Thanks Tango Lady !

I am heavily medicated right now and feel the need to be honest. I don't have any fan crushes on the pro male dancers but I have to say I will gladly slow dance with any one of them to Careless Whisper or Take My Breath Away. (No stretch pants though) My god, I was getting hot just watching them tonight. (must be my fever :-)

If they could just throw on a pair of jeans or an old olympic sweatsuit, I would be a very happy girl. Heck, Jonathon's hair could come off and I wouldn't care. I could just dance on and on and on and on...........smokin' hot !

ETA: Can you explain that?

They say "in no particular order" for everyone above the last two.

Not alone. In fact, I agree with every one of your comments, except one. I glare at Master P, and feel horrible for Ashly. But "uncomfortable" was exactly the word I used earlier. And now that Her Twitchyness is gone, I can focus on disliking P and wanting him gone, too.

You know, I'm not right about the results of a competition very often. That was odd.

Oh, and Jesse McCartney is a Disney kid (Disney owns Hollywood Record), so ABC has a vested interest in promoting him. I'm sure that part of the agreement for his appearance was that he had to be on camera while singing and dancing. I thought that the direction for the musical guest segment was better than last week, at least.

ETA: They say "in no particular order" every week, but the first person called has invariably been the person who had the highest judges' score the previous week. Their "random" order has never seemed that random to me.

Big time, and I'm sure for all the same reasons. Note to Jerry: your competition is Nick, Stacey, and maybe Giselle.

I'm not surprised at the results. I liked Tatum the first week. This week she just made me feel all spongey, and not in a good way. I can't really imagine anyone dialing for her. Still, I was sad to see her go. I don't even like watching MP dance; at this point I just leave the room.

After watching the recaps: Stacey wows me [her legs and her partner's ass make for one hell of a deadly spectacle, and I mean that in only the best sense], but Tia has my heart.

I appreciate your sunny attitude, but IMO nothing will motivate that piece of crap to do better. Jerry might be doing the "nice" thing in the interviews, but he does not strike me as dumb. That Mister P of crap should have been gone. Last week. And I think Jerry knows that. What I don't understand is why Mister P of Shit deserves some special treatment. What the hell is so special about him? He can't dance, his clothes look like shit and the shoes! Asshole.

While I liked the 22 minutes of dance review, I really would have liked to see what next weeks dances should look like done by the pros. Having said that, I looked at last nite's dances in a very different light after hearing the judges comments and reading here. Oddly enough, I saw mistakes that I didn't see last night, and DID NOT see mistakes that I saw last night. Wierd.

A question for viewers of the last installment… is this Edyta woman the same woman who wore a costume that was cut down to her butt -- and wore it amazingly -- and was really "hard?" If so, she is showing another side, and WOW! I'm straight and she is, um, WOW!

Sorry to see Tatum leave (dear goD imagine having her father AND being married to JohnMc), shit, I'll have a drink for her. I can totally understand her hang-ups regarding her father not going to the awards show with her, she was 10 or 11, not an adult.

They're both black, and they're both athletes (though not quite of the same caliber). They fall into vaguely similar "categories" and therefore see each other as both the one they'd probably hang out with in real life (if P weren't an idiot), and the one they see as a natural rival. I'd expect the same thing to be going on if John O'Hurley and George Hamilton were on the same season: old white men who think they're cooler than they are go at it. There's nothing wrong or racist about it, just a commonality that's a basis for a relationship, especially between two men.

When P goes (pleasepleasepleasesoon) it wouldn't surprise me if Jerry develops a similar rivalry with Stacy, as she's the other "athlete" around or with George, as he's the other "old man" of the bunch.

I saw it as Nick suggesting that his heart was thumping really hard from the sheer excitement of it all or something.

I still can't believe Miller's not gone yet.

