It wouldn't be The Apprentice without an appearance by Nipple Boy. Loved the look on everyone's faces when he told them, quite correctly, that they all sucked.

Although we did not see it, there must have been a Magna strategy session where they agreed to stick together and have Erin pitch loyalty as the reason for DT to fire one of the Net Worthless. Otherwise, we know that Erin was eager to throw Michael under the bus.

And as for the cucumber love, well, Bren, that's . . . interesting.

That's brilliant that both teams were declared the loser. Usually, when both teams shank the task, one of them gets declared the winner anyway and it's just painful to watch. But this time, it was obvious neither commercial was worthy of a yoooge reward.

John's idea was pretty good, though. How did Net Worth screw that up? I guess it just goes to show you can't trust someone (Kristen) who has no sense of humor (Kristen) to tell a joke (Kristen).

Nobody won! Yeah, how cool was that? Of course, I really wanted Trump to fire someone from each team. As I was watching, I kept muttering, "Fire Erin, too. Fire Erin, too." She deserved it just for the overly dramatic facial expressions she displayed in the Boardroom. I thought her eyes would pop out her head -- not that that wouldn't have been fun.

I have never hated anyone on RTV more than that actress. The only thing that gave me satisfaction regarding that shrewish famewhore was that the whole issue was never raised in the boardroom as being indicative of a sign of failure on any of the Apps part. You know she thought it would come into major play.

"No one was here to receive me"

HATE. Pure and simple.

Seems like Trump wanted to even out the teams. While neither commercial was good, Net Worth was far superior to the porn produced by Magna. Kristen's departure is hardly a cause for tears, and having a boyfriend who's a director didn't qualify her, but at least they got the message across that Dove is for washing. (The commercial right afterwards showed a geisha with full make up and then a clean face. That said to me that it should be used on the face. It also showed people with unattractive facial pores magically transformed to smooth and lovely skin.) I didn't see anything I can recall that suggested the product was for bodies only.

Though commercial production is not a prerequisite for a position within Trump's org., Bren's idea was repulsive. The only thinking outside the box was that the assistant chef didn't choose her "box."

Trump choosing to keep all of Magna because they got along this time is a crock. The previews for next week suggest he fires someone from a team that is "lovey dovey," as he phrased it. WTF?

The episode totally ticked me off!

Ding dong the bitch is gone! Man did I hate Kristen!! John's idea was GOOD, if it was executed in the proper way. (John should just win the whole thing right now. Love him) Kristen and her fake director skills just screwed it up. Idiot. Why she thought it was a good idea to blame Audrey and Tana for not "keeping the models under control" is beyond me. I didn't even know what she was talking about.

If we're talking about Magna, wow. Bren's idea was the most awful thing I've ever heard. Carolyn's eyes during the filming of the cucumber thing was priceless, hehe. I didn't understand the concept and especially didn't understand how it related to BODYWASH.

Loved their faces when they heard they all lost. Awesome. The REAL Dove commercial they showed at the end was actually pretty good. As are Carolyn's acting skills :)

My God...have any of these people even seen a commercial before? That was embarassing.

I'm right there with Miss Alli about Trump being 4 for 4, though, as far as weeding out the most annoying folks. I didn't even remember who Kristen was, until I went back and realized that she was the one Audrey told to "SHUT THE FUCK UP" in the Motel task. Kristen sucked ass....good riddence.

A number of these people are non-annoying at this point. And did Michael's heart to heart with Magna constitute another Apprentice first--a genuine apology? Yeah, I know he was covering his ass, but still, he seemed to "get it," a little.

Although the "IF" in "I'm sorry IF I offended anyone" seems a little disingenuous, since if your entire team tells Trump you should be fired despite your exemption, it's fairly clear that some offense was taken.

And again....those commercials may be the most hideously awful things I've seen, ever.

I liked having both teams in the boardroom.

