Spoilery!

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I'm curious, is there always, at least physically somewhere a #6 that loves Baltar? And does Baltar ever find out if what's in his head is a chip or not?

re: various episodes

About Baltar's potential "chip" in his head? -- As of the 11th episode, no... Baltar doesn't find about a chip, or lack thereof. Actually, and this is a HUGE spoiler so cover your eyes even here if you have regrets, he comes to think (with her help) that she is some kind of manifestation of God.

As for physical #6s, even in the first few we see one on Caprica, right? Well we see a lot more of them, including eventually one on Galactica itself.

I trust that the above isn't TOO spoilery, striking a nice balance because the "why" and "how" of the above items will still be fun to find out. Until you guy pummel it out of those of us who either live in the UK or have lovely people who sent us recordings.

Right, and the one on Galactica, is that the one that loves Baltar?

re: various episodes (sorry, like last post it's too mixed a question being answered to associate a specific episode)

All of the Number Sixes seem to be of a single mind--at least more so than the multiple Boomers. Their viewpoints seem to largely be the same, and I think we can conclude that if one really loves Baltar, they all do, but similarly they could all be faking it. We ARE given at least one hint though that one of the Sixes on Caprica is somewhat distressed by Caprica Boomer's apparent real connection to that Helo guy. So that supports the idea that there ain't no real love. Then again, we also hear at least from one other Cylon a pretty strong confirmation that the Bots have some individual fear of death, assuming they can't confirm that their consciousness is being beamed back to Cylon Central, wherever that is. So that suggests SOME individuality, just as CapricaBoomer's behavior eventually does.

What's not so clear is what the connection between the Six in Baltar's head and the physical ones is. We don't know if she's real or a figment. If so, we don't know if she's still part of whatever collective consciousness the Cylons have. We don't even strictly know which side she's on. She could be a manifestation of God, a chip, a psychic projection, or just Baltar's crazy guilt-driven mind.

Physically, does Baltar ever have sex again with a Number Six? No.

Man, poor Baltar. That'd make all the backstabbing worth it.

Best thread title. EVER.

Spoilers for Episode 12.

Well then, I guess my hopes for no Apollo/Starbuck romance were absolutely dashed into the dirt. And it seems like the Prez has lost touch with reality, message from the gods or not.

Spoilers for episode 12

Quite frankly, the latest ep rocked hardcore IMO.

TBH, I totally expected Apollo/Starbuck and I really don't mind it at all. In fact, I'm going to try and encourage the spirit of honesty and sharing in this fabulous, shiny new forum by admitting that I actually like the idea of them together. After all, someone has to start making babies, and I get the feeling that the two of them would produce such pretty offspring that it'd be a shame not to have them screw for real at some point.

I gave a little cheer when the much discussed Whiteboard of Life made a cameo appearance. I noticed the numbers on it seemed to read 87,000ish, but I can't remember how many people we had at the end of '33'. Still, it's nice that it was there. See ya next time we need an infusion of tragedy/cautious hope for the future!

SPOILERS for episode 12 below.

I think the numbers read 47,500 or so, which pretty much tallies with 33. Perhaps a little more people, but I can;t be sure.

This episode was too, too fabulous. As always, I'm all about the Baltar/Six love (theirloveissopsychotic). The duel conversation Baltar was having with Six and Laura was very nice writing. Baltar didn't come over as quite as insane as he has done in the past when he's wittering to Six with other people present.

And his damn near compassionate conversation and suggestion to Boomer was lovely too. The girl that plays Boomer is growing on me. But did she miss on purpose? Is she even allowed by her Cylon subconscious to do that? Poor Boomer. And poor president Laura. She's totally flipping out.

Bad things?
Six's top/skirt combo was fugly.

1-12 Kobal's Last Gleaming, Part 1

Way too dense and serious an episode to spout about without deep thought so I am going for the shallow... that moment when Baltar was simultaneously addressed by the Pres and Six was comedy gold.

laurabeth, I promise it took me ten minutes to compose the above so great minds and all...

Ep. 12 spoilers.

Did anyone else connect the possibility of the Cylon raider jumping all the way back to Caprica with the possibility that they might pick up Helo en route? Or am I just being overly hopeful that they might find a way to keep him alive AND get his ass off Caprica.

