Since you brought it up, I went and looked.

Actually, she's a good indication of how the magazine has detiorated. Tawni at least was a brunette, not a bleach blond, had hair, and you can even see freckles and whatnot. In other words, she looks heavily made up, but still real. 10 years on, and the girls look like they are all made of rubber.

Earlier there was some discussion of how 'hard' looking the women are. There was an article about a recent playmate, Carmela DeCesare, being in court for assault. (She attacked another women in a strip joint...nice!). They showed pictures of her in court. Geez Us. She looked like a 35 year old whose been slinging pitchers in a cheap smoky bar since she was 18. Put another way, when my friends and I occasionally go to bars, we see girls we describe as 'shopworn'. It's not that they are totally unattractive. It's more like they look as though they have spent a decade or so cruising bars, getting hammered, and drifting in and out of bad relationships. A lot to read into a face, I know, but I swear you can sort of tell.

(Hopefully, no one is saying that about me and my friends!)

An air of creepiness has always surrounded Playboy. In another PMOY interview, the interviewer asked the girl what her parents thought about it. She said that her father was proud, and after the issue was published they looked through the issue together. Her father?!!! Yech!

Hah nubbs, me and my girls call 'em "floor samples, scratch and dent models". It implies their "marked-down" value. Wee!

Probably. Especially now. Keep in mind that the point of this travesty of a show is to "promote" the Playboy empire and make it look "Hot, sexy yet glamorous" again. Not to mention that it seems like Hef likes to keep his "pet bunnies" on a firm leash, so they probably don't talk to people unless he's with them. In fact, I bet the only reason he "allowed" them to go to Vegas at all was because of the show. After all, it's not like Hef wanted to go or anything.

Also did anyone find it amusing that these girls live in mansion, yet they had to scronge around a hotel gift shop for presents? Geez, Dennis the Menace gets a bigger allowance then these chicks. I'm just saying if I had "connections" with rich people, they better give me something more than a coupon to Barns and Nobles or a Hard Rock Cafe T-shirt or something. Sheesh!

Also, who'da thought that The Palms would be an even bigger media whore then the gazillion reality TV losers who stay there? Geez, do "normal" people even stay at the hotel anymore?

George Maloof is a publicity whore at the highest level. I'm sure he wouldn't turn away any chance to promote his "celeb-infested" property.

I understand this and I see your point about being around Playboy employees all the time but, for example, I thought it was wierd that Kendra didn't have any friends from home or friends from outside the Playboy empire visit for her birthday party. I realize that after how ever many years Holly has been holed up with PajamaMan she may have lost touch with friends, but Kendra has barely been out of High school for 2 years (if she graduated) and I would think Bridget would make friends in school. When I was in graduate school I had a hell of a lot of group projects and met a ton of people that way. I am still very good friends some of them.

I wonder if Hef forbids them to talk to people he deems ugly?????? Just a theory....

She kicked an ex-girlfriend of Jeff Garcia's in the head at a club called Tramp (I don't think it's a strip club, they just have poles). She and Jeff were both the butt of a lot of jokes around here (Cleveland, where she's from and he used to QB) for months. She's also one of those "I'll show all the guys who called me ugly in high school" types if gossip is to be believed.

And Kendra goes to her massage therapy school five days a week - isn't she friends with ANY of those people? Maybe Hef didn't want hoi polloi at the mansion. I did think it was sad that Kendra told him it was her best birthday ever - so hanging out at the pool with your immediate family (I'm not complaining about them though), two girls you work with, a Playmate, and your old grandpa pimp is what constitutes the best birthday evah?

They do seem pretty isolated at the mansion, which is probably why Kendra was so excited to take a total stranger to the batting cages.

The creepiest (or, you know, most pathetic) comment was Holly saying, upon returning home, "I called Hef and told me we were gonna be late. But it was ok, because he had stuff to do. I got lucky this time."

What does *that* mean? What exactly is the punishment for breaking curfew? Hell, I had a barely-enforced, flexible curfew as a teenager, I can't imagine having one as a grown woman.

Thanks for the links, guys. VERY funny....where can I join the "Blonde Mafia"?....love that name for some reason.

Regarding Kendra's birthday party guest list....I laughed so hard at her little brother watching the girls in the pool. I'll bet he had quite a few friends (acquaintances, complete strangers!) who would have liked to come to the party with him. Can you imagine the sensory overload to a teenage boy surrounded by all those boobs!?!