I loved that the NBC crew were probably laughing thier asses off at the apprenti attempting to direct.

The racing refreshing commercial coud've been interesting. It would've been better if the guy was naked though. Like running in the way Blink182 did in the what's my age again video. Only they only show the waist up.

But the basis of the magna team commercial was horrible. I could maybe see a commercial like that for Axe but Dove would never air a comercial like that.

Did anyone point out to Kristen that she didn't get the joke? I expect that like a lot of people who lack a sense of humor, she prides herself on her sense of humor.

"This is the box". Hee.

I will say one thing in defense of the two groups of losers -- there's no way that their commercials were going to look anything but cheap. Shot indoors on cheap video with generic props, they actually reminded me slightly of those foreign commercials I don't get. Add in the lack of dialogue and they might as well have been made in Poland.

ETA: Bren may have some very stupid ideas, but I'm impressed with his people skills. If he makes it through the next couple of tasks without this week's miserable failure coming back to bite him in the ass, he might do well. Assuming Magna ever wins another task. Trump probably didn't want to fire one from both teams because Magna's already shorthanded and this lets them catch up a little.

So apparently you can produce low budget porn as long as everyone gets along while doing it?
This episode made me so angry. Erin should have been fired too. Kristin sucked but at least she wasn't going gah gah over male actors. That scene made me sick!

Heh, I loved the attitude the actress was giving them. Like she was Meryl Streep or something. Erin was ready to smack her and I can't blame her. I would have said, "We apologize for the delay. However, you are an unemployed actress. What were we keeping you from - spinning class?" As you can tell, I am a people person.

I thought Kristen deserved her firing. She took a decent idea and made a terrible commercial, all because she equated having a director boyfriend with having talent of her own.

Despite his terrible idea, and his weak defense of it in the board room, I still like Bren. He seems so dorky normal in the world of reality television. And he still sounds like Darrell Hammond.

I just can't believe the teams couldn't come up with better ideas. Clearly the cucumber scent was supposed to have been an element of the campaign - haven't any of these people ever laid cucumbers on their eyes to feel refreshed?

I was so confused by the actress freaking out? I thought the acting profession was full of "hurry up and wait." I figured she shouldn't care, she's getting paid to sit on her ass. (maybe the floor was cold?)

Erin was good with her defense of her team. She mentioned they worked well together and that they were told to come up with something outrageous and "Out of the box" and that they did something outrageous.

Are we still using "out of the box". It was a tired phrase even 10 years ago.

ITA with this. What a damn famewhore. The only reason she put on that hissy-fit was to get more airtime. As if actors don't stand around waiting for shit to get done on the set all the freaking time. Bren handled her pretty well, but my first inclination would have been to say 'See ya' as soon as she started talking about leaving.

John and Craig's idea was pretty good. How could bitchsmack not understand it was a joke? Was it somehow a serious mini-drama on the trials of unclean joggers that she thought she was directing? As PM she should have been the Producer not the director, but she wanted to play with cameras. Fool! Why bring in two people who can refute that the models were the problem, and that the directing of the models was so horrible? Stupid stupid loud woman! So glad she's gone.

Chris blows up again with very odd editing around the blow up. Does he really have only two volumes: boringly dead and raving lunatic?

Erin spends time rubbing down the model only to cut it? The hell was she thinking?

Great funny ep. John is still the frontrunner, imo.

What was UP with that bitchy actress? Does she never want to work again? I'm sure there are tons of actors just clamoring for a shot like that. Damn!

Networth's idea was good, but poorly executed. If it was me, I would have had the main runner jump in a fountain & soap up before winning the race. ehh...

"I am not a homosexual!" As scary as his BR outbursts are, I hope he sticks around. They crack me up.

