Carrie Ann Inaba is on So You Think You Can Dance. Does this mean she won't be on DWTS2? Well, she was only a choreographer on that show though they should have her replace their skanky host.

This would be the only way that I would watch that stupid show. I have never been a fan of soap operas but I would be willing to tape the show and FF through all of it until he was on the screen.

I have a confession to make. I'm old enough to predate VCRs, and used to plan my daily life around "Ryan's Hope." Workouts, training, classes...everything was secondary to my daily fix. Marg Helgenberger was a bona fide hottie on the show and I had such a crush on Nancy Addison.

Ummm, topic...I bet both could dance OK.

It's odd that Carrie Ann didn't mention anything about being on "So You Think You Can Dance" when she was on LKL and he asked about her future projects.

To go back to the Julie Warner thing, I know exactly who she is. And apparently first you do the cheesy-fake Head and Shoulders commercial wherein you imply that blond actresses have it much easier than brunettes, then you do DWTS. Seriously, if you don't want to do celeb reality TV, then don't do it. But don't insinuate that it's because your career is too good for it, sweetie, because I've seen your "flakes."

I have this awful idea that in an attempt to manufacture more "drama" they'll cast exes hoping they'll be spiteful and bitter for the camera. I agree that that is NOT what I was hoping for. I was nice to have a non Survivor-like reality show where people aren't plotting scheming and spiteful. Hope these people don't screw it up.
BTW if we have a reality show contestant I hoep they pick someone from the Amazing Race, although it would have to be anybody but Rob and Amber which I don't think of as TAR people but as of course Survivor people. Maybe one of the brothers from the last season. I met them and they are very nice. They are also each abut 6ft 5 so I'm not sure how tall their dance partners would have to be.

One of the cable networks is airing "Battle of the Network Reality Stars", an updated version based on the old show "Battle of the Network Stars" which ran in the '80s....enough is enough...I REALLY don't want to see any more reality show "stars" on DwtS....PLEASE!

Great. Another non-charismatic, dull personality, good-looking male actor. Just what Hollywood needs. Uggh.



Exactly. And what I find constantly irritating is that I know TV execs look at all this hoopla about John/Kelly, and they think "Hey, drama! This certainly means that everyone will tune in for MORE drama!" And suddenly we've got another Jonathan/Victoria situation (TAR), which potentially ruined the show. I, for one, do turn off shows partway through seasons if they've crossed the line (and, I recognize that my line isn't the same as everyone else's line) of absurdity, being despicable, being overly outrageous, etc.

ETA:
Regarding them including more reality personalities on DWtS...I'd be just fine with them including Colby (slurp) but if they included Rupert, I'd tune out for sure.

I imagine that SYTYCD will be over long before DwtS2 starts, so I'd think she'd be able to do both.



Contractual obligations? Perhaps ABC wouldn't be happy with her promoting a rival network's show while on LKL for the purposes of discussing ABC's DwtS.

Doesn't look like this has been posted yet, but if so, my apologies. Radar Online has a piece on the whole "controversy" on its front page today.

From the article...



Again, I am not going to take any conspiracy theory seriously when people don't get the "Disneyland" (and the article wasn't even correct because Kelly said Disneyland, not Disneyworld) comment as a shout-out to the Super Bowl commercials.

Not just Super Bowl...winning athletes have been doing this for years...in baseball's World Series, ice skating champions, you name it.

I think this is one of those things that you just can't tell about any more -- sometimes they do it out of the feelings in their hearts, and sometimes the do it out of contractual obligations.

Based on the way Kelly said it, I'm willing to bet that it was an off the cuff remark.

Well, there you go! And someone as busy as her probably hasn't had much of a chance to do something that silly and fun in her free time in a while. Just because Disney/ABC seems to own half of the entertainment industry it doesn't mean that everyone is a whoring corporate shill.

It will be interesting to see who they get for the second season. I think for the first season, they were only able to get B-level "stars" and has-beens, because they could not forsee how popular the show would be, and the more established stars may have been afraid of making fools of themselves. Now that the show is such a success, possibly more successful celebrities might be clamoring to be on it.

I re-watched the final episode, and there is no question Kelly actually stopped dancing for a few seconds, because she was so out of sync with Alec; and at the end he almost threw her down. I don't think that rated a "10" score. Nonethless, they were much more enjoyable to watch than John and Charlotte's free-style routine, which looked amateurish, too young for them and sloppy.

