I'm glad that Jessica was able to hook up her new web cam ("That eyesight thingy," I believe she termed it.) However, shouldn't that have been the type of thing for Cacee to do for her?

The alligator tourist trap that they went to looked just awful: stinky and the tour began in the gift shop. It would have been way cool if they'd gone on the swamp tour run by the nice lady who was on "Trading Spouses." C'est la vie!

How much did CPS whore them out for this time? Obviously Apple is paying for that shit regardless of it being staged for relationship purposes.

Nick was really a jerk in the kitchen, too. Pig.

I symphathized with Jessica when Nick was grabbing and pushing his hand between her legs. There would be no reason for her to want to have sex with him if he goes about it that way. And I think the comment "I gave up on trying to turn you on" reflects more on him than her. He might have gotten used to women being all turned on by him when he was Mr. 98 Degrees, and he can't understand that he's really not all that.

I think Nick and Jessica's relationship is like a lot of others that don't work out. There isn't the one who's all right and the one who's all wrong, but over time and with growing older and circumstances they just aren't suited for each other anymore and have no business trying to grow old together. Being in a bad relationship can bring out the worst in people, and I'm sure they'd each be more likeable people individually. It's a shame because they really were cute together in the beginning and seem to still love each other, but there's just this underlying frustration and disappointment that builds up and eventually you get to a point where loving each other won't be enough anymore and you have to find a way to work it out or give up, but finally giving up on a marriage can take years.

During that kitchen scene I couldn't help thinking that Pa Simpson was watching. Maybe that effects Jessica's behavior too. Imagine going about your everyday life knowing your dad is watching you and seeing it firsthand making editing decisions. That is just so strange to me.

I have a theory...me thinks a lot of this show is staged now. Not to defend Nick because he's the assball that married her, BUT I think he acted like such a cock because he doesn't care anymore. I think he's gotten to the point where he doesn't care about the marriage or what anyone thinks. Hence the grouping in the kitchen and all his rude comments towards her. Actually he has always had rude comments towards her, they were just few and far between.

Its all interesting because back in the day before most people knew who they were, and she was the sweet innocent virgin, she totally had him by the balls. I don't think he always treated her like that.

Jessica is fucking walking contradiction, I remember her interviews back before they were married, "oh its so hard to wait", "I love being close to Nick in THAT way" , " It's so hard when we have to stop"

now he has to beg her sex.

Nick should just leave instead of sticking around and being a fuck bag, atleast if he would have left before, he would have looked like the good guy. He is leaving it wide open for her to play the victim.

That's what I meant. I think he was already in the Baton Rouge house when the whole scene was staged. The paint in the Baton Rouge kitchen was the same as the paint in the bedroom he was in. It could've easily been one of the guest rooms. They may have already had the footage of him hanging the TV, then staged it with that stilted conversation.



BWAH!!!

There's no way to state how much I agree with all of the above. There's a lot of Nick love on this board--which I'll never understand--so I hesitate to dump on him too much. But I find him a nasty, lecherous, and somewhat misogynist pig. It would have been sweet if he pulled her aside and whispered about wanting to go the bedroom. Instead, he gropes her in front of a bunch of people. He treats her like an object. And I agree, I'll bet all his sexual experience beore Jessica was with groupies, so he may have never actually bothered learning to please a women.

It's amazing how different Drew is. Leigh may have acted stupid when she was around Jessica the first season, but they seem to have a mature relationship and appear to be equal partners. Nick married his virgin, sex-symbol conquest, and now after failing to train her to become his ideal wife, he's bored with her and treats her like crap. I'm starting to feel sorry for Jessica.

I feel just the opposite....I believe they LOVE each other dearly and I like the both of them HOWEVER Jessica is NOT very SUPPORTIVE of her husband. EVERY time he does something, she SHUTS HIM DOWN AUTOMATICALLY. She can NEVER say "honey that's nice" or "honey I'm proud of you" it's always "I HATE that couch"....."I HATE that song"...She doesn't know how to compliment him WHILE he's calling her beautiful alllllll day......She BURBS in a response. She's just there. I believe it also has to do with an AGE difference. I would love to marry a man like Nick b/c he's a mans MAN. He likes to fix things by hand, he CLEANS up his house, he's a gentleman "most" of time. Yes he can say snide remarks about their sexual life but this is REALITY tv so it just happens to be caught on camera. Couples say snide things sometimes in REAL life. They never said that they were perfect and for some to suggest that they should DIVORCE over this, is ashame. In my opinion, it's a cry out for HELP concerning the "sax remarks". She's young and SHOULD be sexually active soooooooo maybe a counselor would do some good. I like Jessica alot but I think she has a little growing up to do. I also think the groping was all in fun. My friends husband GRABS her ass and feels her up in front of me. They laugh about. I laugh b/c I'm embarrassed. I think we have some VERY conservative people on the board. Relax they're husband and wife. The husband is dying for some loving while the YOUNG wife is in no need for sex or sexual actitivity. lol Hell, even my man does that to me while I'm cooking. I'm sexually active so I don't care. See there ISSSS a difference.

