I am very judicious in choosing the people I complain to about mr. maggie. I would certainly never do it in public, and never when he is around, and never to his family or friends. As an old married lady, I will tell you some advice my grandmother gave me the day before my wedding: never, ever insult your husband's ego. Men are egotistical and vain creatures and if you don't respect that, you are in for a very unhappy marriage indeed. There is no need to trash your man or woman to others. That's disrespectful and rude and ultimately makes YOU look like an ass.

And Jessucka had better be careful trashing Nick to KayCeigh (or however she spells her name). I get the impression that Nick's patience is wearing thin on many fronts, not the least of which being The Mooch. If he learns that Jessucka is talking smack about him to KaiCey, the longterm consequences could be very, very bad.

This episode made one thing clear, Nick yearns for an intellectual conversation and CaCee is an asshat. I guess that's 2 things and we're only 10 minutes into the show.

ETA: I feel Papa Joe completely used this episode to pimp himself. He uses every episode of Ashlee to pimp himself too. Of course that's only my opinion . . . based on FACT.

Word. I don't share our private fights or sex life with anyone else, either. This show should be shown in premarital counseling as a prime example of what NOT to do.

Didn't see anything? Sure, Creepy Papa Simp. That was probably the best moment of your life.

Was I the only one screaming "OOOOHH, BUUURRRN" when Nick brought up her skanky Blender cover? He got her. He got her good.

Oh, and something tells me that this wasn't the first time CreepyPa had trouble finding a hole. I mean, you know. Yeah.

I knew it would come back to bite me in the ass. I was actually beginning to understand the Nick love. "He's not that bad," I said to myself. And then tonight's episode aired.

I cannot believe he really had the balls to say, "I hate attention." In front of the camera that has been filming his every move. And then airs said moves on a major cable network. With his consent.

That actually replaces Jessica's lame "This is how Princess Di died." comment as well as her overuse of the word paparazzi. And granted she did say how she now "hate[s] this lifestyle" because of the invasion of privacy, but I expect stupid, self-pitying comments from her.

Did anyone see the strange vehicle the doorbell ringing teens jumped into? Space age.

Somebody upthread commented there were no books in their house. I think we saw why tonight. I know Jess isn't the sharpest crayon in the box, but making fun of the bust, setting the dog to bark at it and then laughing shows that family isn't just non-intellectual, but anti-intellectual. If Nick is yearing to have a decent conversation it's certainly not going to be with his wife.

The Simpsons are supposed to be soooo Christian, and Dad was a preacher, yet she doesn't even know what a plague is? I know more about Chrisianity than she does and I'm Jewish. Pretentious twits, the lot of them.

Nick can never get away from the in-laws, can he?

Better late than never- this the first time I have been thoroughly disgusted at this couple and the rest of their lame family. Maybe I'm just finally seeing things in their true light:

How can someone pass judgement on a person for working at Hooters!?!? Or a strip club, or anywhere when you don't know anything about that person in the first place

How can you say you don't like attention when your life is broadcasted on national television?

And the poor rabbits!! Having their home taken away from them so those godforsaken people can have their so deserved weekend getaway.

They should all fall in holes and die.

ITA. Oh God, when he said that, I almost fell off my sofa.

Nick seems like a normal, well-balanced person ninety percent of the time, but then he has lapses of famewhore which totally disappoint me, because I see the good in him.

Jessucka looked like a stripper when she went out to the pool in stiletto heels. When her family asked her why she was wearing heels around the pool, she was like,"I got your short legs Mama, and your big feet Daddy." I could only imagine Papa Perv thinking,"Perfect, a pair of heels that might fit my feet since I left mine at home."

Somehow, I thought a weekend away would just be for Nick & Jessica, not for KC and all the aunts and dogs and God knows who else. How was that relaxing?

Who do you think paid for that huge house in Palm Springs?

Did Ashlee really just sit there and say she knows nothing about the bible? Way to blow your cover, Joe. And way to be an ass - I loved how pissy he got when they were interrupting him.