That's how I took it. Unfortunately, I think Master P thinks of himself as Terrell Owens. And even that's not a good analogy, because T.O. was as talented as Rice and practiced and played almost as hard. He was allowed to be an asshole because he could back up his talk. P can't say shit because he's a total loser. He was a fucking joke during his laughably short stint in the NBA PRESEASON, and he's a joke now. I think the only way P would be motivated is if they import a drill sergeant to say stuff like that to his face and totally break him.

I don't think it's rigged (the host sure seemed shocked Master Pathetic didn't go), but I'm worried the more we talk about it, the more his supporters--whoever they are--will get up an effort to keep him. Like the "Vote for the Worst" campaign to keep Scott Savol. Urgh. So childish. But I'm heartened seeing him in the bottom 2. His days are definitely numbered--thank goodness!

It's her lips that terrify me. I hate seeing the underside of the lip hanging out, and hers do that--I wouldn't mention it if it hadn't been shown to me that she injects them with silicone. Enough already!! Urgh. Other than that, I think she's a nice woman with a great husband and I hope she gets better scores. I also can't understand why MPathetic is getting scores as high as he is in comparison to the other dancers? Why are they cutting him a break?

That's what I saw also.

Oh, god, that was a funny image! Please let it be so!


That's a nice thought--for Jerry. But why does M Pathetic need the kid glove treatment, need to be coddled, need special treatment? THAT'S why he's M Pathetic! He's a grow man, for God's sake, not a kid you're trying to get interested in dance class he doesn't really want to attend. M Pathetic can motivate his own damn ass.

I'm in the camp who stares at Stacy's body in shock and awe. Is she for real!? She must be, but wow, is she a living Barbie, or what? I'm amazed she's wrestling, when she could be a model, or spokesmodel, or--yeah--dancer. I hope she uses this as a springboard to something better (sorry, wrestling fans). I like her and want to see more of her. And yes, I'm a hetero woman.

While I agree that Tatum is a little whack, I did feel sorry for her on her dance-out with Nick. It looked like she was trying hard not to cry. Is the last dance always just a slow dance, and not the same routine they performed the night before? I kind of liked that better, and thought it was nice when the other dancers came to lend support. I think it's always insulting to have the loser have to perform one more time for the camera and the tv audience who they know already doesn't love them (we have American Idol to thank for this).

When a couple finishes performing and they're walking over to the judges table, we always see all three of them writing a number or something down on a pad in the middle of the table. Are they already sharing their scores with the other judges so they know how they will be voting? It's distracting.

Anyone else find it odd that they wear the exact same outfit two nights in a row?

Lisa's nervousness totally bugs. When she gets voted out, she will be bawling buckets.

I thought Tia was still popular also, but I guess people have already forgotten about Wayne's World and seemed to skip Relic Hunter.

Stacy is simply gorgeous. I think she has an advantage not only because of her past ballet training, but because as a wrestler she has to choreograph all of her movements and such. It must be easy for her to pick up routines and practice them.

Why? Why is P still on my tv? That asstastic, arrogant lug dancing the Jive or Tango next week? Oh, the horror! I feel so horrible for Ashly. She's been so sweet and cute. Her tired, unenthusiastic expression at being told that they weren't eliminated was very telling on how much this whole P thing is taking its toll on her. FREE ASHLY!!!

Tony and his real partner were good. That was some sharp dancing! But I still wanted all the pros to dance and demonstrate how Jive and the Tango really looks like for next week. And those dancing acrobatic pros were good. I loved it! But, Jesse McCartney? No, just no.