Wow. There are just no words for how craptastic Bren's idea was. And what is with everyone saying, "Yeah, that's it. That's outside the box." Once again, I wish we saw more of the task. Was that the only idea Magna came up with? Did no one sense how very WRONG it was in so many ways, the least of which its pure inanity? Did Networth really show up at the studio with nothing written? Did they really just cast the actors from their headshots? No auditions? I so would have told that hissy-fitting actress to leave. Mug for the cameras much? Yeah, this is her big break.

Why didn't they all realize they didn't have the resources (although I wish we knew what they were. Did they get a crew? A budget?) to make a good-looking commmercial and opt instead for a cleverly written commercial on a white background. (The actual Dove commercial was shot against white.)

Very glad, however, that the witchy-poo Kristen is gone. What a colossal ass! I truly think John's idea could have worked (and not just because we?re in love), but she sucked any tiny bit of humor or sense out of it. What a shrew. I hope her director boyfriend is getting plenty of shit for her citing his credentials. That is, if he hasn't already gotten shit for her obligatory website with glamour shots kristen's page.

Yay for no reward!

Angie fell in my regard for her Donny lust. But gained it back a little with her coolheaded annihilation of Kristen in the BR.

I am officially over my unfathomable Bren love. Now he just seems like a creep.

Cragi seems like he could be good. But he needs to speak up more. At all, I mean.

Erin and her incredibly malleable mouth must go next, please.

Still hate Michael.

I'm more and more convinced Trumpy is just playing office and works for Carolyn and George. "I'm on the way to my helicopter for a very important business trip." Hee.

Me too..hate her so much. But after the debacle that was the TAR finale, it was nice to see Kristen get bounced off a reality show. Again. The fact that Trump let Magna off the hook for making the least sexy homoerotic commercial ever speaks volumes abou how much Kristen sucks. Erin's day will come, I guarentee it.

That was a fun ep, given how stone clueless both teams were. The only other thing I remember is one of the guys grinning at the commercial, and Carolyn slowly shaking her head. I hate to say it, but I feel Carolyn this time. Y'think George will take this as an excuse to leave on another mission?

OK, I only bits and pieces of the the first episodes, but know I'm on the John love train. Competence can be so sexy. I wish Kristin has a sense of humor to execute his idea or he worked with some more marketing types to expand it. It wouldn't have been wonderful but it would have sucked as the final project. Well at least Krisitn didn't blink as much as Maria.

Also sort of on the Bren wagon. His idea wasn't great but I liked him lecutirng Michael in the beginning, and turning on the charm to the actress. He also seemed willing to take responsiblity for the idea and I think explained well about his team needing to take a risk.

I think that Trump has been waiting for a moment when both lost to generate some excitement. thI was also thinking that if Verna hadn't walked out, Donald would fired a person from each team. Because Erin was awfully disorganized. Yes the model was a prima dona, still you don't keep.

I was also wondering about the real Dove commericial. It certainly wasn't a 30 second movie. Also I'd think is was for make up or something.

And no one is exempt next week!

The idea I had last night for a commercial-while not totally radically would have at least worked was:

You open with an image of a man standing, working on something in his garage . His back is to the camera, but you could tell he's a bit hot and sweaty. Suddenly you see a female hand pinching him on the butt. He turns around and sees his wife/so wearing a towel and a mischevious smile. He chases her up to the bathroom, with lots giggling going on, and perhaps we see the towel drop along the way. Finally they (with the man still dressed) get into to shower, which is already running, and as his shirt flies merrily over the top of the shower curtain, there's a voice over, "Get Fresh with Dove."

Well, that was pretty awesome, especially after the bleh episode last week.

I can't believe both teams sucked so badly. Magna's came off like a very bad porno. And how did they think it would air? After the Janet Jackson thing, there would have been no way that commerical would have worked. Oh Magna, you silly idiots.

At the same time how did Networth fuck up so badly. I thought John and Craig might have been on to something, if they had the actor rub his chest (he could be running shirtless) instead of his face. But it came off horribly. Oh right, it was because Kristen fucked it up.

