This thread is for discussion about The Apprentice videos at NBC.com, Yahoo, etc.

Check out how they sum up the personalities of the candidates. This one's quiet, but scheming. This one's filled with ambition. This one's a loose cannon. But they couldn't come up with a single interesting thing to say about Chris. Ouch.

Hopefully, they'll have extra web-only footage. I'm an insider video junkie and I was have my Apprentice video fix soon!!!

I liked the one with Ivana when she said that she wanted to be on The Apprentice to restore dignity to Asian women and venture capitalists because Tammy was, as she said, "a disgrace", and David was the first one fired.

hmmm....well, she wasn't the first one fired. As for restoring dignity? Not so much.

Hopefully this is the appropriate place to discuss the videos at apprentice.tv.yahoo.com.

I just watched Jen C's taxicab confessional and she said that her biggest mistake was not bringing Ivana into the boardroom. Huh? Ivana seemed to do a fairly decent job this time around so that didn't make sense at all.

Loved the clip of Mosaic's lousy serving skills - Carolyn had to laugh and turn away at one point! The guys and Pam seemed to just accept that they were gonna make mistakes and used their charm to keep the customers happy.

Wow, I watched NBC's intros for Ivana (cute, even though I can't stand her), Kevin (dignified, capable). Then I watched Stacie J's and it was such a hatchet job! Showing everything out of context (her saying "I don't want to be friends with any of these women", showing Ivana saying she needs constant supervision, showing the aftermath of her argument with Jen C after the girls tried the secret back-stabbing meeting....

What the Hell is NBC/Mark Burnett's problem? I really think between this show and Survivor that Burnett has a problem with black women. I think he looks for them to be villains and, when they aren't (like Stacie J) he wants it edited so they look like they are. I really don't think I'd like him as a person, just based on his attitude in these shows.

Whuh? I thought she said that about Sandy?

I just saw the extra footage on Yahoo, and it's clear that Stacy suggested that they talk with the Zagats before deciding on Asian Fusion. Jenn tells her to go ahead, and she and Jen M go off together. Zagats tell them that Asian Fusion is complicated and may not be the best idea given the time constraints. They report back, and Jenn basically tells them to shut up because they are destablizing the team.

So she's even more idiotic and irrational than what was shown on TV? Wow.

I just saw that, and am floored. She pretty much told them to stop calling because it was unsettling to be questioning the idea after she'd decided on it. Even after Zagat's basically told them, this is not a good idea. Jen M. told her it wasn't going to work, so it wasn't just her blowing off Stacy's chatter. Jen C. is an absolute twit.

Oh, and apparently the next morning she went off with Sandy shopping for flowers while everyone else was dealing with vendors and setting up the place. It's a good thing she was fired, or she might have been murdered in her bed that night.

I'm not at all a fan of Smeag"H"H"H"Htacy, but she gets props for doing the face-time with ZagATs with JennM. (I was, however, embarassed for her "It's my BIBLE!" outburst and effusive thanks.)

ETA: General Raj!

The extra footage on Yahoo is great! There are a ton of surprising nuggets that will delight the true fan. Referring the restaurant task from Week 4, Mosaic looks even sharper and more personable (Pamela actually turns on some charm!), and the Apexians look even more hapless and catty (but incredibly, Little Stacy looks professional at Zagats!).

Seeing and enjoying both this material and the Extra BR footage on Saturday leads me to call for the establishment of a 24/7 "Apprentice Channel". This channel would air everything recorded, in real time. Fellow obsessives, join me in this petition!!!

Talk about cognitive dissonance with the bullshit yarns her Dad told her about forgoing sleep.

My favoriate clip was watching her getting outwitted by Sandy of all people as she clumsily tried to manipulate a hatchet job against Weepy or Halfpint.

That's called "Fragging" in the armed forces.

The videos illustrated very well Bill's criticism of Apex; that they were low energy. It's obvious that Mosaic made lots of serving mistakes. However, they jollied the customers along, and the customers were amused rather than offended (cf. the knife lady). And people seemed to be having a good time, and enjoying themselves. Whereas Apex's anxiety translated to hovering over the customers and putting them down when they commented say, on the bread. If Jenn had joked about it, she might have won them over. Instead, she irritated them (as she seems to irritate everyone) with that awful smirk and her undentable smugness.

I keep trying to play the Yahell vidoes and I keep getting an error. How do you get them to play?

God, Jenn C.'s taxicab footage. Delusional! She has not learned a lot about herself. "If you're going to be fired, be fired by the best." Dumb. And she actually DID say she wished she'd brought Ivana into the boardroom. Duh. Oops! She meant Sandy. What a moron. Buh bye to another hideous tv bitchface.

Try turning off antivirus software; that worked for me.