I was there Thursday night. And I don't know why the audience doesn't seem to like Tia and Maksim. I clapped for her the same amount I did for all the others (except for P, whom I clapped all of 5 seconds just for Ashly). My Aunt is a big Tia fan, though, and was cheering her ass off for those two. Unfortunately, she got seated at the last row of the right side of the audience (along with 2 other people we were with) and couldn't really be heard near the floor or the audience mics strung on the ceiling. But, yeah, I did think there was a lack of response for Tia/Maksim (along with Tatum/Nick and P/Ashly) with the audience that particular night. There were applauses but, obviously fewer and much softer than the other dancers/celebs. A few girls in front of me didn't even do the mandatory "standing ovation" after their performance. I guess those 3 weren't the favorites of the audience I went with. BTW, barkley, if Alec was there, I was sadly unable to glimpse his hot self. *sigh*

Can anyone tell me when Barry Manilow will be on the results show? Is it next week? My Aunt found out and she really wants to go when he's on there. My sister is sweetening her friend up to, hopefully, get us in again. :)

I've watched Stacey for years on WCW and now WWE. What I find most refreshing is that she has resisted the pressure to have breast augmentation like so many other wrestling divas (or women in general). She has a modest breast size and carries it wonderfully.

Why, why, why is lardass still around???????? He is a giant disrespectful hippo ---AND his dancing was NOT much improved from last week (judges, take note). As sorry as I feel for his partner, he should not be there. Tatum was far superior to that big stupid moron. Help! I don't understand.

P.S. Lisa's lips are scary.

He is a self-made man with $300 million. He has talents, just not on the dance floor.

Are all the pros teachers as well, or are some of them just teaching for this show?

Because while I agree that Tatum is a whackjob and would have been difficult for anyone, I just wonder if a more sensitive teacher - like say Jonathan - might have been better suited to her.

Jonathan seems to really care about his celebrity student (both of them) and looks so darn happy for them when they score well. I also think I have a little crush on Jonathan because he looks like the actor who played Gilbert Blythe in the Anne of Green Gables miniseries.

I also like Cheryl as a teacher. I really get the sense that she treats Nick like a "real" student; one who is trying to learn the dances properly, not just remember some specific choreography for one performance. With the other couples, the choreography is somehow obvious that 'this is the celebrity, this is the dancer' and with Nick and Cheryl, it is more equal.

I saw that, too. Nick putting his hand on his heart and then making a motion that would indicate how much his heart was thumping. And then after the final dance, I thought it was really moving how the other dancers immediately moved to encircle and embrace him. It was obvious they respect and adore him.

I didn't even know who Master P was before this series, but, as a woman who is a major klutz, with more left feet than legs, and one who has always dreaded having to dance where people can actually see me, I think I can read him like a book.

I think P, as a big and heavy guy, is afraid of looking clumsy, ungainly, oafish, and foolish, and he's covering up his fear with a facade of not-caring and disdain. So deep and so painful is his self-consciousness that he'd rather look like a rude poor sport than to let it be seen that he cares, and cares deeply.

What's more, he probably perceives that the show's pairing him up with tiny little Ashly is a sign that they're all too eager to exploit his size to make him look laughable. I.e., nothing they'd like better than to show him as the Disney-cartoon big elephant lurching around with the dainty, long-eyelashed mouse.

Inside, he's just a scared teenager in prom season, filled with sick dread. And for that, I feel for him.

I wish that some of his show-biz comrades of comparable girth would call him up, and tell him they know where he's coming from, and encourage him to conquer his fear. Jerry Rice is trying to do what he can, but -- not his fault -- he's useless here, because he's lithe, agile, and physically gifted. P needs to hear from hefty guys, like say Cedric the Entertainer, who understand what P's world feels like from inside his shoes. Maybe they could get him to appreciate that people would love -- or at least, respect -- him for the two things that terrify him most: making himself vulnerable and trying.

BWAH!

There's just something... plastic about Stacy. I don't know if it's her face or fakey hair or the posing or what, but she just strikes me as one of those creepy full-kid-sized dolls writ large.

To me the ones that have a real shot at this are: Jerry, Stacy, Drew, George and Giselle. Giselle I think is my favorite female dancer and if she loosens up a bit more I think she will be really fabulous and I love her attitude! My favorite guy is a toss up between Jerry and George they both are great at dancing and have such good personalities. As much as I love Tia I just don't think she is going to get much farther. As for Lisa she is good but in some ways lacks a certain something. Then there is Ashly and her partner seeing as how I think he is ABC's way of getting ratings I don't know how long he will stay.

