From my experience, the majority of women/young females I see wearing Playboy branded items are not incredibly attractive, and could defintely never be in the magazine. To put it bluntly...they are kind of trashy.

I wonder what kind of girl would want to wear anything with the Playboy logo on it? Talk about tacky.

Been too busy to watch the latest misadventures of The Girls Next Door but apparently Kendra is still . . . well . . . not very bright and still very much a skank. What can you say about a girl who believes the Olive Garden serves up the best Italian food? Ah, the Olive Garden! They just opened one in my town this week. What can you say about a restaurant that used the slogan, "When you're here you're family"? Oh, yeah, because after I have dinner with my family they hand me a bill for $40 after serving me crappy pasta, chewy bread, and brown lettuce.

I like the Olive Garden! They have yummy alfredo sauce.

But I wouldn't really call it "Italian" food. Kendra probably thinks Taco Bell is rocking Mexican food.

I seriously love this show...I think Hef has an amazing ability to pick girls who are naturally sweet and mostly pretty (some would be beautiful without all the artificial enhancements, fakey hair and lack of taste) and I enjoy watching them.

Having said that, I think the two youngers (Bridget and Kendra) over-act the "cute-but-dumb" bit a little too much. Kendra wasn't ever the sharpest pencil in the box, but in Season 1 it seemed like they either weren't including her dumb comments or she was keeping her mouth shut more.

Playboy is definitely soft-core porn. So what? I don't get the objection to this word. I assume that after Hef passes that Disney will one day take over the publishing duties and that way they can ensure that we are all well supplied with sickly sweet acting, somewhat talented, surgically enhanced and photoshopped attractive females from the cradle to - well, not the grave as that is too old for PB - but perhaps for a couple of decades until their late 20's.

I like pink, and am 32 years old. However, I draw the line at decorating my room like a 5-year-old. If Brigette's room was purple, or even green it would look like a little girl's room. That's what is annoying to me. Hello Kitty should never be used as the decorationg focus of a 30+ woman's bedroom.

People are assuming that if you call something porn, they are saying it's bad. And what's weird, that assumption shows somewhat of a puritanical view of porn. There is nothing wrong with porn inherently--softcore, hardcore--it all has its place. Playboy is softcore porn on par with Skinemax.



No offense but really that's not a very good defense of your own argument.

EXACTLY!!!

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I would wear that little diamond bunny necklace on a night out or something, just for fun. I think it's kind of cute and sexy.

*flees in shame*

I just barely caught the latest episode last night. The one about the slumber party. I can't believe how bitchy Kendra was throughout the whole show. She was mad because she couldn't watch the game. Funny because if she didn't live with Hef she'd probably miss the game anyway since she'd probably be giving a lap dance at some strip club. That girl better straigten up if she dosen't want to end up back in the "ghetto" JMO.

Yeah but Badtz Maru? Entirely rox.

Is it me or does it seem like whenever something new in hip hop comes around Kendra automatically wants it, or wants to do it?

Wait for me!!

HAHA...I'd say the vast majority I always turn away from and shake in horror thinking about them nude in a magazine. The same can be said of most women who wear shirts that say "Hottie" or "I steal boyfriends".

I have no problem with people wearing that stuff, but if you're gonna wear it thinking you're all that and a bag of chips please make sure you haven't eaten that entire bag of chips.

LMFAO!! Isnt that the truth. Thats too funny. Thanks for a laugh on such a crazy day!

I wonder if she has a Hello Kitty vibrator?

Oh my gawd! Hello kitty is a cherished memory from my childhood, and to see it as a vibrator is...disturbing.

Thank you, EarthMomma. What does she spend her salary on? More dogs? They'll need to hire a bulldozer to clear all the Hef!crap someday. If they don't turn it into a Hef Graceland, of course. Or sell it at the bankruptcy auction.

I like the eps where the girls are going shopping - sort of like that scene in "Pretty Woman." Show us the spending of the loot! I lurves me some vicarious retail therapy.