Again with the crazy Baltar love. He's nuts, he's a creep, he's damn entertaining.

One thing that has been bugging me a little is that I get the feeling Jamie Bamber hasn't quite decided on how to play Apollo. Initially he was very softly spoken, didn't get angry (not even when Starbuck confessed to unfairly passing Zak on basic flight) and seemed very rational and level headed. Now all of a sudden he's shouting at anything that moves and acting like a jerk.

This next bit is more speculation really, but it's speculation based on the OS so it might possibly be a tiny tad spoilery.

Do I rightly remember that in the Original BG the gods of Kobol gave Apollo the location of Earth? I just thought it might tie in with this arrow of Apollo stuff.

I always want to be as completely spoiled as possible--on the assumption that there are others out there like me who live in the US, you might be interested in the ep summaries at the Sky One website in the UK (I'm not sure the protocol of whether it's ok to link to directly from here). Just go to their site, find BSG, and look around.

The site's summaries have pretty basic plot information from all the eps that have aired in the UK so far, and it certainly doesn't duplicate what we'll be getting from our very own recapper, but for your average "what's going to happen, who's screwing whom, and who's going to live or die," for a given ep, it's got it covered.

Spoilers for Episode 12 - look away now

Holy Hannah. I guess the love that dare not speak it's name is a racing certainty now. I admit to be peeved, but I'll live with it. Gods, how good was the opening sequence ? I'm really feeling for Boomer in all her incarnations.

I'm of mixed opinions as to whether Believably Bonkers Baltar wanted CapricaBoomer to off herself or not.

I think the Prez has been smoking too much weed, but I completely understand how Starbuck would buy into the mission. IMO Thrace needs a cause.

Goodness, this episode was *so* good. I need more time to think about it. And yes, Melk, I'm totally hoping that Helo will be rescued along with Apollo's protuberence, I mean arrow.

Spoliers for Ep 12.

I'm too tired for proper thinking at the moment but I'm with Melk and kissmychakram on picking up Helo from Caprica. I mentioned that to my Mum as we were watching.

One quick question, regarding the sex in the beginning was it Apollo in the shot? I thought his hair was short but it was very quick cutting and I was trying to figure out who the woman was!

Spoilers for 12

Good gods, the opening was fabulous, wasn't it? I think they were going for a kind of microcosm of human behavious. Violence, sex, death. All set to cool music.

NikkiJ, the person gettin' down with Starbuck in the opening sequence was Baltar. Unfortunately she whispered the name "Lee" (Apollo) at a...critical point, shall we say? Which did not make for a happy man, and explains the drunkenly obnoxious behaviour he displays towards Apollo & Starbuck later on.

Oh yeah, Starbuck's totally meeting Helo on Caprica. Or at least they just miss each other by a cat's whisker.

I've been thinking about Galactica!Boomer. If she killed herself would her consciousness transfer into GoodCaprica!Boomer? Or one of the other NotGood!Boomers? And would they then be able to trace the position of the ship/amouunt of weaponry/people's character flaws? That would be a Very Bad Thing.

1x12 teaser: "Lee!"

BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAHHH!

Funniest line (word?) in the show to date - and in one of the grimmest episodes, at that.

What I want to know is: if Boomer (in both delicious flavours) and Baltar are technically the bad guys, how come I also find them the most sympathetic characters? Does that make me a bad person? ;)

Poor Boomer. The most gorgeous woman on the show, and every week they find a new horrible way to beat the shit out of her! What's next, spray her face with acid?

Ep 12 stuff.

laurabeth I got (eventually) who was actually shagging. I was just checking if anyone else had seen short hair or if I'm going mad. I should have phrased the question better but it's very late!

Regarding Episode 12:



I've been running this back and forth, freezing at appropriate moments. Shut up.

Actually, whilst it is Baltar that she is thrashing about with, I think, after careful study, the person we see, until the denoument, is the one she is imagining. Jamie Bamber has lovely shoulders. And other naked bits.

Edited because computers hate me.

He's just downright yummy. I highly recommend Horatio Hornblower DVD's for more Bamber action. In a naval uniform, no less.

