Miss Alli
Nov 16, 2004 @ 7:07 am
Another struggling marriage. Oh, goody.
MandolinViola
Nov 16, 2004 @ 2:23 pm
Something about this team just rubs me the wrong way. I thought they sounded obnoxious in their bios, and they look even worse in the previews. I'm guessing they're going to be the villains for this season.
baha0007
Nov 16, 2004 @ 2:29 pm
Pop Artist Painter/Model.
Jeez, shut up Victoria. For future editions of TAR can we leave the "/Model" off the job description ? There don't seem to be any teams left without it.
Mama Tiger
Nov 16, 2004 @ 2:57 pm
Everything about this team rubs me the wrong way. And don't forget, this is the team that Phil described on The Early Show as "the loudest team we've ever had on the Race." Oh, goody. More people screaming at each other and everyone else.
Lantern7
Nov 16, 2004 @ 3:12 pm
They're either annoying, or faking being annoying. Just so I can get it out of the way: shut UP, Jonathan!
joem
Nov 16, 2004 @ 3:24 pm
Bummer. I wanted to be the first to saySHUT UP JONATHAN
Albacore
Nov 16, 2004 @ 3:28 pm
I really don't get the "fake-out" strategy. They're going to pretend they aren't married and pretend they're younger than they are (good luck with that, btw) why, exactly? Aren't you better off in general if the other teams like you? It seems like a waste of energy to be lying all the time.
On the other hand, I appreciate that they seem like they're taking it seriously.
piperdown
Nov 16, 2004 @ 3:53 pm
They're going to pretend they aren't married and pretend they're younger than they are (good luck with that, btw) why, exactly?
I have no idea, the only scenario I see is going to be the other teams saying "Wow that team that is younger then they look, are really slow and out of shape for a team that's only [what ever their lie is]"
If they want to be underestimated, then tell the other teams that your sixty, and walk with a bit of a limp every now and then.
ETA:
Albacore, your sister told me you got married. Congratulations...To think it all started on my birthday...even though I wasn't involved in any way
deimos
Nov 16, 2004 @ 4:21 pm
I've revised my idea of this team since they've been talked about so much in interviews. I thought they might just be a prettier version of Lance & Whatshisname, just kind of there for the publicity. I keep hearing that Jonathan is the biggest fan of the show they've ever had on. But it seems that where most fans conclude that an eyes-on-your-own-paper strategy is best most of the time, he has decided that he's figured out how to game the system. Whether this will actually work remains to be seen -- they could be another team that spends its time scheming while everybody else spends their time buying the best bus tickets. I can't really see lying about one's age or marital status paying off that well.
It seems that generally people who come into reality shows with an elaborate plan have planned to play the villian. I guess it requires less cooperation from the other people on the show -- it's easier to make people hate you. From a viewer's standpoint, it tends to make them more annoying than entertainingly evil. There should be a Luck of the Evil exception for people who are trying too hard.
It Does Not Follow
Nov 16, 2004 @ 6:00 pm
FIRST IMPRESSION: Given the track records of “formerly married” couples (translation: divorced), the outlook doesn’t look entirely bad for them. Then again, who knows?
screamapiller
Nov 16, 2004 @ 6:09 pm
Everything about this team rubs me the wrong way. And don't forget, this is the team that Phil described on The Early Show as "the loudest team we've ever had on the Race." Oh, goody. More people screaming at each other and everyone else.
I'm looking forward to how well that whole "Jedi Mind Trick" thing works for Jonathan in a Tanzanian jail....
KingsHearte
Nov 16, 2004 @ 7:55 pm
Aside from all the other perfectly good reasons to dislike these two, does anyone else see anything wrong with the following: "Let's have babies." "No, let's not." Etc. "Wow, these gruelling discussions are really putting a strain on our relationship. How can we fix this problem?" "I know! Let's go on The Amazing Race!" Haven't they ever heard of counselling?
Abelard
Nov 16, 2004 @ 10:04 pm
Geez. Jonathan is Colin without the charm.
Hate, hate, hatey-hate.
JohnnySunshine9
Nov 16, 2004 @ 10:05 pm
Oh dear god! Jonathan needs anger management counseling stat. This couple makes me very, very sad. Jonathan's treatment of Victoria is appalling and he makes Colin's most insane moments seem tame in comparison. I absolutely despise Jonathan already and this episode is only half over. Despicable. Please, please, please be the first team eliminated, I can't stand to see this asshat on my screen any longer. He's absolutely terrifying.
kaikai
Nov 16, 2004 @ 10:05 pm
It's half an hour in and I HATE HATE HATE him already. What's with that high pitch, Jonathan? You have something against dogs?
