Nick's family probably isn't going around topless, drinking themselves into oblivion, spilling food all over and then dumping back into the pot, or, in other words, entertaining.

I think CaCee is my punishment for uttering, "God, is there anyone more annoying than Jessica?" too many times last season. It was a rhetorical question, CreepyPaSimpson! Rhe-tor-i-cal.

Re. Paparazzi issue, I used do think celebrites should suck it up when it comes to them, but I saw this special where Reese Witherspoon, with her baby were HOUNDED by the paparazzi. They were crowding her and the baby taking photos, and that's what made me swear never to buy an US Weekly so I can't contribute to this crap. What was with all those paparazzi following Jessica in their cars (not to mention in a fairly residental area, where some kid could've ran out in the street)? It's completely instrusive, annoying and dangerous, so of course it'll take someone getting killed (again) for sensible changes to begin.



ETA: Before a mod lays the smackdown, I do know most shows that are PH'd usually don't have very big followings. TWOP pays the recappers and HAS to make money, so a show that doesn't get enough traffic from the MBs or mailing lists has to go. I don't know how this show did. Just because a show is popular doesn't mean it has to be recapped.

Or maybe TWOP's sick of Jessica Simpson. They're not the only ones.

ETA again: Offical answer from the FAQ:



That's it.

[small voice]Please recap Degrassi, The Next Generation. I know it won't make any money for you and won't generate a lot of money. But it is awesome. Awesome always wins.[/small voice]

I think that people are complaining because, as with many other aspects of her life, Jessica exploits the fact that she is Christian, which is creating a situation where she is now going to be nitpicked for every "un-Christian" thing she does. When you make a point to get people focused on your religion (or anything, not just that), and how it plays such a big role in your life, those same people that you targeted with your comments and tried to get attention from will then have comments to make when you do something that contradicts that, especially on national television, such as go topless, jump out of a cake and dance, and criticize others for their choices in life (Hooters, etc.)

The bottom line is: Don't make such a point to divulge your religious background if you're going to follow it up with immature comments and rude behavior. Criticism will always follow.

Hey, I have a question!! Does anyone have a link so I can read the Howard Stern interview with Nick Lachey!!??

Man Jessica is one snotty bitch. I just saw the "paparazzi" episode, where she totally rags on women who work at Hooters, even though she's never even been inside one. She acts like they are whores or something. Give me a break! All they do is fucking wear shorts and a t-shirt, whoop-fucking-doo. I've seen her in her slutty outfits so many times it's pathetic, she has no room to talk at all. It's obvious she is so in love with herself, and likes to rag on people who didn't grow up with a rich daddy and had everything served to them on a silver plater, people who actually have to work for a living at a real job that is anything but glamorous or fun. She needs to get off her high horse and take a good look in the mirror, and see herself for the tits-N-ass that she is.

Oh, and somebody please tell my why this show is still running? They aren't even newlyweds anymore for cryin out loud, and I for one have had my fill. I'd rather watch my cat lick her ass at this point. Only redeeming quality in the entire thing is Nick and his family.

Because it is still getting the ratings.

Thank you Mega J but I can tell you that this show generated plenty of traffic when it was being recapped.

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It was from last year so you would have to do a search. It would be a recap not a transcript.

Too bad you missed it. I caught it on E! and poor Nick was sweating bullets the entire time.

Thank you! My mom watched it but I missed it. I have been trying to catch it on a rerun!

I totally agree. In fact, I pretty much the exact same thing 4 pages ago, except that I said it was a job where the ogling is pretty much guaranteed. (Men may ogle anywhere, but you can be sure they will there.)

It just occurred to me after watching Jessica put back the bitten pickle in the pickle jar that she's a dirty girl (I mean physically dirty). At least that's the impression I got. I bet she also wasn't taught a lot of other things, like washing her hands after she pees.

I still don't understand why the Authorities haven't cracked down on the stalker'azzi in LA, especially on the roads. After watching Hollywood Hunt Club and seeing their disregard for anyone safety behind the wheel, I've sworn-off People Magazine and other such TV programs as-well. Maybe some legal standards for what's "newsworthy in a public venue" where the press prerogative outweighs personal privacy? And one that gives private property owners precedence over the press.

As a business-owner, I'd have pulled out the shotgun and, "Yo, shutter-boy. Off the chair and outside, NOW!" to the jerk standing on the chair inside the T-Mobile storefront.