No. I think that's one of the better aspects of the show, they're <i>not</i> specifically bad guys. It's all about the shades of grey here. Circumstances (and sometimes programming) dictate what they do more than evil intent. Ok, less so with Baltar, but still...

And word, they need to stop beating up Boomer.

In the mini, he seemed a little pissed when Starbuck told him about Zak but mainly just surprised. He set his sights on hating his father for so long that to be confronted with the fact that someone else (whom he had feelings for especially) was more at fault for his death probably shook his Etch-A-Sketch a bit.

As for the ep, GREAT. Possibly the best one so far, if only because so many other plot threads have started to come to fruition. I'm not sure Baltar falling for Starbuck is quite so in character, given that he's a bit too narcissistic to fall in love, but I could buy that he was incredibly charmed by a girl who was even more confident than he.

Not sure I should use spoiler tags for the last ep, but since it hasn't even aired, what the hell. Given that the series is due to end with Baltar and co. possibly stuck on Kobol, Galactica likely getting attacked by that baseship, and Adama being shot by Boomer, not to mention a whole host of other unresolved threads, this show MUST be renewed.

I just wonder if it would be better (and more in keeping with the series' tone) if they didn't end up finding Earth. Though it seems pretty unlikely given the prophecy line that's becoming increasingly emphasized.

1-12: Kobol's Last Gleaming

Holy moly, what an episode. There so much in it I...have to use an ellipsis.

I'm really feeling the chemistry between JB and KS. I especially loved the look she gave him when he chewed her out for leaving him out of the loop and going to Tighe first. The progression from miniseries to this episode is really noticeable as KS emotes with her eyes so wonderfully now.

Also, mad props to the scene between Baltar and Boomer. I feel that Grace Park is sometimes underrated, as she has to switch between Caprica!Boomer and Galactica!Boomer in nearly every episode and handles it with aplomb. The look on Six's face as she realizes what Balter is telling Boomer really says everything I felt about the scene.

The quality of this episode made me squee like a fangirl. Oh wait...

ETA: Big fat word. The violins set the perfect tone.

Regarding Episode 12:



I wasn't sure it was love or even being charmed. It didn't feel coincidental that Starbuck was as unlike Six as any he was likely to find. What was great was that he was as much her tool to satisfying an itch as she was for him. He just didn't know it until she blurted out Apollo's name. His petulant response to her faux pas seemed more like bruised ego than crushed dreams to me.

Spoilers for Ep. 12

The opener was one of the best I'd ever seen! It was soooo cool. Okay, now I sound like a fangirl. I don't care!

And did anyone else think that before the embarrassing outburst, the sex was kinda hot? All sweaty and rooowwwrrrrr. I honestly don't know if it's the moral ambiguity, the Magnificent Bastard-esque hairdo, or the fact that he has more sex-type scenes than anyone else, but I am finding Baltar ridiculously hot these days.
Liked the touch that Starbuck picked up her dress at the end, to denote that it was after last weeks party. Liked the little insert of Baltar afterwards wrapping a sheet around him and taking a steadying drink whilst ignoring Six sitting beside him. (That is one example IMO of a little scene that would be cut for time in another show, but here is kept in because it adds to the atmos.)

Apollo and Starbuck. Yeeeuuch. Why?? I can only hope that by flying off to Caprica any *vom*romantic*vom* developments between them is put off for a good while. I accept now that the producers are determined to have it some day - I just hope it's later rather than sooner. (For one thing, Apollo needs to get laid real bad by someone else first). For what it's worth, I do think that if they got together they'd make each other miserable. I mean, they punch each other, for Gods sake! Sooner or later they'd have an argument and whack!
(Incidentally, why the hell did she apologise to Lee? For shagging someone else? What's that shit about?)

I agree that it isn't love, but I do think that Baltar does genuinely like Starbuck (visiting her in hospital), and that his reaction was hurt rather then ego or dreams. I did like the way Six's face and posture were so stiff and formal afterwards- and that she didn't seem to be wearing any/as much makeup as normal. And I liked the way Starbuck was brazening it out at the card game.

I really liked the GalacticaBoomer/Baltar scene. I read it as him needing to remove the threat of a Cylon agent from Galactica but feeling really shitty about manipulating a desperate and miserable woman into shooting herself, even if it didn't take. And GalacticaBoomer shutting out Tyrol later!

