Newbie here. I have been reading everything and am impressed! Thank you to Natalie who read the book and gave us a recap. I watch the show, but think that it is all about marketing and nothing more. I think that when you live with an old man who pays you for being there, its prostitution plain and simple!

This actually surprises me. I would think being such a control freak, Hef would have them sign paperwork out the wahzoo so they can't write a book like this. Who knows? Maybe he thinks it makes him look like a stud or something.

I'm guessing since he is such a champion of the right to print whatever you want it would be a tiny bit skeezy to make the girlfriends sign something forbidding 1st amendment rights.

This is true...and I never thought of it that way. I just wonder why we never hear anything from any of the other exes. It just seems odd, unless they are embarrassed by the whole thing and just want to forget it ever happened and move on with their lives/careers.

Bridget used to be a stripper at the Spearomint Rhino and Kendra was also a stripper at Cheetah's I believe.

I too am shocked that there is no formal contract that the girls have to sign before they step into the Mansion. Hmm there has to be a lot of un-written rules and what not. I wonder how much Hef's salary is? It would be really funny to know that Christie holds the purse strings and gives dear old dad a set allowance so we doesn't waste her inheritence on the "Whores Nexxt Door!"

*nexxt was misspelled for a reason!

Well,I think up until the last few years the press has respected celebrity secrets-I am not sure girls before thought their side would be believed, or like you said they would embarassed to be known as basically hookers. Or Hugh was their sole means of post girlfriend support or their husbands objected. I would love to know why myself,if any former GF's are surfing here.

I would love a tell all book written by Barbi Benton. Now that is a book worth reading with all the history she witnessed. I especially enjoyed the episode where Barbi can back to the Mansion and started dissing Hef's new girls and Holly didn't look too happy that his old flame was back. That episode really showed how insecure Holly and Bridget are.

I wonder too why more of his "girlfriends" haven't come out of the closet and written books?

Everyone who said thanks for the books recap - you're welcome :)

Also, re: Kendra working at Cheetah or however it's spelled. I am ashamed to know this, but that's the name of the strip club Elizabeth Berkley's character, Nomi Malone, originally worked at in Striptease. *Hangs head in dirty dirty shame*

Edited to add:
You can know buy season one of TGND from E!Online for only $24

Also - does anyone think Kendra's brother is maybe a Blood? Did you notice how him and all of his friends that came over were all wearing red? I think it's possible he could be in a gang.

I say the producers rename the show this! It's more fitting and besides, how many of us have girls next door that look like Kendra, Holly and Bridget?

WHORES NEXT DOOR!
WHORES NEXT DOOR!
WHORES NEXT DOOR!


ALL together now!!

My first thought was that they were wearing school colors.

I think that Kendra's closing dialogue has to be the most we've ever heard of her "deep thoughts." However, as some have expressed earlier, I found some of the stuff about Hef saving her is a little uncomfortable.

lvmom said:

I think the reason Holly tolerates Bridget, and especially Kendra, is because she knows they're no competition for her. If either one of them were trying to be #1 Girlfriend I'm pretty sure Holly would manipulate things so that the competition would be kicked out of the harem.

In watching this episode for a second time last night, I have to say, that "cutoff mumu" as CrazyMacy called it, was not flattering at all. It made her look odd, and with those knee socks, I was like, WTF?

Anyway, the part about Hef trying to "steal" the videos was creepy. He saw them once, how many times do you really want to watch old (or not-so-old) home videos? Why would he want to take them from her family like that. It gave me the heebie-jeebies.

Holly was definitely getting snarky about Kendra. How many times did she mention that Kendra "wasn't really from the 'hood"? And she said it in a pretending-to-be-funny-yet-condescending way that I found really annoying.

I actually felt kind of bad for Kendra and her mom at the end. It was as if she couldn't do a good enough job raising her daughter so Hef had to "save" her. I thought it also appeared that Kendra was genuinely heartbroken to leave her family and friends to go back to the confines of the mansion. It seemed like she was almost doing this more out of necessity than anything else.

And word to the poster who commented on the gross-factor of Kendra's mom volunteering to be one of Hef's girlfriends.