Just because they are married doesn't mean he is entitled to play grab ass whenever he wants, especially when she was clearly uncomfortable with it. I felt uncomfortable just watching the girl squirm and push him away. Very, very uncool, Nick. It's her body and just because he put a ring on her finger doesn't give him the right to disrespect her. She doesn't want sex and if I had her schedule, I'd probably be too tired for sex too. Oh well. He needs to get over it; either divorce her or go jerk off. I used to be a Nick sympathizer but the man was old enough to know he was marrying a woman-child and you can't go into a relationship thinking that someone will eventually morph into the creature you want them to be.

p.s. I still hate Jessica.

Absolutely. I'm willing to put his comments about her breasts out of my mind, only because I like to pretend that he's never looked at them and he's merely repeating what MaSimp says about them. But I will never forget the scene when she jumped out of the cake and gave Nick a lapdance and he was RIGHT THERE STARING. It was vomit inducing. Not to mention the sweetest sin video and subsequent 'blue in the face' comment.

Now as far as the groping in the kitchen goes, I'm torn. I've watched many scenes when he and Jess were all over eachother. In front of Drew and Leah, in the amusement park in Ohio, at the club, in front of her family, etc., so I don't think Jessica was embarrassed as much as she just wasn't in the mood. She's entitled to not be in the mood, but she should have told Nick, "look, let's wait until later. I'm not in the mood right now". Instead, she took that opportunity to give him lessons. "Nick, why don't you caress me? That would turn me on more than...". I'm not a guy, but I would think that would send mixed messages.

I guess I just don't feel bad for Jessica. I think Nick is crude and crass sometimes, but if she hates it so much, she needs to sit him down and tell him. I have to tell my husband my feelings POINT BLANK. Men don't guess things in my experience. And he needs to sit her down and tell her what's on his mind. That's why I think they need counseling. They don't know how to communicate.

ETA:
As a new mom feeling insecure about her body, I would LOVE for my husband to leer at me that way. Just sayin'.

I am definately not conservative for one thing...as far as how Nick was acting, Im not concerned about it, because I think their marriage is already over and this is just a bunch of bullshit for the show. He was probably fucking around because he doesn't care

p.s. I too still hate Jessica

Here is a very telling and creepy picture of Joe with his daughters. Yuck!

*blink*

It's been a long time since I've posted anything but I had to share an "OMG Jessucka reminding moment that I witnessed today at Wally-World....

I was, appropriately enough, in the cleaning supply aisle looking for degreaser when a 50ish man and a late teen-early 20's woman walked by. As they passed beside me the man said, "A chicken is a type of bird...."

Unfortunately I didn't hear the rest of what he was saying and I never heard her say anything. I suppose that she could have had some type of developmental or catastrophic illness related problem or perhaps have been from some non-speaking European country, was just learning English and didn't know what the word chicken meant but I have to admit, the first thing I thought of was, "Nick, is this chicken or fish?"

Just a bit off topic but I had to share this brain bleaching moment with my TWOP buddies.

I don't know if this was posted before, can Jessucka read or write? She always has people filling out her forms at the Dr's office. She claims she can not read Nick's cards. I don't know guys, but methink the girl can not read or "wrote."

Baylor...looks like they got the "suckers" from Pa...

Funny pic though...Thanks for sharing!

Sorry for the double post...

Was in the supermarket and the cover of one of the mags (it wasn't US Weekly) is blaring out "Has Jessica given up?" Supposedly she's spending all her time compulsively shopping and avoiding Nick. Many testimonials from 'insiders' that they barely speak and lead seperate lives. Jessica is reported to be still furious that Nick had dinner with an ex-girlfriend and no matter how many times he tells her nothing happened she can't bring herself to trust him and even makes him sleep in the guest bedroom. Nick is hoping his album, to be released this summer, will sell more than her. Jessica is also supposed to be reading a new album to coincide with the release of Dukes of Hazzard.