So generally, WooHoo, fantastic episode!

Big fat word. Is Baltar challenged and a bit intrigued by Starbuck? Yes. Does he love her? No. The only person Baltar loves is Baltar, and his ego is so great that the thought of a woman being with him and thinking of someone else would be completely alien. Hee!



I have no problems with the Apollo/Starbuck ship per se, but there are serious issues they need to work through first before they get to that point. The biggest one being the character of Lee himself!

The dude needs to do something that's not connected to his father or to Starbuck. So far this series she's been shown to be the best pilot, the best sniper, the most trusted interrogator and tactican. Even deep down Lee seems to think she should be CAG, and if it weren't for Lee being his son, one has a sneaking suspicion Adama would as well (well, until she went AWOL anyway...).

Apollo needs to carve out his own space, his own role and stop comparing himself to those around him. He needs to grow up, and so far he hasn't. Last week he got in a bar fight. This week he got pissy and laid Starbuck (a junior officer) out. What the hell's he going to do next week?

Until he gets sorted out, a relationship would never work. They'd end up killing each other.

Coupla other thoughts about Ep. 12

I was suprised by the seriously religious overtones in this ep, but hey! if it makes the plot developments more varied (and it did) then who cares? At least its all what we would call "Pagan 'n shit". I was suprised by how quickly Laura went from steady and practical to thinking she's the - what was it? - Prophet? Chosen One? That was a bit of a sudden about turn for me. I mean, the woman suddenly lost the plot really, and I cheered Adama when he unsuprisingly refused to risk a captured enemy vessel for a wild goose chase.

Starbuck is fairly suggestible isn't she? One five minute conversation and she's disobeying orders all over the place. That's not particularly someone I'd like to have on my team, but whatever. For a start, her absence means that Galactica can’t destroy the Cylons surrounding Kobol, and so can’t get supplies or indeed rescue the ship lost on the planet. Just ‘cos Adama lied about Earth. Made her look a bit of a petulant self-righteous bitch. I mean, maybe she has a brilliant plan to do both missions in the end, but by the time she comes back Galactica could be toast, for all she knows.

I wasn't even sure what Baltar was telling Boomer. I was confused. But then we heard the gunshot and OH! Gave me chills. That’s dark stuff. (Poor old Both!Boomers.)


Then I'm going to Hell, because I adore them both. And I also think it's easily one of the best written aspects in a really well written show. Props to the actors too of course.

Dying for next week.

Ep 12 spoilers

Thank you InigoMontoya, I so glad to know I've not gone insane! I was hoping I was wrong because I'm another one who doesn't want them to get together but TV does love the old UST. I will have to watch that part again, just to make sure;-)

burping frog I'm right there with you, even if he does bring the mad. The scene with The President and Six had me cracking up, he really doesn’t want to upset Six after what happened the last time.

I think she was surprised by it herself, I think it comes from her seeing the city on Kobal. After that and the flashes of the arrow of Apollo and the priestess telling her all the other stuff I think she believed it even if the rational part of her mind didn't want to.

I feel for you, having to watch that scene over and over and over until you were sure. Must have been painful.

And oh my lord, Baltar does have Magnificent Bastard hair! MAybe they're related...

On Laura's sudden transformation into the Prophet, I think that freaky medication she's taking is affecting her a lot more than she's realised. It seems to not only be producing vision, but affecting her judgement too. Billy seems to be worried about it in particular.

Can anyone help? In the scene with Baltar, Six and Laura, what did the two women say at the exact same moment to Baltar when he said "We need a break"? Was it just "what?!", or was there something more? Trivial, but it's bugging me.

Actually, can someone tell me exactly what was going on in that scene? Considering it'll be months before the recap. Someone phoned me during the ad break and I had to mute the T.V. and then the show came back all of a sudden and this woman on the phone was still talking! I only was able to unmute when Six was all "You have to get off Galactica". So I don't even know why she smashed his head in the mirror!

