Damn, that's juicy. Kind of hope it's true.. they just need to get over with now.

The most shocking part of this is that someone with Simpson genes got into Duke.

You beat me to it. Maybe she's adopted? Or they have tons of money?

Her father may be a perv, but he's not dumb.

This is in line with the announcment from E! a few months ago...remember they said they were divorcing and had to retract it?

I caught up on the Star and US Weekly....basically, Papa Joe banished Nick and Jessica and their wedding rings to Europe so that news of their marital problems didn't affect Ashlee's new album debut. *gag* They also said they have been apart for months.

I think Nick's plan to unspoil Jessica was perfectly acceptable. He put a reasonable timeline (5 years). And it was obvious that he did indulge her ... whether it was the $1500 sheets from season 1 (their money) or the LV bags for the dog (maybe her money by then ... but still ...). Plus he bought her lots of expensive jewelry and gifts. But I think he did want her to think a little more about money, and to save for a rainy day, and all that normal financial stuff when he was trying to "unspoil" her.

But, it seems like it's over now, so I guess it doesn't matter!

Yeah, it's a fabulous idea to marry someone when you find their personality annoying, as long as you have a plan for how to remodel them to better suit your lifestyle.

Nick is not aging attractively. I giggle maliciously at his hair.

I didn't get the sense Nick found her personality annoying, just that he recognized she was immature. Five years of maturation (at the normal rate, which Jessica hasn't seemed to experience) would have made a big difference in their relationship.

As well as unhitching her creepy father from every facet of her life. I would be willing to bet $340 million (my winnings from Wednesday's PowerBall) that Papa Joe was in Europe with Nick and Jess last week. He was probably just off camera organizing the paparazzi photos shoots.

Okay folks, let's get this right this time! Now Jess, put your arm around him so we can clearly see the ring, and photographers, let's make sure Jess's smile is the highlight of the shot. Thaaaat's right sugar, smile pretty. And Nick, damnit, smile!!!

Looks like Jessica is working her way through the Jackass/Viva La Bam bunch.

The only person who can unspoil Jessica is Jessica. You should not marry someone with the hope that you can change them. It just doesn't work. Nick got exactly what he deserved.

It's usually the other way around:
"Women marry men thinking they'll change them.
Men marry women thinking they'll never change."

But Jessica was very young when they married, and has not matured a day....

Not only that, but she seems to have let the fame go to her head and she also traded in the whole good-girl thing for being drunk or coked out, shaking her ass. I think that's the bigger problem, rather than her being spoiled and immature. Her family being all in the business can't help either.

ETA: I wonder if they would have gotten married if she wasn't saving sex for marriage. They seemed really in love in the beginning, but if he felt that she needed to mature, what was the rush to get married?

Have there been any public statements from Creepy Pa's former flock? What they are is so diametrically opposed to who they professed to be, once upon a time, I wonder if anyone has spoken out about his divergence from the faith.

At least anyone Ashlee marries will know what he's getting in the way of in-laws, so no pity there.

I thought the whole reason why they broke up before (when they were still dating) is because she needed to "grow up." I believe that was a quote from Jessica herself. Didn't seem to work I guess. Then that getting back together after 9/11 thing...hell, I think it was supposedly BECAUSE of 9/11, making them realize how precious life was, blah blah blah....not because, say, they were actually compatible and ready to get married...

At some point, waaay back in the thread, I posted a quote from somebody in the know who claimed that the breakup was a publicity stunt to garner attention, and they got back together because nobody cared.

Why hello, Hailey. How you doin'?

I think Jess should get with Wee Man next. Considering how prissy she was on the show, I just don't get her sudden friendship with Trishelle's leftovers. They seem like the type of guys Nick would be friends with, not her.

I totally agree with this, but I think there is a difference between changing someone, and perhaps helping them make more mature decisions.

My friend and her husband have a very similar age difference to Jessica and Nick, and my friend also got married at 23. She was a total spendthrift (but she spent her money on her Mustang, hehehehe) and he was a very conservative spender. He taught her to be smarter about finances, she helped him loosen up a bit, and now at 26 she own a home with him, two nice cars, and a healthy bank account. (And though they make a comfortable living, they do not have very high-paying jobs, and our area has a rather high standard of living.)

