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Blondie
And of course, I agree, it is nice if a woman is sweet, soft, friendly, unambitious, and non-confrontational.


Not what I said at all, sll.

You are right about most of the ladies we've seen so far on TA, IMHO. I'm thinking that the really great businesswomen who are confident, competent, and Not raging famewhores are not on the show because they are busy being great businesswomen and don't need to be on TV.
EaglesNest
Leezard said:

Consider your audience. Dove is not going to like porn, but Donny might have.


And Tegan Jovanka touched on something way back on page 14 regarding mud wrestling, leading me to realize that the commercial that would have won this things hands down, at least in Donny's mind, couldn't be more obvious -- two women "mud" wrestling....

WITH DOVE CUCUMBER BODY WASH!
lostcawz
And I'm really not sure how you classify 2 fully clothed men walking out of a room together as sex, but a naked woman alone in the shower having orgasms with her shampoo bottle as not sex.


Unless I missed something, I don't think anyone has said that. The sex part of the cucumber ad was the overt fondling of the cucumber coupled with the porno music and porno video quality (so I've heard as I wouldn't know about such things). I've always been surprised that the orgasm commercials worked, but apparently they do as we all know exactly what they're talking about.
Tegan Jovanka
hicks964, they were also criticized for using body wash on the face. It just makes me wonder yet again if Douchebag really had ANY idea what Dove wanted. Their godawful commercial was nothing like his supposed vision of Dove.

Unless I missed something, I don't think anyone has said that.


Yes, someone did say this, a few pages back. That two men "hanging on to each other" as they left the room was "sex", but that a woman naked in the shower having orgasms was just "sexiness". I still can't figure that out.

Picking Kelly in season two was a lot like being forced to pick one of the two crappy commercials this week. I'm trying to erase that season from my memory when thinking about what might happen in this season.


Not to go on a season 2 jag, but I really did think that Kelly was far more qualified and did a much better job than most of the toerags in that abysmal season. It's just that he had such a bitchy, bitter personality. I had no problem rooting for Kelly to win, mainly because that job is really not a "win" anyway, and I think that he is probably going to play a lot of mental sabotage which will hopefully cause Trump some strife (and anything that causes Trump strife can't be bad). And he was more likeable than usual in the finale, in spite of the vile way that the producers treated Jen.

Anyway, I'm just shocked that Bren is 32. I thought "he must have had a hard life", but then I found out how rich his parents are. So, whatever happened, he does not look 32. Barely even 42. He desperately needs a "Queer Eye for The Ambivalent Moral Values Barrister" makeover. Oh, and he needs to start dressing like a grown man instead of Howdy Doody.
Blondie
He desperately needs a "Queer Eye for The Ambivalent Moral Values Barrister" makeover. Oh, and he needs to start dressing like a grown man instead of Howdy Doody.


Now, That's Funny, y'all....I don't care who you are! (tm Larry, the Cable Guy)
linewalker
From the recap:
"So…I'm the only one whose mind went straight to tea-bagging? Okay then." -- Sars

Don't worry, Sars; you're not the only one. Not that I should be admitting that publicly...
girlnextdoor
I think we've pummeled the Soap Dopes to death. I'm looking forward to tomorrow night's episode. Hoping it will be a breath of fresh "Air(stream of consciousness)"
EMPulse
A word on "fake-running":

What was up with those models? You would think that living in New York, one might run every now and then, or at least get to a gym and experience a treadmill. It's a good thing none of them were in lower Manhattan on 9/11 -- they couldn't run to save their lives.
rosemeyer
Don't worry, Sars; you're not the only one. Not that I should be admitting that publicly...


ANYBODY else want to admit to googling that and wishing they hadnt?

hee
ConanGrammarian
ANYBODY else want to admit to googling that and wishing they hadnt?


I googled (well, yahooed actually). And...EWWWW!
IAmGladys
ANYBODY else want to admit to googling that and wishing they hadnt?


I googled (well, yahooed actually). And...EWWWW!


It could be worse--I actually KNEW without even HAVING to Google. And also, eeewwww.
zenner
I was afraid to google it. Other people use this computer. Anyone want to enlighten a coward?

Back to business:

Be a man, dammit! What do we have to do, show you a cucumber?


and

You know what I think about the box.


would make great T-shirt quotes...

