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Phaedra
but I hate people in the desert who want green grass, then need to find the water


Thanks for pointing that out Beannie! I too live in a Great Lake state, and just returned from a trip to California where my friend had to water her lawn every day so it didn't die. I pretty much never water my lawn in the midwest! People forget that LA is the desert, and watering the green stuff out there is pretty wasteful (in my eyes).

In college I took a class on the politics of ecology and LA gets its water from some interesting places...

On topic, Nick should move back to the midwest, specifically to my house. *waves to Nick*
jerry
the right ad agency could make the commercials as entertaining as their appearances on this show

Yeah, I would be disappointed if the commercials weren't funny. And frankly, I think Lowe's and Home Depot should do something like this. Right now, I don't really distinguish between the two, but if one of them signed Nick and Drew, I'd make a point of favoring that chain.
BostonPugGirl
Maybe she blocks things out really well because she's a dumbass dipshit.


THE funniest thing I have read all day.
the Gucci Kid
I don't care if those shoes CaCee tried on were designer shoes from Saks. Those things were just hideous. Damn freeloader, can't even spend Jessica's money with some taste. Actually, the section CaCee was trying on shoes looked like the sale rack. *gasp* Jessica Simpson, shopping in the sale rack?!
Preciosa
Ok people brace yourselves. Remeber there were some Jessucka moments a while back well I've got one to break the bank.

My mum and I were having a conversation yesterday and I was telling her that Mr. So-and-So was homophobic. My lovely usually smart mum replied, "He's afraid of home?"

OMG!!!! I immmediately feel on the floor laughing. Of course she caught herself and corrected it but I couldn't really hear anything after that cuz I was completely incapacitated by laughter.
juliaz3
but I hate people in the desert who want green grass, then need to find the water.


I faulted Nick a bit for doing that, and at one point in the episode he was saying "Darn desert!". The lot did look rather bad and not cared for. It needed something, either better desert landscaping (with plants natural to the area) or grass. I figured he was going with grass because he grew up in the midwest and was missing "green". I love the desert, but I grew up in the mountains and the desert, although beautiful, will always seem dry and brown to me. If I ever move to Arizona, I will be one of those people with a tiny green patch of lawn.
oldbabe
I figured he was going with grass because he grew up in the midwest and was missing "green"


Like Nick, I'm from Ohio and I completely understood his need for the green. I thought it was so funny that he asked the Lowe's guy, "how much would Astro turf cost?" when he found out what a huge job it would be to do the landscaping -- he needed the green so much, even the artificial stuff was better than nothing!
oboe_88
the desert, although beautiful, will always seem dry and brown to me.


Ditto for me. I live in the Midwest and although I love to visit places like Nevada and Arizona, the atmosphere just seems so barren and dehydrated to me. But they may not just be due to the desert, I have friends out West who say that there is water crisis near them that they are afraid will become a major problem soon.
schoolzout
I also was hoping that Nick would get some cool native plants for landscaping. Some are really nice. I live in No. California and we use a lot of them, otherwise, Mr. Schoolzout would be watering things all day and night (not like he isn't already, as we do have a lawn).

However, on the whole, kudos and mad snaps for Nick and Drew's DIY show. I loved it! I think they would be really good hosting a show, maybe for young guys or somthing, since most of the other shows are geared to gals?

I did notice the sale rack section too, I first wondered, "what are they, at Nordstrom Rack?". I could see Jessica going to the counter to get the matching shoe. LOL!

Any more news on Nick and his Big Brothers work? He seems so wonderfully caring and humble, I just want to see more of him, all the time.

I hope this Jessica obsession our country has fades soon. She is so stupid! Is next week really the last episode? It seems so anti-climatic... no more Nick or Drew???
oboe_88
no more Nick or Drew???


I don't even want to think about that.
Green
I know, I don't get why we keep getting more and more Jessica everywhere we turn, but Nick is always treated like he's nothing. He'd probably be content settling into a normal life, but since Jessica never will I guess he's just going to have to be content being married to Calabassas Barbie.
juliaz3
He seems so wonderfully caring and humble, I just want to see more of him, all the time.


