BanjoSteve
Mar 7, 2005 @ 10:29 am
This'll work just like the Six Degrees of Enterprise thread over in the Enterprise forum. You answer the question, then pose another, and so on. When you post your answer, spoiler tag it, so people can try to figure it out for themselves. I'll get us started.
Which episode was set in whole or in part the furthest in the past and which was set furthest in the future?
nelamm
Mar 7, 2005 @ 11:49 am
Well, for the past, I'd say All Our Yesterdays (TOS) and for Earth's past Time's Arrow (TNG).
As for future, I guess Shockwave (ENT).
I'm unsure of myself, though, so I'll hold on another question.
Locutus
Mar 7, 2005 @ 12:46 pm
I would guess that the farthest in the past would be the Voyager episode with Quinn the Q. Didn't they hide pre-big bang at one point?
My guess to the farthest in the future would be Voyager again when Janeway and Seven went to the 29th Century.
As to a question....how about......"How many Federation ships have been seen using a cloaking device?"
dbrugg
Mar 7, 2005 @ 12:49 pm
With the past, I'd have to go with TNG's All Good Things...
The future is a little harder, I think. My guess, Voyager's Living Witness.
I think we should have one question at a time, however. If I read BanjoSteve right, anyone who guesses could then advance a question. It could get confusing really quickly.
Cleo256
Mar 7, 2005 @ 2:54 pm
So much for Trivia. Now it's a debate.
BanjoSteve
Mar 7, 2005 @ 7:22 pm
Okay, how about this. One question at a time. Once the person who asked the question decides and annonces who correctly answered it, they get to ask one, and so on.
echopapa
Mar 7, 2005 @ 7:38 pm
"How many Federation ships have been seen using a cloaking device?"
We've seen two: the Defiant and the Enterprise-D (in future-form from "All Good Things"). At least one more was equipped with the cloaking device (the Pegasus) but we never actually saw it cloak.
Locutus
Mar 8, 2005 @ 12:04 am
There are at least two more examples, echopapa. A clue to one of them is in your own spoiler tag and please don't make an "incident" about the other one.
WannaBeBad2
Mar 8, 2005 @ 3:54 am
I believe the Enterprise-D used the Pegasus' cloak to get out of the asteroid in which they were stuck, and Kirk stole a Romulan cloaking device for the Enterprise NCC-1701 in the "Enterprise Incident."
Why are we putting the answers in Spoiler font, anyway?
Locutus
Mar 8, 2005 @ 12:03 pm
Yes, those were the four I was thinking of : Enterprise-TOS, Enterprise-D, Enterprise-D Alt Future, and The Defiant. The Pegasus did use it's cloak, but we didn't see it.
nelamm
Mar 8, 2005 @ 2:54 pm
OK, here's an easy one: Name every captain of the various Enterprises.
Cleo256
Mar 8, 2005 @ 3:29 pm
I'm going to avoid spoiler-tagging, because the Mods don't generally approve of using spoiler tags for stuff that isn't spoilers. People can figure out the answers without looking down the page.
NX-01: Archer. NCC-1701: Pike, Kirk, Spock (in Wrath of Khan, Spock's the captain). -A: Kirk. -B: Harriman. -C: Garrett. -D: Picard, Jellico, Riker (sort of, in "Best of Both Worlds"). -E: Picard.
That's the bulk answer, but I may have missed some details. And I'm pretty sure we never learned the name of the Enterprise-J's captain, in "Azati Prime".
nelamm
Mar 8, 2005 @ 4:22 pm
I guess I'd add Decker from the beginning of TMP. And Scotty had the rank of captain, he just wasn't the CO.
Of course, that's what we know of. There's also April and possibly others pre-Kirk, and a few on B post-Harriman.
Cleo256
Mar 8, 2005 @ 4:28 pm
Yeah, I should have added both Decker and April. They count. Maybe there were others on B, but we don't know enough about the ship's history to add them.
If we get into alternate timelines, we can add Trip.
pennyq
Mar 8, 2005 @ 4:44 pm
And don't forget T'Pol was Captain in Twilight too before she resigned to be Archer's caregiver.
WannaBeBad2
Mar 8, 2005 @ 7:14 pm
Here's another one: Name all the individuals we've seen recover from assimilation. (As I wrote this question, I realized there's a full planet of them from Voyager's "Unity," so go for the characters who've actually recurred.)
Nflux Forever
Mar 8, 2005 @ 10:33 pm
Captain Picard, Seven of Nine and Phlox
Cleo256
Mar 9, 2005 @ 1:13 am
If you count Phlox, then you have to count Janeway, Tuvok, and B'elenna, too. Oh wait, we have to see them recover from assimilation and not just have it glossed over and ignored? Sorry. Nevermind, then.
The Borg Kids: The twins, Mezoti, Icheb, and the vanishing Borg Baby.
Oh, and Data.
Nflux Forever
Mar 9, 2005 @ 2:33 am
The Borg Kids: The twins, Mezoti, Icheb, and the vanishing Borg Baby.