Well, now it's over to Fox for "So, You Think You Can Dance," which is a lot more fun than I expected it to be.

Edited, because I don't think there's any such thing as a "freek-style" routine, though maybe I'll be proven wrong.

And with all that exposure, it's even more silly that "entertainment" writers keep mentioning it as some kind of evil sign of the conspiracy.

I remember that they had to let Trent Dilfer do the commercial after the Ravens won the Super Bowl because Ray Lewis' legal troubles and SNL did a skit about it afterwards apologizing to the public for Trent Dilfer because he sucks.

True, and every single one of them was paid by Disney to say it, the remark was not made spontaneously by those athletes and the cameras that caught them saying it were not there by accident. That may well be why Kelly, already an employee of a Disney offshoot, is looked at with some suspicion when she plugged Disney after winning a contest on their network. It is not entirely outside the realm of possibility that she was told to say it and was paid to do so just as athletes have been. For that matter, it's also possible that JOH would've said the same line if he had won, it could've been arranged in advance. If Kelly didn't realize how it would look if she plugged ABC's parent corporation after winning, then she is hopelessly naive.


Isn't she supposed to be a professional actress? Wouldn't she have been able to make it look 'off the cuff' even if it wasn't? I've never seen her on GH so I don't know what her attributes she brings to the job other than her looks, but I don't think it is beyond the realm of possibility that she was indeed prepared to plug Disney if she won, and was capable of making it look spontaneous. Whether she actually goes to Disneyland is moot as far as I can tell, she got the plug in on the most popular show of the summer.

I'm a Kelly/Alec fan so maybe I'm biased. But the Disneyland remark sounded/looked sponteneous to me. If you, generally speaking, really think there's this vast conspiracy then Tom Bergeron's comment right after that (which was something like "how's that for company synergy") can be taken as the conspiracists(sp?) trying to appear as if there is no conspiracy coz look we're pointing out the obvious connections? Haha, we're so clever, blah blah blah. I just don't buy it. Not the Disneyland argument anyway. I hope I made sense - I don't usually lol

Also, just ranting about that Radar Online article. I really hate articles like that that try to be snarky and witty and clever but it is really just a hateful piece of "journalism". What was with that comment about O'hurley being a sore loser because he danced on a reality show? WTF?

While I'm on the subject - I've tried to forget about the EW article but something about it has been on my mind. There was a line about Kelly being 'fiesty' and that 'that's putting it nicely' WTF? What a one sided hateful piece of trash of an excuse for a magazine. Stop trying to be Jon Stewart. I think that even the fans here who don't think Kelly should've won nor think she's much of an dancer can at least agree with me in saying that she was always a nice person. In fact EVERYONE was nice on this show. That's what made it so good and fun.

It's so funny that Kevin Smith, creator of Clerks and Chasing Amy, was trashing EW last night on Leno because they reviewed his book and gave it a D. He said they used EW to pick up dog poop. Which is what I'll be doing from now on.

Okay, that felt good. I think I'm zen now.

I don't believe that she was told by ABC to plug Disneyland. If I were to win anything and someone asked me how I felt, I'd probably blurt out "I'm going to Disney World". Because as a kid growing up, I saw that on TV every time a professional athlete won something, and I'd dream of one day being in a situation where I won something and would be able to say that. I think Kelly is no different. She probably has never won anything like this that is competitive and where she has a microphone thrust in her face.

It was such an inane question ("how do you feeeeel"), and it deserved a silly answer. I mean, how do they think she feels? What can she say without looking like a bad winner (I thought I was great and I deserved it) or a wrong winner (John should have won since he was better than me). It seems to me that if they dislike Kelly, that no matter what she would have said in response to "how do you feel", that she would be opening herself up to criticism of some sort by those media writers that apparently loathe her. These people are determined to hate her and are trying to overanalyze and pick apart every thing she says.

The next thing you know, someone is going to hear her farting and then claim that she's crude and not at all this soap princess, and that ABC concocted this conspiracy to try and disguise the fact that Kelly's a normal girl like many viewers. I feel bad for her that these people in the media are subjecting her every move and utterance to such scrutiny. It's taking away from the fun of the show.

I wasn't under the impression Disneyland was in need of plugging. Has Dollywood been creeping up on it, unbeknownst to me? I mean, really. Disneyland and Disneyworld are the premier family amusement parks in the country. I don't think the Disneyland brand needs shilling.

