BrainyBlonde
Jan 13, 2006 @ 1:49 pm
Well, hot damn, I turned on ABC while I was eating lunch and saw an ad for tonight's DWtS. ABC was promoting it as an hour-long episode, saying that there was just too much dancing and exciting surprises to fit into a half-hour. I just confirmed this with the ABC web site. Hopefully, this means that we'll see lots of pro exhibitions tonight. Who was tonight's guest singer again? Some teen idol, right?
mtlchickie
Jan 13, 2006 @ 1:52 pm
Who was tonight's guest singer again? Some teen idol, right?
Jesse McCartney, who was on
Summerland and has that song "Beautiful Soul."[I]
But thanks for the heads up for being an hour. Working tonight so I can set the DVR accordingly.
Dandesun
Jan 13, 2006 @ 1:58 pm
The music is not as bad as it might seem. A true Ballroom, Smooth, Latin, or Rhythm dancer could dance to a METRONOME and make it look in character of the dance.
I don't doubt this. I've seen performances to many different kinds of music. I've seen the Rumba performed to bongos, to an a capella rendition of the National Anthem and to 'To Sir With Love' and it was the dancers who had my attention rather than the music choice. But I think the difference is that, in those cases, you had two performers who knew exactly what they were doing and didn't let the music overpower their own performance. As a competeing couple, you wouldn't select music that can overpower you anyway.
I found 'Neutron Dance' to be distracting in and of itself. I think making it a song for the Quickstep was a bad choice because I think the song and the dance clash. That's my POV. I could have accepted it as a cha-cha, I think, even if it may have been a bit too fast. It's just my take on it. It really distracted me from a dance that was actually pretty good.
I think Drew's biggest advantage is his ability to move on a beat. It always amazes me how many people can't do that.
Word. We used to have block parties in our neighborhood when I was a kid and my Dad, who loved to dance, would always get the kids together (boys and girls, from kindergarten to jr high) and teach us all how to find the beat and move to it. It was usually as simple as finding the bass line and walking in time to it but he always did it and the kids, particularly the boys, always responded to it. They really liked my Dad anyway since he played and coached sports, drank beer and played guitar and was a lot of fun. I guess they figured if my Dad could dance and have fun and not be a sissy then they could too.
And God knows, boys who can dance generally get attention from the girls.
Insomniac
Jan 13, 2006 @ 2:00 pm
Anybody know who chooses the music? I'm thinking it might be like AI. The contestants are given a slate of songs from which to choose. I might be thinking wrong. However, I'd be surprised if the producers assigned songs to each couple.
TVjunky
Jan 13, 2006 @ 2:01 pm
I called once for Tia on my cell and got a message that I had reached my limit. Did anyone else have a similar experience?
My friends and I tried to vote on our cells last night and we all had the same problem. It's very frustrating: how could we possibly have reached our calling limit at the first attempt!?!
calli
Jan 13, 2006 @ 2:16 pm
So glad to read that ABC got really good ratings last night. I thought the show was great. Any production glitches from last week seem to have been worked out (although it sounds as if the voting needs to be finetuned). This show was crackling with excitement from the very first second. I liked seeing camera shots of some of the individual musicians. The audience also looked terrific. It adds such a sense of occasion when the audience is all glammed up.
One of the really nice things about S2, as many others have commented, is how much more the pros are contributing -- both in speaking and sharing their personalities and in more pro performances. It is really enriching the whole experience tremendously.
I also really like how the producers are handling the backstage part this season. During S1, it was many times tense and awkward as the scores were being discussed. Now it's lighthearted and entertaining as the contestants seem mostly relaxed and kidding around with each other and the camera. I think George Hamilton may have a lot to do with that. He seems to be setting the tone backstage.
I noticed that they did that ranking thing for the top, middle and bottom thirds this week at the end of the show. I don't remember them doing that last week. I almost hope they just needed to fill some time and will not be repeating that. It kind of serves to reinforce and cement the judges opinions. And since the audience vote is supposed to count equally in determining the result anyway, I think it gives the judges' ranking too much time and emphasis.
I think what my real objection to the ranking in thirds, though, may be hating to see the contestants getting their feelings hurt by getting herded into the mediocre middle or the bottom third. They already got their scores earlier. It just seems like overkill. Maybe it's just me, though. And maybe the contestants don't really mind. But during Results Night, it can be agonizing sometimes watching their faces as the elimination is announced. Many of their expressions indicate that they care a lot and that all of this does matter.