See, I'm in Canada, and I can vote, but only on my land line. My cell doesn't go through.

It's very weird. Ugh.

Master P is still on? You know, I feel he should have been sent home on the merit of his terrible dancing alone, but even if he danced better, at this point I would still vote for him to go, because it's one (granted, fairly idiotic) thing to refuse to wear the shoes, but was it really necessary to throw Ashly's gift on the floor, and kick it!?! That was borderline cruel, if you ask me. Don't wear the shoes, fine, but can't you try to be nicer about it? Was there really a need to throw it back in the poor girl's face?

So apparently, in order to send tht message to kids that they can get out of the 'hood, you have to teach them to show no amount of respect or care for other people? Nice. I'm sorry, but there is a difference between being true to yourself and just being a general ass to everyone around you.

I guess I can say that I too feel that he is ruining the show for me. He's so unpleasant, especially to his dance partner, that his presence acts like a vacuum that sucks all the happiness out of the show (for me anyway). I'm not sure if that makes any sense, but I don't quite know how else to put it.

Damn it Tatum - why did you have to have such a pissy attitude this week and make yourself so unlikable? We were "this" close to getting that idiot off the TV screen.

My kids were loving Jesse McCartney - and it was a pretty catchy song.

I was so happy for Tia and Lisa.

I was furious and sad last night, even though I had a feeling that the results would end up as they did. I didn't adore Tatum, but I did like her, and felt she did a better job than the judges acknowledged, not to mention she did very well last week and showed real potential. But the truth is, my sadness really springs from the fact that I have developed a serious crush on Nick and now I won't see him dancing on my tv anymore. ::sobs ridiculously over someone she doesn't even know::

Master P got points from me the first week for taking over for his injured son, but has lost them all. The Great Re-Animated Gangsta shows all the presence and grace of a corpse. He shows no respect for his partner, for the judges, for the show itself. He doesn't even charm me with well-intentioned clumsiness, as Evander Holyfield did last time out.

Save Ashly!

Right now my favorites are Drew, Jerry, Stacy and Giselle. I enjoy George enormously, because he makes a performance of it, injured ribs and all, and has all that suave snarkiness, but I don't think he can - or should - win it. But his quickstep charmed me. I keep waiting for Lisa's upper lip to explode, but she's not a bad dancer - better, again, than the judges seem willing to acknowledge. I neither like or dislike Tia and have no objection to her being around a little longer.

Tom Bergeron showed real emotion last night. He seems more engaged by his hosting duties than he did the last time. Oh, and TudorPrince asked me who Samantha is and I had no idea. Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

Samantha works for the E! channel. That's about all I know about her.

Stinger97: It may have to do with the amount of attention he's getting in the media. He was on Jimmy Kimmel that first week. Just yesterday on The View one of the hosts was wearing a 'Vote P' shirt and while they were interviewing Alicia Keyes they showed a clip of his performance and Alicia commented on how much respect she had for him or some such crap.

I actually quite liked Tatum, but I'll miss Nick more. I loved the embrace Maksim gave him at the end, with all the whispering. So adorable.

ETA: Thanks for the insight on the Tia/Maksim snub, SleepDeprived. I'm glad to hear they did have some support. I just wish that had come off on screen.

How come I can't get the Neutron Dance song out of my head? I'm going nuts and I never liked the song when it first came out.

Well...we don't know if those were the only comments they made (editing & all that, y'know) they both might have commented on every single other dancer, but the only clips of theirs that TPTB chose to play were the ones they made about each other. Blech. I agree that Jerry was being gracious in his comment/s about P. I also think that they kept replaying the SAME single comment that Jerry made about P "bringing it on" or whatever. Looked to me like the same clip each time.

Anyhoo...
Jess WhatsHisName? TOTAL MichaelWackoJacko knockoff. Souded just like him.

