Someone please tell me there is a good, solid reason a person would want to get their cat's teeth cleaned in the first place? Does it help them in any way. Don't they make food that cleans their teeth or is that just for dogs? That seemed a lot for Gizzie to go through indeed.

I was just waiting for Gizzy to spring forward and bite Bridgette's face. He seemed so pissed.
As far as the teeth cleaning goes, I think Bridgette gets so bored that she takes Gizzy for cat massages and paints her claws with OPI I'm not Really a Waitress. Wednesday is too young for all that so she just gets costumes and Doggy perfume. And Bridgette acts out little plays with them. Then gets mad when they don't do their parts right. And spanks them.

And yet nothing improved.

He is such a control freak jerk. Did any of you see them on Dr. Phil's pathetic special? Jonathan is such a fame whore. Holly should have served hot spicy soup for everyone to puke at the shower, ala the Amazing Race, where Jonathan and Victimoria had one of their biggest blowouts. Argh! I just HATE that guy!

I liked how Bridgette said that Gizzie is just vocal. Has she not noticed the hateful glares eminating from that cat?

I can't speak for cats, but we adopted a 10-year-old chihuahua from a pet rescue and her teeth were so bad that the plaque and bacteria traveled to her heart. Sadly, we didn't adopt her in time to beat the infection.

As far as teeth cleaning? Yes, cats need their teeth cleaned as well as dogs. It's better for their long-term health as greatly decayed teeth shorten their lives and cause health problems.

I thought that kitty papoose was a great idea! I've never seen one before and seems like a terrific alternative to sedation, which is the usual course of action for kitty teeth cleaning. Although I have to say that I was rolling on the floor laughing at the way Gizzy looked in it! Heeee!

My vet suggested it because as an animal gets older their teeth will rot and abcess (sp) and start to cause them pain. Persians are known for bad teeth. I give my cat tartar control kitty treats and 'won't do the professional cleaning considering his age, fifteen, and the risks.
Oh, and his teeth look fine. He is a very spoiled baby. :)
edit: I hadn't seen the above replies when I quickly typed this.

ITA, I think Bridget would be the one GND I would be the most compatible with. Especially the fact that she loves horror movies and seems to like to be goofy and have fun.

We bought one hoping we could brush our cat's teeth and we can't get her to sit in it. I wish my cats would behave as well as Gizzy.

I was so torn last night, I wanted to watch GND, but I hate Jonathan. My Jonathan hate is hardcore, but my GND love allowed me to sit through his his few famewhory moments. How far along was Victoria? I assume E! asked them to have a baby shower so that they could pad the season. It all ties back to the fact that these girls don't do anything.

Holy crap, It was Victoria they had the shower for? (I haven't had a chance to watch the episode yet). I can just imagine what kind of father Jonathon is going to make....poor kid. I can't believe these two were allowed to reproduce, there should be a law against Jonathon ever being able to produce a child. Blech.

I am off to watch the epi now.

Did anyone else notice, or find it a little.....sicko-ish, when Victoria told Hef there was a new bunny in training coming into the world?
I dont remember the exact sentence word for word, but it was along those lines.
That, IMO, is just wrong. Its like saying "I dont want my kids to go to college and be a doctor or a lawyer, I want them to take their clothes off for Playboy. Let's start saving for those breast implants now." Gross.....

Yeah, that "bunny in training" comment made me cringe too.

I hate that I like this show, although since reading Jill Ann's "book" I am slightly sickened by them all. Yeah, I figured *something* was going on in Hef's bedroom, I just didn't think it was that crap. Blech!! But by far my favorite part of the show is Gizzy. She reminds me so much of my cat. They are soulmates! I couldn't believe Bridget was holding her while standing outside, waiting for the teeth cleaner though...I was waiting for Gizzy to bite her face and escape while she had a chance.

Yeah. I didn't really like it. It starts off with her childhood at the Mansion - the one famous folks story that I remembered was her walking in on John Belushi having sex with one of the Playmates in the grotto. Oh, and Dorothy Stratton playing with her.

A lot of it was about her father, who was the one who took her there [which her mother hated]. The father, who was Hef's doctor, was just freakin' creepy and a misogynist. She left her mom's home, moved in with him, and spent her days and nights either at the Mansion or partying at clubs. She had an affair with one of the Playmates [who later slept with the doctor], got into drugs and alcohol, and yada yada yada, she's still fucked up. She still goes to the Mansion and does drugs.