In further corporate synergy news, "Disneyland" got a star on the Hollywood walk of fame last week. B/c of, you know, its fine acting abilities.

ETA: Ditto, Djork.

When Kelly said she was going to Disneyland, I actually laughed because I thought she said it very tongue in cheek. I think the question caught her off guard, so off the cuff she opted for the cheesy pop-culture line and made an inside joke.


So true, I think that phrase has really permeated the pop culture of our generation. People say it because they know it's cliche and they wanna have fun with it. Lol, when I made the winning grab at our silly ultimate frisbee game, my friend said "What are you gonna do now?" Of course I gave the matching response "I'm going to Disneyland!"

I'm rewatching my Semis and Finals tape of DWTS because yes, I am just that lame. Still not loving John's facial expressions on the rewatch. He scowled through the Paso Doble. Serious, angry-five-year old, "my-sister-stole-my-Han-Solo-doll-to-replace-Ken" scowling, not a suxy glower. I guess it's not really fair to compare him to Alec, though. Alec, who has ruined all other men for me, haha.

I would like next season for the dancers to get to pick their own music. I think you can license almost any song for public performance through one or two main agencies. Unless TPTB don't want the pros choreographing ahead of time. But then I would say don't let anyone dance to the Paso song.

You really think that in the split seconds between the win, Tom's question, and her response she really had any chance to be considering the import of making a pop-culture joke? A mind that fast and she'd be in a think tank solving the poverty and creating a plan for world peace.

Disneyland? Disneyworld? Why didn't I think of that?

These last few weeks have been so hectic...All of my summer plans have to be changed now. We were all set to vacation at the Lake, but Kelly says that Disneyland is the place to go. What other choice do I have now? Disneyland here I come!!!

Thank goodness TPTB coached Kelly to plug Disneyland. Without her endorsement, they may have had to close the place down.

Kelly Monaco...The Savior of Disney. Who'da thunk it?

Anyone else noted the rise in dancing in TV commercials since DWTS? I just saw one tonight for tires (of course -- nothing instills confidence in the road-worthiness of tires like ballroom dancing) and some other ad for aftershave or some product I've quickly forgotten.

Great post! The funny thing is she is the only one that thinks she has a career. Some of you have mentioned a few, kind of, recent bit parts but I think it's very sad when Craig Ferguson introduces you as having been in Doc Hollywood and Flatliners, just those 2, no others. Like how long ago was that..15 years or more...?
She doesn't even have enough of a career to be on DWTS .

You've never seen an ad for Disneyland or Disneyworld on TV or in a magazine? For a corporation that needs no plugging, they've sure got a pretty hefty advertising budget. They've also used their ownership of ABC to further their corporate brand in ways big and small and have done so from the moment they bought the network. Having Kelly plug the mothership on the finale of DWTS is not beyond the realm of possibility at all. Maybe it was her idea to do it, maybe it wasn't; I doubt we'll ever know. The fact that she was asked a question that set her up to make the Disney plug as well as the fact that Bergeron had a snappy quip about it at the ready make it seem like a setup to me. I don't think it taints her win, it just means she's not the innocent ingenue she was portrayed as on the show. The fact that she launched her career by posing buck naked in Playboy is proof of that.


Once again, I just find it hard to believe that a woman who got into showbiz by selling nude photos of herself to Playboy is all that concerned about being subjected to negative public opinion, let alone that she is a 'normal' girl when it comes to this stuff. She and her family would have to be fairly well unconcerned about other people's opinions by now.

Wow, that's a little harsh! I never thought ABC or Kelly/Alec were going for an innocent vibe. Far from it. Almost every comment Tom Bergeron made about/to Kelly throughout the show remarked on her lack of clothes ("no place to put the mic, haha"), her "assets," and other comments/innuendo about the general sex appeal of her and Alec's dancing. I also don't see her as an ingenue -- she says she's worked hard in the business (and on the show), clawing her way up. She wasn't portrayed as being fresh off the bus from Kansas. Plucky, spunky, feisty, yeah. But naive and innocent? I didn't get that at all. Kelly and Alec were the hot! latin! couple almost from the beginning.