Kristen: I'm glad she's gone. Even though I supported her over Brian, she was a lesser of two evils. So, she still was evil. So since her "boyfriend" is a director, she thought she was all that. The commerical sucked, she treated everyone like crap, and she tried to throw the blame on Audrey. Not cool and I'm glad she got fired.

Erin: I don't like her, but I'm starting to think she is smarter then I'm giving her credit for. She was well spoken in the boardroom and brought it two good people: one who helped screw up the task and another that Trump doesn't like. Good job, but I could live without her having an orgasim while washing that model.

John and Craig: I think both might have a winning idea, if executed right. My love for John has increased and now Craig finally has done something. With this and them both playing basketball last week, are they friends now? Sort of like Troy and Kwame, only a bit meaner (when John has to be), and more silent (yes, I never knew it was possible). So, I'm rooting for both of them.

Audrey: Love her too and I still would like her to be my girlfriend. She saw how bad Kristen was making this commerical and when Kristen tried to point finger, Audrey took her out. Go Audrey! Don't take shit from anyone, especially Kristen.

Lets look at the phenomenons known as Michael and Bren: Despite being completely right on the money, Michael is still an ass and I hate him. Despite being completely wrong and dirty, I still like Bren. Weird, huh?

Tara and Kendra: Flighting under the radar and I'm still liking them. Lets hope they prove to be great.

Tana: Got to give you credit for not joining Kristen in railroading Audrey.

The rest: I still don't know what to make of Alex and Stephanie, Angie was amusing as usual, and Chris seems to hate gay people. Anything else?

Well, it was a great episode. First time, both teams did that horribly in history of this show, Trump was right on the money with his comments and firings, George and Carolyn rocked (especially loved Carolyn's first reaction to the Magna commerical), and all the people I like (John, Audrey, etc) continue to go up, instead of down (see last season). Better luck next time guys and remember to keep Bren and Erin away from the cucumbers.

Calling all actors who post here. Why did this actress feel the need to be supervised? What happens when an actor is left alone? Do they play with matches? Do the run around with scissors? That was just odd.

On the subject of that actress, does anyone recognize her? Mrs. tone thinks she has seen her from somewhere, but can’t quite pin it. Anyone have a better memory?

Mr. Donald “I have to follow the rules” Trump is so full of shit. So Donny Douchebag said they both suck, and he couldn’t pick a winner. All The Donald had to do was push him a little more and force him to choose, so a winning team could be declared, instead of bring both teams in. I know they were both bad, but clearly Cucumber Porn sucked more. No pun intended.

Once there was dissention within the ranks of Net Worth, I knew one of them was a goner. The Donald hates traitors within a team. Magma showed solidarity despite promoting Cucumber Porn.

I guess everyone is fair game for The Donald next week, as no one is exempt.

ETA - Promoted to Channel Surfer. Woo-hoo!

Erin has obviously watched the past seasons and realized what a hard-on Trump has for "loyalty." First chance she got, she threw it right at him and he fell right for it.

What a weird boardroom. First of all, I don't think the Apprenti got what Trump was telling them about the offensiveness of the Magna ad. He was clearly offended by the cucumber action and the soft-porn vibe of the whole thing, NOT the homosexual couple at the end. He also clearly thought it was a stupid idea to use homosexuality in a mass marketing ad - but he was criticizing the stupid concept, not homosexuality in and of itself.

So what do the Apprenti (Bren, looking at you, here) involved do? Natter on in a stupid and idiotic way about that not being their personal morality, blah, blah, or nod in agreement with what's being said. Damn, I nearly threw my coffee at the television.

And Chris will probably not be The Apprentice, but he might do well as a contract killer. He's so creepy. What's up with the "needle Chris until he blows" game Carolyn and Trump are playing? That "Are you a homosexual" question that Trump threw in was a huge WTF moment. Huh? Are they trying to see how many episodes it takes before he starts talking to his special invisible friend, or something?