Damn. I forgot about them.
WannaBeBad2
Mar 9, 2005 @ 3:54 am
Good job, and kudos on the Vanishing Borg Baby. That one always bothered me.
To stretch it a bit more, there's still one key borg who regained his individuality in TNG and one more Voyager episode with former drones...
grass hopper
Mar 9, 2005 @ 9:09 am
The missing Borg from TNG is Hugh. Other than that I can only think of the people in Unimatrix Zero, although technically I'd say they regained their individuality without recovering from assimilation.
BanjoSteve
Mar 9, 2005 @ 1:17 pm
one more Voyager episode with former drones...
Actually, I thought this hint was alluding to Survival Instinct, but I suppose the rebellion in Unimatrix Zero, Part II would qualify. And the Borg in Descent, Part II.
Oh, and Data
When was Data assimilated? Are you talking about Descent? If so, I would think that shouldn't count, because that was just Lore manipulating him. If you're talking about First Contact, then I have to quibble, because I thought he was just faking.
WannaBeBad2
Mar 9, 2005 @ 7:20 pm
Yeah, I was thinking of "Survivor Instinct," but the aforementioned two-parters could work. I was trying to get around large groups of freed Borg ("Unity," "Descent," "Unimatrix Zero") in the original question by saying "individuals," as in specific people we got to know, especially the recurring ones. But good job to everyone!
Next question...
Cleo256
Mar 9, 2005 @ 7:35 pm
If you're talking about First Contact, then I have to quibble, because I thought he was just faking.
I was talking about First Contact, but if he was faking, then Janeway, Tuvok, and B'elenna were, too. He was physically assimilated. Er, sort of. Anyway, I always thought it was neat for the Borg to assimilate Data by giving him flesh.
echopapa
Mar 9, 2005 @ 11:37 pm
A few brief questions:
What is Brannon Braga's only non-Trek screenplay?
What is Mr. Homn's only line?
Who was the first actor/actress to play members of three different species on Trek? The second? The third?
What is the only country, to date, to feature Star Trek characters on its currency?
Locutus
Mar 10, 2005 @ 12:52 am
BB contributed to Mission Impossible 2 didn't he?
Didn't Mr. Homn say..."good", or some other such compliment when he had that drink.
Mark Lenard was a Romulan, Vulcan, & Klingon. Was he first?
Suzi Plakson (sic?) was a Klingon, Vulcan, & Q.
Vaughn Armstrong played a shitload, does he have the record?
I'm not sure who has the currency, but it's probably like the Phillipines or something.
SVNBob
Mar 10, 2005 @ 1:58 am
What is the only country, to date, to feature Star Trek characters on its currency?
That could be the US. Abraham Lincoln was featured in the episode "The Savage Curtain".
grass hopper
Mar 10, 2005 @ 4:22 am
I believe Mr. Homn said "thank you for the drinks," to Picard when they were getting ready to leave Enterprise in Haven.
ETA that the only country to feature Star Trek characters (and ships, by the way) on their currency is Liberia.
cuiusquemodi
Mar 10, 2005 @ 10:49 am
But The Savage Curtain makes Lincoln a Star Trek character, doesn't it? Right up there with Hawking and Einstein.
dbrugg
Mar 10, 2005 @ 12:42 pm
Marc Alaimo might have been one of the first three with a hat trick of species. He was a Romulan, human and Cardassian in TNG.
BanjoSteve
Mar 10, 2005 @ 2:40 pm
New question: What character was played by the greatest number of actors?
tothemax
Mar 10, 2005 @ 3:08 pm
Tora Ziyal, Gul Dukat's daughter on DS9, was played by 3 different actresses (none of whom I care about enough to look up) but that's just a wild guess.
Cleo256
Mar 10, 2005 @ 3:44 pm
Naomi Wildman beats her with four. Baby Naomi, toddler Naomi from "Mortal Coil". Slightly older Naomi from the later seasons, and future Naomi from "Shattered".
I don't think she'll be the record (I've already figured on Alexander to tie her, and you don't even need to count a baby), but you've got to remember the different ages thing.
nelamm
Mar 10, 2005 @ 3:49 pm
Well, can we expand that to how many characters have been played by more than one actor? I can think of Saavik, Cochrane, Sarek and Amanda (in TFF), but not many others.
Cleo256
Mar 10, 2005 @ 4:03 pm
If you take the different ages thing into account, I can think of dozens, including regulars. Picard, B'elenna, Jake Sisko, and on and on forever.
BanjoSteve
Mar 10, 2005 @ 4:28 pm
The character I'm thinking of was played by at least six different actors.
echopapa
Mar 10, 2005 @ 8:45 pm
BanjoSteve, you evil man, could it be... Spot?
Cleo256
Mar 11, 2005 @ 12:11 am
The baby Changeling was played by lots of different substances and CG models. I doubt that counts, though.