One can understand why those who can live in Montana, Wyoming or Connecticut between projects, rather than LA. Having seen a few "celebrities" in my time, I limit myself to a polite nod if we make eye-contact.

An excelllent point. I think that going onto anyone's property is going too far. But - when they are out in public - it doesn't bother me. We are all being filmed everywhere that we go. Security cameras are everywhere. Smile, don't scratch your ass and keep doing what you are doing. There is no privacy in public places.



Which is probably true and makes the pickle thing more grotesque.

I'll bet that if Jessica could read that she would be upset that people are talking about Britney in the forum for her show.

I can't feel sorry for Jessica because people want to take her picture while she shops for overpriced clothing or because she receives a few prank calls on her top-of-the-line cell phone. I'll reserve my sorrow and pity for the more deserving. Tonight children will go hungry. She could cry into her P.F. Chang's or Tony Romas for all I care. She's set for life and won't have to worry about one single thing; meanwhile, parents are working two or three minimum wage jobs, trying to feed their children. Please, bitch, STFU and taking a bite out of a pickle and returning it to the jar is F'in' nasty.

... and what are women who date rich men for their money? She is fucked up.

I don't feel sorry for Jessica either. Those people who stare at her while she eats? Are the same people who buy her crappy albums, go to her crappy concerts, and watch her crappy show. In other words, if people weren't paying attention to her, she wouldn't be buying expensive cars, jewelry, or live in that big fancy home.

I have a question again! Somebody said that if we wanted to continue the Britney talk to to go FT. What is FT and how do I get there?

I'm not usually sympathetic towards celebs or anything since I usually could care less, but think about it...People such as the paparazzi just go too damn far. What kinda lifeless moron would dedicate so much time to looking at people EAT! And whats worse, is that people actually want to KNOW about these things. I could see how Jessica, Nick, or any other celeb would get annoyed because they're friggin human too. They're not any less human than you or I. Sure they got themselves into the public eye, but you can't blame them for getting irritated when the public gets obsessive.

FT is Fametracker, a site in the TWoP family for snarking on celebs.

LauraLei, Where did you find out about Michelle Branch? Is this guy her manager or something? I missed last night's episode and I'm glad I did. Jessica is a twit and doesn't know anything about the real world, period!

It seemed like the paparazzi were more than a mere annoyance for Jessica in last night's episode. Some innocent bystander could get injured or killed with all those SUVs speeding around the streets like that. There really need to be some laws in place to deal with that kind of thing. I also dont understand why people are so interested in seeing or hearing about a celebrity buying coffee, going to the grocery store, or doing some other mundane activity.

Jessica learned her pickle habits from her mother. Remember in an interview one of them said the mother would buy new outfits, leave on the tags, and then when Jessica wore them once she would return them as brand new. Get a pickle, take a bite, put it back in the jar. Same thing.

ET just said she often relies on wigs. I did not know that, but it explains why her $4500 hairstyle sometimes looks like ass. Or maybe it's just a lousy style.

The Michelle Branch story was mentioned on last night's ET or Extra, so it's true. Didn't Mina Suvari also marry her thirtysomething manager at 21? And then there's Celine Dion, whose husband practically raised her. That always squicks me out.

Here'sthe link to the Michele Branch story.


You never cease to crack me up Vermicious Knid, but today you really have been pulling out your A material.

The pickles came from 2 different jars. One I believe was store brand, the one she put back was a Vlasic. Personally Vlasics are too crunchy and normal for me so I throw them out if I don't like them. I prefer soggy and salty, which is the type I think she kept on her burger.

Oh, GOD, when I ragged on her for being a hypocrite earlier, I had forgotten that she jumped out of a cake like a common $20 stripper.


And I dont eat pickles, so I dont know this, but wouldnt the vinegar taht the cucumber/pickles are submerged in kill any germs found in Jessica's saliva just by virtue of its high acidity? Im not making excuses for her behavior, Im just saying.....

Do you think Jessica knows that?

Upthread, I said:
Then, Nana's Ghost said:
Nana's Ghost, I'm not sure whether your comment was partially triggered by mine, but I wanted to clarify the point of my post.

I'm not judging her for drinking. Nor even for not going to church. It's more the implication that the Simpsons spent their Easter (only the most holy of Christian holidays) doing nothing remotely like honoring the meaning of the holiday... as far as we know. Judging by how they spent their time, you'd never guess it was Easter. I'm not judging her for drinking, just the "best Easter ever" comment, which appeared to be Easter sans Jesus. Even the editors noted something odd about Jessica's comment, since they chose that moment to show the bottles.