Another thought......Six told him to get off Galactica not once, but twice, leading him to go on the shuttle right into a Cylon base. Was she trying to kill him off because she can see his "weakness"? Surely she must have known about the Cylons at Kobol. Or is there really some great danger on Galactica we don't know about yet? Surely killing him off would be disadvantageous to her, as then she'd be powerless. Unless she can appear to someone else after he's dead and she can continue on her work through the next patsy. But if she can do that - why hasn't she been appearing to someone else all along? Doubling her chances, so to speak? Hold on, maybe she has been appearing to someone else all along!!

Christ, this show makes my head hurt if I think about it too long.

Ep 12 spoilers

Now I'm not up on military rules and such and maybe I missed something but what gave Apollo the right to came down so hard on Starbuck?

Ok she may be a bit of a slut but if one of lady friends was sleeping with someone of questionable taste and there was a little sexual tension between us I don't think raising hell about it in public.

Starbuck smacking Lee one was one of the highlights of the ep.

Regarding Episode 12:

Baltar (getting to his feet in exasperation): Well quite frankly, I don't give flying frak whether you believe me or not all right because I've had it, I..um...I am tired of being pushed and...uh...prodded around like I'm some kind of toy. I'm not your plaything.
Prez/Six: Plaything?
Baltar: I don't work for you and...uh...quite frankly I don't have to sit anymore and take this abuse from either of you. (On Prez/Billy's exchange of looks, somewhat desperately) You either. Either in here, either in there, wherever it is, I don't need to take it.
Six: I love you Gaius
Baltar: Oh, do me a favour
Prez: I think perhaps you need a break from this.
Baltar: You're right. (Looking directly at Six) We need a break.

Using that as my jump point I hereby declare ™ on "The Magnificent Baltard"!

InigoMontoya, you're an absolute star. Oh, how I wish I could have heard him say "Oh, do me a favour".

I also thought Apollo totally out of line. I mean, it's not as if this is the first man she's slept with since Zak's death. I kept expecting her to turn around and say "What the fu-I mean frak has it got to do with you, exactly?" I know Apollo did try some blather about how Balthar is the Veep now, and I guess he meant that as such B. should be off-limits, but it was pretty weak.

I don't think their is any justification for the way Lee was acting, Starbuck isn't bonking another soldier and just because Bathar is the VP doesn't mean he should be off limits.

He should be off limits becasue hes bat shit crazy and has ugly hair.

My Episode 12 thoughts:

I agree that Apollo was out of line. It didn't really seem all that in character for him either. Earlier (admittedly before the sleeping together part came out), when Baltar won the game, Lee was pretty good-humored about it.

I think they might be trying to up the sexual tension but it seems a bit forced. There was nothing in episodes previous to me that really seemed to suit him acting like that.

I'll fanwank that he's just stressed and overworked though and therefore a bit erratic. Since he *is* kinda working two jobs and all (CAG and President's advisor), and probably had to work even harder to cover Starbuck not being able to fly for 5-odd episodes. (How much do I *love* that for once when a character is hurt, it's not immediately fixed in a few days.)

I actually rather wondered if Adama's whole "You don't lose control"/"You *have to* lose control" thing during the sparring might not hint toward a future plotline that deals with all this.

And I do hope there's serious consequences for Starbuck running off like that. I'm sure the arrow *snerk* will end up important, but going AWOL like that in their only enemy ship not too long after returning to duty. Not cool.

ETA: sorry, forgot episode tag...

Others have pointed out the greatness of the teaser, but another excellent moment was when the Cylon Raider crashed into the Raptor and the whole mission went to hell.

Baltar's screaming in the background, the total chaos of the Raptors trying to evade the Cylon fire, the schattered "windshield", the descent through the clouds...

That's some quality TV :-)

BWAH! Nuallain, you're a star!

And thank you Inigo. I just remember them both saying something at the same time, with identical looks of disbelief on their faces (As far as President Botox can move her face anyway...) It was tremendously funny anyway.

Does anyone think there was a little bit of a reset button thing going on with the Presidents\ treatment of Baltar? In Six Degrees she's all " Yeah, you are so totally the bad dude" And a few episodes later she's "Oh yeah, make him Vice-President, I totally trust him with the state secrets"

Plaything. Hee.

I was a little shocked by the blood on the wind shield it seemed more like something out of a gangster movie.