I add my enthusiastic thanks to SleepDeprived for that excellent eyewitness account. And thanks also to the posters from the dance world. All the insights and observations are so welcome and interesting to read.
WinkyDink
Jan 13, 2006 @ 2:28 pm
I'm hoping for the Finale already! Drew vs. Jerry! YUMMY!
FormerOlympian
Jan 13, 2006 @ 2:56 pm
There are some interesting and perplexing factoids (at least to me) in the overnights for last night's programming. ABC finished third for the night and DWtS finished second in households behind a repeat of CSI. DWtS tied for fifth in viewers 18-49, trailing in order, ER, My Name is Earl, CSI, The Office and tying with The Four Kings. The viewership for DWtS is skewing older than I thought.
MsDeacon
Jan 13, 2006 @ 2:56 pm
I don't think they get a choice of songs. I remember Alec saying the music he got for one of their dances wasn't really "rumba" music or the right music for the dance they were doing, so he did more of a combination of dance styles.
Cheryl does excellent choreo for this competition. Her choreography makes it seem as if she and Drew are carrying equal weight in the dance, it has a lot of nice variety and transition moves, good timing and covers a lot of floor, not just up and down the center or transcribing the same narrow space.
Why are the women getting all the sultry, dreamy dances and none of the quick, perky, peppy dances? The guys get cha cha, quickstep and jive, the women get waltz, rumba and tango? It seems to favor posing women and energetic men. I want to see Drew waltz and Stacey jive.
BoardAddict
Jan 13, 2006 @ 3:01 pm
I also really hand it to Tia, because you can tell she is very self conscious (probably because of the baby weight being such a contrast to the hot persona in Wayne's World that everyone knows her for) and she is trying really hard.
I think this statement, plus several posters' comments about Tia's lack of self-confidence, is the key to understanding why she's not getting a ton of support either from the call-ins or the live audience. Shallow beings that we Americans are, we want the reality to fit the image we have of our celluloid heroes/heroines. Plus, people in general are not comfortable watching someone who is not comfortable with herself. One last point on Tia, whom I really like btw, is she doesn't have that memorability factor. She's so sweet, but she kind of blends in.
I believe it will be Tia or Tatum (also unrelatable plus The Slap) that will go. Of course the Master Pissant should go, but he adds something to the show. People love to watch train wrecks and drama. He provides that. Plus he improved (har-de-har) this week.
I didn't realize that Master P. had a shoe line. That explains a lot. Did you hear the comment the Host made? Something to the effect of "Perhaps if you were selling dance shoes, you'd wear them?"
The view that he's being paid to be an asshole/villain doesn't work with the comment the poster who saw it live provided about how he treated Ashley when the cameras were not even on him. I'm definitely in the FREE Ashley versus SAVE Ashley camp.
Re voting/grouping in thirds:
It kind of serves to reinforce and cement the judges opinions. And since the audience vote is supposed to count equally in determining the result anyway, I think it gives the judges' ranking too much time and emphasis.
You got all that right. That's are attempting to manipulate the vote in a sneaky, subtle (but not too subtle for us!) way. Protect who they like. Get the bad ones off first.
Re the smiling duing a sexy dance like the rumba (cannot find the post to quote). Yes, I remember that from last season. It was Trista they busted for smiling. Of course her smile was irritating so it was warranted.
I'm new to this forum so hello everybody. Have enjoyed reading the last 50 pages or so! LOL at many.
bananagirl
Jan 13, 2006 @ 3:09 pm
I had never heard of Master P before watching this show. Unfortunately, I missed his initial wooden-post dance from last week. Watching him last night, I was perplexed as to why he was doing the show at all. It made some marginal sense when I found out he was subbing for his son.
However, despite his lack of effort in some places (and his rude treatment of Ashley's gift of the shoes), I feel semi-compelled to defend his shout=outs to the hurricane victims. He is from New Orleans, and has been actively involved in the clean-up efforts (including donating several million dollars to the hurricane relief efforts). The man is a multi-millionaire (who knew?!) and has done some good things in the past with his charitable donations. In many ways, I think he's horrified to be on a show with so many washed-up losers and has-beens (except for the god of football Jerry Rice).