Nothing really new, except for the ex-girlfriend part. But it's no more reliable than any other tabloid story. Is it bad that I'm hoping it's all true?

I believe that"""
There have been several pics taken with them apart...

Can she read or write?

Edited because spelling is important and I made an oops! Sorry guys!

That ~is~ a creepy picture, Baylor. As is the one next to it.
(shudder) Once again, Jessica rocks the heavy eye/nude lip look, and once again, it sucks.

Aaaand...This is where I was going to write something snarky about her getting collagen injections, but further research leads me to believe her lips have always looked that jacked up when she doesn't smile. So instead, I'd just like to say that it seems like the more pictures I see of this girl, the less attractive she gets.

Agreed, her lips look like ass.

And Ashlee should never ever ever be photographed with a side view again.

Explains why he had the laptop and camera set up in the guest bedroom....

I suspect she can do basic reading and writing, enough to barely get by, but has trouble with reading comprehension. I've never seen any evidence of the Simpson parents valuing education in any way, not even on a cultural basis. They seem to be the types that celebrate their ignorance.



If his album is anything like that little bit we heard him recording in Louisiana that's not going to happen. It sounds like he's continuing with the sappy ballads, which won't work for the MTV crowd that will watch his show. Besides, I can't imagine that he even has a fan base.

YIKES!!!
I'm de-lurking on this post a bit here thanks to that creepy pic of Pa Simpson and his whorish/funny-looking daughters...that was rather disturbing.

Even more disturbing is the fact that Ashlee actually looks prettier than Jessica in those two pics, which really isn't saying much...homegirl seriously needs to let up on the excess tanning and gain back a few of those pounds she's barfed off.
And I don't think Jessica has actually had collagen done, because from what I saw of her in the past, her lips were always rather poochy and weird---blame it on way too much tanning and lip-gloss a'la Paris Hilton.

Also, just look at the way Pa has his head and body tilted torwards Jessica while he barely clings to Ashlee...I guess it's pretty obvious who the Simpson golden child is if we merely looked at their body language alone.

The Simpson family is almost as revolting as the Spears family, eh?

I can't bring myself to hate Nick. It just seems like Jessica puts a lot of effort into looking sexy for everyone, including the general public, but her own husband can't even get laid by her on a regular basis.

I think Nick is better suited with a noncelebrity, down-to-earth, sports-loving woman than someone like Jessica. Hopefully he'll have learned his lesson that scoring a naive young blond virgin isn't necessarily the way to go. I have hope for him. Jessica, not so much.

Not to jump to Jessica's defense, but the Mac camera is called an iSight, so she was actually correct in saying what sounded like "eyesight" when describing it.

You beat me to it, ModestMouse. I think you're right. And that reminded me of when Nick and Jessica were having their i-conversation and he asked "Did you put it together all by yourself?" and she said, "Yeah, I did!" but I noticed she looked like she was holding back a laugh. I'm willing to bet that she tried but couldn't figure it out and someone from the camera crew (or Nick, who maybe WAS in the Baton Rouge house by then) did it for her.

Also, I agree that the snippet of Nick's new song that we heard is not going to rocket him to the top. If Pa Simpson is indeed his new manager, he should be telling Nick to update his sound and write something besides sappy ballads and lame dance tracks. One decent ballad and a couple of catchy pop/rock tracks could equal a strong-selling album in today's market. (No rap or hiphop, please Nick! unless it's a total spoof guest-starring Snoop Dog). With the "Nick Lachey Project" for publicity (it worked for Ashlee!) he might get decent sales. The other thing that worked for Ashlee was that Pa Simpson also hired real musicians to play in her band and help her write songs. Get a clue Nick!

A few random thoughts:

I don't know what to believe about these two anymore. I am suspicious of what I see on the show, what is reported by the media, and what they say themselves.

I like the show but will be glad when it is over.

Us is reporting that their house is up for sale.

I don't think Pa is Nick's manager. The NY Times mentioned that he was managed by Irving Azoff and I also read that his brother helps too. Yet his ex-manager still produces the show.

In the pics upthread, Pa looks pathetic. His look screams mid life crisis.
I think he tries to compete with Nick for Jessica's affection. The earring, the blond highlights, the bling, the sports car, the four million dollar mansion, etc. etc.

Are they taking bets on how long before Pa and Ma divorce?

For the love of God can she put down the pink frosted lip gloss. Ick.