Bubbleville brought up the Yahoo footage in the episode thread: I’m on dial-up on a slow computer-- could someone elaborate please? Are my two favorites fighting or did it look like a passing disagreement? I gave Pamazon a pass on the kid stuff but if her hard edge bruises my Raj I am totally breaking up with her.

Pamela has had a 'tude about every task since she was PM. She's done her own share of eye-rolling, tho nothing like Shi Ann (Survivor), Ivana or StacyR. She smirked at the shorts/shirts/bowties on the ice cream task and was totally dismissive and unsupportive of the team's efforts to follow up on Andy's idea of high dollar giveaway during the Crest task.

Granted, Andy's idea was a little far reaching but the legal eagles didn't say it was garbage, just that they didn't really have the time to implement it.


She's smug and personally, I hate smug.

Wow, all the Raj lovers ought to check out the Yahoo TV extra video called "The Plot Against Pamela" -- very interesting how he led the pack.

Very interesting that the men and the women hate Pamela too. Seems like Trump's decision to fire Pamela fits his previous ones -- he doesn't like it when everyone who don't like each other hates you.

I read this sequence very differently. I think Raj was manipulating Apex into banding against Pamela because he knows that she would be a threat later on for the apprenticeship. Since making Apex turn on a team member is like shooting fish in a barrel, I'd say it was quite effective strategy on Raj's part. Divide and conquer. Divide and conquer.

Oh, and the scenes afterwards when Pamela gave no bullshit to Elizabeth about how she won't point fingers and just state the facts? Absolutely refreshing. She may have tooted her own horn a bit, but if she doesn't do it, who will? Apex? I think not.

I definitely agree. The men spoke earlier about how they feared a Pamela win because it would make her even more powerful an adversary. Trump and the viceroys praised her, and only her, in their first and only Boardroom session. They saw her as a threat. I think the Mosaic men saw this loss as the perfect opportunity to take her out of the game and Raj slithered over to sow the seeds of discontent.

Ooooo, very good point about the strategy and how it fits what Mosaic was talking about on the bus.

A lot of those Mosaic guys are lightweights anyway. The only reason they're still around is because they haven't landed their asses in the Boardroom. Lucky for them, the Apexiennes are combusting on their own hysteria.

Once the teams go co-ed, DT and viceroys will start trimming fat and the men will finally be at risk. It helps them strategically if they eliminate the stronger members of the opposing team and make alliances with the weaklings. Just like on Survivor before the tribes combine....

I do think it's interesting that Raj lead the pack about Pamela. Just reinforces my HATE opinions of him. If he were a smarter player, he'd let someone else do the dirty work. After all, the rest of the women were probably going to plan against Pamela anyway. However, it's possible that all the guys really did dislike her. Although it makes me feel worse for her because Raj was the mastermind. What an asswipe. "She thinks she's so high and mighty." That sounds like a pot-kettle moment to me.

I still can't get over the fact that Raj put on McEnroe's boxers. Ewww.

Why would it have mattered? This was done far away from the auspices of Donald Trump; there's little chance he will find out that the men were actively trying to sandbag her. Both Apex and Mosaic had to gain from the boot; Apex can go one being their catty selves, and Mosaic takes down a big threat. I still maintain that this was a good strategic move by Raj (and Mosaic in general).

The tasks from both seasons have been stupid. Junior high fund raising bullshit. In both seasons, the theme has been the same. The teams that worked together the best, won. Last year it was the women. This year it's the men.

Chris, Andy and John should be out the door at the first opportunity. Kelly and Raj will probably make the final 4, along with Jenn and, sheesh at this point who the hell knows.

But the men's team gets along better with each other. Regardless of how they may actually feel about one another, they pull together for each task because they are keeping their eyes on the long term prize. They know only one will win but they seem to have enough (possiblly misplaced) confidence in themselves to row their boat evenly.

That's what I was coming over here to say! I honestly don't think Raj, or any of the guys, believed Pamela was poisonous or "a spider". I think it was strategy. They know that this pack of wolf bitches can sway The Hair when they band together, so it was smart (though in an evil way) to set Pamela up like that. Basically all's fair in love and war, so when Pamela was no longer on their team she was fair game. They also know that even the weakest one of them can easily beat any one of the bitches--with the possible exception of Jen M.

I posted in response on another thread, but I didn't know they should have posted it on this thread so I am reposting it here.


Are we sure that the underwear belonged to John McEnroe? When he picked them up he seemed disgusted by them, gripping them at the edges...I wouldn't think someone would do that to their own underwear unless McEnroe is afraid of his own germs.

I don't care whose boxers they were, I'm just glad someone had some to offer him. I so didn't need to know that he didn't have anything on under his tennies. Ew.