Now it makes sense why Kendra likes to live with Hef. She didn't have a dad and Hef has given her structure in her life. Her mom was a single mother and probably was too tired or stressed out to really be there for Kendra. Her mother seemed very flaky not knowing how to do anything.

How did she get away with never cooking for her kids? It always amazes me that people who have kids don't know how to take care of them properly and keep on having more and more.

I hate those knee sox that Holly wears. It looks like she is trying to be 10 again.

The movie is called Showgirls...and there's no need to hang your head in shame; it's a classic. Striptease was the Demi Moore atrocity from the same time period, it's a diet coke version of Showgirls.

I think Hef secretly likes the tell all books that surface. What good is a legacy if there aren't salacious behind the scenes books to add fuel to the fire? Besides, I don't think she really says anything all that incriminating, and you don't have to be Dr. Ruth to figure out Hef is the visual type. Nothing she said struck me as out of the ordinary.

I have to come to Kendra's mom's defense. My Mom hated cooking. There were lots of convenience foods; Some-Kind-of-Animal Helper, Frozen tater tots, frozen pizza, hot dogs, Campbell's soup, canned veggies boiled to death, etc. (Oh my gosh -- and the horrible way she used to make grilled cheese! I actually tease her about that now!) Lucily Dad wasn't a picky eater. I actually had the same kind of food preferences Kendra has shown when I was as young and skinny; fried food, grease, etc. That's why I think our Moms were kind of similar. My Mom worked from the time I was a middle schooler - and I assume that Kendra's mom worked, too. By the time she went back to work, we kids were old enough to throw together dinner.

I, however, didn't let Chef Boyardee become an excuse to work a pole.

You gotta remember though these books being written are women who have been at the mansion in recent years since the beginning of the whole "party posse" era and whatnot...


Barbie and all the other girlfreinds he had, although he was two timing them, he had at a time where there were not "youngins" running around with their "stupid young girl" drama.

It was a really good recap, Natalie! Now I want to read the book. I ought to drop Ms. St. James a line on MySpace, since I'm on her Friends list, after I get my paws on a copy.

Was Cheetah's in Las Vegas? If so, that seems like a popular place to "save" pole-dancers. Casino heir Ted Binion found his allegedly murderous concubine, Sandy Murphy there.

Sorry for veering a bit off-topic, but that's always struck me as a weird name for a strip club.

THIS is on my next T-shirt.

Delurking on this thread to say that I have an unusual connection to Playboy enterprises, in that I am friends with an older former centerfold from way-back (don't want to say which one, but she is my ex-fiance's mother) and she is invited to parties several times a year at the Playboy Mansion. As she is older she wishes to bring a male escort with her, often one of her sons, but has to get all kinds of special dispensation to do so, because "outside males" are not allowed in the parties.

Delurking to say that I also heard the Izabella St. James interview on Stern that was mentioned a page back. I'm almost sure she said that Bridget is married. Did I miss something? Is that true, and if it is, how does that work?

I know we've seen this before, but I hate how Kendra's mom thinks that Hef is the bees knees for taking her wayward daughter into the fold. Being a concubine for an 80 year old ain't nothing to fete! Methinks the bar wasn't set terribly high for her children.

This is the Madame duBarry question: Is it more acceptable to be a mistress, if you're the king's mistress?

This gets us into Camilla Shand Parker-Bowles territory. (Excuse me, HRH The Duchess of Cornwall.)

well apparently, the way it goes is the "ho-bag, side peice, seven of nine" types are the ones on the come up...us one man woman types can forget it!

Hi everyone,
i have been reading the boards for quite some time but just now registered to post.

I am wondering, apparently the girls dont get much of an allowance ($4000 a month is it?) to be able to save for after leaving BUT

does anyone know if they were paid for some of the other things they are doing now as a result of their popularity from being stars of their own televeision show:
such as:

• their 2 playboy covers?
• the capt. morgan promo ad
• bridgetts stint guesting on that playboy tv show

i just wonder if they are saving a little for after they leave the mansion. I do think that Bridget and Kendra will be ok when they leave because Bridget has a college education and Kendra has a massage license so she can be an high class erotic masseuse and make ALOT of money, but i dont know what Holly would have to fall back on.