Nick spent this weekend alone in the Midwest, or at least I presume alone as I didn't see Jessica at the RCA Dome with him. They showed him twice on the big screen during the Cincy/Iowa game on Thursday, and he was fairly easy to pick out in the crowd (even if I was in nosebleed) by looking for a guy in a sleeveless shirt with a HUGE bodyguard.
He sat in the Cincy fan section on Saturday, signed many autographs for fans. He was also very animated, standing up, clapping, I even caught him doing the CU arm motion in one of those "Oh, crap... I forgot people might be watching" and slink back down in his seat.
BTW, GO ILLINI!

No, me neither. I was an adult before herpes and AIDS killed the sexual revolution. But even though I'm from a time when sex, drugs, and rock and roll were all that mattered, I still find it unacceptable to grope your wife in public when she's begging you to stop. I also find it unacceptable to announce to everyone who listens that you're not getting it. He's as lacking in communication skills as she is -- using nasty, passive-aggressive techniques to try to get laid.

Maybe she's using that weird bee-sting lip gloss that makes your lips swell. I just don't think her lips look normal; they're freakish duck lips in that picture. I don't remember them being that weird before.

Well, I agree to an extent. For example, Ashlee's show is a bizarre twisting of past events in a desperate attempt to make it seem like her career isn't the trainwreck we know it is. But why would they edit Nick and Jessica to make it seem like their marriage is deteriorating if they're really happy? (Although I never thought their marriage was healthy from the beginning. That whole thing with Nick talking about his five-year plan to train her to be his ideal wife was disturbing.)

I didnt think she was begging him to stop, I think she was being her usual whiny girl self...she was messing around just as much as he was.

but thats just my opinion I, I could be wrong

Selma04, I'm quoting you 'cause I think I made it clear that I think you rock!!!

Anyway, I disagree with that part, though. See, I love his acknowledgments that the lovin' is seldom (and probaby rote and unimaginative) in Chez Lachey.

Because she put the topic on the table. Her sex life was her biggest source of celebrity, prior to the show. They were all like: "Hey everybody! Look at the virgin! This is Jessica Simpson, she's a VIRGIN! That's right folks, she's never had sex! Read about it in Us Magazine!"

And then she gets hitched and proceeds to sell herself as this sex symbol. Behold her writhing with Nick in the Irresistible video! Look at her low-cut dressed, her massive bazooms! What a sexpot!

I mean, 90% of her celebrity is based on marketing her sexuality. (It aint her voice, or musical abilities.) She put the topic on the table; she made it open for discussion.

So for him to pull the covers back and say "Truthfully? Image isn't everything. The reality is that, despite the marketing machine, the missus is kinda frigid, and the minimum wage slave from one of the square states has a better sex life than I do."

Why it just makes my heart smirk a little!

Besides, he wants to make sure the line of hot young women lined up to have sex with him is extra long by the time he and Jess separate.

The guy's only 31 or 32 years old. He hardly sees his wife and when he does, she doesn't want to have sex with him. Maybe he has tried to discuss it with her privately to no avail. Or since there seems to be very little the Simpson family refrains from talking about on camera, maybe he doesn't see the problem with it.

Hey now, when you put it that way I'm totally on board. It's almost as good as Kathy Lee Gifford's perfect marriage that we should all be envious of. And Charlie Sheen, he really slayed all his demons and became the family man. Snerk.

I just can't get on board with the Jessica is the root of all problems and Nick is fabulous and deserves better. She's a selfish, self-centered moron, but he chose her. He got exactly what he deserves, IMO. And I also think he's damaging his own career. If he doesn't have the image of the studly ex-boy-band dude with the sex symbol wife, what's his career going to be based on? Cheesy romantic ballads and zero stage presences?

I wonder if Nick and Jess are still going to write a book on marriage.

I thought a huge chunk of her celebrity was based on her lack of intelligence.

Hair gel, Selma04, interchangeable romantic ballads, zero stage presence and ....hair gel!!! The glue that holds it all together, zheesh! ;-)

Agreed about his suckage. When you choose an ignorant, spoiled princess based on her exterior, I think it's fantastic when reality bites you in the ass and you have a wife who basically is indifferent to you. Instant karma! Like choking on a piece of veal.

He made that bed of his; he can lie in it. (But do nothing else in it whatsoever! At least nothing that requires another person!)