Very well said, Kittycat2002!

Yup. Wonder what she'll do if hip hop ever goes the way of disco, boy bands, etc. I mean, if she's not dead from a drug OD by then.

Hmmmm...this got me to thinking what would be interesting to see on future episodes outside of the trips to hometowns/parties/photo shoots that we have already seen. I think maybe seeing an episode of them doing things on their own (if that is allowed) would be neat to see them outside the context of the mansion, maybe having them do a real "job" for a day, kind of like Simple Life, or even an episode of them helping to put together an issue of the magazine, choosing articles, pics, etc.

I think the show will have pretty much run its course within the next season or two. It was fun for a while, but really, how much is there to work with?

If it is not "porn" then why is the magazine censored in book stores and on the internet? Why is it not as generally available to the public as something like People magazine? And if you are as open-minded as you claim to be, then why does the word "porn" seem to offend you so much? I mean, isn't everything OK?

As for your second statement, just because someone disagrees with your personal opinion does not make him or her "intolerant." Find a new argument. This one is tired.

I saw the previews and am also surprised Hef is going all the way to Europle with the women. E must've twisted his arm, because the guy doesn't like leaving the house. Are they running out of show ideas perhaps?

Read and reread chapten 12 in Izzabella book last night. It was all about the "sex" that happens in Hefs bedroom w/ him and the Girlfriends. I was disgusted but yet fascinated and couldnt help myself I had to keep reading... Holly is DISGUSTING that is all I have to say about her and I hope she is happy with her Puffin ewwww. The whole chapter was bizzare. I kept putting myself in the Girlfriends shoes (not Hollys) and asking myself if I would do the same thing if I was being given the stuff they had. And the answer was NO!! BTW where does Hef get Quaaludes? I thought they were long gone and hard to find. Now, on the other hand if Puffin gave me a few Ludes I just might do anything.......tee hee!!!

Mine is supposed to be delivered today. And I have to say I cannot WAIT to read it! My husband is going to go crazy....I think its going to be one of those books I cant put down lol.

That will never happen as long as control-freak Hef is still kicking.

Now I want to read the book too!
But I don't really want to shell out 25 bucks for it.
My local public library isn't likely to have a copy is it...

My copy of the book was 16 and change through Amazon. Based upon what I am reading I dont think Kendra is going to last long at all. Also Izzy claims Bridgett is married. She does not mention a divorce. Hmmmm. I am still fascinated that these girls live like this (curfews, etc) and put up with it all. When you get the book read chapter 12 ewwww!!! Everytime I watch GND and see Holly Im going to say "Ewwwwwww"! LOL

Ok, for those of us who haven't read the book, someone has got to spill what the "Ewwwwwwwwwww" is!

YES PLEASE!!

Can we please stop debating if Playboy is porn or not and someone tell us what the EEEEEEEEWWWWW is about! Please.

What's the title of this book? Is it on Google Books yet?

Since his room, heck the whole mansion, doesn't seem to have been cleaned properly since the mid 70s, it doesn't seem that strange to me -- he can probably just stick his hand down the back of the sofa cushions and come up with a handful of 'ludes. Maybe he thinks it's retro cool for the young(er) girls? Kind of like how I think my lava lamp is cool, 'cause I wasn't alive in the 70s.

We've just started to get the new series in England, hell it does seem creepier than the first one. Bridget's strip in front of her family was just the most mind boggling.

C'mon Mina8284, give us some of the gory details of Chapter 12. >please<
Not that $16-20.00 bucks is all that much - I just hate the thought of passing my $$ along to any of these skank-women - by purchasing the book.
Sounds like Chapter 12 brings to light a whole new level of ewww.

Just b/c someone jerks off to something doesn't make it porn. Macy's bra ads, for example (from "There's Something About Mary"), National Geographic (I never understood that one), and hitting the freeze frame on an episode of Baywatch. I could go on but I'd rather not.

