Good god. How far up ABC's asses is Bruno? He was so easy on Kelly and so harsh on Peterman.

Does Kelly really believe she deserved that perfect score? It wasn't because it was a perfect performance it was just becaused they compared her last one to how shitty she started out.

I voted for Peterman on my home phone five times but it won't let me also vote on my cell phone. Says my household has filled my quota for calls. Is anyone else having this problem?

Between 2 cell phones and 1 landline I've been able to get 1 vote through. John's going to have to do this one without my vote, because I cannot get a call through. The show was great fun. I've really missed it.

I thought J&C's Waltz was better than K&A's Quickstep, but I preferred K&A on the other 2 dances so I voted for them.

Best performance: Jonathan & Anna; would've voted for them had I had the option. :D

I tried Kelly's line for over an hour and I got through on the land line 5 times, but nothing on the cell.

Could JOH have been a bigger baby tonight? He's dancing to "You light Up My Life" and barely cracking a smile or making eye contact. Also, the whole "no one deserved a 30" was sour grapes of the sourest variety.

If her line weren't consistently busy the entire time, I would have voted til' my fingers bled for Kelly, if purely for the fact that JOH is such an unbelievable crybaby tittysucker. Geez, man, show some humility and graciousness! I'll bet the little 8-year-old ballroom dancers they featured display more dignity whenever they don't place first in their kiddie competitions than him.

I don't know which is worse... JOH's intolerable mugging or his attitude.

They were both great. But I just like it for the "fun" not the competition.

Ohhh, the waltz. Yes, indeed J&C do light up my life. That was just crazy beautiful.

Lisa Canning is such a moron it's not even funny. I guess that means her next job is elected public official. I would adore ABC 4-ever if they made John & Kelly the hosts of this show.

JOH was worse than his most rabid fans in the mainstream press tonight. He was so bitter and ugly in his comments. I've seen Randy Moss be more gracious.

He should have told the judges to take back his own 30 from tonight.

What an ungreatful ass.

That's okay. They stole one of my votes for him. I got through for K&A three times. The fourth time I got through, using the same number and redial, it said I'd voted for JOH! I smell a rat.

All 6 of my votes got through just fine. I thought the limit was 5 though?

I tried to vote for Kelly and Alec, but could not get through. Their freestyle dance wasn't their best, but it was still fun, and I thought their quickstep was fantastic! I did not understand Glen's harsh criticism at all. He actually sounded like he was angry with Kelly. J&C's waltz was very nice, but also very simple I thought, and their rhumba was just Charlotte posing around John while he made weird facial expressions.

Don't forget you can still vote online until 1:15 EST.

Okay, using the Joey Tribianni method, the suxy have done "it" because there was something off, but there was something off with everything tonight so I might be imagining things.

the kids were fantastic and it was great to see the pros do their stuff. Jonathan and Anna took my breath away and Louis and Ashly were so cute and spunky.

I knew Len was going to have a cow over the QS because of how he panned Joey and Ashly's foxtrot. The man doesn't like the "rules" broken.

I tried to vote for Kelly and Alec on my cell but couldn't get through. Kelly and Alec's free style was AMAZING during the finale, there was no way they could have improved it! I was a little disapointed, but I agree JOH was being a baby about losing.

Why has no one mentioned how horrible Charlotte's free style outfit was? I couldn't concentrate on the dancing!

One massive thing bothered me from John and Charlotte's freestyle. Anyone notice their first move across the floor? Little side steps with lots of hip action. It's exactly what Kelly and Alec did in their last freestyle. I may be looking way into this, but it was like they were mocking them. Well, maybe not them, but the dancing.

Can we vote for Jonathan and Anna instead? We have the suxy and now we have the pretty. They were so nice to watch.

barkley get over your JOH hate, bitter my ass.

Why, oh why, isn't Anna one of the professional dancers on this show? That woman is absolutely amazing and such a pleasure to watch.

I got my votes in for Kelly and Alec. I loved their Cha-Cha and was pleasantly surprised by how well they did with the Quickstep. Their Freestyle didn't really push the envelope as much as I would have liked, but it was still good.