ITA, only I apply the same logic to her. When you flaunt your virginity and your marriage to the perfect guy in the perfect wedding, I think it's fantastic when you realize that being a wife is more than looking pretty and flirting with your husband but not putting out. And when he continues to be the keg-sucking, groping frat boy type, only now you realize he's not going to change.

True, but I don't think he was really expecting an the upward career shift that gave her the ability to maintain her princessy ways. had there never been a show Jessica would probably be working cattle shows 8 times a year which is a totally different marriage. But since season one Jessica has gotten worse and Nick has gotten assier as a result.

When I watch I often get the feeling that Nick doesn't want to do music anymore. It seems as if he does it now because he's expected to as a counterpart to his wife. Is that just me overthinking the show?

I still feel bad for him, I think that he thought she would be better once they got married and he got her away from the parents.

Caveat emptor.

Right on the money. How far do you think either of them would get on American Idol? His problem, especially, is that he has his whole life ahead of him and if he's a famewhore, he has to face the fact that he peaked almost 10 years ago.

I couldn’t agree more with this. They’ve never had a problem with the groping in public before. She’s a frigid bitch, and nothing will change my mind.


No, he said he had a 5 year plan to “rid her of her spoiledness”- which I think we can all agree she has quite a bit of. It was just a PC way to say, “It’ll take me at least 5 years to lure her away from her crazy ass parents and turn her into a functioning adult.”


That’s pretty funny. I plan to use that some time very soon. :o)

Okay, I'll stand corrected on the quote. But the exact wording doesn't change my opinion in any way. You don't marry someone with the intention of changing them. That's a pretty basic rule of life.

Do people really marry other people thinking they'll be a different person after they're married? Has this ever worked, ever in the history of the world?

He married a spoiled princess. Now he finds himself married to a spoiled princess. How could he have ever predicted that?

Was there not one star of Dukes of Hazzard that was willing to be filmed for this? I almost felt bad for Jess, she's wandering around by herself, there was practically no one there to congratulate her on her wrap shot. Where's Johnny? Where's Seann? Or Burt Reynolds at least? I can't believe BURT would pass up free cameratime!

I used to like Nick a lot...now not so much. In fact, both of them are pretty insufferable, and both come off looking like morons, IMO. She's a ditzy, spoiled blonde diva and he is a frat-boyish, passive-aggressive has-been. They deserve eachother.

However, I don't agree that Nick knew what he was doing when he married her, exactly. Back when Newlyweds started, Jessica was a harmless airhead. She seemed very sweet, IMO, and I could definetly sense the love between them. As has been mentioned before, they were both 3rd rate pop stars, in danger of fading into oblivion. I honestly think it would have been better for their marriage if they had. Before, Jessica was spoiled by her family and was an immature, whiny brat, but now? She's a monster. And her transformation has in turn made Nick into a different guy as well. He used to be tender and adoring towards her - now its pretty obvious he can't stand her.

They really need to pull the plug on the show, go to some counseling and work on their marriage. It is my belief (and hope!) that once the show ends, their fame will end too.

How long after they were married did the idea for Newlyweds come about? The success of the show made it necessary for Jessica to spend more time with her manager and handlers, who happen to be her family, so she could give her career a second chance while there was interest in her. Could Pa Simpson be so devious that he planned this all along. If Jessica's career died, so would have her need to be around him all the time.

Ha! I thought the same thing. Although I saw a bit on ET last night about Dukes (and "Jess getting into those Daisy Duke shorts!" God, if I hear that one more time...) and they showed Johnny and Seann messing around. Okay, Johnny is dirty and obnoxious, but he's hot as hell. There, I said it.


Interesting point. I'd go so far as to say this was his plan to forever stay in her life and slowly drive Nick away. (insert Dr. Evil laugh) It's no secret how Pa pouted and was miserable during her entire wedding day because he didn't want her to get married. Fuck you Joe.

They didn't show any of her co-stars because she had an affair with Knoxville.