I think all Jessica knows about Christianity is don't have sex until you're married. After that she is lost.

Speaking of which, Jessica was clearly taught to wait until you are married to have sex, but was she taught anything about maintaining a marriage? You know, spend time alone with your spouse, be nice to your spouse, don't let outsiders ruin your marriage, spend money wisely, etc.

I caught the rerun before the new ep and noticed that when KSea and Jess are at dinner alone, KSea actually suggests that she should probably move out 3 times! And Jessica poo-poos the idea and responds with "we hardly know you are there". I think KSea is a mindless twit as much as the next person, but she seemed to momentarily know she had overstayed her welcome and Jessica gave her carte blanche to stay - forever! I started to wonder if Jessica isn't keeping her around as a buffer so she doesn't have to deal with Nick as much? Very immature move and the kind of move a 16 year old uses when she is getting tired of her boyfriend. This is not a marriage builder.

Did anyone hear the reluctance Jessica had in her voice when she invited Casey to Palm Springs? She didn't want to invite her at all.

Yeah, I (sadly) have to defend Joe on this one. Someone asked him to explain Passover and then everyone kept interupting, giggling, etc. when he was trying to explain.

Someone upthread was talking about lack of intellectual stimulation. This was a perfect example. Joe was trying, but no one had any interest. MaSimpson was the worst during this. Actually feeling some pity for him having to deal with 3 idiots.

Just wanted to say that I love how Nick totally burned her about the cover of Blender in the Hooters/Strippers conversation.

One of my sorority sisters put herself through law school working as a stripper.

Another girlfriend of mine is paying for nursing school by working as a cocktail waitress in a very high-end Vegas casino.

I paid for two years of my college education working as a stewardess (something tells me that's another job worth their contempt).

Smart women do what they have to to get ahead. They may take their clothes off to do it. I'd rather make good money showing off my body than showing my complete lack of class and intellect.

I'm pretty sure that was a golf cart. The newer ones that seat four have that rounded egg look.

Speaking of golf carts, do you really need a GPS when you're on a golf course? How lost can you get?

Yeah, if you decide to marry a guy who is egotistical and vain.




Vermicious Knid, I wanted to scream when I read this. You are so right! I could never put my finger on it, and you totally got it. My best friend's family operates on the same anti-intellectual logic (or lack of? ;)

They make fun of all things remotely intellectual, and think it's funny to act "low class" at times. Good grades and going to college are so unimportant to them that all three kids were left to pay for it themselves, which is why only 1 of them went. The Simpson family is just like this. The women think it's funny to act stupid and oblivious to everything. Bonus points if you ask what something is and pronounce it incorrectly-on-purpose. You can tell that Jessica and Ashlee were not taught the importance of education and the fact that men actually want women who are smart. Well, maybe not Nick. Or PervPaSimpson.

If stripping only entailed taking off your clothes, that is one thing, but a lot of times it involves a lot more than that.

*raises hand* I did, I did! When I initially heard the reluctance I thought it was because the vacay005{00000000Jessica and Nick and Casey might end up spoiling it. Later on I see the whole Simpson clan seems to be on vacation with Nick and Jessica so maybe I imagined the reluctance? Or maybe Jessica is just as sick of Casey as I am. I can only hope.



Word. I was completely offended by Jessica's comments, but I also couldn't help but feel sorry for her because Jessica has led a very sheltered life. She doesn't realize the hardships some people go through to get to where they are in life. I have a friend who works a 9-5 job but still works at Hooters on the weekends so she can pay for her student loans. What baffles me about Jessica is she didn't see the relation to her Blender pictures and Hooters. (Her pictures are worse than what girls at Hooters wear/pose) She needs those type of pictures to help sell her albums, her whole image is a sexy twit! She makes money off her sexiness and Blender (though she says she wasn't directly paid to pose for it) indirectly helps her make money in the long run.