Naturally, my impression is framed by what I saw on the screen. Perhaps the Simps did stagger into a church on Easter, but MTV didn't air it.

I could not believe her 'dating a rich guy to get his money doesn't make you a whore' thing. She's just dumb as a fucking box of rocks - yes massively more offensive.

What I really don't understand there is how the hell they don't know this sort of thing about each other. You've been together more than five years, you went to the trouble to marry and it comes as a surprise that your wife thinks being a whore is ok, but waitressing is not, and it shocks her that her husband doesn't find stripping makes one a whore of Babylon?



That I thought was totally normal, I actually got annoyed they acted like it was such a big deal when Creepy walked in on them. I mean it's his own children and his wife, why the hell were they so 'ohmygod he saw my chest!' With the high-pitched squeal giggling. Freaks, they're total clueless freaks.

As for the paparrazi - yes, that seemed annoying. But not only did she ask for it by choosing what she chooses to do, she further courted it by parading herself all over television. It's not like she really wanted to sing and made an effort to be private and low-key, which is certainly possible. She wanted to be famous, and courted celebrity, and that's what you get Jessibitch. Smile and wave and shut the fuck up with the whining. I really, really, don't like her. And I don't understand what's wrong with Nick that he's there.

Wanting all the perks of celebrity with none of the drawbacks.

I guess that's par for the course with such a spoiled little brat like Jessica.

Somehow, I can totally see Jessica using the same words to describe Nick's penis.




That was awesome. And so true. She has talked about crapping, bloody boogers, she has burped and farted, and referred to the curvature of Nick's cock on fucking national television. I definitely think she is dirty. Not dirty like Christina Aguilera, who looks like she smells like an STD. Christina is sexually dirty to the point of disgust. Her look, clothes, attitude, etc. Christina looks like she was gang banged and thrown in a dumpster.

Jessica, on the other hand, is "little dirty boy next door" dirty. Like, she is into bathroom humor, enjoys taking a shit and letting her husband walk in to smell it, and thinks its cute to brat on and on about a booger that is causing her pain. She's just gross. She probably doesn't wash her hands after anything, not just peeing! She probably doesn't wash her hands before dinner, after dinner, after fishing that bloody booger out of her nose, after taking the shit in the bathroom that Nick walked into, or after sex! Oh wait, they never have sex.


My god I mentioned Nick's male anatomy twice in one post! I rule!

Why thankee KateQD. Jessica just offers so much to work with.

In addition to all the other bodily functions, Nick mentioned in an interview way back before the show started airing that Jessica sometimes has a bladder control problem when she laughs and it happens during a party that was filmed for the series. Well when the episode did air that part was gone and it's never been mentioned again. But I'm sure the article can still be found.

Christina may look like a walking STD but she has That Voice, and two Grammys which puts her ahead of Britney and Jessica in the pop princess sweepstakes. She will also have still have a career after everyone gets tired of Jessica and Britney, well, she's turning into Whitney 2.0 and starting to go down in flames.

a little off topic but...

Christina's ditched the walking STD look for a while now.

/back on topic

For some reason, Jessica's always (since the show started) come off as dirty (physically dirty) person to me.

Nick joins the series Charmed next year.

His wife is the only one that shouldn't have freaked out. Since I'm hoping he has seen her naked at least twice. But his daughters totally had a right to be screaming while grabbing their tops. I love my dad and I'm very close to him. I never cared if he saw me naked. But as soon as I hit puberty and grew boobs, it was a different story. It's actually very common for girls to get like that with the males in their family after they go through puberty. Not only that, but weren't there other people there? Like KC and a whole other family? I'm sure those women were freaking out a bit too.

Looks like we've found Alyssa Milano's next boytoy.

Privacy is not guaranteed by the constitution HOWEVER it is a matter of having respect for someone. Imagine people looking into your bedroom while you are doing your business? No you aren't guaranteed that privacy but you'd like it wouldn't you? And actually right to privacy is somewhat of a law isn't it? Doctor/patient priviledge, lawyer/client confidentiality, priest/parishoner priviledge, etc. Again, you just show some decency and respect people's privacy whether it is law or not.