Not to mention ScarletGirl that they were late because the plane was delayed! How could that ever be considered their fault. Yet another creepy peek inside.

Is that birthday party Carmela?


I was gonna comment on these two things, but I edited them out of my original post. I call shenanigans on their educations. I think Bridget is doing an online degree just like Holly and therefore doesn't meet people at any school. I also think Kendra's massage therapy school is an angle for the show as in a "look these girls have goals and aspirations outside the mansion". It isn't that I don't think they're capable, it's that I wonder if there's a limit to the number of hours they're allowed to be off the property each day. If I were taking a potential new Playmate out and about I would probably take her out to lunch, not call the Mansion from Playboy Enterprises' car and order PB&J and fries for her.
This quote from the E! website basically explains why their only "friends" are Playmates. (a reason others have mentioned)

They're not women, they're objects.

There's something about Hef and his OCD that makes me eager for the slew of tell-all books that will hit the shelves by 2015.

That was the Playboy suite the girls were staying in. There was a big painting of young Hef on the wall in the background.


Not so far from the truth. According the Howard Stern show, if a woman wants to attend a party at the mansion she must send photos ahead of time so they can determine if she's attractive enough to be there. I think a guy is not allowed to bring another guy as his guest. I guess the rules go out the window for big celebrities though.
Plus he doesn't want them talking out of school. An outside friend is liable to pull a Linda Tripp and/or run to the tabloids and blow the lid on this whole operation.

A few years back, in the era of 7 girlfriends, The Enquirer or one of the other tabs had this very "Poor Hef" story where the ungrateful wenches were known to sneak their phone numbers to other (age appropriate guys) while out clubbing with Hef.

I'm thinking their cars all have GPS so they can be tracked at all times. This reminds me, how cute was it when Holly and Bridget discoverd that the mountain thingy on the console meant Holly had four wheel drive. The Hell?

And wouldn't it be so sweet if the girls were fitted with rhinestone encrusted bunny shaped ankle monitors...just in case they wandered from their cars and were in danger of not making curfew. GAH!

Actually Kendra's best friend friend did come to the party. She was a brunette girl, I remember because they made a point of saying she was a friend.

Hmmm...watching Hef and his concubines is considered sexy and glamorous.

If a guy in Utah does the same thing it's polygamy...

What is gross to me is that Kendra's family is okay with her living with an old goat who is probably older than her grandma. Ewwww....

The difference between Hef and the polygamist sects is that there is actually sex involved with polygamy. There's no sex happening in the Playboy Mansion. He's queer and old and totally not interested in the girls.

I thought them hugging and sharing cheek kisses with Hef was one of the nastiest things on this show. It makes no sense that they would be happy that their 20 year old daughter/granddaughter is basically living in a harem. So it may be that Kendra has told them that she is really not slepping with Hef. Otherwise there is no way that they should be so comfortable with this little arrangement!!

I think you're probably right. There was one scene in one episode where Bridget was in front of her degrees and, while one of them was from USC, the other one was from a school I never heard of. I think California has a lot of non-accredited on-line schools. And that scene with Kendra in "class" seemed really bizarre to me.

I listen to Howard Stern occasionally, and he's had porn stars on his shows with parents who manage their careers, accompany them on personal nude appearances, etc. Some parents are comfortable with things the rest of us find shocking, especially if there's good money involved. But even so, of course, I still doubt Kendra is anything more than an employee.

I wonder how Kendra would look as a brunette? With the platinum blonde mop, I can't help but think "White trash!" whenever I see her.

I don't understand why Holly is clinging to Hef for dear life. She should dump him and become a nice Stepford wife to a rich doctor, or a plastic surgeon(free face-lifts, tummy tucks, replacement breast implants, etc.).

Bridgette needs to let go of her obsession with being a centerfold and move on to something else. I don't think appearing bucky-tail naked in a magazine is going to fill whatever void she seems to have in her life.

BrainCandy, that's the route that Brooke Burke and Heidi Mark went (plastic surgeon husbands). ;)

I just read Under the Banner of Heaven by Jon Krakauer, and I learned some interesting stuff about Mormons and polygamy. It's technically not considered polygamy by law unless you marry more than one person. What a lot of the fundamentalists do to avoid breaking the law and simultaneously work the system is the husband is only legally married to his first wife. He "spiritually" marries the other women, but not legally. This makes them single mothers so they all qualify for welfare to support their litter of kids. Since Hef isn't married to any of the three girls, there is no polygamy going on. It isn't illegal to have several girlfriends. Lots of people do it, right or wrong.