I am just curious if anyone knows if these girls are getting rich as a result of this show and if so why do they even need to live at the mansion still?

Well, the rumor and it is just a rumor says that Bridget is married, but they "seperated" so she could persue her dream of Playboy.

Editing because I forgot to say thank you to Natalie 0628 for the recap-thank you!

I think it depends on who the girls' agent is. If Playboy Inc. is acting as the girls' representative, then the girls probably don't receive much of a bonus for their outside work. Certainly they can be considered employees of Playboy and covers and television shows within the Playboy empire aren't going to merit as much for a Whore Next Door as the would for a nonattached whore.

I wonder how much money E is paying the girls to do TGND or is Hef getting most of it?

I'm delurking to say that Cheetah's was actually a real club in Las Vegas (I've a native) until a few years ago. The owner, Mike Galardi, was busted for paying off county commissioners and bribing them with girls to have sex with at the club. It was huge story for a few years, and it was dubbed as "Operation G-Sting" by the press. He also owned the Cheetah's San Diego club where Kendra danced. It doesn't surprise me that she worked at such a shady club. I'm sure there was lots of drugs and prostitution going on behind the scenes.

Yes, Bridget is still married. I belong to another forum and we have been unable to find any legal documents that say she is divorced.

Kendra was a druggie until Hef saved her from her life of stripping and drugging and hanging out with the wrong crowd.

Would these be medical in nature?

I think whatever is left over goes up their noses. Kendra is quite energetic, no?

The girls don't seem terribly bright. I'd bet money they aren't saving. I am sure Kendra is thinking, "I'll be young and skinny and doing my signature pose forever!!! sniiiiifffffff" Holly thinks her retirement fund is between her legs. Bridgette spends all of her money on costumes and pink hair bows.

Its been established Hef's daughter runs the company and holds the pursestrings, Hef is probably on an allowance (albiet a generous one, I can't see him living like poor Brooke Astor or anything.)



Figured as much. Which is sad, because she'll return to that life after her time in the spotlight is over (or maybe even during.) Depending on someone else to "save" you and make sure you don't go down the wrong path is a recipe for disaster, especially when said savior is a borderline-pedophile pornographer with a notorious reputation for trading in for a younger model(s).

escapetochg, what board are you talking about? I was just wondering because the e! boards are kinda crappy and this one gets slow sometimes.

What is the story on Mr. Bridget?

Is it ok to say another board name here? I don't want to get in trouble.



The only thing we know about her husband is that his name is Chad Christopher Marquit (sp??)

Heck,as far as I know you can even link here,escapetochg. We link to celebs Myspace accounts all of the time. You just can't pimp your own site. Maybe just link to the specific post that has to do with Bridgets husband?

Here you go Michelle.

BWAH!!! That's awesome Pityfree!!!!




On the show you see a lot of male celebrities at the parties, mostly athletes/actors. I assume it's OK for male celebrities to be there for the notariety, but not "average Joe" guys to come as dates of the invited girls.

That being said, it is obvious that there are WAY more girls there than guys. I guess Hugh wants to keep the girl : guy ratio high to keep up the Playboy illusion.



This is a great question! I would assume that each of the girls would get a certain amount, maybe Holly gets more since she's the "#1", and Hef probably gets a certain amount, and Playboy Enterprises probably gets some too, since a lot of the show deals with the magazine. I would love to know what the breakdown is!

I wondered if Holly & Bridget had any say over the Capt Morgan ad. Hef came in and said they were doing it, and they were excited but I wondered if they were consulted about money or does he (or his people) make that decision.

As soon as Bridget gets the boot out of the Mansion, you KNOW she is going to write a book. That would make a good read in addition to maybe she might share her real thoughts on Holly and her "quest" to the the #1 girlfriend.

That should be a great book, maybe in her biography she can also talk about what it was like during prohibition...damn that chick is old. Put on some more bows and talk even higher and maybe we'll forget your age.

I would LOVE to hear Bridget's take on the whole thing since she has been on the fringes trying to get inside. Something tells me girl can SNARK!

Hmm I don't think she is 32 I believe she is much older! That is why she tries so hard to act young.