I’d forgotten about the windshield. Which is odd, as it totally freaked me out at the time. Bloodied Windshield: Craaaacckk!! Me: Aaaaarrrgh! Heh.

I too liked the chaos and the panic in the Raptor, which them all falling over each others bodies in that teeny weeny space and Balthar screaming like a little girl. Hell, I’d have been screaming too if I was a civilian in that situation. Struck me as quite realistic (which is something considering they were in space and all). Couldn’t help laughing at Balthar’s comedy screaming face, though.

However next week, if after they’ve crashed and the Raptor is virtually unscratched and one or two of them have nothing more than the obligitory broken wrist, then the realism goes out the window. I mean, they were going at a hell of a pace hurtling through the clouds, and there was nothing but mountains beneath them and the. windshield. was. cracking! Crackinnnnggg!!

Though I strongly suspect that Super!Starbuck will come triumphantly back from Caprica arrow in hand, detonate all the Cylons, swoop down to the planet, save the broken-wristed crew, and all will rejoice – I don’t want that to happen. There’d be no living with her after that - she won’t have learnt anything.

And does anyone think it would have been quite polite for her to mutter a "Sorry" after she'd shouted another man's name in bed? I mean, it's only manners.

I think the President (and most of the cast's) view of Baltar goes through a few stages:

>He's the Colonies' combined Bill Gates/Einstein/Bruce Wayne. A charming multimillionaire and legendary "smartest man alive". Having him around and involved increases humanity's chances of survival greatly.

>Later: Okay, the trauma of the holocaust seems to have triggered a massive nervous breakdown but he's the only ubergenius we've got.

>During "Six": The shiftiness and paranoia and talking to himself: it's all the result of the massive guilt from betraying humanity and the fear of being exposed! Why didn't I see it before!

>"Colonial Day" and after: Okay, he's utterly batshit crazy but he's also one of the most charismatic men alive and he's still worshiped as a hero by anyone who hasn't met him lately. Zarek MUST be stopped and Baltar's my best shot. And in six months it won't matter because I'll have dealt with Zarek and picked a more suitable running mate.

Laura's used to turning her stance on Baltar. First she tells him that her gut instinct always told him he was a bit off that time he was revealed as a traitor, and then, referring to it as an "unpleasant duty" recruiting him as VP. She needs him. She's playing politician and is taking one hell of a risk with him into the bargain.

I thought Starbuck apologised to Lee not for sleeping with who she damn well pleased but for going over his head with her plan. As for Lee's behaviour, sure, jealosuy played its part, but his reference to the time she got drunk and had her hands all over some major, makes me think his anger with her was born from concern and knowing her too well. She sleeps with people she doesn't necessarily like. Although she and Baltar have been flirty in the past, the looks she's given him when he's being bat crazy, especially that time she caught him with his trousers down in the lab, she looked only well and truly turned off by him.

It was definitely Lee we saw in the teaser, what Kara was imagining, before we see the reality of Baltar. The haircut definitely gives it away, and do watch it over and over again. it's not just me projecting. It's Jamie. I'd have preferred no ship for these two but that was hot. It being within the greatest teaser ever may helped turn me. But I shall see how this relationship continues. Last week they were the couple who tortures together, this week they duked it out. Er, interesting couple. I'm more interested in Lee and Baltar having more screen time because of this. With Starbuck on her mission to go after the Apollo's arrow that cannot make her as happy as her dreams, maybe Lee will be leading the rescue mission to Kobol, and he can deal with an ego hurt Baltar while fleeing Cylons. I can see Baltar trying to do him in, while demanding an explanation from Six as to how being off Galactica has helped keep him safe.

I too am expecting Starbuck to pick up Helo on her return to Caprica. And maybe Boomer too. And they can take her back to meet their Boomer. Happy families.

I'm also wondering if Lee is the one referred to in the prophecies. Fascinating stuff, having Laura bringing faith into political decisions. Ahem!

1-12 "Kobol's Last Gleaming Part 1"

I'm really understanding what Couch Baron is talking about with Veronica Mars. How can BG hope to establish an average grade when every single fracking episode tops all the rest? Holy shit, that was a wild ride.