Art, Girly Photos, Porn is in the eye of the beholder. But that beholder can probably jerk off to all three.

And that will be the last time I use the words "jerk" and "off" together on this forum. Yuck.

That's like saying "I don't view 'Debbie Does Dallas' as a porno. It's just an adult film" Tomato, tomahto.

I'm definitely going to look for it in my library- I've taken out all 3 Janice Dickinson books (yawn, BTW) so they should have this one.



Isn't it called Bunny Tales?

No it isn't. "Adult Film" is a nice way of saying "porno" but it's the same thing. Only the attitude is different.

"Girly Photos" is a nice way of saying "Photos of Naked Women," not porn (in my opinion, of course).

I don't believe "Photos of Naked Women" necessarily equal "porn." I'd probably change my mind if there was a cucumber involved.

I've been to the Playboy mansion and it does look a bit run down in the day light. The screening room in particular looks very unattractive. The grounds are beautiful, however. They have events there (most unrelated to Playboy) almost everyday.

Now the Robert Evans "estate" is another matter. That place is just gross. Woodland smells like rotten tamales.

heee....yous an ass! lol






I wanna go soooooooooooo badly!

Ok so Ill give as much detail as the forum will allow...obviously Puffin takes Viagra to "get the party started" usually taking it when the group is at the club (mind you this is back in 2003-2004) I don't know what takes place now. When everyone gets back to the mansion him and the Girlfriends go upstairs to his room. If any of the girls did not want to participate in having sex with him they would keep their panties on as a signal to him that they did not want to "do it", had their period, or had a yeast infection Ewwwww!!! Izzy states in her book that yeast infections were common due to the fact that Hef uses baby oil to masturbate to "get himself ready" to perform. That in addition to Holly orally pleasuring him to get him ready...EWW. Then whatever girl was ready she would take her position on top and do it for a few minutes, then the next and so on sometimes up to four girls at a time. When no other girl wanted to go, Holly would then using her mouth once again getting him ready for her only then would they (her and puffin) try different positions, when she was done (Oh Daddy!!) he then finished himself off while looking at porn or the other girls kissing....all the while Holly sucking on his nipple.......Ewwwww. If the forum blocks this stuff just get the book and read chapter 12 its all in there. And yes Izzabella did participate a few times she claims it was because she was sexually frustrated because she never slept with anyone else while she was with Hef and the booze made her feel "in the mood" she also talks about having a few intimate moments with other Girlfriends and Playmates. Oh well on to my boring life........Ludes anyone???

I think Playboy jewelry is cute and a lot of girls my age wear them and do the playboy tanon their body. Me,personally I hae never boght any playboy jewelry but i think thats because Im not into jewelry and really dont care much about name brands. I think its because Im cheap and prefer to save my money or spend it on bills and every two weeks I go to the salon and get mani and pedis but thats about it.
As for as the show goes I find it very entertaining and funny. I dont know how someone can say such negative things about people they have never met and from me watching the show I dont see where all this negativity comes from. Its like when I was in high school there would always be one or a bunch of girls that would talk about a girl behind her back and try to find something bad to say about them even though they have never spoken to the girl ever.
But then again this is a message board about a tv show but then again I dont know why some people even watch this show if they find it and the girls lifestyle so "wrong" if a show I was watching left me feelin so much negativity I would not watch it anymore. But whatever some people just find happiness in being miserable.

I like Kendras personality a lot but if I should hang out with her her laugh may annoy me a bit..lol

Im not sure of the names of the other two women but one of them definatly is not in her 20's

The horror... The horror... The whore...

I have a confession.....I too own a PB necklace that I do wear out on occasion. (Hangs head in shame). GNite.