It always amazes me that the surpassing dumbness of Trump & Co. can be transformed by Mlle. Alli to such great snark. Pity we have to watch the show to appreciate it.
rosemeyer
TO ENLIGHEN THE coward


Tea bagging
is when a man proceeds to dunk his testicles into his partner's mouth. ...
thuganomics85
Whoops. I got tea bagging confused with tossing the salad.

Basically, I thought the same thing too when I saw the tea in the commerical. Combine that with the cucumber and I felt very dirty.
whycantispeak
Of course, inability to offend anyone is not the standard by which commercials have ever been judged,


I must humbly and respectfully disagree with this notion. Why it wasn't even two weeks ago that we saw all the major corporations in kahoots with the best ad agencies, spending large chunks of money, all in an effort to produce the blandest commericials that would hopefully not offend a single soul and bring the wrath of the FCC down on them.

The Super Bowl is the biggest day of the year for commercials. The whole focus this year was to be out of the box, while not being so out of the box as to offend anyone. For the most part.

And judging by the fact that even a mildly racy commercial like the one for godaddy.com, which got complaints for just mentioning the term "wardrobe malfunction", was deemed too offensive (by nitwits, I know), maybe it is not out of turn to suggest that corporate America would see Magna's commercial as unairable. And that maybe inoffensive is the way to go.

The real Dove commercial that aired last Thursday, while seemingly arty, innovative and out of the box, was actually rather tepid and certainly inoffensive.

Unfortunately we are in a time now where advertisers need to tow an inoffensive line. So, nowadays, inability to offend is a standard for commercials to live up to.
ghettofabman
OK, after watching the footage on Yahoo.com, it has come to my realization that ALEX was the one behind the direction for the vegetable gay porn commercial. In the words of Alanis, "Isn't that ironic, don't ya think??"
Indrani
Ok, I will also admit to googling and wishing I hadn't!
TieBreaker
whycantispeak mentioned that the real Dove commercial was shown in the end teaser. It was worse than the ones the Apprenti did. What in the hell was Miss Piggy in it for? Some sort of allusion to Trump? Other than that , it had no relation to Dove Cool Moisture as a product you might want to try for its presumed total body orgasmic refreshment, or to slither around on your lover's sweat and be cleansed at the same time , or something. It was nothing.

As I may have said before, the selection process for this show must be the same as the process for the American Idol. Find a bunch of people who are incapable of making it to the majors AND who are unattractive psychos, throw them together in a stressful situation, watch them behave like animals, bring out all their bad qualities
and slowly put them in the street.
Why do we watch this show? Because we are sadistic m-f, and that's the way we like it.
WinCan
whycantispeak mentioned that the real Dove commercial was shown in the end teaser. It was worse than the ones the Apprenti did. What in the hell was Miss Piggy in it for?

There must have been several versions of the Dove teaser, because the one I saw (in Canada) did not have Miss Piggy in it. I don't recall all the specifics, but I believe there were flowers, and water drops dripping off petals (in slow mo). The commerical seemed to focus on the ingredients of the product, rather than its uses. Did anyone else see this version, or did I somehow insert the "Dove" namebrand into a commerical about some new air-freshener?
LostAngeles
Not to drag it off topic, but Dove has been running a "real beauty" campaign lately. If you noticed in the post-Apprentice commercial, all the women were dressed up and made up and then in comfortable clothing without (apparently, since we know you can't be make-up free on film) any make-up on. The message is "Wash with Dove and you won't need make-up to be beautiful."

As to Miss Piggy in particular, they've been using other fictional women in their campaign, or in L.A. they are at least. At the corner of Sunset and Parkman/Silver Lake there's a wall plastered with before/afters of Jane Jetson, Wilma Flinstone, and Velma from Scooby Doo. Down Sunset from Ameoba Records towards Sunset/Vine is a very large poster of Marge Simpson with her hair down in a very "Pantene commercial" way.

So that's why.
thuganomics85
Dove's real commerial should have had Miss Piggy helping Kermit with washing a cucumber. That would have been funny as hell.
goobaletta
So I go to my mailbox. Along with my Latina and Body + Soul magazines was a sample of the cucumber dick soap. It smells quite nice. I got no porn or use without rinsing vibe from it at all.

Eejits.
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