I'm having a hard time following the connection between those photographs in her past and her allegedly being a corporate shill, out to hoodwink the American public in collusion with her employer. What does the one have to do with the other?

peppypen,



You have a special place in my heart because everytime you say that it reminds me of Scully! lol

I guess we completely disagree with the Disneyland comment and Bergeron's comment about company synergy. Any thoughts about Kelly's comment on Regis and Kelly when she wondered aloud, looking straight at the camera sarcastically, why ABC didn't take her to Disneyworld? This was after they talked about how all she got was a cake or lunch for winning.

annlaw78,

I just wanted to say that I agree with you and just about everything you post. You post everything that I usually want to say on my posts but much better! You're really making me look bad ;)

I just have to comment on this, because the one and only time I went to Disney/ABC's "SuperSoapWeekend" at Disneyworld/MGM Studios, Kelly Monaco was there. ABC sends about 10-15 actors from each of their soaps to this shindig every year, where they sit in the hot sun and sign autographs for lines and lines of people who squeee and grab at them and call them by their character names, do interviews and faux talk shows, ride in little cars with Goofy and Mickey, and generally act as corporate shills. Except for that part of their time when they're clubbing and drinking.

Considering the fact that 30-45 ABC soap stars do the corporate shill thing each and every year by going to DisneyWorld, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that she mentioned going to Disneyland or World for those reasons. Besides, it seems kind of silly to say she wants them to give her a pleasure trip to the very same place they may be sending her for a business trip in November, anyway.

I think if you read the post just above this one, you'll see that Kelly's bosses do indeed take her to Disneyworld on a regular basis in order to promote her show and to draw crowds to their amusement park. She already promotes Disney in this way. For that matter, Disney owns Regis and Kelly's show too, and they plug the place relentlessly, including filming there all the time. Perhaps the reason Kelly M. complained about not being taken to Disneyworld on their show was because it was another opportunity to mention the place and to continue her 'storyline' as the unappreciated little underdog.


As far as Kelly's silly comment about only getting cake for winning, I'm sure everyone here is well aware that all of the stars were paid to appear on the show, and it's likely that they also got additional monies based on how many shows they appeared in since that would mean doing that much more rehearsal. Considering she was asked to appear at the very last minute, Kelly should've been able to negotiate a very fine paycheck for it. JOH has commented several times that they were paid extremely well for appearing. I wouldn't be surprised if Kelly's bosses gave her a generous bonus because the show was more successful than expected and she played a big part in that. Once again, Kelly is way too savvy to brag about the big fat paycheck she got for appearing, she needs to perpetuate the poor little underdog persona by pretending that all she got was a piece of cake for winning.

Thanks, Mully -- I ditto your posts as well!

Kelly's cake comment was answering Regis's question about what sort of party they threw her. Her response was she got a cake. And she seemd happy about it until Regis started ranting about inhumane injustice of it all, and then the Kellys talked about a cake is a big deal on soap.

Anyway, I thought it was all in good fun, taking the piss out of the cheesy trophy. Of course she was remunerated for being on the show; she didn't deny it. They were talking about the prize, which technically amounted to a trophy and a cake for the biggest ratings success since Survivor's debut in 2000. And she has said repeatedly that she was glad there wasn't a big purse at stake, b/c the competition was about learning and performing and having fun, etc.

I don't think Kelly really wants to go to Disneyland or is upset she didn't get to go. I'm in the Disneyland-comment-was-off-the-cuff-meant-to-be-a-joke camp. The whole point of the "I'm going to Disneyland" thing, as I understand it, is to see adults (namely top-level athletes) so giddy in their success that all they can think of to do is to live out their childhood dreams. It's become shorthand for being so thrilled with your win/success. I doubt "going to Disneyland" is really something Kelly was serious about.

I'm coming around to thinking the ongoing controversy is most likely a good thing, keeping the show (and the stars and the pros) in the public eye longer. Hopefully it will carry interest in the show and pros over until their school opens in LA. Hopefully it will carry interest in the stars until they can ink whatever deals they want as a result. So in the big scheme of things, I think some critical articles about Kelly's win aren't the worst thing in the world for her, though I'm sure at times she's less than thrilled at the molehill that's been turned into a mountain. But hey -- mountains are better press!

ETA: Desperate Housewives Apperance?