It's nice to know Casey has some brain cells and saw the valid points in Nick's argument. However, I'm still in disbelief that she played softball and yet doesn't know what a "double" is. I either call BS on her playing softball or she's just pretending to be stupid.

My favorite part of tonights episode? Drew! I forgot who mentioned it upthread, but it was strange to see Nick putting the solar cover on the pool without Drew's help. Drew always seems to be there whenever Nick is doing some type of installation, moving, fixing in the house. I love how close he and Nick are, I can only hope to raise my future children with that type of closeness.

Is that a big cross she's wearing in those Blender pictures? I'm sure she completely missed the irony there. The difference between her a Hooters girl. Why, she's a staaah, is on magazine covers and has millions of fans. Hooters girls are little nobodies one step above prostitutes, didn't you know?

Word to everybody who's said the cracks are showing in their marriage. I thought I heard a cracking sound during that Hooters discussion. Nick definitely acts different towards Jessica this season. And just when I was getting my hopes up that he would leave her, they show him cracking up at her not funny bunny face. So, I fear he's still a long way from leaving her ass because he's gotta be in love with her to think that was funny.

Don't strip or work at Hooters, just date a rich guy? Jessica, you ignorant slut.

So, they needed a vacation to get away? Away from what, Nick? Watching sports and lying around the pool and eating out at nice restaurants? Seriously.

Why do I doubt they went to church on Easter? These clowns are soo frontin' for the Lord.

If I didn't already know it, not replacing the divots on the golf course proves Creepy Joe is a dick.

Topless sunbathing is just... just... WTF kind of family is this?!

I'm not really buying that Nick is acting differently this season. It's already been determined that most (if not all) of the footage we have seen so far was taken from the same time they shot the second season. I see creative editing going on. The popular public opinion is that this marriage is doomed and I think the editors are just trying to show footage to follow that (established by the public) story arc. Maybe I'm being too grassy knoll-ish, but that's what I suspect.

I'm going to be perfectly frank and say that I think it's degrading and gross to make a living stripping and I feel the same way about the Hooters situation. But I respect that it is a woman's choice to do so. And I know from my own waitressing experiences when I was younger that being a food server, no matter where you work, is a sucky and often degrading job. So, I'm not passing judgement on the people who choose to do it. And also, that not all women find stripping or working at Hooters to be degrading.

But it's sad and pathetic that Jessica percieves a woman who strips for a living as being somehow beneath a "gold digger". I couldn't follow her logic on that one because (no surprise!) I didn't hear Jessica explain why she felt this way. I doubt she even knows herself except that it probably has to do with being married. Marrying for money is okay because you're gonna be married.

The thing I didn't understand was that Jessica insisted that the Blender cover was different because she didn't get paid for it. Whuh? That makes you different how? Because you'll take your clothes off for free? I'm not sure that makes you more moral or any smarter.

When I saw that the entire Simpson clan was on Nick and Jessica's relaxing vacation, I wanted to shoot them all. I don't know how Nick handles that aspect of their relationship at all. I love mr. berm's family, but that doesn't mean I want to vacation with them all the time.

When I saw the previews for this episode, I thought the same thing--that she should stop complaining and let them take a few pictures--I mean, really, it's not like she hates the money that her fame brings her! But while I was watching the episode, I couldn't help but feel bad for her. That must be way creepy having someone you don't know taking your picture when you are just trying to get your phone number changed or shop for a shirt. And getting so close to you too--(and standing up on a chair!) not just from far away. And I know they edited it to make it look like they were in some mortal danger when they were driving back, but that was probably scary...you could hear all the horns honking in the background while she was on the phone.

I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet... When they were all getting ready to eat dinner (right after the drunk mama bean spilling incident), Jessica was loading up her plate with food and took a pickle out of the jar. She took a second pickle out of the jar, took a bite, and PUT IT BACK in the jar. The camera was filming Nick putting mustard on his food or something, but you could still see the whole incident on the other half of the screen.