Charlotte and John's Waltz was really lovely and I applaud them for it. However, their Rhumba and Freestyle left me cold. The bottom line is that I just don't enjoy watching them dance as much as I do Kelly and Alex. It's all a matter of personal preference and K&A are definitely mine. I almost got choked up when they ended their Freestyle and hugged tonight because I knew that it would probably be the last time I'll ever get to see them dance together.

I really, really don't want to dislike JOH, but he really worked my nerves with his interview clips tonight. I appreciate that he feels he got gypped the first time around and I'm sorry that he was disappointed. But he needs to stop casting aspersions against Kelly and Alec. "No one deserved a 30." "I know that we should have won the first time." Please, John, whatever happens with this dance-off just accept it and move on. I am so tired of all this "controversy."

ETA: Carrie and Len both seemed incredibly cranky tonight. I guess that they were defensive because of the backlash over the 10s they gave K&A in the finale, but their attitudes towards both couples at various points during the broadcast came across as borderline unprofessional to me. Thank goodness for Bruno. He really amuses me and his criticisms don't seem to have that nasty edge that the others do.

Watching Jonathan and Anna spoiled me for watching anyone else on this show. They were just breathtakingly beautiful together. Wow!

I see Kelly and Alec got around the problem of Kelly's lack of ability in the smooth style by having her spend huge hunks of the quick step standing there and posing rather than actually, you know, dancing. Not much quick and absolutely no stepping for much of it. I wonder if those who lamented the amount of time John spent not dancing in his first freestyle with Charlotte saw that Kelly and Alec used the same trick tonight, for an even larger chunk of the dance.

While JOH can be a bit of a blowhard, I found find Kelly's whining about how she couldn't even enjoy her victory due to all the negative backlash to be pretty self serving. Nobody likes an ungracious winner, either, Kelly. As for her bragging that their freestyle was clearly the best dance of the entire competition and therefore deserved perfect scores, well, nice try, but not so much. Every bit as self serving as JOH's statement that no one deserved perfect scores in the original competition. Neither one understood the reasoning behind those scores, or at least, the reasoning that the judges gave after the fact.

Amen! I didn't care for her rhumba outfit either. Both couples had some slip-ups, I believe due to their nerves. I loved Kelly's cha-cha and enjoyed John's waltz, though overall I preferred the dancing of Kelly & Alec over John & Charlotte. I could be biased because of Alec's suxiness and John's bitterness. I thought Len was overly effusive this evening for John and was borderline maniaical with his critique of Kelly's quickstep. I chuckled when Len commented that John did well to take on his role of a soap opera type man in the rhumba and Bruno could clearly be heard in the background, saying "that's because he's an actor!" He must be sick of the mugging, too!

The professional exhibitions were great fun to watch, and the children were adorable, even though it appeared as though their interviews were pretty staged, or directed.

I have no idea how the audience will vote. My vote is for Kelly & Alec. If John wins, what happens next? A dance-off for the dance-off for a best 2 outa 3? Shame the original standings are so scrutinized.

I remember reading that Anna was supposed to be on the show, but something came up at the last minute.

She and Jonathan danced so beautifully. I heart them. Shoot, now I've gone and developed a crush on Jonathan.

I think she was supposed to be but her celebrity dropped out at the last minute. She was amazing though and I hope she comes back for the next season.

I've heard through the grapevine that the judges (Carrie Ann was the one I heard about) were locked into 5 year contracts, but I haven't heard any of the pros say the same.

One of the beauties of TWoP is that I don't have to get over anything regarding my feelings of someone on a TV show. John was a bitter, bitter, sour-grapes, sore loserman who exhibited some of the worst sportsmanship I've seen.

But unfortunately, it was the absolute truth. Kelly didn't even get a chance to enjoy the victory before members of message boards, TVGuide write-ins, and even JOH himself, were saying/implying that the entire show was fixed.

That's poor sportsmanship, and if I was her, I'd be pretty pissed as well. The girl won fair and square, and when she wins again, I'm almost positive there will be the exact same backlash.