Yes, that was the theme of the Disney advertising campaign which used the athletes, none of whom actually said that phrase spontaneously. All of them were approached by Disney and contracted in advance to say the line in the event their team won the crucial game. They don't do it because they are 'giddy with success', they do it because they have signed a contract to promote Disney in this way. That's why it is very possible that Disney did the same for Kelly. In this case, they didn't even need to arrange for a camera to be around to record the moment, one was already there, as well as Tom Bergeron to ask the crucial question and make the witty comeback. Just as Regis and Kelly plug Disney ventures relentlessly on their show. This stuff is not spontaneous, it is a planned part of the festivities.

So you do think that Kelly was approached in advance by TPTB and told "in the event that you win, you need to say you are going to Disneyland"? Obviously TPTB already knew that since Kelly had won the viewer vote, that she was going to win the title. It seems apparent to me from the nervousness that she exhibited right before the announcement that she didn't have any idea that she was going to win. She seemed so shocked and excited. I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree, but it seemed very spontaneous to me. If it had not been spontaneous, I think they would have reminded her just before the announcement "hey, you won the show, make sure you plug Disney". But her reaction doesn't seem to indicate it.

If she was asked to plug Disney relentlessly, why wouldn't more of it had made its way into the rehearsal or interview footage? I.e., "I feel just like Belle in 'Beauty and the Beast'" or "When I was a little girl I dreamed of being Cinderella and going to the ball" or "When Alec picks me up for that lift my heart soars like I'm on Space Mountain" or even "if by some chance I win I'm gonna go to Disneyland". Seems to me that there were plenty of opportunities for Disney to instruct her to promote Disney, and that she didn't.

If she didn't, then she wasn't paying attention! Based on the fact that she survived the first couple weeks despite being scored very low by the judges, she was clearly number one in the fan voting from the very start. If I'm not mistaken, she was the only competitor on the entire show to never even be ranked in the bottom two. Kelly had to have known she was the viewers' favorite and that that meant she had won well before the show ever started. If you go back on this forum and look, you'll see that those of us who posted back then knew she was a lock to win a couple weeks before the finale. There are many many posts that explain exactly why it was impossible that she was ever not number one in the fan voting. She was not the least bit surprised, that's why it is called acting.

That assumes that she actually takes the time to read forums like this one. And that she understood how the scoring system works. With her soap taping and her practicing, I don't really see her wading through places like TWoP to see if she has immense support from viewers. Plus, many of us here were extremely confused about a scoring system that seemed to have been made up after the first episode. I don't believe that the "scoring explanation" was added to the ABC site until a week or two in. Also, I don't know if someone like Kelly is going to think about mathematical possibilities and whether or not she was going to win. She just wanted to perform to the best of her ability.

I don't think the fact that she survived the first judges' vote necessarily indicates she was the clear number one in fan voting. Peterman easily could have had more votes. The problem is that we don't know.

I think a better performance of acting was Peterman's aw shucks "oh no, there's no way I'm the best" reactions to the consistent "you're the couple to beat".

It appears Kelly Monaco may be joining the cast of "Desperate Housewives."

Monaco Under Consideration for "Desperate Housewives"

I can't get in to read that article, but I think it's a bad idea. DH already has its short dark-haired former soap starlet, Eva Longoria. Plus Longoria and Kelly Monaco look very similar and things would be confusing.

I guess I could see Kelly making a guest appearance on DH. I just don't see her joining them permanently because the cast is already large as is! Plus, she'd be going against Eva Longoria, the "young, sexy hot babe" in the show.

Exactly. Also, I would assume JO'H didn't take the time to understand how the scoring system works either. Because if he did, he should have voiced concern long before the finale. It makes him a very sore loser if he knew well before the finale that the scoring system was flawed, and the only reason he is complaining about it is because he lost. So, if JO'H, who probably has a little more time on his hands than KM, likely did not understand the scoring system, it is even more likely KM did not.

As far as the Disneyland comment goes, as I've said before I don't think it was planned. But then I'm not so quick to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon. I really didn't care who won, so I don't feel the need to cry foul when the evidence is circumstantial at best. Disney used the same line in an ad campaign? They haven't used it in years. Disney has a large ad budget? That in no way proves or even suggests that some of it went toward KM. I think Occam's Razor applies here.

Maybe they'll play sisters!

She can play Teri Hatcher's little sister. They look like they could be. Then a tall dark and mysterious Russian with a dancer's body and a cute gap between his teeth will walk into town to fix her plumbing! heh

I agree, peppypen. I guess we're just too jaded about the entertainment industry, lol!