That being said, holy crap man, put in some effort! I heartily agree with those who have said that Ashly's sweet girl approach is NOT the right tactic to use with this man. He needs someone who will really stand up to him. HOpefully, tonight will be the last time he's on the show (so sad for Ashly - what a delightful girl and a lovely dancer).
Hisurfer
Jan 13, 2006 @ 3:09 pm
This is for all my peeps ...
Tatum ... had a messed up life and it's all mostly her dad's fault,(he didn't even go to the oscars with her
My daddy didn't go to the Oscars with me, either.
Thanks to whoever [pages and pages back] who gave us the Ms Alli link on MSNBC!
The judges irk. I didn't watch last season, but did catch So You Think You Can Dance. And while that show had weaknesses, for the most part I liked the judges [and I never thought FOX would do anything I liked]. They gave concrete advice. This trio seem a bit useless.
I don't have clear favorites yet - any of them outside of Master P could win me over.
dreamist
Jan 13, 2006 @ 3:16 pm
98 Degrees was never a dancing boy band, I know they tried to spice things up in their last album, but I don't think they did the heavy dancing like NSYNC or BSB.
You're right. My daughter and I attended two 98 Degree concerts, and they were a low glitz, straightforward vocal group.
legaleagle44
Jan 13, 2006 @ 3:24 pm
Why are the women getting all the sultry, dreamy dances and none of the quick, perky, peppy dances? The guys get cha cha, quickstep and jive, the women get waltz, rumba and tango? It seems to favor posing women and energetic men. I want to see Drew waltz and Stacey jive.
That will change starting next week, when the dances start mixing it up with the Tango and the Jive. Some of the men will do one, and some will do the other; likewise with the women.
I do agree with you, though, that it makes for a more enjoyable competition to mix it up from the beginning, the way the Dutch version of DWTS did. It also lays to rest (at least in my mind) the old controversy over whether the men or the women have it harder. When you watch a male celebrity and a female celebrity doing the same dance (Quickstep, for example), it clearly demonstrates that the man has the harder job because he not only has to know his own part, but he has to lead his partner through hers as well--and leading (especially in the Smooth/Standard dances) requires a lot of upper-body movement and strength, and perfect posture at all times--it's quite exhausting, really!
But even using last night's show as an example demonstrates this point, in my opinion. One of the things I was watching for in the Quickstep was how well the male celebs were able to lead their partners around the dance floor. Drew, Jerry, and George were all fantastic, and much better than one usually sees from beginners--I saw almost no back-leading from their professional partners. Ashly, on the other hand, was not only constantly reminding Master Pathetic of what he needed to do--she was back-leading him through it the whole way, and you could see that she was practically dragging him around the dance floor. No wonder the poor girl is in tears so often--how would YOU like to have to drag that lump around the floor constantly, only to be further humiliated by him every second that you weren't dancing? The poor woman is simply worn out. For the love of all that's holy, people--FREE ASHLY!
DuchessKitty
Jan 13, 2006 @ 3:27 pm
Please say they are NOT going to Jive to Barry Manilow next week.
I thought Barry was performing on February 3 not next week. And this Fanilow doesn’t mind that you don’t like him. Different strokes…
Several years with 98 Degrees. Over a year on Rent. Married to a dancer/choreographer. Now why would you confuse him with a "professional" dancer?
I saw 98 Degrees in concert a few times (There! I admit it. And I don’t even have an excuse of going with a daughter like
dreamiest) and the amount and type of dancing that they did was nothing compared to ballroom. They were definitely not a dancing boy band as others have noted. And the stuff he does/did in Rent was not dancing. At all. Joey had more dancing experience IMO and I don’t remember him getting any flack about it.
I’ve always felt bad for Tatum, but that doesn’t mean that I think she didn’t deserve the score she got last night. I’d like her to stick around because I think she has potential. As a few of you said, she danced the Rhumba really well in practice so I don’t know what happened last night.
bsur
Jan 13, 2006 @ 3:29 pm
When my wife saw Stacy's Rhumba last night her jaw dropped! It was the first time that I have seen her react quite like that to a female's performance.