It was very interesting watching the clips of each dance replayed last night, without a 5 minute interruption of commercials in between each. I came to the conclusion that Lisa/RasslerWoman were the best females. Best movement & all that. But Stacy didn't really DANCE must. Just wriggled around nicely. I found Giselle just painful to watch, she's so stiff. I didn't see the sexy at ALL that everyone (including her) was raving about. Tia is adorable, and I think she's verrrry sexy, but her routine was just 'meh' & a bit dull. Jerry & Drew are by FAR the best males (and perhaps best performers) in the competition. But I lurve George, he's just fabulous. Shouldn't win, but I'm not ready for him to leave yet. MasterP??? The HELLL???? What is he still doing there? That just pisses me off. Tatum was much better than that, no matter how aggravating she was/is.

This show jumped the shark for me last night. I'm going to give it another week but if Mr. Pathetic isn't gone, then I will be.

One of the best things about last season was that good or bad dancers, all the contestants were good sports. They all gave it an honest go and got into the spirit of it. They all tried.

Now all of that has been poisoned by P Miller. There are reasons why I was watching DtwS and not watching the Surreal Life, Jerry Springer, etc. I am not interested in watching stupid and rude behavior. I wasn't tuning in for controversy. I was tuning in for fun. Watching someone be rude and aggressive (kicking a gift across the floor?), snubbing the whole concept (wear the proper footwear for cripes sake!), being surly and uncooperative and attributing his bad manners to "the hood" -- it's not fun. If you don't want to dance, don't got on a dance show! And now he is prevailing while people who were honestly trying and were entertaining (Bring back Kenny Mayne!) and who got into the spirit of the show are sent packing.

Maybe ABC thinks they are getting more ratings from the controversy, but there is just as much chance they are losing their core audience.

Not at all. It's so the audience can associate each couple with their look during their previous performance. Also, costumes are incredibly expensive and the production budget would in all likelihood not allow for new costumes just for the results show. A long ballgown costs between $2200 (for a starter) to $5000 (for a top-level dress for a top-level pro). Latin dresses run from about $1800 to about $3500. A suit for a man that is properly cut for dancing costs about $1500-$3000, but fortunately they can vary the men's looks by changing their shirts and accessories each time so they aren't quite as expensive. Men's Latin pants go from about $150-$300, and their shirts run from about $200-$400.



They all teach, but they don't all teach adult amateur students. Ashly, Andrea, and Edyta mostly taught amateur youth couples before the show, so their teaching experience isn't quite the same as Jonathan's or Tony's, who have a lot more experience teaching adult beginners and prepping them for competition. Interestingly enough, the pro with the least amount of teaching experience, Cheryl, seems to be doing one of the best jobs! She's really doing a great job with the choreography, too.

I'm really starting to love her. At first I was a little 'meh', but she and Drew really do seem to have a great friendship, and although she's hard on him, she's not skimpy with the praise. During the quickstep rehearsal footage when she finally says, "That was great, Drew!" his whole face just lit up and I wanted to give him a cookie.

She seemed vaguely familiar. Then, I read she was the host (which is a minimal role, since the butler Paul was the real host) of Joe Millionaire 2 - the one in Europe.

I love Cheryl. She's my favorite of the professionals. I agree she seems to be doing the best job with the choreography. And she seems to be really patient with Drew. I also like Anna with Jerry as well.

I think you may be on to something here, and it that is indeed the case then I can sympathize with him. I do see smatterings of vulnerability cross bis face from time to time.

But I still don't believe that it justifies his taking up a spot on a televised dance competition. He is old enough to know his strengths and weaknesses and not set himself up for such a public embarassment if it bothers him so. And failing his ability to judge what is reasonable the producers of this show should have stepped in and removed him.
His remaining in the competition is a smack in the face of the rest of them that are truly working their butts off and trying their best.

He just looks so uncomfortable- I'd give a nickel to know what is really going on in his mind. I know that if it were me in the face of all that very public criticism I would run crying from the room and never come back. I cannot fathom why he keeps showing up.