I would not be surprised if the girls have not received any money for the TV show, pictorial or Capt. Morgan ad. Since they are on a stipend, they are already employees of Playboy, and all this work could be used by Hef and the company as just being part of their job.

escapetochg, that is an excellent website. Thanks!

I would really like to read Barbi Benton's book is she were to write one. It seems like she would've done so by now, but I'll bet she has some great stories. I think she was one of Hef's big loves, and I enjoyed her visit last season. Remember the snarky comment she made about the pool table getting "a lot of action." I was quite amused at the bitchy horror on Holly's face.

I think Bridget is probably 32 and it not lying about her age. I have known many women who looked much older than their years, and it was usually due to sun damage. I have a good friend who is 40 and continues to go to tan beds and her skin is fried, although she is a very pretty woman. I've been nagging her for years to quit tanning. I grew up in Alaska and saw very little sun, and I think the upside of that is I've heard for years that I look younger than I am (although I've also been told I'm "pale" and "should get some sun," so pick your poison). In fact, I have a friend who is only 25 and she had her first Botox injection at 24, mainly because of sun damage.

Was it my imagination or was Kendra's mom's laugh almost as stupid as Kendra's? Did anyone else notice?

I am ashamed to admit that I am seriously considering surfing ebay for Bunny Tales. Maybe someone has already read it and is ready to sell. This is what I have become.

About the baby oil: hasn't Hef ever heard of KY? They make that stuff to prevent the yeast infections that other junk might cause. Helllooooooooooo Hef! You'd think he'd know this by now. The man obviously has a Viagra supplier.

P.S. So has Hef slept with Pamela Anderson? Wasn't that what she implied during her drunken E interview?

Heh. No. Anderson said, Happy 80th birthday, and she promised to have sex with him on his 90th birthday.

Oh no! Looks like Puffin may be replacing Bridget with some other girl! I found this on wikipedia.



i also found Holly's Myspace

I'm sorry about the flub - I defintely ment Showgirls, not Striptease. Crappy movies, both start with S, both are about skanks.

Anyways, Izabella did mention in the book that Hef doesn't like any outside males to come to his parties, and that if they were in clubs or anything, Hef would get really ticked when the girls even talked to other guys anywhere at all.

I think Izabella owns on Holly, Bridge and Kendra..they're gross. And has anyone seen their Cap'n Mo's ad in any magazines? I'm sure it's in Playboy....I've been tempted to buy it before, for the articles, because I don't even know why guys buy it for the pictures, honestly. It's like, wow a pair of plastic titties and stretched out nipples that look like fried boobs. You can see more in a 10 second Google search.

I thought that scene where Hef tells Holly and Bridget they were doing the Capt Morgan ad looked very contrived.
Like the girls were previously instructed to "look thrilled at this opportunity", and Holly and Bridget did their best "acting" to look the part.
Unfit4society I get the feeling that 'ol Hef is making ALL the calls about what the girls do (and when and how).
Sure sounds like it from the excerpts we've seen from the book and other sources mentioned.


Hey escapetochg thanks for the link !
So much to snark on - so little time.
Looks like I have one more site to spend time at while on the computer - when I should be doing other things.

ITA with cedar7... given how Hef/Playboy have made their money by exploiting women (like $4k for a photo shoot that nets the company hundreds of thousands (I have no actual idea of the numbers so please correct me)), do we really think that the girls would be allowed any significant money for this?

What a catch-22: they can only make money independently, but as soon as they leave the mansion, their worth drops to zero in the sea of (prettier and talented) women in LA.

Thanks for the info on the book, Natalie, and thanks to escapetochg for that link to snark-o-topia. I'm already in love with everyone there.

They really need to get the episodes where they go to France already, so we can snark about how they are "helping" the "reputation" of the US there, haha.

I forgot to add that my sister went to middle school with Destiny Davis, and her name back then was Destiny Green. I'm disgusted to find out that she's finishing a degree in economics from my alma mater, UNLV.

ETA: I don't think these have been posted on this site (I've been a lurker here from the beginining).

Bryant's myspace: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...riendid=5258337

Anastasia's myspace: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendID=25102468