Also a quick clarification. The reason people keep bringing up the Christianity subject with this family is because that is where Jessica got her start. She was a Christian artist before becoming a pop artist. Her father was a traveling youth evangelist and Jessica went with him and gave shows and then they sold her tapes and cd's afterwords. They built themselves up as this wholesome, Christian type family with all these values but now the cracks in the armour are beginning to show. Yes, there are biblical references to drinking wine and in church services drinking wine is symbolic to the blood of Christ however getting drunk on Easter with beer does not seem to be the same thing. Also those girls cuss an awful lot to supposedly be raised with all these values. It is almost beginning to look like they used the Christian world to get them to this point and now they are showing how they really are. She used the Christian speil and morality with the whole saving herself for marriage thing and it got her noticed. That is why people keep questioning their actions.

Oh that makes me so happy! Not sure why the happenining of his life bring me joy, but good for him. :o)

..perhaps I watch too bleebleeblahblahboo?...

Probably not because she was one of those special people that had to take life science instead of freshmen bio.

Imagine people looking into your bedroom while you are doing your business?

While the right discussed here is not in the constitution, most, if not all states have various laws against peeping. The constitution does provide a right to privacy. The most famous decision turning on this right is probably Roe v. Wade.

Back to the topic, I have no sympathy for most celebrities' complaints against the paparazzi. In my opinion, fame is no longer based upon how well you sing or act or do whatever you are ostensibly famous for. Fame is based upon people living through celebrities glamorous lives. If Ms. Simpson wanted to, she could have sung just as well with a lower profile. She could have stayed on the Christian circuit, or had a spot at the local tavern on Friday. Instead, she chose to go after the money and deserves all the trappings that come along. I am reminded of when George Clooney read his statement after Princess Di's death. When the paparazzi turned their backs to him, he immediately shut up.

Of course their are limits to this. Photographers should be subject to the same rules as every other citizens. This means obey traffic laws and respect private property. However, while in public, the celebrity, as well as the average citizen, is fair game.

I didn't get the whole car/paparazzi thing with Jess. Why didn't she put the top up on her car? I really don't understand that. Secondly, were the photographers's cars trying to run her off the road? (How many cars were following them?) I couldn't tell, maybe I wasn't watching closely enough. No offense intended here, but why does there have to be a car chase? I understand you're sick of the pictures, but why initiate a car chase? You can't be chased if you don't run. Can't the celeb drive to the nearest police station or something? If I'm uncomfortable with another driver on the road, I either stop to let them pass (which I know Jess couldn't do here) or drive to a police station; usually the other driver goes on their way when you get there.

Anyway, maybe I missed something, but I don't see why Jess couldn't have just put her top up and driven home at regular speed. When she got to her gate, she could have told the guard not to let them in herself - I don't get why she had to call Nick for that. I'm sure this kind of thing actually happens to her, and maybe my dislike of Jess plays a part in this, but it came off as more attention grabbing to me - mostly because she never put the top up. She told CaCee that they should leave before the photographer's car got there, but they didn't seem to be in any hurry to get to the car.

that's a whole other subject. What we saw was people looking at Jessica while she was out in public which there is no law against.

Actually, when they were in the cell phone store, and even in the parking lot of the cell phone store, that is not considered 'public'. The cell phone workers should have forced that guy to leave for harrassment. I am surprised they just let him snap away at her in the store. So much for customer service - then again, this IS a cell phone company. ;)

I disagree that she exploits her faith. If she's exploiting anything, its the fact that she stayed a virgin until marriage (because of her faith). Other than that, I haven't heard her go around preaching about anything else, on her show or anywhere else. In fact, I haven't heard them mention anything about religion on their show. They don't even go to church, it seems. I find that most "Christians" are only Christian when it comes to things they don't agree with. Whenever they do un-Christian things (ie things the bible says they shouldn't do), they make up all kinds of excuses or say that God will forgive them. I don't think that Jessica or her family are any different in that respect.


THIS makes more sense to me. I will say that neither of them are pushing this issue NOW, though. Everything I learned about their past, I learned on Jessica's "Driven" thing on VH-1. I haven't heard any of them talk about it outside of that, unless it was brought up in an interview.


I don't think it got the right amount of traffic. Before it was recapped the thread was huge. Afterwards, there weren't nearly as many people posting about each episode. (that's just my theory, though)


Most of the female popstars rely on fake hair of some kind. Britney, Beyonce, Christina have or have had weave on their head. Its healthier for the natural hair if it isn't being hot curled and pulled this way and that every day. Jessica's hair looks a lot better than most and its probably because its a wig and she doesn't have to walk around with ugly, ratty old extensions in between appearances.