ETA: Whoops, double post. My bad!

ITA on the "actress". I mean seriously, what was the team keeping her from? Bitch, you're doing a commercial on TA, look at your career. It's not like you're in demand.

I'm right there with Bubbacat in wanting someone from each team get fired this week. Actually, I'm all for the firing squad approach: open "fire" on all of them and see who's still standing by random chance.

This episode was almost painful to watch, but it was also totally predictable from even before the opening credits.

I was also going to write that both commercials reminded me of commericials shown in Europe but Tuskaloose beat me to it. These are the kind of commericals that would probably be shown just before a David Hasselhoff concert.

Beginning of the episode: Loved Bren telling off Michael, personally I would have done it in private but maybe he felt that Mike needed to be humiliated in front of his teammates and the other team.

The task: Kristen's rationale for appointing herself as Project Manager reminded me of Verna's reasoning for choosing their Triple Cheeseburger; I eat at fast food restaurants so that makes me an expert; My boyfriend directs films, I've seen him on the set so that makes me an expert. Networth had the better idea, their execution was very off, as someone else pointed out previously. Magna's idea was atrocious, there's a difference between thinking big and thinking stupid.

The boardroom: That had to be one of the funniest boardrooms ever, Chris pointed out a little too enthusiastically that he's not a homosexual, prejudiced much? Audrey is a tiger in the boardroom, surprisingly Erin is a good talker. I was expecting Mike to get fired before Kristen but hey I'm not complaining.

Why do I feel cheated?

This whole season has me feeling detached. Kristen was a bitch and obviously clueless. But am I wrong to have wanted to see her demise built up to a really heated boardroom firing? These people all seem to sit around and nod their heads to everything that is suggested, but no one speaks up! So the PM's get fired, pm's who really had no shot anyway, and we wait for the fat to be stripped away from each team. Great for the candidates - really boring for us.

Erin was a horrible PM. Horrible. Seductively washing the stomache of the model, agreeing with the cucumber concept, being disorganized. Just terrible. And appears to have issues with women. Shes schmoopy with the guys, flopping on beds in her mini skirt and tearing up, but a deer in the headlights when it comes to handling women.

Both teams just copmpletely missed the point of the task and the product. Cucumber, green tea ......relaxation. Hence the "cool" as in "stay cool, stay calm." Just did not product or market research. And the ideas? Both sucked. Bren's was risky, and okay I can sort of stand by that, but Erin ultimately okayed that campaign and proved what bad judgement she had.

How dare Trump ask Chris if he were a homosexual. From reading his bio, Chris comes from a religeous (Mormon?) background. I think Trump intentionally was trying to incite Chris, and that's just bullshit.

Angie continues to look more and more unraveled each episode. That girl will have a meltdown before mid season.

The question on my mind is...where the hell did they get such an inept, boring group of people? These people give awful boardroom. No creativity, no "tyype a" personality, no drive. Which means no drama. I don't care about nay of these people anymore. Stephanie refuses to accept any level of responsibility, Chris is just waiting to implode, Tara...do we ever see her? Audrey, well spoken last night when defending herself against Kristen's weak arguments, looks like she can be continuously whiny and needy. Erin just blabbers about how her team is her "family" and then makes a bigger ass of herself by using Will and Grace as an example of how homosexuality can, in fact, capture a broad audience. Erin, sweetie, here's the thing. YOUR TARGET MARKET WAS WOMEN. The woman in the ad ends up disgruntled in the end because the guy wasn't into her. That? will not leave a positive brand impression with your target market of WOMEN. Jesus...all of em. Just absolutely no thinking things through. Someone has one idea, they go with it, PM gets fired. No debate, no research, no discussion. These people are all just lazy and boring.

I actually thought the porn idea was the better idea. Donnie was going for outside the box, and while the cucumber dealie was horrible, it was, at least, somewhat what the guy asked for. Maybe it could have worked if it had been toned down. The racing idea, even with the best of execution, would have just faded away, 'cause it was a mildly funny, ultimately boring idea.