To paraphrase an old saying, I may not know much about dancing, but I know what I like. There was something about Stacy's dance that actually brought tears to my eyes. I don't know what it was - I liked the story they told, and I love her figure - but I'm sure more knowledgable people would see flaws in the performance.
It just really grabbed me.
And -
Tatum O'Neal is a big ol' baby. That is all.
FormerOlympian
Jan 13, 2006 @ 3:31 pm
The poor woman is simply worn out. For the love of all that's holy, people--FREE ASHLY!
I will man up and volunteer to take in and restore Ashly back to health. She can sit poolside and drink little umbrella drinks while I swim rehab laps. And at night, she can don that pretty red dress she wore in week one and we'll dance all night at an underground blues club known to only a handful of people (as soon as my leg heals).
And Ash...if you're lurking, I have a cabin outside of Taos...just a short hop from Utah. Mi casa and all that.
BeingNicer
Jan 13, 2006 @ 3:43 pm
FormerOlympian , do we need to get you a handicapped sticker for the passenger side of your bed?
Maybe Ashly can help you rehab so you can be on DWTS next show.....?
calli
Jan 13, 2006 @ 3:50 pm
There are some interesting and perplexing factoids (at least to me) in the overnights for last night's programming.
Here's a quote I read: Comparatively and including last week's telecast, this was an improvement for ABC over the season to-date Thursday 8-9:30pm block of 10.8 million viewers and 109 percent among adults 18-49. In addition, Dancing With the Stars is now ABC's most watched and highest rated series among adults 18-49 since Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire in 1999-2000.
That first sentence doesn't make complete sense and some other numbers in the same article also don't. They quote ABC as having 4.5/12 among adults 18-49 from 8-9:30 but then say that NBC was first with 4.4/12 among adults 18-49 at 8:00.
el mapache
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:01 pm
I enjoyed George Hamilton's dance. I can't believe I'm saying that, but I did. He has pretty good feet, I liked his footwork. Drew is very good, and has a great attitude. I even liked the song "Neutron Dance". It's funny, I disliked that song back in the 80's in Bev Hills Cop, but it worked for me here. Stacy is fine the mug and good, and I dig Tia too. Please let Tia continue! Lisa needs to deflate her top lip, but she's got great hammers and I like her enthusiasm. My fave, though, is Jerry Rice. GO # 80! Big improvement by Master P, I'll give him that.
I know less than nothing about dancing, but this show is a great escape. The only thing that gets me is I'm afraid somebody's gonna step on someone's dress and trip and fall. There's a real 'on the wire' element at work here, so mad props to the celebs for having the heart to take a chance. I look forward to seeing the pro's dancing together, too.
StKatherine
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:02 pm
The fact that Tia seems self-conscious and isn't a glamazon is making me support and vote for her more. Tatum would have my sympathy vote (sometimes, at least)if she didn't have such a snippy attitude. If Tia had gotten comments from a judge that her legwork was not firm ("spongy", I think he said) she would have probably nodded and taken it as a way to improve, but Tatum bit his head off, and was all defensive about not being a dancer (yeah, like everyone else is one?!) I feel like Tia is more relatable and that makes me want her to stay around. Trying to get back to pre-baby shape I can identify with; having to accept an Oscar without my Daddy with me, not so much.
Mr. 888
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:05 pm
Sounds hackneyed, but I really want Jerry Rice to go all the way (and most of the sports channels too). Unlike Holyfield, Rice is a football legend (much more a celebrity than, say, Drew Lachey) and has got the charm and the footwork to make the finals more watchable.
FormerOlympian
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:07 pm
That first sentence doesn't make complete sense and some other numbers in the same article also don't.
I agree. Sometimes deciphering the Nielsons is as difficult as trying to understand the appeal of Courtney Love. I'm just glad the show is a hit.
FormerOlympian, do we need to get you a handicapped sticker for the passenger side of your bed? Maybe Ashly can help you rehab so you can be on DWTS next show.....?
I'd prefer a passenger on the passenger side of my bed. And you know, it might be time for me to make a call to my agent and have her make an inquiry about the show. I'm sure we could work in some gratuitous poolside Speedo footage.
barkley
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:20 pm
Maybe you could get Ashly in the pool to "practice lifts".