It's like a teenager wrote it. She still seems stuck at that age.

I was going to buy it, but I didnt want to waste good money on a crappy book.
She said that she had a Britney Spears story in there, so I thought that was interesting, but again, Im not going to spend money on a crappy book. I hear alot of reviews saying that she wrote it like she was a child/teenager. She did an interview....I guess it was a year ago, maybe, and in it she said that shes still in therapy, but that she still attends the mansion parties.
WHY? If she had sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much trauma from being there with her father and all the things she saw/went through, why would she want to go back to the place that caused her so much pain? Shes obviously in pain considering shes still in therapy.

Anyways, Kendra.....oh Kendra. I dont even know how I feel about her. One one hand I though how rude and tacky and non-interested she was in the baby shower by giving her gift in a Christmas bag But then on the other hand she had a good point...no one keeps the bags anyways, they just get thrown out. I know some who keep them, but Im not one the them. She just seems so uninterested as of late. Its sad. I really think one day shes going to wake up and realize how much she didnt need to live there.

Kendra not only seems uninterested, but also brainless. How rude to bring a baby shower gift in christmas wrapping! It basically says you don't care about the mother or the baby. It just seemed so darn disrespectful. I think she's a complete idiot. In 8 years when her implants drop, Hef's dead, and she's all wrinkly, she will wonder why she didn't spend her time in school instead of Hef's old nasty lap! No one is going to want some chick an old fart used to shack up with!

If Kendra's excuse of, oh, well, no one keeps the bag anyway, was truly believable and she REALLY felt that way, then she would have just put it in a paper grocery bag or the plastic handle bag it came in, right? Duh, Kendra, we get it. You're the Queen of Excuseland! You have an excuse for EVERYTHING! I swear I'm going to start making a list:

1. I'm embarrassed because I didn't have an appropriate gift bag and used a Christmas bag. What do I do? Make an excuse, no one ever keeps the bag anyway, so who cares? (she says that a lot, too)

2. I'm embarrassed because the last gift I bought for the slumber party, I also had difficulty with the concept of wrapping. I crammed too much into a too small bag (did she buy that bag? I wonder.) What do I do? Make an excuse, of course, who cares about the wrapping, it's the thought that counts (true to an extent). If that were true, then why did you attempt to wrap it in the first place? Just give it unwrapped, right? Like Hef's 80th birthday gift, unwrapped and unframed, just rolled up in a cylinder, like a fourth grade art project.

Her constant excuses are only a coverup for her embarrassment over her choices. I wish she'd grow up a little. She is extremely annoying.

Jonathon and Victoria should be wonderful parents. I saw them on Fear FActor screaming obscenities at each other. Finally Victoria punched Jonny Fairplay from Survivor and Joe Rogan kicked them off the show because you can't just punch people. Poor kid, it's going to grow up with a nervous tic from all the screaming.

I hate to admit how much I am like Bridgette when it comes to gifts. I think I am a really good shopper and I really work hard to find something that fits a person to a tee and is unique. And I love wrapping gifts. Sometimes if I find something so perfect for a person but I don't have an occasion to give it to them, I will make something up -- like a half birthday -- just so I can give it to them. And Bridgette's wagon o'gifts? Guess what my nieces each got for Easter last year - filled with gifts. I don't spend a ton and I do look for sales....but I just enjoy it so much.

And Kendra is just selfish -- not because she doesn't go as crazy as Bridgette but she really only thinks of herself. She has half-assed wrapped presents before and remember what she did for the time they went to Las Vegas to celebrate a birthday for "one of their best friends" and she "lost" the gift card for Victoria's Secret. She only gets gifts because she has to - for scenes for the tv show.

ETA: Seriously? Wow! tell me more -- was this some that was shown on TV and I missed it?

Well, in Kendra's defense (did I just say that?) Audra stole her birthday gift for Carmella (the Vegas epi) and was swiftly kicked outta the mansion. Hence, the inclusion of that humiliating bit of footage of Audra squeezing into the bunny costume that was clearly four sizes too small. A bit of payback for her duplicity.

I doubt Victoria is even her "friend" in the first place. I can understand why Kendra doesn't have the motivation to celebrate bullshit dog birthdays and parties for people she barely knows.