Bix Bender
Nov 16, 2004 @ 10:08 pm
Oy, it's going to be a long season.
If the TAR Gods are listening, I know you came through for us vis a vis Alison and Donny, but we may need another early ouster miracle.
I hereby dub him "The Blue Meanie".
Toots
Nov 16, 2004 @ 10:09 pm
Joining in on the passionate HATE for Jonathan. What an arrogant, obnoxious, loud-mouthed, mean, JERK!! As usual for me, I'm spending this first episode just trying to figure out who everyone is when it cuts from team to team so frequently and fast, but Jonathan had already managed to stand out and make an impression on me...a terribly negative one. He's way worse than Colin...at least Colin gradually got jerkier. This guy is Asshole Numero Uno right from the get-go. I cannot bear an entire season of him. Oh Tubbed One, please make it go away!!!
kakistos
Nov 16, 2004 @ 10:24 pm
Is it too early to say Johnathan is worse than Colin? Worse than Colin and Flo combined? SHUT UP, JOHNATHAN, SHUT UP!
robinette
Nov 16, 2004 @ 10:34 pm
I mentioned this on another thread but I guess it should have been here.
Jonathan reminds me of the Gotti boys. I don't know if it is his eyebrows or his mouth.
ETA- Oh yeah Jonathan , SHUT UP!
Lindsey23
Nov 16, 2004 @ 10:35 pm
OH MY GOD!!! What horrible, grating, obnoxious people! And that neon yellow shirt...
I shudder at the thought that they may one day reproduce.
robinette
Nov 16, 2004 @ 10:37 pm
Lindsey...
I shudder at the thought that they might win.
BK1978
Nov 16, 2004 @ 11:49 pm
I hate Jonathan. However, part of me likes the fact that he is going to be the guy that I will love to hate. And I do hope he last for at least awhile. So I can route against him.
Pointe3579
Nov 16, 2004 @ 11:51 pm
I 100% dislike this team thus far. I am wondering did they do anything, but scream at each other during this first leg. I want them to be eliminated and eliminated soon, so we don't have to put up with their screeching week after week.
triggerhappyjack
Nov 16, 2004 @ 11:54 pm
Is it too early to say Johnathan is worse than Colin? Worse than Colin and Flo combined?
Come back, Colin! Come back, Flo! All is forgiven, I swear!
leew261
Nov 16, 2004 @ 11:55 pm
Jonathan is the biggest jackass in the history of the Amazing Race. HATE!!!!!!!
mallycat17
Nov 16, 2004 @ 11:56 pm
I think they're boat driver wanted to pull a Titantic and crash into one of the icebergs. They remind me a lot of Tara & Wil (even though those two weren't as intense or nasty to each other this early.) Jonathan's a little too enthusiastic for me, but hey, at least he's having fun and wants to win.
bubbaboy8
Nov 16, 2004 @ 11:56 pm
Is it too early to say Jonathan is worse than Colin? Worse than Colin and Flo combined?
That's almost where I was going....I was originally thinking like the whiny-ness of Flo and the controlling of Colin, until I read the recaplet.
Miss Alli got it right: Jonathan is Wil from TAR2.
Morningstar
Nov 16, 2004 @ 11:57 pm
Johnathan gave me a headache with his yelling. Also, WHAT A DICK!
Layla71
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:00 am
"I consider myself a mental magician." Hee.
screamapiller
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:03 am
Is it too early to say Johnathan is worse than Colin? Worse than Colin and Flo combined?
No. No, it is not. What a horrible little man he appears to be. What the hell was up with all that badgering? "You need to keep up with my pace!" "Acknowledge me, please?" Whatever dude. I didn't dislike Colin this much in the first epi of TAR5.
The funniest thing? When he was trying to buddy up to Bolo with that "we could be super heroes" comment. Bolo looked like he was thinking "Dude, I
crap bigger than you."
EmmyMik
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:06 am
Add me to the list of those who want to say...
SHUT UP JONATHAN!
(can I have Flo back? Please?)
devajd
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:06 am
Jonathan is definitely Wil (x1000) but she is no Tara. At least Tara could stick up for herself and gave as good as she was forced to take. Victoria is a shrinking violet and I have no idea how she is surviving that relationshp.
I hated J. from the second I saw him bouncing on the start line to his overly dramatic victory dance on the finish line.