And trust me, she will win again. ;)

ETA: Can I just say that I'm amazed that this show (which when I first saw commercials for, I thought was a rinky-dink ABC reality show) has taken off as much as it has. If tomorrow's ratings are as solid as they were during it's initial run, I'd wager that this is ABC's 'American Idol.'

That's one way to look at it. Another is that he is a smart guy who saw what a tremendous opportunity this show was and figured out how to capitalize on the controversy regarding the finale. So he kept the controversy bubbling with well placed remarks and rode that gravy train all the way to a million dollar payday for both him and Kelly. If it wasn't for JOH keeping it in the forefront of the media, this 'rematch' would've never happened. Seems to me that he has had the last laugh here and will be laughing all the way to the bank. As will Kelly.


Well, there wouldn't have been a controversy had she actually won the thing outright. Anytime one participates in a contest where the judging is subjective, one opens oneself up to the possibility that there will be disagreements as to who was superior. As an 'actress', I presume Kelly has auditioned for roles where she didn't get the part even though she felt she did the best job. Such is life, get over it, Princess. JOH didn't create the controversy, it was already there. He simply capitalized on it which lead to a million dollar payday for Kelly. She should be kissing his feet, she couldn't have bought this kind of publicity and he was a big part of it.


I'm sure she will, because the winner has nothing to do with who danced the best, but who has the most fans willing to call in votes. And Kelly proved the first time that she was the one with the biggest fanbase, just as John said. There are posters in this very thread who said they started voting the minute the lines were open, even before they saw the dances, proving the point that many voters aren't interested in who the better dancer is.

Kelly and Alec are by far the better dancers. Not only do they physically look better, but they have major chemistry with one another. JOH and Charlotte look awkward and have too many forced steps. Nothing between them looks cohesive; it's as if they're dancing 2 different dances and aren't relying on each other's direction as they dance accross the stage.

Well I voted for K&A because I loved them tonight and honestly felt like overall they did better. I'm a Kelly fan, but I hated their second dance, it was just then skipping across the dancefloor with a few steps thrown in. I didn't agree with Len calling it horrible, but he did have a point there.

Was it just me or were the judged divided on whom they liked best with Carrie Ann and Bruno for Kelly and Len for John? It seemed the way to me.

I also noticed that Kelly had alot more confidence this time around which was nice to see. She smiled during the dances and was much more talkative, I figure winning the first time really helped her ego and I'm glad for that because the whole "I'm pretty and shy" used to get on my nerves.

Good God when did Alec get so hot? I honestly didn't see it during the first season but tonight I was in a puddle of drool. The way he would open that shirt up just a little bit would make me pant, lol.

John needs to really really get over himself, his whole whining really bugged me the entire time and I just wanted to smack him.

That being said, John and Charlotte's waltz was flawless and really deserved the "30" if you ask me. I was amazed at how graceful and beautiful it looked and felt like it was the best dance of the series.

Kelly and Alec's first and last dances were great, the first on especially, it just worked for me and wow do they have some hot chemistry together.

I loved the bloopers, especially the K&A ones, so cute with him on her back and when her dress got caught on her mic. I'm such a 12 yr old girl, hehe.

I called at least 30 times and got a busy signal for Kelly each time...is this a good or bad thing? I never voted for American Idol or So You Think You Can Dance, so I'm clueless.

Anyway, tonights show was pretty good. I loved the professional dancers (the second team was AMAZING) and I thought Kelly did a great job tonight!

I loved John's personality during the original series, but he was such an ass here. He seemed like a combination of a sore loser and a complete snob. I hated how...I just hated everytime they had him talk in the pre-taped interviews. Ugh, he is just so smug, makes me sick.

With a show like this, Kelly should've been the famewhore, not him. She seems to be clearly doing this for fun and charity, but he screamed self-centered famewhore to me.

Back to the dancing, I thought Kelly's first two were fantastic! I especially loved her Quick-Step! The third freestyle was badly choreographed so I wasn't crazy about it.