It didn't look like a car chase to me. It looked like she was driving at the same speed as everyone else. It didn't look like they were on a regular street most of the time, especially around the mountains, so I would think on the highway, the speed is a little higher. Those crazy ass photographers were driving erratically and looked to be trying to prevent her from passing them.

*hahahaha* And so thats probably another reason why she has no clue about bacteria/germs and why eating food and then putting is not a good thing. Dumb as rocks, indeed.



And they will still whip out that "Christian" card whenever they feel like it. I know that normal people don't live up to the standards of their faith every second of the day and that even a minister's family is human and normal and isn't perfect, but the Simpsons act like they are perfect. Mainly, its this whole "using" your body issue. Jessica clearly thinks that she doesn't use her body like "Britney" and those whores *eyeroll* that work at Hooters and so that makes her SO much better, morally. I know she hasn't explicitly *said* those exact words, but anyone with eyes and ears can tell that is her attitude. And yet Jessica was, what, the poster girl for Maxim this year? And braless and in her underwear all over Rolling Stone (an outfit quite similar to a Hooter's girl, in terms of coverage)? Please.

Jessica, you are the stupidest hypocrite I have ever seen

Sorry - at that point in the paragraph, I wasn't specifically talking about Jess. (I did think Jess was driving faster than normal because of the jerky cam, her tone of voice, and her asking if they were trying to run her off the road. Admittedly, I wasn't paying close enough attention to tell.) I was asking why celebrities in general speed up/run from photographers. It just seems to me that the celeb knows that they're going to take the pics anyway, so why react and give them a better/bigger story/shot? It would take an enormous amount of patience, yes, but it seems that right or wrong, it comes with the territory.


In defense of the store worker (who did not look to me to be a manager), from his POV, what was the difference between the guy with the still camera and the MTV cameraman? Jess didn't look distressed (that I could see), she didn't complain to the store clerk or ask him to have the photographer removed, she spent a bit of time looking at the phones in the other case while the guy snapped her picture without complaint. Outside of a T-Mobile policy against allowing a photographer to snap pics in the store, what basis did he have to remove the photographer? (He wasn't photographing T-Mobile equipment or documents.) She did not complain. She didn't even ask the guy directly to stop taking her pictures - if she had, I think the store clerk would have spoken up. Heck, for all he could have known, the photographer was with Jess or MTV or some magazine.

I finally saw the paparazzi episode and I agree that they should snap a picture and move on.
I actually liked Jessica and Nick being together. This ep showed that they do have chemistry and love. What I liked about the Hooters argument, Jessica and Nick can have a different point of view and not act like they need to agree on everything. Jessica is a little sheltered and I think Nick explained his side well, except for getting that waiter in on their convo. The boy needs to learn to keep third parties out of his marriage, even Cacee was cringing.

I'm a Christian and I am not perfect and if there was a camera in my face all the time people would find an excuse to judge. I think Jessica has every right to say she is a Christian as anyone who practices Judiasm, Buddah whatever. Many celebs speak about their faiths and do not alway live up to it by the letter.

People mature in their faiths at different times, I think Jess's dad dropped the ball in some areas of raising his daughters,but he is not perfect either. And just b/c they drink beer and curse does not make them any less of a Christian than I. The family actually seems normal compared to others I've seen on tv and I think Nick's family just doesn't want the exposure which is cool. I really like the way he laughed at Jess's bunny face.

I know people think that Pa Simp is creepy and I kind of got that vibe when the camera did a close up of Jessica when Nick walked in. She looked upset.

I'm also glad Nick has a job apart from Jess, hopefully Milano will keep her paws off him.

If she does, she is a much stronger woman than I am! I'd be all over him, married or not! ;)

From the July 2004 issue of Cosmopolitan



I hope that clears it up! Jessica is not dumb and Jonathan is not gay!

Considering the snark dished-out by our fellow TWOPers over the Dolt and Gay Chris, this has potential for fun. His stint on Charmed did wonders for Julian McMahon's career, he now has his own series.

BAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Jessica is a loser and deserves to have Nick ditch her for anyone who comes along next. So I don't hope Alyssa keeps anything off him. Infact I hope Jessica comes home from shopping with Spacee and Tina, and finds them shacked up together.

I am sure Papasimps will make it alllllllllllll better.

Because that's sooooo much better than actually being dumb. Girl needs a beatdown with a sack full of doorknobs, stat.