What we actually get to see of Nick and Jessica is interesting. Her parents raised her as a self centered spoiled girl/woman and obviously think the sun revolves around her. No man was EVER EVER going to be good enough for his daughter as far as Joe was concerned, so the idea that he engineered the show as a way of keeping her closer to him than she was even before she got married isn't beyond belief. At the start of this show 3 years ago I do think these two (Nick and Jessica not Joe and himself) were in love with each other but now as the influence of her parents hasn't gone away and she has become a little more famous and more diva esque Nick has justifiably gotten fed up with the constant intrusion and is probably mad that Jessica won't tell them to back off like she should. Maybe he is being so nasty to her because he is annoyed about this and possibly on a subconscious level to annoy Joe knowing full well that he is going to see this when it comes to editing the show. I also think Joe has deliberately edited the shows so that we at home see only an increasingly crass and insensitive side to Nick e.g the groping , comments about not having sex anymore, laughing at her mistakes. That said living with that girl would drive me nuts, she is so self obsessed, dirty, messy and untidy and slefish. And have to say stupid, that much stupidity isn't funny. We all make silly mistakes or statements from time to time sure but not that many that often. Can't say (if this show isn't edited like I suggested it might be) that I'd like to live with Nick either. He initally seems nice and down to earth but I think he can be a bit mean and nasty too when he doesn't get his own way. He should be more grown up and mature enough not to always find it necessary to comment on their sex life or lack thereof in front of people, once maybe you could understand but its just not necessary all of the time. I do think the end is nigh for these two, no amount of counselling will work there. They are two very different people (not in an opposites attract way either) with different interests, aims, wants and desires in life. So if you were to match Jessica up with someone post divorce who would it be?(don't say her dad) and Nick with who?

I think the parents' intrusion into their lives is a big part of their problems. But this entire season we haven't really seen them at all. Ma and Pa are primarily spending their time tending to the careers of Ashlee and Sonic the Hedgehog. And yet their marriage continues on its downward slide.

I kind of think they really didn't ever love each other so much as they loved the idea of being a fabulous, glamorous, Hollywood couple, and once that worse off, they're stuck with being married to someone they don't really like.

That "All-American Couple" on TAR reminds me of Nick and Jessica. Those two are really into being "The All-American Couple," but they don't seem to like each other at all. Every time he tries to kiss her at the finish line, she turns her head in disgust.

I agree with deelight, counseling, counseling, counseling.

Creepy Pa probably wanted payment for the cameratime. Either that, or they mocked Jessica the entire time they were on camera and the footage couldn't be used. We've seen how unprofessional she is, the lateness, the inability to learn any lines with words that contain more than two syllables. It's feasible none of her co-workers can stand the sight of her after working with her. I know if I had to work with her and she kept me waiting on a regular basis, I'd be spewing profanities every time her name came up.

Jess with Nick Carter. He seems to have no standards or pride what so ever, and she wouldn't have to get rid of that "Nicks" basketball sweatshirt.
Not sure on Nick though... have to give that some thought.


That doesn't mean they weren't there. I remember a few times I heard Ma's horrible cackle in the background off camera. I would however, agree about them spending tons of time with Ashlee and Ryan. Pa still pulls the strings of how much time Jess does or doesn't spend at home though, and I bet Nick resents him for that.

The problem isn't really that her parents are such a big part of their lives- plenty of people successfully and professionally work close with family. The problem is that she hasn’t appeared to have set boundries between personal and professional. She doesn't appear to get that she has started a new family that needs to function independent of the old family in order to be successful.

One of the first episodes when they were having the ongoing housekeeper debate, Nick made it pretty clear he didn't want/need/trust a housekeeper. Her parents come in and her mom says, "we need to get them a maid." Her dad says, "no, now let the married couple be". Three seconds later Jess comes up and both her parents say, "you really need a maid to help you." It's decided! They get a housekeeper.

Maybe not the greatest example, but in my opinion, ma and pa need to mind their own fucking business. They are her business managers and technically only have grounds to call the shots during business matters. Granted having Pa produce the show and manage her music and film career lends itself to quite a bit of quality time, but if it's putting a strain on your marriage (which we can all agree something is putting a strain), maybe it's time to pick. Parents or marriage? I vote she'd take the 'rent every damn time, and that makes me hate her just a little bit more.

You are so right about CP controlling how much time they get to spend together. Remember for their first anniversary he booked her into do a stupid show in Atlantic City! I think he did that deliberately and it put such a downer on the whole day for them. Then when Nick booked a surprise trip to Paris, CP got wind of it and tried to do a Newlyweds in Paris (not Hilton) special and Jessica was all on for it. In the end Nick cancelled the trip and on the sly booked a quiet trip away to Hawaii for them where he propose to her. When she found out she was excited and wanted to take along the ever present CaCee and Drew and Leah and probably the mad Miller drinking friend from Kentucky. But Nick said no it was just for the two of them on their own. Either Jessica doesn't WANT to be on her own with him anymore (unlike the first Christmas when the couldn't wait for the two of them to be alone) or she is still at the mental age where you go on double dates all of the time.