Agreed. However, I don't think that Raj is one of those guys. I suspect that he'll get very far in the game. That guy has a really shrewd business mind underneath his crazy exterior.

You can see that the smarter guys within Mosaic: Raj, Kelly, and to some extent Kevin are positioning themselves for later on in the game. The rest of their teammates don't have a clue about what's really going on though. The same thing with Jen M. at Apex; she's never part of any of the Coven's "strategy sessions," but yet the Coven has not turned on her because she has been subtle about it.

Though, technically, wasn't Raj just as bad as the Coven with his "strategy"? I mean, isn't that what they essentially do to each other? Let's pick off someone that's a threat so we can get ahead... seems like their philosophy and it seems exactly what Raj is doing. Whether or not he believes what he's saying doesn't matter -- it's the same as the girls ganging up on Stacie J. in the boardroom, "she's horrible, she's a spider" to me is no better than what the girls did. Plus it made me lose respect for Kevin who I really really like.

And the "nothing under the towel" was just TMI. And really really gross.

All this overt "Survivor"-type strategy just rubs me the wrong way. Not only is it ruining this show, IMHO, it's also recourse for the weak and insecure. If you are confident in your abilites, then, really, you don't waste your time on catty bullshit like this. I don't recall ever seeing Troy or Kwame or Boyfriend Bill slithering around the opposite team, lobbying for stronger competitors to be picked off to improve their own chances. They just did their damn job and impressed the hell out of us on their own merits. How refreshing!

Honestly, this show is turning into a pathetic Big Brother rip-off. Watching Raj run around in someone's borrowed underwear whilst the others pelted him with tennis balls is another low. Frat-boy antics and more "Real World" filler... *yawn*

Except it wasn't in the boardroom, and it wasn't in front of the boss.

I don't normally quote entire posts but keg411 Word.

Raj was at least doing it for his team. The women are not in it for anyone else. Raj has more to gain with more women on the team.

Of this entire batch, only Raj, Kevin(who seems less boring and less passive than Kwame to which he is getting compared to), and maybe Kelly are the only decent options(despite Kelly's stupid pricing). Chris seems OK. John, I can't tell. He did a bad job in the ice cream task spazzing out. But he seems cool otherwise.

Wes is a waste. Andy seems immature but he looks like he will at least be a decent follower.

Overall, the guys should be beating the women in bigger margins than they are. Narrowly beating these women is not a good sign.

I remember seeing the camera cut to Kevin and then Chris after Raj's spider speech and hearing Ivana say that all of the guys were against Pamela, but I don't remember anyone except Raj actually being SHOWN sandbagging Pamela. Given Burnett's penchant for using footage out of order, I'm not sure I would buy what the sequencing suggests. Raj might have represented that all the guys are against Pamela, but I don't remember anything in the video that confirms this.

I'm speculating, but I'm sure Andy was out to get Pamela given his last encounter in the board room or that Raj wanted her out after their past exchanges, but it's unclear whether ALL of the rest of the guys or just a few of the other guys actually made Raj go twist the Apex-ninies' arms.

Reading that comment right after JenEx's post, I thought, "Oh, is that what it's called?" And then had quite a gigglefest. I am 8 years old.

I'm glad that you got a big kick out of it...

What was up with Maria's position on the bed? Legs open but crossed at the knee; is that a yoga thing? It kinda looked like she was aiming her naughty bits at Raj . . .



Was anyone else kinda creeped out by her clipping her hair? Like in a "Single White Female" kinda way

I wonder if there is anyway we can find out or make sure that hte question is asked when one of the Mosaicians get booted as to how they actually felt about Pamela. I remember Andy wanted to take a shovel to her head, but that is Andy. Pamela seemed to have a lot of respect for the guys in the Taxi.

Anyone know how we can possibly find out?

Bwa! and Yes!

Raj talking to StacieR about taking down Pam? If StacieR is Smeagol, Raj has become Saramun, and now I want to see him go down as hard as that miserable Smeagol.

This show is being ruined by the Survivor/Big Brother shit. I wonder if the contestants brought these strategies on their own, or if Burnett encouraged it? Regardless, I think this show has jumped the shark.




Ewwww.

That is a yoga pose; it's good for stretching out the quads.



ITA. It's also just unclean and given the quantity of hair she was trimming, likely to clog up the girls' bathroom drain. Ick. Could you iamgine brushing your teeth, turning on the water, and then having little bits of Maria's hair swimming up at you. Ughhh...

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‘cause Ivana never stretches the truth for dramatic purposes. We’ll probably never know.

The teams' presentations for the fifth assignments are available via QVC's website.

I thought for a sec that Maria had flipped out and was shaving her head. Weird.

ahahahahahahahahaha, sit yr spazzy ass down Maria!

Wow, JennM aced that!