Making sound financial decisions is important, especially with people in Jessica's position. Isn't Mariah Carey rumored to be running low on money, and she must have made far more than Jessica ever will. I think Nick was showing genuine love, in trying to make sure his wife could be set for life, instead of struggling when she gets older.

Forgot this yesterday. In short, DoH down to number 50, only playing on 184 screens. She's getting more mileage out of all the divorce speculation.

No, and that is an issue of Star magazine I would buy!

I agree that two people, even if they're not so young when they get married, should learn to grow together and compromise to make a successful marriage. But Nick's main problem seemed to be that Jessica's family ran her career and every aspect of her life and that they spoiled her. He had no real hope of changing that. She's not going to give up her career, and there was very little chance she would ever step back from her family's management since they built her career. He had no right to think he was going to change that. This is her career and her identity he was trying to change, not her bad habits.

Plus his plan to change her was very one-side. He wasn't looking for compromise; he had a plan to mold her into what he wanted. And he got what he deserved, IMO.

Nobody deserves dealing with Jessica Simpson.

Had she grown up spoiled and indulged, I might understand her behavior. She didn't. Maybe she was spoiled to the extent that her parents gave her what they could, but it's not as if she comes from a $1,000 sheet family. She probably had chores of some sort to do, but she plays the helpless card. She whines and bitches and moans.

Nick indulged her. The stupid dog carrying bag. The gifts galore. Gifts she didn't even wear. It really ticked me off when he wrote her a long card for one celebration and at first she didn't even look at the card. ("What's in the box," cried out her heart.) When she started to read it, she criticized his hand writing. That was a cringe-worthy moment for me.

Nick, do the sports casting thing. Call foul on Jessica and make a new life.

Jessica looks just like Faith Hill in that pic where she is flashing her ring...

Re "unspoiling her" -- I really don't think that was out of line for Nick to want to do. He never said he wanted to "change" her. In the beginning I honestly think he found her ditziness endearing. It was the spending habits that he had a problem with. I agree that Nick should have known who he was marrying, but I think he DID know...she just changed too much, too fast, and got too famous. I don't think anyone could have anticipated the fame Newlyweds was to bring Jessica.

Set your TIVO, VCRs whatever you have, Saturday night Papa perv himself is gonna sit down with Ryan Secrest on CNN.

Which may be postponed depending on Wilma. So don`t set the TIVO/VCR yet.

No, but she has said that she never had to clean up after herself and that they would buy nice clothes, wear them and then return them. So she was spoiled in that sense. I remember on her sister's show, the mom had to show her how to clean the apartment, how to sweep and mop.

Yeah, Nick indulged her, but I think it was after awhile and he realized that's what it would take to shut her up and get the house in order. He likes to be handy and do things himself, and I think he tried to get her on board with that but it failed pretty quickly. Doens't help that her parents are around all the time, either.

I still dont buy it but this is from People Magazine...


Nick on Marriage: 'Everything's Perfect'

Wednesday Oct 19, 2005 12:00pm EST


When Nick Lachey hit the red carpet for a hurricane relief benefit over the weekend, he brought along a personal protector – his younger brother Drew, PEOPLE reports in its upcoming issue.

"For the record, we're not talking about Nick and Jessica," Drew announced to reporters at Las Vegas's Empire Ballroom as a subdued and occasionally nervous-seeming Nick met the media.

And yet The Marriage That Must Not Be Spoken didn't remain off-limits for long. Although Lachey, 31, attended the event without his wife, noting that Jessica “had prior commitments" in L.A., he talked to PEOPLE about the couple’s recent getaway in advance of their third wedding anniversary on Oct. 26.

"We just came back from Italy. We decided to celebrate a little early and do the romantic Florence wine-tasting thing," he said.

Not a hard place to feel romantic, si? "Hey, there’s no shortage of romance," he said. "But it's a very, very good country for that. So, yeah. It was a fun trip."

After wrapping up the red-carpet gauntlet, a relieved-looking Lachey spent the rest of the evening with his brother by his side, chatting a bit with pal A.J. DiScala (actress Jamie-Lynn DiScala’s estranged husband), nursing a few beers and generally keeping to himself – nothing, in other words, to add fuel to the breakup rumors. In fact, "everything's perfect," he said.