One was from University of the Pacific and another one was from a CSU campus (I couldn't see which one).

The University of the Pacific is accredited with its main campus being in the San Francisco area, it is just not part of either the UC or the State system, and was named one of the 50 best values in U.S. News.

I certainly wasn't trying to imply that any given California school is unaccredited, but there are definitely some.

So if Bridget has a Bachelor and Master's degree, it's baffling why she's wasting those efforts and sitting around the mansion getting yet another degree, whether from a real or not-so-real school. I guess she's just one of those people who's more into school than working. Or maybe seeing Playboy magazines from the age of five messed her up real good.

Like others have said, I could see Holly as a trophy wife of a wealthy guy and I can't quite imagine Kendra having a real job that doesn't involved shaking it, but Bridget seems like she could be doing something better with her life if she wanted to.

Bridget had better hurry and wake up -- in those linked pics a page back she is really starting to show her age. For Playboy standards, the bloom is off her rose.

I see Kendra moving into porn -- I think it's the hair that makes me think that.

The polygamists in UT are not Mormons - they're doing their own thing practicing their own "religion." If these men don't legally marry their additional wives, then basically they're shacking up with their "girlfriends" which is what Hef is doing, but if it's in LA and in a poorly-decorated ramshackle mansion with inflatable bleach-blonde honeys then it's considered sexy and macho, LOL.

I was thinking the same thing, but she better lay off the surgery...Heidi got mroe on her face and she still doesn't look any better! Holly is an attractive woman....

I agree. I also thought it was telling that Kendra's mother was going on about how worried she was when Kendra first moved to the mansion, and that she envisioned wild parties, and that no mother wants her child living like that...notice there was no mention of Kendra being the girlfriend of an 80-something year old geezer. Its been posted many times here, but I just need to chime in that they are sooo not Hef's girlfriends and are actually employees.



SO TRUE. There were two eps in a row (the one where they took the limo to the jazz festival, and the Vegas ep) where she did this disgusting "booty dance" (for lack of better words). Methinks Kendra definetly spent some time on the pole before Hef came and "saved her life".

From the E! online article that was posted on the last page:



Private jet???? Ha!! LIES!!!!

[/B]Pity Free[B] - I can confirm a boob job for you....without pre pics! Ha, ha!!

I read something on the E! boards that alluded that Holly had already had a bunch of plastic surgery -- chin implant, eye job, collagen, nose job. Anyone know for sure?? Have links to old before pics???

Here's an interesting link I found: stuff about the girlfriends
Not sure how true it is, but it lists previous girlfriends and alludes to a $1000/week allowance.

If Holly has already had a nose job, she got it pre-Hef. I remember her saying that she doesn't feel that she is "a classic beauty, Hef's type...which makes me wish my nose was a bit smaller and turned up cute" (or something to that effect). She claims this is what has been keeping her from posing. Now that Hef has "not promised, but we'll see.." about the GF posing, it will be interesting to see what happens.

Wow, that's an interesting article. If it's true, I guess it answers a lot of the questions we had. So the girls aren't one big happy family. Putting Nair in someone's shampoo? That's just wrong.

Wow, that was an interesting article. Now I'm wondering which of the three girls there now would be most likely to be the Nairer (or the Nairee!).



The polygamists in Under the Banner of Heaven are Mormon fundamentalists. Many of them started out Mormon and then were excommunicated (or apostated or whatever the official word is that the Mormons use) because they want to practice the earlier, stricter teachings of the Mormon church rather than what they feel are the watered down modern teachings that leave out former practices like polygamy. I think Hef WISHES that shacking up with the peroxide triplets makes the situation sexy, but to me it looks creepy and desperate on all sides. The other thing about this show that reminds me of Under the Banner of Heaven is the brainwashed cult-like mentality that another poster mentioned. Must be something in the water!

I have been thinking (way too hard) about this and .....I wanna know who molested Baby-voiced Bridgette as a child!!!! That's got to be at the root of her issues!!!

(Or it's some twisted "Mr. Garrison from South Park" thing where she can't get molested -- even in the Playboy mansion-- and she is slowly going insane from the perceived rejection.)

I'm sure Holly has tried but failed to pick the locks to Kendra and Bridgette's bedroom suite doors more than once....

On one of those little Q&A things that E! runs during the episodes...it said Holly was 25 years old. Does anyone buy that? I'm 27 and I thought she had at least 5 years on me.