More Nick, more Nick, more Nick!

Although I said that I'd be lost without my episodes of "Nick and Jessica". y'all know I really meant my "Nick". Jessica who?
drummergirl
I live in Phoenix, Arizona and most people have desert landscaping and a little patch of green grass in the backyard. We find a way to tie the two together.
maggiegault
although I love to visit places like Nevada and Arizona, the atmosphere just seems so barren and dehydrated to me. But they may not just be due to the desert, I have friends out West who say that there is water crisis near them that they are afraid will become a major problem soon.


You'd be amazed how quickly you adapt to the atmosphere in the desert. Now when I go back to Indiana to visit my kin, everything seems so overgrown to me! The dust does bother me sometimes, but then I look up at our blue blue skies and nonstop sunshine and think, it's not a bad tradeoff.

Regarding the water crisis, yes; Arizona would be hit hard, tourism-wise, with water rationing, as our many golf courses drink up a staggering amount of water. To my mind, let 'em go brown and let the golfers realize that we're all in this together...get over the grass already. The spouse and I already work very hard to ration water and electricity, because we're the children of hippie parents!

In a related note, did you guys hear that the world's population is now SIX BILLION? Gee, I wonder why we are running out of space and water.

Come out and see us in Phoenix; we'd love to have you (as long as you're not a 97 year old Canadian driving a 1988 Cadillac Seville.).
Ananayel
In a related note, did you guys hear that the world's population is now SIX BILLION? Gee, I wonder why we are running out of space and water.

It's worse than that, maggiegault. There is a calculator underneath, which will tell you population on dates from 1970 on as well. I don't recommend looking much beyond 2010-it's just too scary.

I am watching the marathon now, and Simp just finished "singing" to the poor guy at the zoo. First, why was she so obsessed about him grabbing her butt? Second, as a performer, doesn't she know that she should be facing the audience at more or less all times? She did this at that USO show she did a while back with Nick. She "serenades" someone, but spends the whole song right up in his face, with her back to the audience for almost the whole song. So, not only can the audience not see her, they can't even see the guy's reaction. There is a better way to do that, twit, figure it out. God, she bugs me.

I haven't seen the Nick/Drew sod the lawn ep yet, but I'm really looking forward to it.
Ashleigh's Mom
Man, those "laborers" were worthless! 
Union workers usually are.


That was a pretty rude comment. And since many people have ventured that the day laborers were not union, I'd also like to add - who the hell do you think you're going to get to work for you when you give 1 hour notice? The person sitting around doing nothing waiting for a phone call to come to work? Is probably not the best worker around. The union workers I know are all at work, earning a steady paycheck.

And Ashleigh's Dad is a former union vice president, which made that statement even more stinging.
bel326
I just saw the baby episode and I must say, that is least I've hated Jessica in a long time. And this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I think having a baby could be good for Jessica. When she was with the baby, that was the least self-absorbed I ever saw her behave, it bodes well for her if she ever does have kids.
oldbabe
And Ashleigh's Dad is a former union vice president, which made that statement even more stinging.


Just consider that the person who made that statement was ignorant about the tremendous contributions labor unions have made to this country. If that person has a job with a 40-hr. week, vacation, health and retirement benefits, it's labor unions who made those things possible for all of us.

My dad was a union worker for almost 30 years. When they went on strike and fought for better pay and benefits, they ultimately "lifted the boat" for everyone, not just themselves. Those workers wanted a better life for their families, and I'm very greatful for their sacrifices.

And you're right, day laborers like the ones on Nick's yard project are not unionized. They are considered "casual" labor, who show up at the offices that hire them out to take whatever work comes in. Where I live, the guys who do this type of labor can be found hanging out in a certain area of town and people will just drive up and say what work they need done and how much they'll pay.
quickychick
I just saw the baby episode and I must say, that is least I've hated Jessica in a long time. And this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I think having a baby could be good for Jessica. When she was with the baby, that was the least self-absorbed I ever saw her behave, it bodes well for her if she ever does have kids.