And yes, his wedding band was on.


ETA: from E!online
DELAYED: The release of Jessica Simpson's latest album being pushed back from Nov. 22 to spring 2006, Us Weekly reports

anybody else think they delayed it so she wouldn't have to answer marriage questions?

Also, in the first season of Newlyweds, she said (while puttering around the messy house) "I assumed we'd have a maid to do this." She made a similar comment about having someone to cook for them.

You don't have to be rich to be spoiled. Her mother did everything for her - laundry, cooking, cleaning. That's being spoiled.

for the record, Drew, no one wants to talk to (1) you about anything; and (2) Nick about anything other than Jessica.

Know your place. Embrace it. Make peace with it.

Drew is his manager...so it sort of is his place to say that.

Really? Did that happen recently? I know that wasn't the case during the show. Doesn't Drew have his own career to worry about? And if I was trying to squeeze the last drop of fame out of a fleeting career, I would look to hire a manager with actual experience and credentials.

Actually that kind of explains a lot. It seems his reality show has been dropped, I assume his label dropped him. He was getting exposure for Nick/Jessica specials, but that's likely over. What manager with experience and credientials wants to take on revitalizing a career that's that dead?

His show and album are coming out in February. He is signed with JIVE, he chose Nick as his manager because his feels he can do a better job than who he was previously working with. Nick and the rest of 98degrees was always very much in nepotism (sp).

Ha! That was the funniest thing I've read here in a long time, probably because it's so true!

Nick, get a grip. Your marriage to Jessica is your career now. I actually liked you and hate to see you go out like this, but get in where you fit in now.



ITA as well. I know someone who is nowhere near rich, but literally had no idea how to wash, cook or clean. Heck, we met when we were 15 and she didn't even know how to cross the street (no joke)! Her mom and dad did all of that for her, and she is now in her 20's and has never had a job.

Check out www.eircom.net and click on the entertainment section. On the menu that will drop down there is an article entitled Simpson Goes Solo. Apparently Jessica and Nick will be spending their third wedding anniversary apart as she does some charity work in Kenya. The charity is called Operation Smile and is to help kids born with cleft lips/palates and after she has finished doing her good work (which will no doubt be along the lines of "well you've got a crappy smile but to make you feel better about that check out MY perfect one y'all!") she is heading off on safari to celebrate her anniversary with HER DAD oh and the ever present Cacee Cobb. Nice to celebrate your wedding anniversary with your Dad and best friend and not your husband the man your married. Apparently Nick has prior work commitments in LA. No mention of what these commitments are exactly and isn't it funny how these work commitments in LA are constantly keeping them apart when they so desperatly want to be together because they are so happy and in love.

First off, I grudgingly tip my hat to any charity work anyone does. With that being said, this isn't the International Operation Smile Week That Can Only Happen on October 26th in Kenya event. Why couldn't they have gone one week earlier or later so she could spend her anniversary with her husband. As blown-up and over the top as Nick made their last one, (mostly just show for the camera if you ask me) wouldn't a couple that's sooooo in love want to spend it together?

I suspect this is another "oops, I booked you to work on October 26th far far away. You don't have anything going on that day right?" by her father. Much like them spending their first anniversary in Atlantic City in god-forsaken Trump Casino with her dad in the room next door. And if she's too stupid, scared, or brain-washed to say, "you know what dad, I think I'm going to celebrate the happiest day of my life with just my husband. I'll resume work tomorrow" then she's pathetic on top of being a heartless bitch.

It's like the keep PURPOSELY doing things that raise suspicion about their marriage, but then when the media reports on it, they're like "No, everything is perfect!"

I hope Nick calls up that young coed he was making out with & seals the deal this time. At least he wouldn't be alone on his anniversary...

Was this posted already?


Either way, I'm really just waiting for them to announce the seperation already.

Don't know & don't care. I don't think Bam should lose sleep over getting dumped by Jessica.

I have a feeling that this trip to Africa for her Operation Smile charity is basically nothing but a photo-op for self-serving purposes. This girl has no respect for herself.