I think I figured out why Trista's smiling seemed inappropriate and Stacy's didn't bother me (besides the obvious Trista hate). Stacy was smiling AT Tony, not at the cameras. Her smile seemed like a genuine extension of the mood of the dancing and didn't seem forced. It wasn't that "cheerleader" smile.
shortpplfedup
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:28 pm
The judges irk. I didn't watch last season, but did catch So You Think You Can Dance. And while that show had weaknesses, for the most part I liked the judges [and I never thought FOX would do anything I liked]. They gave concrete advice. This trio seem a bit useless.
In all fairness, everytime they try to give critique, they are shut up by the booing audience and hustled along by Tom Bergeron. He cut off each judge mid-sentence at least once last night.
BeingNicer
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:32 pm
I'm sure we could work in some gratuitous poolside Speedo footage.
Oh my gosh, may I start voting now?
dreamist
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:42 pm
I'd prefer a passenger on the passenger side of my bed. And you know, it might be time for me to make a call to my agent and have her make an inquiry about the show. I'm sure we could work in some gratuitous poolside Speedo footage.
FormerOlympian: Wow, if your doctor/therapist signed off on it, we should totally campaign to get you a slot. AND with a string to Ashly attached.
Edited: I am struggling today with the your/you're thing. Very uncharacteristic of me. Note to self: You ARE going to have to pay attention to your grammar, girl!
Dandesun
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
Last year, the judges seemed to have more of an opportunity to give their criticisms. When the last episode aired and Carrie-Ann was praising Kelly saying 'was this the same person I said was... blah blah blah' and Kelly pointed out that it helped, I liked that.
This time the judges are cut off very quickly when they start in with the negatives and I don't know that it helps in the long run. Also, some of the stuff is a little obtuse. Although Len is coming right out and telling P to wear the right shoes and is constantly being ignored. So, in that regard, it seems to be lose/lose for the judges' comments.
ClarionGrad
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:46 pm
FormerOlympian, you would do that for us? Be our own personal mole, just to get the behind-the-scenes scoop and snark? I bet you would even make the sacrifice and offer to pair with Ashly. Truly, you are a champion among men. LOL.
Hisurfer
Jan 13, 2006 @ 4:53 pm
I really want Jerry Rice to go all the way.
So do I,
MR. 888. So do I. Although Jonathan will do.
sidwich
Jan 13, 2006 @ 5:08 pm
I think all of the ladies struggled with the Rhumba, although Staci came the closest. I still think the Rhumba is too advanced a dance for beginners of such limited experience, and I think none of the ladies had the control or strength to tackle the Rhumba yet. Most looked like they were still struggling to balance in the shoes. Rhumba is hands-down my favorite dance, but the reason I like it is that it's so slow, it gives you the freedom to fill out and enjoy the full range of movement. However, in order to do that, you have to have the control of the movement, the balance, the control of the hip weight (not just the swing of the hips), the leg line, to really be successful with it.
I enjoyed George, but his piece really did lack much quickstep content. Part of why I liked Drew's piece and Cheryl so far generally, is she really makes him do the dance. As much as I'm sure she's choreographing somewhat around his limitations, she's not disguising a bunch of show choreography as quickstep or cha-cha, what have you.
If Jerry Rice continues improving at the pace he is, he is going to be awesome very soon. The improvement from last week to this was really impressive, and he had by far the best topline of all the men last night. Personally, I thought his piece was quite comparable to Drew's.
Ashly and P were a disaster in the making for Quickstep. Even if the stars aligned otherwise, the sheer height differential was going to make it tough. I don't regard P's non-traditional dance attire as quite the crime against humanity others do though, perhaps because I'm not one for traditional dance kit myself.
kath20
Jan 13, 2006 @ 5:09 pm
I'm wondering how wise it was for Tatum O'Neal to have responded as she did to Bruno's compliment about her dance when scoring her during last week's show. Bruno mentioned something about how moved he had been by the chemistry between Tatum and Nick and Tatum said that she had been using her acting skills.
I think this may have resulted in the other female contestants being attentive to her response and in turn incorporating more dramatic facial expressions in their dances. In a sense coopting her trump card. And diluting it.
Because now, if there are genuine sparks with her partner, they won't seem spontaneous and genuine but instead the whole effect will be dampened by her claim of "acting." I mean I think it's good she uses her dramatic skills but I think it would have been more effective if she had keep the information to herself.