I never really had an opinion one way or another regarding Hef and his interchangeable girlies. I still don't find the situation objectionable or particularly exploitive, as adults (even dim-witted pre-strippers) can make up their own minds whether or not being a paid member of a harem is their sort of gig. Still, after watching a couple of episodes I am so grossed out.

What bothers me is how icky the Playboy Mansion is!

The place looks so cluttered and messy. The furniture looks sort of trashy when when it doesn't look trashy, it looks like the sort of stuff one finds in an elderly woman's tract home. Kendra's bedroom was a nightmare--the mess was unbelievable.

I guess I expected something different. Not necessarily classier, but different and definitely cleaner. The whole Playboy mystique is a bit tarnished for me now...

Am I the only one who thinks Bridget is a real blond and just the other two are bleached? Her hair just doesnt look overly-chemisized to me.

Did anyone else remember the MTV cribs that Hef did back when he had 7 girlfriends? What was the name of the girl who loved everything pink and had a baby kapuchi monkey? I swear Bridget has her old room, and kept the same paint. Way to save a dime.

FYI...this is from LDS.org, the Mormon Church's official web site:

Recent news reports regarding various issues related to the practice of polygamy, especially focusing on groups in Southern Utah, Arizona and Texas, have used terms such as "fundamentalist Mormons," "Mormon sect" and "polygamous Mormons" to refer to those who practice polygamy.

There is no such thing as a "polygamous" Mormon. Mormon is a common name for a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Church discontinued polygamy more than a century ago. No members of the Church today can enter into polygamy without being excommunicated. Polygamist groups in Utah, Arizona or Texas have nothing whatsoever to do with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

When referring to people or organizations that practice polygamy, terms such as those listed above are incorrect. The Associated Press Stylebook notes: "The term Mormon is not properly applied to the other ... churches that resulted from the split after [Joseph] Smith's death."

As I noted in my previous post, fundamendalist Mormons are usually Mormons who have been excommunicated due to their desire to practice the older teachings of the Mormon church (such as polygamy). Although these people are not recognized as official members of the Chruch of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, their beliefs are based on the Book of Mormon and the Doctines & Covenants and they consider themselves to be Mormon. I understand why the Mormon church distances themselves from the fringe fundamentalist groups, but to me saying that the fundamentalists aren't Mormon simply because the Mormon church doesn't recognize them as active members is like saying that anyone who believes that Jesus is the son of God but isn't listed in the official roll call at a specific church isn't Christian. In addition, despite the Manifesto of 1890, there were still members of the church who continued their polygamous relationships into the 20th century. Interestingly, Bruce McConkie, who was a member of the First Council of the Seventy stated in the 1966 edition of the Mormon Doctrine, "Obviously the holy practice (of polygamy) will commence again after the Second Coming of the Son of Man and the ushering in of the millennium." But all of this Mormon talk is neither here nor there - bring on the bleached blondes and their creepy grandpa!



Holly and Kendra went with the overly bleached/almost white color while Bridget went with a darker, more natural color so compared to the other two, her hair looks much less processed. I do like her hair color much better - something about that fake towheaded look just screams PORN. And not just because of Jenna Jameson!



Considering how hideously the guest room is decorated, Bridget is probably lucky that her room was painted at all. I think she said in the first episode that she loooooves pink, so either she lucked out getting the old girlfriend's room or she talked herself into loving pink so that she wouldn't go crazy staring at those fuschia walls.



She definitely has the kind of voice that would prompt Adam and Dr. Drew to take bets ("I'm going with molested by an uncle!" "No, I'm going with alcoholic mother and absent father!").



Considering that Bridget said she likes getting the test models really drunk the night before their photo shoots, I wouldn't be surprised if she was the one trying to pour all kinds of nasty stuff into Holly and Kendra's shampoo bottles. Then again, I could see Kendra getting really drunk when one of her friends was visiting and thinking it would be a hilarious prank.

Great link Pity Free! I found their limo service - Cosmo limos .. they slap a magnetic playboy bunny sign on the side of it when they go out.

I can't recall which magazine I saw this in (maybe it was Marie Claire, or Lucky) but there was a picture of Hef with his harem. The first one was taken in the 70's, and he was photographed with 14 women. Then, the next photo was taken in the 80's, and he was pictured with 13 women. Finally, there was a recent picture taken of him, and it was with only his current girlfriends in the show. Some of those women in the previous older pictures weren't as pretty as you think they would be...quite a few of them had decent enough figures, but hatchet-faces.