I don't think it's so much of lack of self-respect (which I agree, she doesn't have any) but more of the fact that she has no respect for Nick or her marriage.


Word!

Our 10 year anniversary is 10/28 -- and my husband and I will have separate plans that evening. But it is because my husband will be taking our son to an event at his school. Since we look at our anniversary as the day our family began, I have no problem with my husband doing something special with our son while I'll do something with the other 2 childrend. We will probably have a champagne toast later that evening and do dinner out the next night. Regardless, we will be on the same side of the world! To be spending her anniversary with your father and your best friend is just wrong. I love my parents very much and actually enjoy spending time with them but I wouldn't choose their company over Mr. Murphsully's on our anniversary. Oh that's right, I forgot -- WE are happily married!

Her manager/father is ALWAYS booking her anniversary. He has no respect for their marriage and it has been doomed since day one.

Yeah, but she is not so young anymore. Even when she got married at 23, she was old enough to say "Look, Dad, I appreciate your trying to advance my career, but a few days are sacred to me, and my anniversary is one of them."

She seemingly didn't care, and obviously her dad didn't, which is sad. Even if he didn't agree with her getting married, he should have encouraged her to make it work.

1. Anyone notice that during Ashlee's Live and Legal special, that they showed Jessica for a split second when they were at the Pure Club? That girl looked both miserable and wasted!! No wonder they panned out so quickly!!

2. US Weekly magazine is reporting that Bam is confirming that the two(Lachey and Simpson) are going to split.

3. THe same mag. is also reporting that the Euro.-trip was not on the schedule until the story broke out about the split.

4.. Several mags have reported that Jessica hates Europe. How cultured! Not!

I don't know what to believe about these two anymore.

I think her CD was pushed back because the tracks that leaked sounded like shit. Really bad. Like.Hot.Garbage. I don't think her personal life has a thing to do with it because at this point there is no getting around questions about her personal life. For them to push it back six or seven months makes me think they told her to start from scratch. And if there is still any interest in her by that time, questions about her personal life will still be the first ones asked anyway. Because her personal life is her career.

I read on two music boards that (1) Sony said that she wanted more hip hop songs (2) that the stuff they leaked on promosquad got an underwhelming response and (3) Sony is against her hip hop hooray fascination but she is insisting on it because she is producing the CD herself.

As for the charity thing, I heard that the dates are picked by Operation Smile.

I want to knows what work committments does Nick have outside of being accused of chasing women? I know he signed a developement deal with the WB but he hasn't been on ESPN Game Day since week two. On the other hand you never really know what is going on with Nick professionally until it is announced. Professionally, I don't think Nick is overexposed. He is the anti-Simp.

I thought it was a good idea for Drew to try and nix the inevitable N&J questions at the ubid auctions but apparently Nick doesn't think so.

He should listen to his bro's advice. Less is more.

P.S. Creepy will be on Larry King Live tomorrow. Ryan Seacreast is hosting.

I had only heard "Fired Up," and that was completely shit. If the rest of the album was like that, I wouldn't be surprised if it was pushed back.

My friend interns for Columbia Records...it was pushed back because her shit sucks.

As for her and Nick..wait and see I guess.

I find it funny how she is willing to travel to Kenya for OP Smile, but didnt attend their Gala in Los Angeles this year...partying was much more important ya know.

Of course it sucks. Everything about Jessica sucks. Maybe Columbia Records will do our eardrums a big favor and this crappy album will not see the light of day.

Speaking of stuff that sucks, here are the usual suspects.

intouchweekly.com

usmagazine.com

starmagazine.com/news/61804

Why do these magazines (especially In Touch) always trying to sugarcoat this sham of a marriage? Its like every week, they're trying to put a happy face on their marriage.

She gave a free concert in Chicago that night.



Not from what I have read in the past year. The In Touch love fest just started in the last week or two. That was Us Weekly's former position.

Partying, free concert, its all the same to her. That event was planned a whole year in advance. The concert wasn't. I don't care that she didn't go but I just think its funny that its soooooooo important this year to miss the anniversary and go to Africa, but when stuff goes on for OP Smile here in the US she can't participate.

Shes full of bull and so is her dad.