But babies grow up and whine and cry and vomit on your Louis Vitton purse and Juicy sweats. Then they start walking and talking and think they are the center of the universe--competition Jessucka does not want nor could she handle. Then they'll want to succeed on their own, something Jessucka will feel she has to compete with. I could totally see this exchange:

Little Simp: "Mom! Mom! I got a part in the school musical! I'm chorus person #8!"
Simp: "That's nice. Now let's go look at my gold album collage and talk about how awesome I am."
Miss Alli
Several things.

Unions are not the topic.

Attacking other posters is totally out of line, even if they say things that you powerfully disagree with.

It's not ANYONE'S place, except a moderator, to give the "Hey, it's Television WITHOUT Pity" speech. You don't need to moderate the boards. If you have a problem with somebody, report it to a mod. Otherwise, eyes on your own paper.
the Gucci Kid
I noticed Jessica has a Black American Express card. A little off topic, but just wondering: how much do you have to spend and make in order to qualify for a Black card?
Halo
I read you have to charge $100,000. per year to qualify for the black card.

And please, nobody let Jessica adopt a child. She'd just dump the baby with her mom when she got tired of it, and we all know how that would turn out. Baby Simpson-Lachey, the reality show. No thanks.
Rainmaker
but I hate people in the desert who want green grass, then need to find the water. ... If Nick wants green lawns I suggest he comes home to his green state! Would love to have him back!

I faulted Nick a bit for doing that, and at one point in the episode he was saying "Darn desert!".

I thought it was so funny that he asked the Lowe's guy, "how much would Astro turf cost?" when he found out what a huge job it would be to do the landscaping -- he needed the green so much, even the artificial stuff was better than nothing!


I've never considered Calabasas to be the desert. In California, we have green lawns, so it's natural to want one. It'd be one thing if he lived in Phoenix and was trying to sod his entire plot. I didn't think it had anything to do with him growing up in Ohio and wanting grass. It just seemed like the lot was abandoned and it was a waste of space. Now with the grass, he can actually enjoy the land.
I thought the Astroturf comment was purely a joke and admitting that the task was overwhelming. I didn't think it had anything to do with his needing of green, and I don't think any homeowner would ever seriously consider Astroturf.

I admire Nick more and more each time we see him doing these home improvement projects. Ultimately he probably ended up paying quite a fee for those guys to lay down the sod, but the initiative he showed to at least get the tilling done was impressive. What other celebrity worth millions would even think of getting his hands dirty like that? Just goes to show that he is grounded and still has those basic midwestern values.
oldbabe
I thought the Astroturf comment was purely a joke and admitting that the task was overwhelming. I didn't think it had anything to do with his needing of green, and I don't think any homeowner would ever seriously consider Astroturf.


Rainmaker, I quoted Nick's comment about the AstroTurf not because I seriously believed he or any homeowner would use that stuff -- I got it, it was a joke -- but because I thought it was funny he would joke about having a green lawn, whatever it takes, when he realized the magnitude of the landscaping job. And I do believe the motivation behind his joking comment was because he's a Midwesterner who loves having trees and grass around his home. Real grass. But not AstroTurf. Did I say I thought that was a joke? ; )

What other celebrity worth millions would even think of getting his hands dirty like that? Just goes to show that he is grounded and still has those basic midwestern values.


ITA! Ya gotta love him.
amani
What other celebrity worth millions would even think of getting his hands dirty like that? Just goes to show that he is grounded and still has those basic midwestern values.


Well, when you're as frugal as Nicholas, and you don't have much of a career, you have time to get your hands dirty and spend tons of time doing home improvement projects. I kind of doubt that when he was with 98 Degrees, he was tryiing to improve his residence. However, it is impressive that he attempted to do some of his own landscaping.
lizzyb831
I have a different opinion with the Jessica/baby situation. I think that if they had a baby, she'd TOTALLY be dressing them in designer clothes, and showing the baby off, and all of that. I do think that she would get tired of it at some points with all the late nights and waking up at odd hours. Or when they get in the way of shopping or something, cause if the baby cries, she's gonna have to take care of it, which would be in the middle of her trying on Prada shoes. But when they get older, I see her as telling them how they're "better" than everyone else. And that is what is scary. You see how the mom is, and you see how bad Jessica is, imagine what the two of them would "teach" the baby, especially if it was a girl. If it was aboy, she'd prolly pass him off to Nick once he got to a certain age.
Helter Skelter
I do think that she would get tired of it at some points with all the late nights and waking up at odd hours. Or when they get in the way of shopping or something, cause if the baby cries, she's gonna have to take care of it, which would be in the middle of her trying on Prada shoes.