Hee, the infamous butterfaces!

The Church does not recognize the term "fundamentalist Mormons" and just because these splinter groups may use Mormon in their names, the word Mormon is not really recognized by the Church either. The word was a derogatory term given to early members by those who didn't like them and the PR department of the Church is always asking news groups to refer to them as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and not the Mormon Church.

If you've excommunicated or have never been baptized into the Church you are not recognized as a member of it. Furthermore, just because the Church doesn't practice plural marriage any more, it doesn't mean they still don't believe in the doctrine.

In any case, I didn't make the comparison of Hef and Polygamous Papas to start a religious discussion. I said it because it struck me as funny that money and glitz can condone just about anything.



When I first heard Bridget talk about Playboy she said she used to read her dad's magazines when she was a little girl. She thought the models were SOOOO beautiful that she wanted to be one someday, and then there is the flash to a picture of little kindergarten-age Bridget playing dress-up and the top of her dress stuffed to look like mega-boobs. She didn't need to be molested to get a "different" view of things.

Kendra really lost some weight. She looks better in the picture than she does on the show. I just love that they refer to the "Party Posse" as a "rotating girlfriend supergroup". Gag.

...knowing Hef despises any of the women ever being involved in porn, I wonder how Carmella (Vegas episode) slipped through the cracks...the dye job on her hair is nice (she's really a red head), &nd she obviously had some lipo with that rack...its those big assed teeth of hers that were the dead giveaway as to why she seemed so vaguley familiar to me...boy would heads roll if Hef found out!!!!

....g'night kiddiies

Why, exactly, was Barbi Benton there? Just so she could be a bitch, put everyone down, and act like she's better than they are? (ironic, yes?) I have no idea, but I would assume she has married and moved on since her Hef days, so why was she acting like a jealous girlfriend?

When the five of them were eating at the dining room table, I felt like Kendra was the only one who had any manners. I can't believe I just wrote that. Of course I may be mistaking her constant talking with good manners, just because everyone else was all awkward and silent.

Telling Hef to wear his hat all jaunty-like? I used to tease my grandpa like that too.

The Kendra-Hef relationship remains a mystery. I am also starting to wonder what Hef is doing with 31-year-old Bridget. Of course she's pretty, but she looks about 6 years too old for him. I don't get it.

Barbi Benton married someone very wealthy. I saw a tv show a few years ago where she showed off the absolutely enormous mansion she and her husband owned in Aspen or somewhere like that. The house was very impressive in size but was just about the ugliest thing I have ever seen. Astoundingly ugly. I don't know if she is still married or not.

I've grown to like Kendra in a weird way. She's like an excited little puppy and she doesn't seem to have a mean bone in her body. I rewatched the first episode and she actually calls her life at the mansion a job and then kind of backtracks when she realizes what she said. I know it goes without saying, but she and Hef have absolutely zero sexual chemistry.

It's funny to think that Barbi Benton started dating Hef a good 12 years before Holly was even born. No wonder Barbi felt insecure around the girls.

The epi with Barbi hasn't aired yet here, but I have to laugh at Holly's comment in the previews that she's not jealous of Barbi because Barbi's too old for Hef now. Holly, what do you think will happen in a few years when you're too old Hef?

Hef looks like the late Jim Varney of Earnst/Vern fame : uncanny resemblance.

Gotta give props to Kendra for at least trying to talk to Barbi, who was way too defensive and insecure. Why did she even go? I sure as hell would avoid the "meeting my ex's much younger new squeeze" scene.

I wonder if Hef offers a financial incentive to whoever is astride him when he kicks it, as a way of getting them on there. Dude's got to be so jaded it'll take a 5-horsepower milking machine to get a reaction by now. No wonder Holly counts sex as a workout.

Also, I believe Gizmo will EAT that tiny dog as soon as she gets the chance.

Holly won't have to worry about being too old for Hef, he probably won't be alive long enough to see her reach Barbie's age.

Holly has been looking prettier to me for some reason, maybe it was the false eyelashes? I agree with whoever posted that she should be some rich guy's wife. In that Vegas episode she surely looked like one.

Kendra was really into that party at fight night, she certainly enjoyed herself....I think that's why Hef keeps them under such tight wraps. Some younger good looking guy will coma along and make off with them given the chance.

I liked when Holly was drunk, she loosened up a bit. I wonder if Hef was annoyed when he saw her out of character after all those margaritas.

That Carmella chick, were her boobs done the week before? Wow- those babies didn't even budge!