Miss Alli
Jan 13, 2006 @ 5:09 pm
Sorry to rain on the parade, but with just the one thread, we're really too busy in here for the extended "my fantasy of being rehabbed by Ashly" stuff. It's not wrong of you to want to play around together, but it's just too busy. Stick to the show, please. Thanks.
TimeandTide
Jan 13, 2006 @ 5:18 pm
I gave P a pass after the last ep. and defended his initial awfulness thinking he'd kick it into gear, if only to not look like a complete jackass on the second ep. But between the refusal to wear dance shoes (if he's worried about his street "cred," he might have considered not joining a ballroom dancing competition); his knocking the shoes away from his partner (vile behavior, that); and his horrid dancing, I'm going to climb on the P hate train with the rest of you.
Here's hoping P, Tatum and Tia exit the show soon...and hopefully in that order.
Tango Lady
Jan 13, 2006 @ 5:36 pm
I thought that Stacy had superb technique for the length of time that she has been dancing. She was the only lady to begin to grasp that the hip action comes from the feet, not from just gyrating your middle. Her feet were really top-notch. I liked the fact that she had so many basic syllabus figures in her routine, too.
One thing that's interesting is that she gets right some of the things that ballerinas consistently get wrong in ballroom. She can bend and straighten her knees on each step, she can raise one hip higher than the other when she needs to, and she seems to actually be following. I didn't watch her for too much turnout in the waltz last week (a common ballerina problem in standard/smooth; it doesn't apply to latin), but will try to spot that issue next week.
Someone complained about her not using the whole floor - rhumba is a "spot dance." It's supposed to stay more or less in one place.
Nobody had actual good footwork in the quickstep, in my opinion. Heel leads in the wrong places abounded, and the judges didn't say a word.
Tango Lady
Jan 13, 2006 @ 5:45 pm
Oh, and I haven't seen mentioned here yet that the results show tonight has been expanded to a full hour.
DebraAnne
Jan 13, 2006 @ 5:50 pm
Someone complained about her not using the whole floor - rhumba is a "spot dance." It's supposed to stay more or less in one place.
That was me. Be that as it may, I still don't see her
dancing. She just moves from pose to pose, looking beautiful and graceful while doing it, but still. It could change my opinion if I could see her two-step or cha cha cha. I would love to see the ladies try something a little faster.
BeingNicer
Jan 13, 2006 @ 6:10 pm
Well, hot damn, I turned on ABC while I was eating lunch and saw an ad for tonight's DWtS . ABC was promoting it as an hour-long episode, saying that there was just too much dancing and exciting surprises to fit into a half-hour.
Oh, and I haven't seen mentioned here yet that the results show tonight has been expanded to a full hour.
It was mentioned earlier today by
BrainyBlonde.
scootman
Jan 13, 2006 @ 6:18 pm
I know little about dancing, but Tony does and he put together a sequence that earned a 29, so he gave the judges what they were looking for.
I will say that there's a danger Tony could fall in love with Stacy's legs, and I don't mean that in a dirty way. If he tries to make it all leg extensions and smiles in a faster dance, I would think they'll earn the wrath of the judges. But the Rhumba is a chance to bring some heat and show off her killer bod, and heck, it worked.
I gave three votes to Stacy and three to Jerry because I thought they were the best male (sorry, Drew fans) and female dancers. I was trying to be cold and calculating, and then Tia got that sorry reaction at the end of the show and I voted for her three times because I remember how self conscious my wife was right after she had our child.
Damn, this show is turning me all fruity and spongy.
totell
Jan 13, 2006 @ 7:06 pm
I just do not understand all the Tia-hate. Anyway, I wanted to ask anyone here who attended the show last night if they could shed any light on the disregard for Tia/Maks?
I've been wondering about the same thing. Looking at that quote, along with recalling Tia's I-don't-deserve-those-scores comments, Max's mostly solemn expressions after their performance, and adding this:
My friends and I tried to vote on our cells last night and we all had the same problem. It's very frustrating: how could we possibly have reached our calling limit at the first attempt!?!
I've definitely been having some of those "something's fishy" thoughts since last night's show.
While I can't say I'm getting a, "the fix is in,"
vibe about what might happen tonight, I'm not liking how things are looking when it comes to Tia and Max making it to the next round. Maybe I've just been watching AI for too long.