Also, I totally agree with Trump's firing. Magna only fell down on the idea; other than that, they seemed to have their shit together. Net Worth: failure all around.

What on earth made these people think that the Apprenti could write, direct, and shoot a 30 second mini movie in a day? Donnie Deutsch couldn't use either commercial? Well, duh! People go to school for many years to learn marketing, advertising, and filmmaking -- you're shocked and disappointed that a bunch of lawyers, real estate agents, and tech company owners couldn't master it in a day? Fool. Erin had exactly the right idea in the Boardroom: Mr. Trump, I don't know how to make a commercial; you're right, it sucked; but as a leadership issue, we came in on budget, on time, and had no meltdowns.

The conversation with furious actress should have gone like this (per the little thought bubble over Erin's head): You're right, we mistreated you by not being here for you. Our bad. You can go home now. I'm sure there are 500 just as attractive young actress-wannabees within a one block radius of where I'm standing. Go back to your day job at Starbucks.

danahubby observed, correctly, I think, that had the Apprenti been a little bit older, that actress would have been so gone. That said, bwah! to Bren's "I've been married 9 years, I can handle a pissed off female." And he did. Played her like a one-string violin. And then was man enough to accept responsibility for the awful ad idea. danahubby came through the living room when they were screening the commercials and asked, "What was the task? Make a porno movie." I mean, even the music was bam-chicka-bam.

And Kristen gets the pants-on-fire award for the week. Camera interview: "I just put Audrey with Tana so she thinks she has something to do and to keep her out of my hair." Boardroom: "Mr. Trump, I put Audrey in charge of the models and she screwed it up! It's Audrey's fault! Those models, they were so unhappy and uncooperative!" Trump: "Well, who was the director?" "Ummmm."

I did crack up when John and Silent Craig pitched the idea. It could have been funny if done correctly.

eta: If you are going to stay with the fiction that this is a 16-week job interview, you should consider that asking someone's sexual preference is inappropriate. And illegal.

You know, my wife is a stockbroker, but you don't see me trying to manage my friends' and family's money. Argh! Good-bye you insufferable fame whore.

Well, really. Every casting director in the city just marked you down as "difficult," sweetie. Well played. And for a girl looking to do commercial work...not that pretty in the first place. Bren should have kept his powder dry for a situation where it was actually needed.

Chris scares me.

I thought Magna's vegetable porn w/ a twist was the perfect commercial for the Dove Body Wash.

After I felt I so dirty after watching it that I needed to shower.

That .... was awesome. Both commercials did suck. The name of the body wash was "cool moisture" so all they had to do was emphasize that part of the product. Although, I have to say that aside from the production values, the actual Dove commercial wasn't that much better in my opinion. They made a big deal of the Net Worth commercial having the guy put it on his face, but in the actual Dove commercial all they showed was faces. It also seems to me after seeing that commercial that what Dove body wash does, is remove your makeup and take your hair down from its hairstyle. I could get that same effect if I just showered in plain water.

Can someone explain what was up when they were all in the boardroom and George asked Chris to say something and he went off about homosexuals and then ... did Trump say "Are you not a homosexual?" And they showed other Apprentices rolling their eyes and stuff when he said he wasn't. Was Trump trying to out him on TV? What was going on there? I felt like I wasn't getting what was going on there because then they just abruptly moved on. Did I misunderstand what Trump asked him?

I loved the look on Kristen's face when she was being told she sucked. She clearly thought she was going to be an awesome director and that her commercial would be awesome no matter what, just because it was her making it. She looked absolutely crushed when she was told it was awful. I felt sorry for 1/100th of a second but then I remembered that she deserves to be told that because it's true and she could probably use a little bit of that if she's so unused to it.