OMG! My book got delivered today around 1pm and here it is almost 9:30 and I just finished it.
It was a super cool book.
Alot of juicy secrets were spilled.
I have to say that after reading this book, I would NEVER want to be friends with Bridget or Holly. They are sneaky.
Plus, the way Izabella felt right before she was leaving seems to mimic the way Kendra is acting (or being portrayed) on the show. It is definately worth the money!

I read the Jill Ann Spaulding book (it's online as an E book) and she said pretty much the same stuff, she also added how Holly will towel off Hef's penis before another girl takes her turn!

Gee, that sounds like such a hot and sexy scene! I wish I could be a girl friend--NOT! I'm going to bleach my brains now.

the fred, that sounds really disgusting! he creeps me out more than Hef does!


I have to admit I really like the show and the girls. I'm sure a lot of the things written in the book are true and I thought about buying it but I know once I read it, I wont watch the show the same way again. My opinion is Hef and the girls know they're all taking advantage of the situation and they're okay with that so more power to them. I'm still a fan(I just dont care to know too much about the freaky stuff going on!). And I do think Kendra wants out of there soon.

I caught the "Easter egg hunt" episode recently (Shaddup! There was nothing better to watch at the time) and, wow. Where to begin? Using their gawd-given talent to blow the insides out of eggs? Children on the grounds? The dog party?

I was going to buy the Jill Ann book, but Holly said in an interview that it was all lies and said Jill wasnt even a girlfriend and that she only stayed for a few days before she was told to leave. I read a few exerpts for the book and thought what a bunch of fluff.
But, after reading Izabellas book, I think that the stuff in Jill Ann's was probably the truth. Like Jill Ann said that they all wear pink pjs matching Hef's on sex night and that a bath is drawn for them and another girlfriend, not the main one, is orchestrating the whole thing and telling them what to expect. In Izabellas book, she confirmed the matching pjs and the bath thing and said the Bridget orchestrated the whole thing and told new girls what to expect and the "rules". So now I think maybe Holly said that whole book was full of lies because maybe it was the truth.....I am thinking Im going to buy Jill Anns book now. I hear it has even more juice then Izaebllas.......

Don't waste your money on JillAnn's book.

Out of the 300+ pages, maybe 15 contain any type of substance. The information does match Isabella's in regards to teh Hefsex moments, but the rest of the book? Purely tragic, both in content and in the writing. Not worth the money, IMO. I found it free online, it's the only way it's worth the hour it'll take to read the WHOLE thing.

JillAnn came across, to me, as bitter and jealous. She wanted nothing more than to become a Playmate, and sunk pretty low to try to get there, begging and grovelling Hef's secretary for invites to parties, etc. Unfortunately, despite all her efforts, including plastic surgery, she just is NOT Playmate material. Of course, the pics in the book are unfortunate too, as is JillAnn's face. She looks more like an albino transvestite than like a PM or a Hef g/f.

She mentions Holly and Bridget by name, apparently Bridget wasn't yet a g/f when JillAnn had her 4 day mansion stay, but an "extra" girl brought in solely for sex. But she does state the same things about how sex goes as Isabella does: Holly warms him up and goes last too.

Edited because my computer is being spastic and finished sentences are the new, stylish thing.

Where might I be able to read the Jill Ann Spaulding book for free online?

http://www.toppairmagazine.com/jillann_folder/Hefnerland.pdf

Here's one of them.

I love these chicks writing these bitter little tell alls; as though Hef single handedly plucked them for their church bake sales and forced them into a life of sin and debauchery. I mean really....a man with 7 girlfriends; that he bankrolls...actually has sex with them..??? Get out!! And here I thought all that went on in the mansion were nightly Canasta tournaments. I guess you really can't judge a book by it's cover.

And I believe "Girly Mags" is just a nice way of saying printed porn. If it is a picture of a naked person taken for profit with the intent of sexual gratification for the consumer I'm confident that the "porn" title is pretty appropriate.

However, that's just my opinion as well. I'm so curious as to why people are so defensive about calling Playboy porn. Porn is legal - no worries.