In any case I
really hope I'm wrong about their chances for survival tonight.
Tango Lady
Jan 13, 2006 @ 7:20 pm
Oh, and I haven't seen mentioned here yet that the results show tonight has been expanded to a full hour.
It was mentioned earlier today by BrainyBlonde.
Sorry I missed that - this is one looooong thread.
Thinking some more about why I didn't see Stacy's routine as a series of poses, I remember something Carrie Ann mentioned in the judging - when she gets to a line, she doesn't just stand there. She keeps moving into it. That makes a big difference. I think it's part of why Giselle looked so brittle in contrast.
BeingNicer
Jan 13, 2006 @ 7:35 pm
Well, in my area they are showing the Timberwolves vs the Nuggets and won't be showing DWTS until 11:35. I'll show them, I am going into the family room and watch it on cable, so ha ha. I am not going to watch basketball tonight unless Kevin Garnett puts on dancing shoes.
Thank you for letting me vent ! Go Drew ! Go Jerry! Go away Master Prick !
Jezebel In Hel
Jan 13, 2006 @ 7:58 pm
He's actually from the Calliope Projects (now called BW Cooper), a housing project that still had people living there before Katrina. And he does care very, very much about the city and it's people. I don't think that he keeps bringing up the hurricane because he wants sympathy and votes - I firmly believe that he's doing it because he wants to give it a national audience and remind people that New Orleans is still struggling and that we still need the support and aid of the rest of the country. He even went so far as to distance himself from Kanye West's Bush remarks because he thought that they were counter-productive. He said, "I think that if Kanye West [felt] like that, he needed to wait cause I got people in my community dying right now. I got kids lost, I got parents lost, I got people got nowhere to go back to right now, so we need the government. We gon’ need the president." He loves the city and its people very much and I think saw DwtS as a way to get the word out to keep supporting New Orleans in any way possible.
Yes, he should be voted off, but I think that he went into this just wanting to raise awareness for Katrina victims, not to become a ballroom dancing sensation. Yes, the shoe-kicking was disgusting, but it seemed king of stagey to me. It's not his fault if the producers of the show want to portray him as a lazy jerk. I hope if he makes it through this week he starts to try harder, but I think that his heart was in the right place going into the show.
I respect that he cares deeply about New Orleans and that he has has cause that he's passionate about blah, blah, blah, but there is no excuse for anyone in his family to have been in the Super Dome. The man is worth hundreds of millions of dollars (or at least was a few years ago). He ought to donate all the proceeds from his shoes that he keeps pimpin' to the cause.
I do think it was a little snippy how the host (sorry, can't remember her name) cut him off every time he mentioned Katrina.
To my mind, Master P is far and away the most famous person on the show. I don't know about the shows particular demographic but he is huge in the rap/hip hop world.
I've only lived in America for a few years so I never got to watch Jerry Rice when he was actually playing football, but I am in love. He is so handsome and personable. I also think if he stays for another three or four weeks he will unquestionably the best. Both Stacy and Drew have a background in dance; to what is extent is arguable but they've definitely done it before. To my knowledge Jerry hasn't. Oh, and it doesn't hurt that his partner is from Russia, just like Moi. Jerry Forever!
snooky
Jan 13, 2006 @ 8:12 pm
I understand why the judges want him in dance shoes (used to dance; attire is flexible but you need the right shoes) but I think the badgering and haranguing will just make him more resistant. Appeal to ego, dudes.
He's a grown man and shouldn't need to be coddled. That's what I hate about having him on the show--it's like he's so special, or dangerous, they have to handle him with kid gloves.
I voted online for Tia, and on the phone for Drew and Giselle.
If I was Len, I'd give him zeroes until he was either dressed properly or gone.
Now THAT'S an excellent idea! I really wish they'd do that. Talk about sending a message to the peeps bach in the 'hood--you want to get respect? You better
give respect, Master Pathetic!
George Hamilton, however, got all my votes, just for his shout out to his Beverly Hills peeps. He may not be able to move, but as long as he continues to bring the snark, I'll vote for him.
George's snark was
classic!! You go with yo bad self, Georgie!! I agree with a poster upthread--he must figure he's too old of a geezer for MPeeee to go after for his remarks!