You actually think she'd do those things herself? She can't even clean her own house or pick up after herself--she forced Nick to hire a maid for them. If they had a child, one of two things would happen: one, Nick would do absolutely everything, or two, a nanny would be hired. Jessucka seems way too selfish to actually devote time to changing diapers when she could be shopping or looking a US Weekly.
oboe_88
Not to completely change the subject, (no one loves talking about Nick more than I), but does anyone know anything about Jessica's new dog? I just read that its a poodle/Maltese mix that Nick gave her. How typical. We all know how bad he wanted a Husky, she reamed him out for it, and now she has the lap dog she wanted just because a little dog is the latest accessory. And because Nick is just that great a guy, he got it for her.

*GRRRRAR!* Jessica is a Bitch with a capital B.
amani
Maybe Nick should learn to stand up for himself to get things that he wants. He's freaking 30 years old. Jessica's version of reaming is whining. He's a passive-agressive doormat when it comes to Jessica, and I think it's pathetic.
goodbunny
oboe_88, you can read more about Jessica's puppy here. I lost a bit of love for Nick when I saw that he bought a dog off the Internet... the responsible breeders that I know are too discriminating in their choice of buyers to simply list them online for whoever happens to be willing to pay the money. Smells like a backyard breeder to me. <Sigh.> Oh, Nick...
Vermicious Knid
And they're described as living teddy bears, so you know that what she's looking for. I doubt she's going to be a responsible pet owner. Wonder if she started whining and begging for a puppy when she heard Britney got one.
kallaloo
Ummmm - can't these two have two dogs? I never got that whole episode...

When they go on the road...take both of them to the puppy shelter (or whatever you call those places).

Some of the concepts for certain episodes seem to be too far-fetched to be real. I truly can't believe that Nick is such a wad as not to get a dog because they couldn't agree on what type to get. And I find it hard to fathom that Jessucka wouldn't just go out and get herself a dog whether Nick wanted it or not. It's just a dog!

There's enough house there for 4 animals.

ETA: Oops...make that five...I forgot about the new break-out star, KC
AceBabeFire
I hate Nick. He's a dick. He makes me sick.
He's not cute, hot and doesn't seem all that pleasent. I never saw him nice and sweet, he was always moody and crap.

THANK GOD this show is ending! It's so dumb, and way boring. Maybe the tuna thing was funny, but it was only funny for so long. Nick ruined the show, so did Kasey, and so did Jessica. It was overall a bad show. I fell alseep during each episode. How it went for 3 seasons I don't know. They're lives are boring. I could make a better show all by myself.
mickif
Maybe Nick should learn to stand up for himself to get things that he wants. He's freaking 30 years old. Jessica's version of reaming is whining. He's a passive-agressive doormat when it comes to Jessica, and I think it's pathetic.


Word.
cjane
I noticed Jessica has a Black American Express card. A little off topic, but just wondering: how much do you have to spend and make in order to qualify for a Black card?

Didn't she say in an earlier episode that after AmEx gave her the Black Card, they weren't going to give out any more? Like they'd given out their allotment or something like that? Or did I just dream that?


Ummmm - can't these two have two dogs? I never got that whole episode...


I was wondering the same thing...
Helter Skelter
Re: the dog situation. From what I remember, Jessica's biggest complaint about the huskie was that it seemed "high maintenance." This coming from a person who decided that her new minidog "needed" an LV carrier case. The whole thing can be chalked up to Jessica's typical, ceaseless selfishness. Oh, well! Nick's the dope who married a woman like her.
mickif
Didn't she say in an earlier episode that after AmEx gave her the Black Card, they weren't going to give out any more? Like they'd given out their allotment or something like that? Or did I just dream that?