But - they don't automatically get the biggest room because they are celebrities. That makes them okay. Except, not.

So, Joe walked in on the topless girls. A great day for Joe. And Jessica was one of them. An exceptional day for Joe. Praise Jesus, Joe.

I could never understand what she was calling the crank callers. Was it crankers?



So true. I've been married a loonngg time. We snipe at and about each other. And we get along great. We both have enormous senses of humor and very small egos.

I saw that too. I even rewound because I couldn't believe what I saw. You could even see the bite mark in the pickle when she put it back in the jar. Sad, just sad...

So here is my thing, why dont these idiots have a gate around their yard so that kids cant come up their driveway and play on their scooters and ring their doorbell? Living in a gated community doesnt mean that your home is safe from invasion by people who alos live in the community.

Drew, we've missed ya. Where's Leigh, we could have used her snark as well.

Nick and Joe, if you cant be a gentleman while playing a gentleman's game, you shouldnt be playing. Even Arnold Palmer is not above replacing is divots. Fucking ingrates.

Once again she referred to herself as a celebrity. Someone on here has got to know some sort of famous person, please find out whether it is normal to refer to oneself in this way. PLEASE. Its driving me nuts.

As for the pictures and the gawking, I dont know, I dont live any where near a life like that, but I think it may be kind of cool and I think Jess secretly loves it. I can also see her sitting there whining about why they arent taking pictures of her before it all blew up.

Did anyone notice how pissed Jessica looked when that girl from Nick's high school came up to him in the restraunt? She was fine when people were asking her for her autograph, but not so much when the focus was on Nick.

WORD! Any chance of my dad coming outside while I was sunbathing - no way in hell my top would be off. Even if he was out golfing, I would be worried he'd come back early.



Just another incident that proves her immaturity. Although, my 7 year old even knows better than this. Seriously, that is the type of thing a 3 or 4 year old would do, only because they don't know any better. Once they were informed it was not proper, they would never do it again. Is it possible that her parents never told her that this was wrong? I swear, I don't know what those parents were thinking when they raised those girls.

Re: The Pickle. Ugh. She takes a bite and then what, decides she doesn't like it? So she slides it back into the jar?!? I could NOT believe it. It looked like a surfboard with a friggin' shark bite taken out of it. Imagine how freaked out Jess would have been had she been on the receiving end of that scenario. Turd.

I noticed the pickle thing too- she's a goddamn pig.

I cannot stand watching this show. Jess and Casey are lazy, no-class, vapid losers. Do they have any hobbies or interests? do they read ? do they like art? do they take walks and appreciate nature? are they imaginative in the slightest? are they interesting people?

NO NO NO and NO

Major hate. And Casey is even worse than Jessica which frankly, I didn't think was possible. I like Nick but have little to no respect for him since he married a woman like Jessica.

Also, Jessica's inner circle is very incestous. Her manager is dad, assistant is best friend, stylist is mom, etc., etc. How utterly stupid.

This is why she is mismanaged, gets lost, always looks like crap (worst stylist ever is mama simpson!!!) and generally doesn't have a clue. Why wouldn't she surround herself with professional people?

If you both say so. I will maintain that, as with all nastiness and gossip, it only reflects badly on the person griping when unkind things are said to others about a spouse...or anyone else, for that matter. On national television, which will no doubt wind up in syndication? Unforgivable. You're the one who married your spouse. If he is such an asshole or she is such a shrew, what does it say about your decision making? You married the person.

What I didn't understand about the jaunt to Palm Springs was that Casey was along for the ride. Is there no end to her mooching? She isn't family, is she? Does she pay for anything? Did she hitch a ride with Nick and Jessucka to Palm Springs? Doesn't Jessucka get tired of Casey hanging around all of the time? Who paid for dinner at El Coyote? Who seemed to be getting off at the paparazzi being around, instead of being disgusted by it (as she claimed to be)? Who paid for the Baja Fresh meal? Doesn't Casey feel uncomfortable, being so lazy and so transparent about her motives? She won't move out until Nick and Jessucka ask her to leave. That's my prediction.