ETA: Thank goodness Master Pissy isn't on the celebrity skating show since he refuses to wear the proper footwear.
BWAH!!! Good one!!
I'll be in the corner over here loving Anna's 20's dress! Don't care, cuz it was cool and fun.
I liked it, too. Cuuuute!!!
ziglettospal
Jan 13, 2006 @ 8:55 pm
Wow, what a show.
George rocked. The man has no knees, no ribs, but Edyta got him to do the most entertaining number of the night. I want him to stay around for comic relief. I loved his shoutout to his homies in Beverly Hills and Palm Springs.
Lisa's legs we were really weird, sort of wobbly and bent and splayed. And Louis looked like he was over-leading her, kind of throwing her around. But I loved seeing him pole dance, and like their "Best Buddies Always" vibe. The lips, especially the upper one, make me insane. I feel like I'm watching 3D video.
Tia is wonderful, but she needs to stop picking on herself. Everyone will think those bad things about her anyway without her having to vocalize them. I liked her rumba a lot, it was mature and sexy without being tarty, and her dress and hair were tops.
Unlike Anna's dress, which was a travesty. The top looked like Handi-Wipes and the bottom looked like strips of crepe paper. The dancing, though, with Mr. Rice (he's way too cool and wonderful to be just "Jerry" to me now), worked quite well. This guy has the most amazing attitude and work ethic. If his popularity takes him all the way and he wins, I'll be happy, even though he's not the best actual dancer.
I liked Cheryl's choreography for Drew so much that I want to cop some of those moves for my own Quickstep. Drew has that beginner "I am afraid to get too close to my partner and get in her way" kind of butt-back, shoulders-forward posture, but his footwork and use of his legs and timing were right on target. He's actually my hope to win the whole thing, because I'd like to see a guy win and he's the best in my opinion. He'll get better over time, I'm sure.
As for the crazies...please, if there is any justice in this world, let Master P leave now. The Quickstep wasn't bad enough to be the kind of train wreck I was hoping for, and his attitude is just disgusting. He would find dancing a LOT easier if he wore the right shoes -- rubber soled shoes are impossibly difficult to dance in. There's split suede on the bottoms of dance shoes (and bowling shoes) for the same reason...so you can get a little slide, without sacrificing grip when you need it.
Well, I guess the results have happened on the east coast by now....
Erykakane
Jan 13, 2006 @ 9:00 pm
“How emotionally invested ARE YOU?” Bye Tatum, I'll miss you!
I love the expanded results show. There isn’t crap on TV on Friday nights so why the hell not. Great to see a recap of all the dances without the useless filler. The only problem is that now I have no incentive to watch the Thursday show. I can just wait until Friday and watch the everybody dance in like 30 minutes.
I still concur with my estimate from the night before that Stacy’s rumba was awesome. I didn’t vote for her, but I loved the dance
Why is it that when the pros perform they get appropriate music?
Who da hell is Jesse McCrackney and why is he on my screen. Who next? Ashley Simpson? Bring back the old wheezing guy from last week.
YAY TIA!!!!
OH SHYT Did you hear the groans. You can tell Tom is pissed off.
Percy< You’ze a JIVE turkey!
Oh God Vali does american idol start next week? I dont think I can handle BOTH of the results shows. I'll have to take something!
mrsdalgleish
Jan 13, 2006 @ 9:00 pm
I really like this results show format. You get to see the pros dancing, you get a recap of the full dances from last night (without having to use 2 hours of your life), and the results happen relatively quickly.
As for Master P staying? It's got to be an Ashley fanbase, right? I mean, I know the Train Wreck crew is dialing in, but some of it has to be love for the cutie pie. Actually, if we really loved her, we'd release her from the misery.
neciamorris
Jan 13, 2006 @ 9:01 pm
No!!!!!!!! Not another week of watching Master P do whatever the hell he's doing. He's not even trying. I don't mind that Tatum is going home, but Master Pissy better be next.
Vali
Jan 13, 2006 @ 9:02 pm
Well, this WTF feeling is certainly getting me prepared for the American Idol voting trainwreck starting up again next week.
Super C
Jan 13, 2006 @ 9:04 pm
What in the hell is going on here? Why wasn't P shuffling his tired ass off the show?