for nothing else than because of the REAMS of photographic evidence. (Although I agree, she doesn't look good in most of those pictures...*so* washed out, with that rictus grin and those ridiculously fake-looking breasts.) And I don't think she comes off that badly--yeah, she kind of panted after Hef to get invited to the parties but I have to say, I would find it difficult to turn down an invite myself. At least she didn't sleep with the guy. (Again--EW. I just...can't believe they don't use protection.)

I think she comes off the worst in all those pictures where she "flashed" the camera--those enormous mounds standing straight out at the camera are kind of yucky.

I am guessing that's why so many of them arrive for these concocted events on the show, like the Easter eg hunts and the pumpkin carving day.

Speaking of which, I caught the begining of the newest Halloween episode and got a kick out of the bimbo talking about her project for this on-line class she was taking on Ghostbusting (Sorry, could not resist!) and deciding to "document" the haunted Playboy mansion. Oh yeah, that degree's going to get you far...

It did get her a spot on VH1's Celebrity Paranormal Project. She was credited as a "Playboy model" not as a "Hefner girlfriend"--which is the only real reason anyone has ever heard of her. However, she did come off surprisingly well.

I'm not sure if I believe the statement or not, but homeboy's 80. Even if chemistry can make the body willing, he could just prefer a nice bowl of soup and an old movie to some skank bouncing around on top of him.

Eeeek! No kidding? I'm debating on whether I would be willing to watch that or not (no doubt she'd try to brag up that Ghostbuster degree she got from online, ha ha).

She was discussing the Ghostbuster equipment they had at the site. Then she mentioned that she had taken a course online, but that was all. She never brought it up again. I'll say it again--color me shocked--but she came across as likeable. She (of course) took it very seriously but didn't freak out. She didn't even cry or talk baby talk.

E! stole that from a former NY Post Page Six item I posted months ago.

I searched but iddn't see notice of this in this thread. I was watching a VH1

I wonder if the GND will be able to hold out until he dies, though. One of my Grampos is 86 -- and had a much harder life than Hef -- but it still as healthy as a horse. What if Hef lives to 100? Kendra isn't going to stick around until she is 40-something.

Hef wouldn't keep her around until she was 40-something.