Did anyone else have a problem with Bren's snotty comment about the homosexuality issue being "against his morals" but apparently his morals are flexible enough to condone exploiting it for money?
I loathe him and really wish he'd been the one to get fired last night. That, combined with his "I know how to deal with an angry woman" condescendathon have made him my Omarosa of the season.

The reason why the actress was pissed was obvious to me.

Because she was at the shoot for so long, she was missing out on a whole afternoon's worth of tips at the diner.

I loved the double loss. A double firing was so much in order, much more so than last year. This was a legitimately produced Shocking! Boardroom!

One thing that had me scratching my head: Was the product supposed to be used by men? Or the ads aimed at men? Is Dove trying to break into the male product market? Is that why a male "jogger" was using it, and they thought two guys walking off would be "clever?" I couldn't fathom the focus on men -- unless the men somehow managed to dominate the planning process and they simply assumed guys should be the focus. If it's supposed to be gender-neutral, they totally missed the boat there, too.

Poor Carolyn. Poor George. I felt their pain, because oh, my, word. Those commercials were just awful, especially in terms of production values. The Cucumber Special looked cheap/homemade and the other one had 'way too much going on (which I think was a point John made in the boardroom). Did we ever hear a budget figure?

Enough cannot be said about the those trainwrecks of commercials. I agree with MyNameisKen when he said:Give credit to Magna for at least doing something outrageous and different. NetWorth's idea was based upon a very safe joke that was only mildly amusing in the first place.

ITA. She was terrible, but she read Trump right in the BR. She knew to not throw one of her own teammates under the bus. Therefore, they kept unified, and no one got fired.

Well, halfway through this episode I was feeling so torn. I didn't want Magna to win, because their idea was so ridiculous (mock gay vegetable porn?). Also, completely inappropriate considering the target market and the company that they were pitching to. At the same time, I wanted Kristen to be fired, because she took a pretty decent idea and totally screwed it up. I figured I was bound to be disappointed in some respect.

Then, hooray, both teams lost, and Kristen was fired. Perfect ending.

Kristen was about as bad or worse as Brian from a couple episodes ago. I thought she sent John off to work on music because she knows he's the natural leader of the group, and she didn't want to share the spotlight. She wanted to do everything herself so that she could get all the credit. And ITA that she has no sense of humor.


The dumb thing about that is that Bren basically said that he did something against his moral values to win a task. Whatever Trump thinks about homosexuality, I don't think he will view lack of integrity very well.

I didn't think it possible to do worse than Raj and Co.'s "NYC Is The Home of Terror - Come March With Us!" campaign from last season, but damn if both groups of weasels pulled it off last night!

Miss Actress (who, for lack of a better name, will be known to me as Snobby McBitchface), I didn't get the memo: when did you become Meryl Streep? You still were paid, correct? Shut it, then.

Will & Grace, last time I checked, don't use mastubatory vegetable scenes in their episodes. Just sayin', Erin.

Speaking of Erin, she should have been brought up on sexual harassment charges for the way she was fondling the model. There weren't enough sponges there to soak up all of her extra drool. But, hey, she kept her team together!

Love how George baited Chris to say something in the Boardroom - he was virtually edited out of the entire show, and you get the feeling that he starts seething on the way to the BR like a volcano, then BLAMMO! Homophobe! His eventual PM assignment (and subsequent firing) will easily be the highlight of Season Three.

Also gained a very small amount of respect for Donnie when he told both groups how much they sucked. He was right on target. In other news, they are ice skating in Hell.

I wonder if the teams could have hired directors, producers, etc., for their commercials. Not only did the concepts suck, but the lighting was bad and the sets looked amateurish.

I, too, was hoping for a double firing since both teams did lose.

I never notice Chris until his crazy outbursts in the boardroom. I wonder what we're not seeing.

The cucumber porn idea was horrible for the product they were trying to promote. Net Worth's idea was safe and not very innovative, but horribly executed by bitchface Kristen.
I was hoping two people would be fired, but am glad that Kristen's gone.