Another person who noticed The Pickle Incident...I was sick yesterday with the flu, and seeing that had me hunched over the toilet again. No joking. It grossed me out that bad.

Golf clap for binkbink.

I know it must've been annoying for him to be unable to get three words out before the harpy-screeching resumed while they were eating lunch, but personally I'm glad I didn't have to hear the rest of his impromptu Perv!Dad sermon.

Since no one mentioned it:
I found it hilarious when they asked the waiter if he would date a girl that worked at Hooters! "...well I'm gay, so, no."
HA!

For some reason, I hate paparazzi. The thought of people standing 2 feet from you just makes me crazy. Maybe that's why I live in Nebraska, but for some reason I felt Jessica's pain for a moment.

And *gold star* to the person up tread that said Jessica's money is probably tied up in a corporation somewhere. (As evident be her wanting a new phone under her "corporation’s name".) I'd be curious how much her and Nick even know about the comings and goings of that money.

And what was the deal with everyone! of the girls wearing those Juicy sun dresses?!? I think there was one in every color! Sadly, those things are not flattering on everyone. With the exception of Carrie Bradshaw and maybe Jessica, they just make most people look saggy and short waisted.

Okay, a few things. First Nick didn't seem like he was too thrilled about that Blender cover. I wonder if it was an issue between them.

Second, Papa Perv seemed really just too happy about finding that topless scene. I watched that part on my Tivo several times before coming to the conclusion that he knew exactly what was up and set out to catch them. Could that be why Jessie looked so pissy while she sat on the couch after the fact?

And finally, what was up with the prank call that Jessica said her mother was responsible for? Who could that have been? Very strange.

I forgot another funny moment: When Nick and PervDad were golfing and they saw the jackrabbit. Nick said something like, " He's looking for your nuts. [long pause] Your cashews."

I'm confused about Jess' whole 'a gold-digger is not a prostitute' argument. The question was what should these girls do in order to put themselves through school instead of stripping or working at Hooters. Jess' answer was date a rich guy. I need money for my last semester of college... these rich guys - they will give me money for tuition and books, yes? And there's no sex involved, 'cause it's not prostitution, right?

Methinks I'd better head over to Hooters for an application instead.

I think most celebrities think it'll be cool when its not happening, but ALL of them regret it, especially when it comes to people stalking your every move. I couldn't even imagine having to try to walk down the street and have people standing that close to you snapping your picture. Why can't they just ask to take a picture and then leave? They're completely rude. That's what I find annoying about the whole papparazi thing. So what if celebrities should expect it. It doesn't mean that it can't piss them off. Those people who were driving in front of her were putting her and themselves in danger with the way they were driving.


Actually CaCee said "this is how Princess Di died". When Jessica said that to her mom on the phone, she prefaced it by saying that Cacee said it.


That was fucked up.


Jessica did suggest it. However, cheap Nick might veto that.


And next week it looks like she's getting Lasix surgery with Jessica. I wonder who paid for that. Skank. I hate Cacee more after every episode. I think Jessica didn't really want to invite CaCee but seeing that she lives with them, she probably thought it would be rude for them to leave her there alone while they were vacationing with her entire family. Though CaCee shouldn't have agreed to go. Jessica asking was the polite thing to do, but the polite thing for CaCee to have done was to say "no thank you".

I felt bad for Pa Simpson when he was trying to explain Passover. His wife is just as immature as her daughters. One of the other ladies there even looked like she was getting frustrated with her interrupting the whole time. They shouldn't have asked if they didn't want to hear the answer. I don't fault his preaching skills either. When you're in church you either want to listen or you don't. I was forced to go as a child and except for the basics that everyone knows, I couldn't tell you much about the bible either. Because I didn't listen. (hopefully that'll be the last time I feel sorry for her dad).