John and Charlotta's first dance was terrible, the second one was better and their third one was too corny. I think their biggest problem is that there is too much "Mr. Personality" and Charlotta's choreography kinda sucks.

Chiming in to agree with barkley. There was definitely that kind of tension between them.



Hey, and what's wrong with dry humping? The lack of it may be explained by the above theory.

Here's hoping the Suxy! come out with a dancing fitness video. There's got to be some way to keep those two dancing together so Alec can "play around," Kelly can have her "daily regimin," and we can get our "Suxy! Fix!"

I want to vote for Ashly and Louis, they were fantastic.


I think Kelly told a bit of a lie in one of her interviews. She mentioned not having danced at all since winning. Not true, she has danced on every talk show she has been on.

Wow, it's funny how divergent opinions can be. I thought Kelly & Alec's quickstep was the best dance of the night. I guess I loved the skipping. It looked so fun and graceful at the same time.

John's sour grapes turned my stomache. Aarrghhh, give it a rest! I actually sent him one of those "you got robbed" emails. I was just being kind. Even though I had liked him and enjoyed his dancing, I had voted for Kelly because I enjoyed hers more. I'm sorry I fed his ego.

I called and voted my 5 times for Kelly. I had to hit redial constantly as I got a busy signal and the "all circuits busy now" recording a lot!

I posted something on another board tonight that clarified this whole controversy for me. I don't think the thing was rigged in that there was some big conspiracy for Kelly to win. I do think it was "rigged" in that the producers picked up a storyline for each star competing and beat them into the ground. This is especially true with both John and Kelly because their storylines were the perfect ying and yang - the suave older competitor who is getting a new lease on life through this dance competition versus the scrappy and sexy younger woman who will just not say die. I think the producers saw the ratings potential in this match up and really played up these "storylines" in order to encourage (not buy or pressure) the audience and judges votes necessary to ensure these two were in the final. Because a final like that = ratings gold.

That takes my back to my original thought on this. The one person who truly got screwed by this show was Joey. Looking back on it he was hindered by two huge things - a not as experienced professional and a not as engaging storyline. If we are looking at who was the most talented and consistent star I would have to say it was Joey but a Joey versus John or a Joey versus Kelly final was just not as appealing so his storyline was downplayed a lot and because of that he got lost in the shuffle - something I am sure ABC was thrilled about because it meant they got their ratings gold match up.

Anyway that is my take on the conspiracy. It was not a blatant vote rigging or judges buying thing but rather it was more like who the producers wanted to showcase in order to garner good ratings. Beyond getting John and Kelly in the final I honestly doubt they cared who won because by getting them in the final they got their ratings enhancing match up.

I'm gonna try and make a positive comment without fueling the hate...

I haven't read a post where someone says they were voting before the dances occurred. I made a comment before the show aired wondering about the voting rules and how it seemed that people would be able to vote before the dance performances. Anyways, if anyone ever did that, I think one reason would be that it's a form of protest against a very bad idea: the dance off. It's completely unfair to the winner. When judges are involved, not everyone will agree on the winner but, rules are rules. Did the Olympics subject Oksana Bioul(sp?) to a skate off with Nancy Kerrigan?

Anyway, loved the show, but sadly, I still had this bad taste in my mouth because this whole thing was a bad idea. I voted for Kelly/Alec for several reasons: I enjoyed their dancing more, like her more, Alec, The Suxy, and that there should've never been a dance off).

I liked the professional dancers together - who knew Ashly was so flexible? Jonathan's stiff neck still bothers me, but he's still cute and still can't believe he's not gay.

I also found the Judges odd tonight. I do think they are bitter about the controversy over their judging and that their votes won't count tonight. Hey, they can quit moaning and vote!

That Lisa Canning...

I think she's smoking pot again and Bergeron is her dealer.

Alec burning a mental hole through Lisa's head with his stare after she stopped him from speaking his mind. He barely gets a word in, let the man talk, Whitney.

And for the kids, I vote for Faye and Dale. They were the best, but they seemed bigger and older than the others.