This assumes that 1) he was upset and 2) if he was upset, it was over the fan voting. Seems much more likely to me that if he were upset, it would have been over the judges' behavior at the end, regardless of whether he had expected the public votes to go his way or not. In other words, not upset over losing so much as upset over realizing that he (and the others) were used by ABC as tools to promote their own agenda.

Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.

The rules, including the fact that the audience vote was the tiebreaker, was explained in detail on the very first episode. I'm sure Kelly and the other participants got them in writing and didn't need ABC's website to help them.

No matter how busy Kelly is, she has people who work for her including agents and publicists, who are paid to promote her career. While I doubt her workday is so jampacked that she never had even a moment to check the rules, I am sure that those people were well aware that this show was a popularity contest and that they made Kelly aware of it, too. Otherwise, she should fire them for not doing their jobs since surfing the web for just this sort of stuff is exactly what they do.

I was able to figure out that the viewer vote was everything on this show in just a couple minutes without the aid of a website, Kelly, as a participant, certainly should've done as least as much pondering on the subject as I did. Look back a few weeks, you'll see that there were many, many posters here who knew exactly what was going to happen weeks before the finale.


She not only survived the first vote, we know she was not in the bottom two while the judges ranked her very low. Based on who went home (Trista) and that Kelly managed to avoid the bottom two, there is no way she was not the top vote getter in the audience vote, otherwise, she or Evander would've been gone. There is a post that explains this in detail on an earlier page. Once again, this is not rocket science and anyone who can count from 1 to 6 can do the math and prove it.

I think you answered your own question there. She was using a little thing we call sarcasm.

That was what I was going for earlier re: what the "I'm going to Disneyland" campaign was about. Not that I don't believe it's an ad campaign, but that I don't believe Kelly is really upset or cares about a comped trip to Disneyland. The people Disney gets to say that line don't necessarily want to go there. The idea of the ad campaign is that cute, childish thrill of victory thing or whatever, not that burly NFL stars actually don't have any greater desire than to go see Mickey Mouse. So I don't think she was actually bent out of shape about it.

As to the voting, I consider myself reasonably intelligent, though admittedly not mathematically inclined, and it never dawned on me that Kelly was the highest audience vote getter. I know Peppypen (I think) very clearly outlined that previously, and I believe him/her. I don't know why I always thought Kelly was about to get voted off. Does anyone know if they announced the non-losers on the show in order of most-votes? I know there has been some question on AI if the last two of the "bottom three" are actually the two lowest vote-getters, or if there's some manufactured tension -- if the bottom three are in places 2, 3, and 4 after the votes, if they let #2 off the hook first always, or if they might let #3 go first to spice things up/shock people that #2 might be eliminated.

I agree that Kelly and Alec should remain a two-for in casting. She can be Teri Hatcher's sister, he can be, hmmm, Eva's new boy toy? Who Teri's sister then steals, causing great angst, drama, and fighting? And then it turns out he's actually an assassin just posing as a pool boy?

I think Tom B was pretty clear that those who were "safe" each week were not named in any particular order.

Eeeeeeeep! I just fell off my chair, rotfl! Plumbing! I wanna see plumbing action!

This also assumes there was an agenda in the first place.

Agree!

ETA I love watching the video clips over and over, there is always something new, some performances that I liked better than the first time I saw them, some I liked less. Overall, my favs are Kelly's samba, Joey's paso, and Rachel's tango. And obviously Kelly & Alec's rumba for launching the good ship!

Speaking of the samba, I loved in the original performance towards the end when Alec passes by Kelly and his hand goes pass over her head, he playfully runs his fingers through her hair! SO CUTE! And since he didn't do the same the second time around, I'm using this as PROOF of affection, hee. Aww, Alec just couldn't help himself!

I think it's fair to assume he had some thoughts on the voting issue, as he voiced them on LKL. His beef seemed, to me, to be with the fan vote, and something about how it wasn’t done right b/c ABC had to try to deal with time zones and didn’t have a good system for it. It didn’t (and still doesn’t) make sense to me, but his comment didn't seem to be aimed at the judges’ vote, which, for all intents and purposes, had no real effect on the outcome, other than for one dance, he wasn’t the judge’s favorite. Cry me a river.

So how do we know that Kelly was so high in the audience vote every time, if we only know that she was low in the judges' vote, but managed not to get voted off? I'm confused with that. She could have just barely eked by then, right? Or am I confused (entirely possible!).

I love that the show is still being talked about!