I hate the paparazzi as much as the next person, but I had no sympathy for Jessucka on that one. Oh no, people are surrouding you and taking pictures of every mundane thing you do! And they're not from MTV! Poor baby. Wah, wah. Oh, but maybe the difference between being filmed round the clock for the show and being filmed by the paparazzi is that she's not being paid by the paparazzi. Since we know whether you get paid or not is such a huge differentiator in Jess's world.

In their defense, many hot climate golf courses are Bermuda grass or Poa. For most Bermuda grass courses, it's requested that you NOT replace divots. The grass heals by new shoots creeping back over the divot. The divot just dies, so replacing it would block the new grass from creeping in. Often the divot just explodes since there's so little soil to hold it together. Some courses provide a little bottle of sand and seed-mix on the cart.

Most courses will state how to handle the divot question.

Probably the worst, because they weren't wearing anything he'd wish were hanging in his own closet.


True, but there's a difference between one or two cameras you invite into your home (and who pay you for it) and 10-20 complete strangers ogling you while you're out in public. Those people were staring, and that's creepy. Besides, sometimes I suspect that Jess and her dad put the pressure on Nick to do the show. Everything we've seen shows he's a pretty down to earth guy. Plus the money must have been tempting, seeing as their careers were at a low before the show started airing.



Not to mention: a) she's never even been in a Hooter's and b) did she forget the hoochie dance she did for Nick's birthday, in front of her family and friends?


Jess? No one's going to be able to trace you to your corporation to get your cell phone number? Are you sure about that one?

You know, while watching this episode, it almost seemed like a big F-U to Celebrities Uncensored on E! who seems to pride themselves on harassing people and then laughing about it when the celebrities they are photographing have the gall to tell them to piss off. I'm sorry, but regardless of a person's celebrity status, I don't feel that what those photographers were doing was called for. At all. I was glad to see another side of it. I mean, one could make the argument that "Yeah, she's famous, she asked for it, and she could always use the option of a large tinted window van to get herself around in, why the Hell does she have to have a convertible?" but at the same time, it doesn't seem right. It looked downright dangerous when she was driving down the road with CaCee last night. I f'in hate paparazzi. And especially that fucking Eli Woody. Arrrgghhh....

And I would give my right pinky finger right now for some of those Ghiradelli chocolate covered strawberries!!!!

Is it me or is Joe Simpson reveling in the fact that everyone who watches this show thinks he's a huge pervert? From the Three's Company skit where he pops his head around the door to the topless walk-in last night, you'd think that as one of the producers of this show, he's trying to give off the Creepy Pa vibe or something.

Jessica's bunny face? Totally cute. And Nick's reaction to it was so genuine that I couldn't help feeling that finally I was seeing something REAL on reality television after watching The Simple Life right before this episode.

One would have to know the corporation's name though right? Maybe she has several. I doubt if its something like Jessica Simpson Inc.

For all the defending that Nick was doing for working at Hooters, when Jessica asked him if he'd be okay with his daughter working there, he said no. Someone's daughter is working at Hooters, just like someone's daughter is working as a stripper.


ITA. At that one table, people had turned their chairs around to stare. Like they were waiting for Nick and Jessica to do a trick or something. However, the more I think about it, its probably because of the big TV camera that was filming at the same time that made the whole thing a spectacle. If I saw a tv show filming I might do the same thing. Though I think I'd be a little less obvious about it.

The restaurants, stores, T Mobile, etc., do they comp their services for the mention on the show?

Except the camera then cut to a sign on the course that said you have to replace your own divots.

They even showed it twice.


I agree with Nick here. Just because he's telling her that she shouldn't judge what type of people the girls who work there are, doesn't mean that he should want his daughter to work there. I don't want my daughter to be a stripper or work at a place where the ogling is guaranteed --- I hope to be able to put her through school myself so that those options would not be necessary. If I were in Nick's shoes, I really wouldn't want my & Jess' daughter to work there because Jess made it clear how she would look down on her.