I thought the outfits were decidely different - and better for the most part (Charlotte's blue jumpsuit, I'm looking at you). I liked KM's outfits and was suprised that they weren't as revealing. No bikini-posing-as-dresses this time. I think the lady with the scizzor who attacked the blue jumpsuit also got to Kelly's red dress, but with better results. She really looks different with her hair that way. I liked how Charlotte's style was less severe and more normal (hair down and everything). My favorite outfit was Kelly's free style outfit and I was glad she pinned her bangs away from her face.

I was so happy to see the Suxy. They were being extra close I think and extra flirty during the dances. Alec was looking all kinds of hot. Did ya'll see how he didn't grease up his hair in the first dance? It was like in the rehearsals. I guess he didn't have time to put gel in his hair with all the extra "personal training" during their "daily regiments". :) Eeeeeee!! 12 is a nice age to be :)

What I want to see on the results show:
!. Kelly getting her 2nd ugly ass trophy (dancing shoes on a stick?)
2. KM and Alec announcing that they've succomed to the suxy and that all the speculation is all true ;)
3. Kelly and John dancing together

After watching that mess of a show, I don't even care who wins. There isn't that much padding at a soph-senior.

I think John and Charlotte were rather off tonight. I think both couples were off, but Kelly and Alec had the advantage of better songs, better choreography, and more energy. I again thought J/C's freestyle was subpar. Again, lots of time in the start in which they didn't dance, and the whole "story" they were telling was lame and distracting -- Charlotte is an elegant woman, but having her out there in a velvet Staying Alive jumpsuit making faces and flicking her nose at John, having to rub up against his spandex-clad belly just wasn't impressive.

I thought John's comments were completely snotty and rude, and for someone who seems very involved with a classy sport like golf, I would have expected him to know better. As for Kelly's comments -- hey, she just said they were given tens and were the best of the season... as was told to her by Len. It's not like she said one disparaging thing about John and Charlotte. I don't see how she can be construed as a poor winner -- she hardly rubbed anyone's face in anything.

Kelly sure is a troll-looking little woman![/shallow]

John and Charlotte's freestyle looked ridiculous, and those outfits were crimes against fashion.

I loved the children dancers, though.

John is such a sore looser!!!! I guess John has never heard of being graceful in defeat!!! That sad part is I liked his second dance and thought it was the best dance of the night. However, after listening to his pity party, all my votes went to Kelly.

I loved the little kids too! I thought they were so funny. And adorable in their bright little outfits.

The show was fun to watch, but I totally started thinking... forget this danceoff thing. What we really need is a the-sex/hotness off (dancing included, of course) ... between Alec and the person that some of us may have spotted in the crowd. :)

After rewatching the bloopers, have to love that Kelly smacked Alec on the ass.

In general, I think it'd be more fun to dance with Alec than John. I don't think I could stand being in the same room with John and his preening, attention-hog ways, let alone be his dance partner. During the dance-out, Alec and Kelly are dancing, he's looking down at her, they're paying attention to each other and having fun. John is busy gesticulating for Charlotte to look at him each time the camera cuts to them and being all hammy.

Just my opinion, but their waltz was the only good dance of the night. It was wonderful.

Loni Anderson? I sure hope you meant someone else.


Kelly smacking Alec on the ass was one of the highlights of the evening.

Am I the only one disappointed that JOH seems to gained all the weight back (and then some?) Get thee too a Weight Watchers, Mr. Peterman!

As for the show, filler until RS:Inxs and keeping me off the RS boards - I will not be spoilered, I will not be spoilered, 3 minutes!

A smart guy who made a jerk of himself on national telvision tonight. If he wins, maybe he can pay someone to change his diapers or give him a pacifier.

Was anyone having a good time tonight? The kid dancers were the only people having a good time. The worst pandering for ratings since that half-hour recap version of Ally McBeal.

Thanks to tonight, I will not be watching the next season. They turned a perfectly decent snack food into bittercakes.

I was shocked at what a sore loser JOH was! And I liked him so much during the original competition. It made me hope he loses again.



Exactly.



ITA. Their routines were pretty, but just didn't seem particularly challenging.