She did say that.
Ananayel
Didn't she say in an earlier episode that after AmEx gave her the Black Card, they weren't going to give out any more? Like they'd given out their allotment or something like that? Or did I just dream that?

You didn't dream it. Since it is a very exclusive invitation-only program, I don't doubt that there is a limit on the number of cardholders at a time, what with all the serious perks and all. But she said it as though she actually thought that American Express had reached the ultimate pinnacle of the program upon bestowing the card upon her, and no one else could ever hope to measure up. In other words, talking out of her ass, as per usual.

I did some research on it after I encountered one on the job a few years ago. At that time, you had to have charged and paid off in good standing at least $150K/year on an Amex Platinum. And I'm sure there were other types of income and credit history restrictions. Also, if this level of spending wasn't maintained, the card would be withdrawn. The annual fee was in the thousands.

Now, if they are really no longer doing Newlyweds or a similar series (and I have noticed that the announcers say "season finale" rather than "series finale" when referring to it,) and they have to rely on her endorsements (likely to taper off if they aren't on tv every week) and record sales (ditto,) her "movie career" (which has yet to materialize,) and Nick's occasional acting gig, I'm guessing the card will be withdrawn tout de suite. I hope Nick has a good money manager, that's all I'll say.

ETA:
As far as I can tell, Gucci Kid, it's otherwise a standard Amex arrangement, where the entire month's charges are due at the time the bill is presented. Granted, $150K plus per year is $12.5K per month, and if your income and cash flow is high enough, that's not really that much. Just a few trips to the lingerie store and a set or two of $1400 sheets for our Simp. The problem will come when her cash flow begins to dry up, and Pa and Ma Simp, plus CaighSeeh, plus mortgage, taxes etc. begin to reduce it further, to a mere trickle.
the Gucci Kid
Yet again off-topic about the Black Card, but what is the interest rate on the Black Card? I'm imagining it's pretty high.
schoolzout
yes, totally off topic, but I did a little research on this black Amex card.

see snopes website and Amex site

Seems like like the fee is $2500 a year and the major perks are an upgrade to the Concord if you buy a full price ticket on British Airways (now, no longer useful). It seems to me that none of these perks are one that Jessica would need anyhow.

She has enough "celebrity", dare I say it to probably get a reservation at some chi-chi restaurant or to get invited to the waiting lounge at the airlines (what goes on there, btw? my mind ponders so many yummy possibilities).

To me, having a humble no annual fee Citibank rewards card, that most of the benefit of having this stupid card is the "look I was invited" aspect vs. the actual perks. Jessica spends $150K a year just with the Amex? Sheesh!! How many sheets and bras and LV bags is that?

Man, it's times like this when I feel the world is so unfair.
mickif
If there is one thing I have learned about Jessica Simpson from watching her show, other than she is a total idiot, is that she is prestige obsessed. Need has nothing to do with any of her decisions.

I hope Nick has a good money manager, that's all I'll say.


I can't recall where I read this, but didn't J say that she and Nick decided to keep their finances seperate?
BostonPugGirl
If there is one thing I have learned about Jessica Simpson from watching her show, other than she is a total idiot, is that she is prestige obsessed. Need has nothing to do with any of her decisions.


Absolutely. She seems very preoccupied with appearing classy and exclusive. And you always know, a person who visibly tries to hard to be "high class" just isn't.

My point is, if you have to try so hard, and if it shows that you're striving for it so much, it's not who you are.
jerry
Woo hoo... I heard the promotion about Nick coming to Charmed last night, while I was watching Charmed to get caught up on the story lines (shut up!) before Nick's character arrives.

I hope he doesn't suck, but I'll watch even if he does, since there's no more Newlyweds after Wednesday. It would be great if he has a future in show business that has nothing to do with Jessica.
lyn1
I hope Nick has a good money manager, that's all I'll say.

I can't recall where I read this, but didn't J say that she and Nick decided to keep their finances seperate?