I have to echo the love everyone's showing for the opening. That was just beautiful, and I could just sit there and go "Holy fuck" over and over.

I really hope that Helo gets a ride with Starbuck. They can't have a character go back to Caprica without resolving that story. Though I was bracing myself for Helo to be shot while he was standing over Boomer.


I think this is just Starbuck being pushed way beyond everything. Think about it: she's had her head messed with a Cylon which pushed her back to her religious side, she had to admit to Adama what she did to his son, she had to watch as he benched her because of her injury, she had to sit on the sidelines for the largest operation yet, she's suddenly had a major Freudian slip which may have betrayed feelings she didn't realize she had, and the object of those feelings are suddenly all up on her ass and seems to be doing his best to remind her that she's just a screw-up. So I'd wager she's a little stressed-out.

I really wonder if something will be happening to Galactica, or is Six simply wanted Baltar down on that planet.

As for the ship that I dare not name....I don't think I'll even talk about it. Just ugh.

I simply cannot wait for next week. Best shown on television.

It's a big planet. I hope they establish some reason for the two meeting beyond sheer coincidence.

It would be perversely funny if they miss each other by just a little, though.

God, I thought I was the only person who was freaked out by the crashing Raptor. Eeeeek. All the screaming really got to me. Of course, when I realised it was Baltar screeching like a girl, the impact lessened slightly, but still, shudders, man.

Regarding Apollo, ITA that he was out of line, but I don't think his pissiness was totally out of character. We've seen before that he has a bit of a short fuse, what with him practically starting that barfight last week, and getting all up in Tigh's face waaaay back in episode 5 when Starbuck was missing, not to mention his regular bouts of pissiness with just about everyone. I also think that his feelings* towards Starbuck are influencing the way he treats her. He knows that she sleeps around, and that it isn't really that good for her, he's always hearing how great she is, and I think the though of her sleeping around with Baltar the crazy man-ho, Magnificent Bastard or not, disturbed him more than a little, what with her being engaged to his brother and all. So what with the jealousy, insecurity, betrayal and inadequacy that he's probably feeling, I can somewhat understand his pissiness.

On a lighter note, he still can't duke it out for shit. Being beaten by your old man is only going to fuel the rumours that you're a big sissy, no matter how many big, manly cigars you smoke. Maybe if Apollo got a big ol' phallic symbol of his own, he'd stop feeling so emasculated by Starbuck.

*totally platonic, non-shippery feelings of course *g*

On the subject of the Ship That Shall Remain Nameless can they get together if they want to? I understand that babies need to be made, but they're in the military and if it wasn't permissable for Tyrol and Boomer why should it be any different for them?

Of course it could just lead to a Stargate style forbidden military lurve. Blargh.

Call me weird and paranoid but I thought that maybe the "priestess" was a Cylon manipulating Roslin with all the Prophecy crap, kinda like Six does with Baltar but "in flesh". Am I making sense ?
I missed some episodes so maybe Laura's direct entourage was tested and greenlighted by Baltar, but then , he didn't rat Boomer out , who's to say he'd tell anyone if "the priestess" was a Cylon too.

Kill.me.now.

Spoilers for Tigh me Up, Tigh me Down.
At the end of that episode Baltar admits to Six that everyone passes these days. It makes life simpler for him. Weasel.

But though I don't think it's been mentioned that Laura's direct entourage have been tested, it's not too much of a stretch to think that they'd be among the first. Makes sense. You test the leaders, their advisors, the people piloting the ships, the fighters, then the civilians (with the chefs and doctors coming high up on the civilian test list.)

I don't think priestess lady is a Cylon (watch that come back to bite me on the behind), but I don't trust her. Like everyone on the ship, she's probably got ulterior motives.



I don't know what this is. I have the feeling I don't want to. Is it UST for the sake of having UST?

Thanks laurabeth.
I really don't have the episodes names memorized (I count on the recaps to fix that), but testing the big heads (Roslin and Adama precisely) was mentionned. Well more than that actually but not their aides, so that lead me to speculate the above.
You know, since Six "materialized" on the BG, I told myself she could have done so with another look, here the priestess, to fulfill her holly manipulative mission.
I think my mind made one too many "jump" over this thing. ;)