There were rumblings about what happened on the E! boards, but then in the Season One DVD they (the girls) kind of tell the story sort of halfway. Apparently Audra did steal the gift Kendra bought from Victoria's Secret and was caught, no one knows how officially, but likely with all the camera crews and staff around, someone found out. On the DVD the commentaries they said that the producers or editors had thought about doing a Cops kind of storyline including the "Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do" song, except using "Bad girls, bad girls,........"

I got this on a google search:
"In the episode where the girls go to Las Vegas, they explain what happened to Kendra's birthday present to Carmella DeCesare. In the original episode they made it seem as if Kendra lost Carmella's present before leaving for the airport. However, if you watch the commentary version, it's VERY clear that a certain Playmate at the mansion STOLE Carmella's present and deliberately placed it in her room -- Kendra is heard saying, "check room
number 4." Also, Kendra is very pissed about the situation and the producers from E! wanted to do a "Cops" type of show to implicate the thief (Audra Lynn).

Kendra makes a comment to the extent of: "Hef allowed this girl to stay at the mansion when she was going through a very difficult time and then she does something like this... Fuck that bitch!" It's never stated but it's
very obvious that she's talking about Audra Lynn"

Kendra also makes very nasty comments whenever Audra is shown in this episode (on the DVD commentaries) and in the bunny costume one as well.

Oooooh! That's some juicy scoop I didn't know! Thanks guys!

Re: Victoria and her psycho husband, you'd think Playboy would want to distance itself from something like that after Dorothy Stratten.

I agree. She never seems into the activities and she never seems into the people visiting. Like, they always show her reluctance to participate or come out of her room in a timelly manner when they have guests.

I wonder if Kendra will find a new sugardaddy at Fight Night this year, and line him up for when her contract with Hef expires? That event was the only thing she ever seemed truly excited about.

I'd really want to like Ken-duh---even her sheer stupidity is somewhat endearing...but its her laziness that makes her so damned annoying. I know, celebrating birthday parties for dogs and showers for "friends" she barely knows might seem lame and pointless, but HELLO, it's part of the job-description as Hef's girlfriend!!! If she doesn't like it, she needs to just leave already---I'm sure Holly would gladly help her pack even!

Her constant excuses for her laziness are just the icing on the cake...what else does the girl do daily but hang out with the kitchen staff, play with her dogs, work out, get the regular "beauty" treatments and masturbate? Surely she could muster up enough energy to at least pretend to be as giddy to buy presents and plan stupid parties like Holly and Bridgette.

I wonder if she'd even still be there if it wasn't for the success of the TV show...although it seems like Hef enjoys having her youthfully playful spunk around to keep things light...

Maybe it's a moot point but am I the only one who would be really skeeved out if Kendra did leave and Hef aquired another girlfriend who was 19? *shudder*

Kendra, even if she wanted to, can't leave. Playboy is enjoying renewed popularity because of these three women after a 15-year decline. They aren't going to let her leave easily. Playboy needs her more now than ever before.

A "Cops-Style" episode to bust Audra Lynn would've been SOOO rad!!

What kinds of contracts do these girls sign? What exactly do they agree to do? I doubt that any court would upheld a contract for the performance of sexual acts, but her public appearances at Hef's side might be another story.

I dont think they sign contracts. According to Izzy, they are all there on their own accord. Im sure they have contracts with E! though.
I guess they agree that Hef will take care of them by buying/giving them gifts/money/cars/trips, and they will do.....well you know, with Hef. According to Izzy, its an unspoken agreement.

ETA: I cant spell with crap today.

My take is that what we see on the show is a cleaned-up simulation of what the mansion life is like. My evidence? Take the slumber party for example. The thing looked so staged, I thought I was watching Laguna Beach for a minute. All the playmates had a "this is so lame" look on their faces and it all seemed so contrived. I think life in the mansion is probably rather boring on a day-to-day basis (the parties liven things up) and they have staged things to put together a show b/c in reality we'd all be disappointed if the Playboy Mansion wasn't the "happnin'" pad we always thought it was. Think about it: what it really all boils down to is that it is the overpriced residence of an 80 year-old fart. How exciting can that be really?

When he had his "party posse" group of 7 girlfreinds, there was an 18/19 year old in the mix at the time

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! You owe me a new keyboard!

SEE, it was supposed to say "I cant spell WORTH crap today", not with crap. I cant take it lmfao!

I can't believe I read almost the entire book by Jill Ann. The person who said she needs an editor was right. Sheesh. I had to skim past a lot of junk. The book would've been much more effective minus about 150 pages (and Jill Ann would look much better less a few hundred ccs of saline in her implants).