Assuming that guess of Spot is correct, which I think it might be, here's one: Name all the real-life couples we know of who worked on Star Trek. At least one member of the couple should be an actor, and the other can be another actor or someone who worked behind the scenes.
I can think of six, but there may be more I haven't thought of.
nelamm
Mar 11, 2005 @ 8:53 am
Well, didn't Stewart eventually marry his costar, the one who played the science officer...(mind is a blank).
Hmmm. OK, not taking ages into account, is Saavik (and maybe Cochrane) the only time an actor was changed?
tothemax
Mar 11, 2005 @ 1:14 pm
1) Patrick Stewart and Jeri Taylor.
2) Nana Visitor and Siddig el Fadil.
3) Brannon Braga and Jeri Ryan.
dbrugg
Mar 11, 2005 @ 1:24 pm
1) Patrick Stewart and Jeri Taylor.
2) Nana Visitor and Siddig el Fadil.
3) Brannon Braga and Jeri Ryan.
Substitute Wendy Neuss for Jeri Taylor, Neuss was Stewart's second wife, and a producer on TNG.
In any case, all three of those relationships are dust.
Captain Braxton, the crazy time traveller, was played by a few actors, at least two.
As for actor changes, Ziyal was mentioned upthread and I don't think that was age related.
echopapa
Mar 11, 2005 @ 1:31 pm
More couples: Kate Mulgrew and Winrich Kolbe, and, of course, Gene Roddenberry and Majel Barrett.
Answers to my previous questions: Braga's only non-Trek work is "M:I 2" (suprised it didn't contain any time travel or Bozeman references?), Mr. Homn's only line is "Thank you for the drinks" in Haven, actors #1, 2, and 3 to play a trifecta of species are Mark Lenard, Marc Alaimo and Suzie Plakson, and Liberia, your home for crummy collectable coins, issued silver dollars featuring Kirk and Picard. (Only $19.95 a piece, although the Liberian dollar is worth about two cents.)
Elenita
Mar 11, 2005 @ 1:59 pm
I would also add Roxann Biggs-Dawson and Casey Biggs
Though that might be dust, too.
Cleo256
Mar 11, 2005 @ 3:15 pm
It's okay if the relationships are dust. Roxann Dawson and Casey Biggs were dust before either of them was cast on Trek, and I was counting them. I wasn't aware of Kate Mulgrew and Winrich Kolbe. You guys have hit five of the six I was thinking of. There's one left. Hint: they're both relatively recent (as in post year 2000) Trek stars.
OK, not taking ages into account, is Saavik (and maybe Cochrane) the only time an actor was changed?
Not hardly. Ziyal, Braxton. Ultra-minor characters like Damon Bok. There's even more than one Porthos.
lorien829
Mar 11, 2005 @ 5:22 pm
Isn't it Linda Park and what's-his-face that played Shinzon? Tom Hardy?
BanjoSteve
Mar 11, 2005 @ 7:52 pm
No one has come close to guessing the character I was thinking of. (While there may have been more than six Spots that wasn't what I had in mind). The answer:
The Doctor was played most of the time by Robert Picardo. In Body and Soul, when The Doctor possessed Seven of Nine, he was played by Jeri Ryan. In Renaissance Man, when he impersonated Janeway, Chakotay, and Torres, he was played, obviously, by Kate Mulgrew, Robert Beltran, and Roxann Dawson. And I don't know the name of the actor, but the Doctor also impersonated another character as part of his cover story to steal the warp core.
echopapa
Mar 11, 2005 @ 9:35 pm
I wasn't aware of Kate Mulgrew and Winrich Kolbe.
That's how Mulgrew happened to be hanging around the set when Genevieve Bujold quit... her boyfriend was directing the first episode of "Voyager".
Fine work, Steve. I hadn't thought of that.
Anyway, here's a new question:
Which main characters have died and then returned to life? (Note that alternate-universe versions of the characters, i.e. Tasha Yar and Jennifer Sisko, don't count.) I can think of at least seven.
dbrugg
Mar 12, 2005 @ 10:11 am
Okay, here goes, but I know I won't hit all seven echopapa has in mind
TOS: Scotty (repaired by Nomad), Spock
TNG: Worf (died on the table in "Ethics", but some Klingon redundant system kicked in)
VOY: Neelix
Well, I come up way short here.
BTW, another couple is Max Grodenchik and Lolita Fatjo (script coordinator for a long time).
BanjoSteve
Mar 12, 2005 @ 10:35 am
Which main characters have died and then returned to life?
There's also Picard in 'Tapestry', and probably Harry Kim somewhere. 'Emanations'? Didn't he die in that one? Also, Janeway in 'Coda', though perhaps that was more of a near-death.
Mistral
Mar 12, 2005 @ 12:25 pm
Does Harry Kim count in "Deadlock", too? (I think that's the name of the episode - when there were two Voyagers, and the Viidians attacked.) If so, Naomi Wildman does, too, since it was the same situation. Or do they not count, because it was really a different Harry and Naomi who survived?