I'll be watching next season but not if JOH is involved.

If he was doing this to get publicity - I don't think that's the image he wanted to project.

I've been on the Kelly hate-wagon and the John defense-train, but here's my two cents.

ITA. The jumpsuit was bad....so bad. K/A's freestyle was finally the first dance of theirs I liked! I thought they were clearly the best in the FS. The judges seemed to be voting slightly in John's favor to try to make up for last time.

Spandex is not his friend. I think he gained a lot back, maybe not all of it, but some.

Despite being impressed with K/A's freestyle, I voted 5 times online and 10 times by phone for John. Since he and Charlotte got robbed last time (IMAO), it was only fair in my mind to turn the tables.


The sums it up perfectly. I didn't watch the final because I'd already been spoiled at TWoP on the outcome. I was too pissed at the time to watch. This time I sort of watched while doing other things.

Lisa Canning needs to go away. I thought the music was better this time though. Did anybody else think so too?

Yeah, I know what you mean. I thought John O'Hurley was fun and funny during the first go-round, but this time he soured the whole show. It's a sparkly dance-fest, not the Nobel prize. How desperate can you be for a silly trophy? Just get on with your life. Anyway, he moved me to do something I never thought I'd do in my life: pick up the phone and vote.

Oh, and I notice that he didn't turn down his three tens after saying nobody deserved a ten for their dancing on the first show, let alone three. Hypocrite. His waltz bored me anyway.

Best part of the show: the bloopers and the judges bitching at each other. The controversy has certainly gotten to Len. Get rid of him and replace him with a judge or two who can judge American styles.

To the poster who said it was unfair that the phones lines opened before the show: they didn't. You had to wait fifteen minutes into the show, after both couples had danced once and John O'Hurley had made the first of his many whiny speeches.

Well, it sure felt like it trying to vote for K & A, busy signals give me spasms.

I got a couple votes in for K & A on my land line, but nothing on my cell. I just found them to be much more enjoyable to watch.

Charlotta's first outfit and John's last were really bad.

The kids were fun to watch and their interviews were hysterical. Especially the girl who said she would marry the boy after many, many years and he said he would be dead and she said exactly.

Were there any other "celebrities" in the studio audience tonight? All I saw were Loni Anderson and her lips.

I enjoyed the summer series so much, but I ended tonight's Dance-Off with such a sad, kind of icky, feeling. It just seemed like the "fun" element of the show was nowhere in evidence tthis evening. The judges were irritable and contentious, Kelly and Alec looked exhausted, John was bitchy, Bergeron was trying way too hard, and Lisa Canning was either talking over or cutting off people to the point that she was making me cringe. Oy! Bring back the breezy, cheezy show I loved last summer.

Also, except for the demos by the professional dancers, I hated the filler. If I want to watch singing, I'll tune into AI, thanks. And I guess I'm in the minority, but I thought that it was creepy to see children in those sexy costumes and makeup. I was having JonBenet flashbacks.

I think Len took a lot of heat for the 3 "10s" in the finals and since he's the only "real" ballroom judge he certainly took it out on the competitors tonight.

Actually, he's supposedly kept the weight off, and lost five more pounds! Seeing him in spandex made me think he needs another 25 pounds gone!

The best part of the show for me was the two demo dances. I don't think I took a breath the whole time the two couples were performing. Now that was dancing with the stars! Couldn't help but wish Artem could have shown us his Paso Doble with Giselle though. **sigh** (SYTYCD reference.)

The music was, if anything, worse than before, or perhaps it was the singers I objected to. There was such a welcome difference when the pro was belting it out.

I thought the costumes were a vast improvement over most of what we saw during the regular series. I kept wondering if zig'spal might renounce her renouncement of feathers after seeing Charlotte's waltz gown.

As to the dances and the celebs, it was what it was and they are who they are. Thanks to them all for the great time.

Heeeh! I definitely definitely meant someone else. I was just trying not to give something away... for something thats not completely unrelated (even though I figured I had already)... just in case people haven't checked spoilers yet. Though um... funny coincidences, hmm?