That was said recently, I don't remember if by Jess or Nick, but yeah, they keep their finances seperate.
AceBabeFire
I heard the promotion about Nick coming to Charmed last night,


Someone shoot me. He can't sing, can't dance, what makes him think he can act? I hate how celebs try to reinvent themselves. And cross over to new things. Who knows, the next big thing could be turning into transvestites...

Whatever happened to his solo career? Hahaha! I hate Nick. He's a dick. He makes me sick. Major attitude problem.

I can't recall where I read this, but didn't J say that she and Nick decided to keep their finances seperate?

I remember this episode, (I can't believe I actually watched this show!), and i'm very sure she did say that.
PorkFat
She mentions the money situation in this Elle article.

I couldn't believe how complimentary this article was. I expected it to be full of mean snark. And no one will ever convince me that this man-faced heifer is beautiful.

Edited to hopefully fix link.
juliaz3
I'm guessing the card will be withdrawn tout de suite.


Why? Jessica probably charges all of her business travel on this card and then is able to keep track of it for tax purposes. It's not like she's going to go broke on Thursday, the day after her show ends. So many people seem to think she's going to run out of money right away, but if she's put her money in any sort of safe investment, she'll have enough to live her same lifestyle for a few years even if she never works again or earns another dime. I just don't see that she is living so "high" or so out of control that she will spend herself into bankruptcy. All the "vacation" travel we see on the show is subsidized by MTV or in other ways (like the Kelly Slater surfing competition).

Their house is big but there aren't any gold fixtures or aquariums in the bathroom. I have a feeling they paid cash, so there's no mortgage. Yes, she spent $1,400 on sheets and she spends a lot on clothes and shoes. If she has a decent accountant advising her, she's writing off a lot of her expenses as being part of her business. And for all that we despise PervDad, you will never convince me that he is stupid about money.
Helter Skelter
Thanks for the link, PorkFat (great name, by the way). My favorite part of it?
Cobb, a bubbly Texan who is Simpson's sidekick as much as her employee, talks nervously about a fledgling romance that started out promisingly but quickly went awry. She's concerned that the Newlyweds cameras caught her talking about the guy. Cobb directs the conversation toward Simpson, looking for reassurance, but Simpson isn't listening; she pops a grape in her mouth and continues reading. “Jessica?” Cobb says over and over until Simpson raises her head. Cobb repeats her worries about being humiliated on national television. Simpson looks at her for a moment and then says, “Men suck. Except for Nick. I got one of the few good ones. I'm lucky.” She gives a little nod for emphasis and then goes back to her reading.

Could she be more self-absorbed? CaCee is talking about her failed relationship, but Jessucka somehow manages to turn the conversation back to herself. Her family is all about Jessucka, her marriage is all about Jessucka, and it appears as if every other aspect of her professional and personal lives are all about her. She is a paragon of self-centeredness. She is a younger, whiter Oprah.

Is their show really ending after Wednesday's show? For good? I absolutely cannot stand this stiletto-wearing, tan-in-a-can addicted, two-bit dunce of a human being. Someone make her go away. Now. Thank you.
cjane
Thanks, mickif and Ananayel, for the confirmation.

Ok, the Elle article says she was homecoming queen, but the article also says that Melker girl was her only "girlfriend" in high school. Don't people have to vote for you to be homecoming queen? Those 2 facts aren't making sense in coexistence. Good thing I have the spare time to contemplate the great mysteries of the universe.

But now that I've been from country to country, I've embraced every religion. I would never point a finger or judge anyone else for not having the same beliefs that I do.”


Well THAT I like. Although she does seem to look down on Hooters Girls (that conversation with Nick was possibly my favorite part of the entire series), I think she's still working on some personal issues there. We all have those.
mickif
It's not like she's going to go broke on Thursday, the day after her show ends.


Oh, I agree. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for the girl to go broke because it would be such sweet schadenfreude if she did. But there is no way that girl will be too hurting for money. She will endorse anything as long as you pay her.

Good thing I have the spare time to contemplate the great mysteries of the universe.


Hee! And word.
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