That aside, I just can't get a clear picture of Jill Ann beyond the obsessed fan done wrong. The woman made her whole life about Playboy. Why did her boyfriend put up with all that, and did the guy even have a job or did he just follow Jill Ann around?

TGND are nothing compared to this chick. Jill Ann would've jumped at the chance to be on the show if she hadn't already been thrown out of the mansion.

Sorry if this is off-topic. Just needed to vent. I'm just stunned.

In regards to Jill Ann's book there was something that really bothered me
1) I'm not trying to be mean here but who told her that foundation looked good? Her face is so washed out I really am not sure what she looks like. For someone who made it her life's goal to look good wouldn't she have noticed that her make up didn't? She put all this time and effort and money into becoming a barbie doll....but the first thing that's noticed is how bad her make up is.
edit: I had a couple other points I'll have to do later. I think it's a fasinating book. Maybe a grad student could analize it for their masters.

What gets me about Holly is that Kimberly Conrad had the exact same dream: to marry Hef and have kids... 20 years ago. Except Kimberly's "dream life" came true.

If Holly wants Hef's bebbehs so bad, why doesn't she Rohypnol his ass and electrically stimulate his prostate like in Thomas Harris' Hannibal? She's all about being smart 'n creative, so I'm sure she could rig something up from a Hitachi (a bunny model, of course). Er, unless Hef's had a vasectomy.

I really need to read this book all y'all are talking about... but I think I'm getting my USRDA of brain damage from the show alone.

Yes, by all means, read the book! It gives such amazing insights to this bizarre bunny universe! And you can weep for the loss of your beloved braincells, just like the rest of us!

Here's a thought: what if Holly is being paid some serious cash in order to say that she wants to have babies with Hef? What if this is part of the plan to make Hef seem "appealing"?

Hef and appealing in the same sentence? Is that possible?

Kimberley Conrad's book is the book I would want to read.
If she ever writes one, I would be curious to know exactly what happened that caused the demise of their marriage. On the E! special, she alluded to the fact that it was something she did, not Hef, that ended it.
I think that they were truly in love, and I wonder what the real reason is that they never divorced.

Jill Ann is very pale, I am thinking she wears sunscreen under her makeup,and I am told that will reflect that way from camera flashes. It could explain the ultra pale face. Holly uses Alexis Vogel's line,and she does not recommend any creams or sunscreen under her product, AlexisStyle. Could be why Holly looks normal in pictures,while seeming fairly pale also.

Whomever wanted to read Jill Ann's book there is a link at about page 120 of this board.

Personally, I lost a few IQ points while reading Jill Ann's book. One of the famous Jill Ann quotes that I will never forget and that constantly ring out in my head is when shes going to her one of many photo shoots and she has a professional stylist. She says "This is LA Hollywood!"
Now, I could have sworn that Los Angeles and Hollywood were two different cities in California, but apparently Jill Ann thinks differently.....

I just read over on Pink is the New Blog Jill Ann got hit in the face by Kevin Federline's bodyguard with her camera. It appears she's a photographer now.




As dumb as she comes across, maybe she meant "La Hollywood". Who knows.

Jill Ann was probably trying to get good pictures of K-Fed for her magazine.

If that's the case, someone needs to send her some foundation+SPF that won't pale you out in the camera flash! She looked awful.

IMHO Jillann is a tranny that is why she needs all that pancake makeup.

I just read Jill Ann's e-book (thnx, I think, mellowyellow) and while much of what she says maybe true, she comes off as a total opportunist ~ and her longtime boyfriend I just don't get at all. Anyway re the make-up etc she really didn't know how to pose either ~ gaucky comes to mind, plus she's kinda big and thick looking. Interesting read, even if poorly written.

Back on topic ~ this insider info really makes me look at TGND in a different light. I was kinda buying into Holly being the only real girlfriend and the other two being arm candy. It made the show sorta fun to watch. Now I'm just feeling a bit sick about them all and there isn't enough warm wash clothes and baby (Hef) oil to get rid of the creepy images from the book.

I have to say that I agree. When they first aired, I thought that Holly was truly into him. Now she really may be in her own sick way, but after reading Izzys book and then Jill Anns, Im thinking she saw "opportunity" and jumped on it (no pun intended). Its creepy.

Bridget is selling a signature perfume now? I can't imagine what it smells like...cat litter box, foot odor and desperation mixed with a little Love's Baby Soft?