I did laugh when Trumpy and Carolyn did damage control at the end by showing the real Dove commercial along with an "enter to win" deal. Those must have been some really pissed off Dove executives!
However, didn't Donny Nipples tell them to think big, think "outside the box" (how I hate that expression!)? The real commercial didn't live up to those guidelines either. Just a bunch of women in heavy make up looking clean...

I thought hiring a director would have been an excellent idea. Comedy is hard to do (even if you HAVE a sense of humor), and both teams were going for humor. (At least, I think the cucumber porn was supposed to be funny. Were they serious?)

Given that Erin had Michael, among a few other strong A personalities, I give her the argument that the team held together. For whatever reason, they decided to go as meek lambs under Erin's leadership and I do think that is part the judgment of each project manager in the boardroom.

The production values seemed better in Magna, while NetSmarts looks like something slapped together truly by high school kids on a dime.

Porn-better production
Runner-rotten production

I'll take door #1

That said, Erin and her Kewpie doll face has got to go, my god, does she have a key in her back as well? I don’t see any strings, then again, with all that hair…

Oh. How many "step up to the plates" and "out of the boxes" were we tormented with? I lost count once Nipples delivered the doomed “outtatheboxasifI’mageniusandguidingyou” thought.

I'm not sure I understood Magna's ad. Was the chef supposed to be really dirty and sweaty or something? If so, he should have used the body wash before cooking. Plus, in the last shot the actors just looked so awkward. I think the guy playing the waiter was too tall for it to work.

Net Worth's concept was pretty good and could have been really funny if directed correctly. Kristen's biggest mistake was sending John and Craig away.

I loved having no reward and both teams in the boardroom. It was pretty awesome.

What he tells the apprenti to do, and what his own company would do are two very different things..

Burnett wants these guys to do crazy stuff since it makes for better TV when it flames out. Since nothing these people did had any chance of ever being the "real" Dove spot, he was trying to push them as far as he could. Nipples just plays along and enjoys the free exposure.

I refuse to watch this season but if I'm reading threads correctly.. there's two homophobes named Chris in a row? Last season and this ? Good casting Burnett!

Is there something wrong with asking a person if they're a homosexual? It's not like he asked him if he ate kittens. Or if he's still beating his wife. Is that really a horrific question to ask in 2005?

I wondered that too. Magna's commercial seemed aimed at gay guys? Girls with gay guy friends? Produce managers?

Networth's mini-movie (hehehehe) focused on a male jogger. They had other females there. Why focus on the guy? So confusing and so funny.

Did both teams think they were advertising Axe?

This episode was very...entertaining. I could hardly breathe during some parts, I was laughing so hard.

Did Erin honestly think that their commercial would be able to pass the FCC's post Janet Jackson guidelines? They would probaby try to change the vegetable to something benign like peas or radishes.

Didnt Carolyn say at one point during the ep. that they were a good(smart?) group? The look on her face when she saw those commercials. Hee

The Donnie Deutch lovefest in the beginning was absolutely vomit inducing. "Oh my God! Donnie Deutch. THE Donnie Deutch. Now I can die happy." Geez Audrey, get over it. The man inherited an ad agency. He's not all that.

I, for one, was heartbroken over lack of reward for the winning team.

I would have loved to see Magna's commercial aired on a big screen in Times Square.

I wish I had known the stuff ahd green tea and cucumbers before I watched those commercials. I was trying to figure out why Magna included a blatant, unnecessary teabaggin' reference.
Homosexuals + Cucumbers + teabags = Dove Body Wash? HOW? Huh? What?

Once again I hate these advertising and marketing tasks. What exactly did they tell these people to do. When I think bodywash I think the key demographic is 18-34 year old women. Did they specifically tell them to target men who watch Will and Grace? If so then I can kind of understand the suck, but if they decided on their own to target men then they're stupidheads.