SHUT UP!
genau
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:14 am
Jonathan is with Victoria because he can dominate her and she is a trophy wife. Victoria is with Jonathan because he was probably once charming and based on the car he was driving and the humvee in his driveway, he may have money. That man is a major ass and he probably won't even see it when he watches the shows.
pseudostudent
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:41 am
Hey, Team Passhole-Aggresshole! I think I've used my mute button more with you than with any other TAR team ever. And I don't know where you got the idea, but arguing doesn't necessarily make entertaining TV.
bubbaboy8
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:43 am
Yeah, re: Bolo, after looking at his face, I could tell he was thinking something along the lines of "Yeah, superhero. Watch me throw you to the ground and we'll see who's the superhero, you wuss."
piperdown
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:47 am
You know the movie The Ring with the girl that crawls out of your TV to kill you? Well I wanted the reverse to be true. I jut wanted to reach inside my TV and strangle him for a bit, just to shut him up.
Mental magician? More like mental midget (or is that mental Little Person?). I really don't see how wearing yellow makes you a super hero. Running your mouth off, and belittling your wife definitely makes you an asshole though.
Bruin4Ever
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:49 am
"Dude, I crap bigger than you."
BWAH! That was exactly what I was thinking.
And I'm with y'all on the Jonathan hate train.
beezer
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:50 am
Who thought anyone could make Wil look like a good date? Sheezus.
Mama Tiger
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:53 am
I actually was sitting there ready to stick my fingers in my ears when they got to the mat and found out they weren't in last place. Because I was afraid my eardrums would rupture as he reached new volume levels. Man, Phil wasn't kidding when he said this was the LOUDEST team they've ever had on the Race. Does anyone have some duct tape?
Pointe3579
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:58 am
Man, Phil wasn't kidding when he said this was the LOUDEST team they've ever had on the Race. Does anyone have some duct tape?
I wish because Jonathan needs some badly. And you all thought Linda was loud on the last race and mute worthy. I hit my mute button more in these two hours than I ever did as I was watching a TV show.
sardonic
Nov 17, 2004 @ 12:58 am
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE him. He is all of the awful qualities of Colin, Ian, Wil, Alison, and Jonny Fairplay from Survivor all combined into one loud jackass. There are not swear words strong enough to describe my loathing for him. If she appeared to have any redeeming qualities, I'd feel sorry for her, but since I haven't seen any yet, I don't.
clp
Nov 17, 2004 @ 1:08 am
With Victoria being an ex-Playboy Playmate, I am totally calling them "Team Star 80".
RedBearDave
Nov 17, 2004 @ 1:33 am
Oh, dear GAWD, this man...I...he...GAH.
slackerchick
Nov 17, 2004 @ 1:36 am
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!!!!!
Y'all, please let me know when they get eliminated, cuz that's when I'll start watching the show again. It took WEEKS for me to hate Colin, and I certainly didn't hate him or Mirna as much as I already hate Jonathan.
Seven
Nov 17, 2004 @ 1:37 am
Who would have thought that a person so small could house an ego so huge. I'm having a hard time putting my contempt into words. How is it that something like that ever got married?
I'll bet he never gives head.
CoolHandFluke
Nov 17, 2004 @ 1:56 am
Victoria: a bit whiny, but understandably so.
Jonathan: thanks for besmirching my name, ass. Good thing there's another, so-far much cooler Jon to counteract the effect.
Lantern7
Nov 17, 2004 @ 1:57 am
Guys like Wil and Colin? Assholes, but genuine. Jonathan's probably playing it up to the cameras. And like Christie and Tara, Victoria isn't that big a prize, either. Maybe that's her secret.
Dezbot
Nov 17, 2004 @ 2:24 am
If he's playing up to the cameras to be the biggest asshole ever, I'd say he's doing a good job of it. HAAAAAAAAAAAATED him within the first 35 minutes. Will HAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE him forever if he keeps up this shit, too.
Rainmaker
Nov 17, 2004 @ 2:31 am
Sadly, I don't think Jonathan is playing an ass just for tv. Jonathan makes Colin look like a saint. I never thought that would be possible. His "Kiss me" was eerily reminiscent of Colin and Christie's elevator kiss. Somebody needs to get this guy his Ritalin.
Victoria is an ex Playmate? How long ago? She doesn't seem to have aged well. I feel truly sorry for her having to live with that jerk of a jerk. Loved her "I'm going to change my name" line.
Montykins
Nov 17, 2004 @ 3:36 am
Wow.
How long until Jonathan takes a swing at Victoria?
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