I see your point. I guess for me, I don't like listening to myself on tape and stuff and probably would not watch myself as I am now. Heck, haven't even seen our wedding video. I always seem to notice how my hair was funky or the weird face I made at some point. But, if I were famous, it would be good to see how the editing affected the episode and such. Heck, she's watching Britney on Showtime, may as well watch her own show.

I've heard that some musicians say listening to their own music is what they like to do.

For me, once I've created something (usually via words), I don't want to keep re-reading it, since I can only find fault with it, vs. actually enjoy it.

Perhaps that is why I'm not famous, and don't have a 160 IQ. I guess the IQ tests involve spelling PlataMApus, vocab words like teabagging, and math skills like rounding 23 to 30, which is "middle aged".

Mensa member here. Not offended at all by the generalization, but wanted to point out that it's not always the case ;)

Also, I think Ma Simpson was referring to Jessica's IQ score on a childhood test. Since your IQ does not really fluctuate (IQ tests are designed to measure how you think as opposed to what you know), childhood test results are considered valid (and as such are accepted by Mensa for adult membership.) However, even adult IQ tests don't ask history questions, they test logic (see here for some sample questions.)

It should be noted that a high IQ does not translate to personal, business or financial success. There is no relationship between IQ level and social or economic status. It also doesn't always equate to "common sense" (think the "absent-minded professor".) It's simply a measure of how well you can be expected to understand ideas/concepts and relationships between those things. How well (or not) that ability is developed or utilized depends on the individual. Some of the smartest people in the world are in prison or homeless. Some people don't believe in IQ tests at all, and that's fine too.

That said, I don't doubt that Jessica has a high IQ just because she acts like an ass. I think that she's alot smarter than she lets on. It's just that "dumb" (and blonde) sells, and she knows it.

DEFINITELY product placement. i guarantee you that they do not pay for meals whenever we (the audience) get a nice, lingering camera shot of the entrance/logo of where they are eating.

Regarding watching yourself...in college I taught a half-hour session that was broadcast to grade-school teachers around the south. It was also broadcast on the local university TV channel.

My friends took great joy in telling me what a snoozer it was, and when I got a hold of the tape and watched it myself, it was only two minutes in that I pulled it out of the VCR and trashed it. Because it was hideously boring. The curiosity to see what I looked like, how well I presented the theories, if I stood up straight or had any tics I wasn't aware of was there, but damn, it was boring as hell.

But Jessucka is easily amused; I can see her carefully evaluating how the LV bag looks slung over her shoulder, or sitting next to her in the car, or dangling from her hand, etc.

See: Sam from The Apprentice.

Entertainment Tonight is confirming that Jessica will play Daisy Duke. Daisy was neither blonde nor stupid in the tv show. And she was waitress, so Jess had better be prepared to dress like a Hooter girl. But since she's famous and getting paid for it, that must be ok.

But Sam seems smart - just off - to me. I can see him having a high I.Q. because he's got what I consider to be one of the classic symptoms - the wheels in his head are always turning. In his case they turn and turn and turn and never take a break long enough for him to notice the horror that is on the faces of the people that he's dealing with. He also has the double whammy of fast turning wheels and an active mouth. Those two together can be hard to be around. Fortunately, a higher percentage of high I.Q. people tend to be introverts than the general population.

Now Jessica - on the other hand - has got no wheels. She has no intellect. The highest I've ever tested is 143. There is no way she's 160.

edited to add that Einstein has been estimated to have had an I.Q. of 160

Well, for the IQ ... isn't it a measure of different things. Having musical ability can result in a high IQ score (which is why Mozart and Beethoven, etc, are considered geniuses).

Of course, this doesn't explain Jessica's score. :)

In the Vanity Fair article, Tina says the IQ test is from the 5th grade. I naturally assumed that Jessica took a 5th grade IQ test just recently and that's how she scored a 160, because honestly, there is just no way she is anywhere in the ballpark of three digits.

I've taken a few and have always scored from 126-129 and I never believe those scores. I did horribly in school, there is no way I am above average (intelligence wise). So I cant understand #1 them believing that score (if its true at all) nor quoting a score from a test she took in the fucking 5th grade. Are you kidding? Were the questions about the Power Rangers?
Give me a break Tina.

ETA:Long before this show aired her Driven was out and I can remember actually liking her mom because she seemed fun and down to earth, but now after seeing her behavior day to day I just cant stand her. Why is she trying to be a girlfriend to these girls? She's their mother for Christ's sake. My mom was/is the coolest but she would never go out drinking with me, get in on the girl talk with my friends, etc. She's gross.(Tina not my mom)

As was said, your IQ shouldn't vary by more than a couple points, if at all, unless you have some serious problem, like an injury. You should test the same at 6 and 60, IQ tests are normed that way.

So if she took an actual IQ test in the 5th grade and scored very highly, that would be valid. I simply don't believe that happened. There are a couple of fairly mainstream tests (like C&C) that score on a different scale, about 15 points above the two main tests, which would give her a 145 on the generally used scale, which is also impossible imo.



I have no idea what's on the Mensa test, nor it's validity, and all internet tests are really useless. The two most-used and most-widely tested and validated tests, the Stanford-Binet and WISC/WAIS, do indeed test on general knowledge like, as the person a few pages back noted, who wrote Faust, what's the speed of light, what's the holy book of the Koran, etc - because a lot of the basis of IQ is different kinds of retention and working memory. Real IQ tests also take about 3 hours to administer, and I don't believe Jessica can even pay attention that long. She's just a dip. I mean, she may be smarter than she comes off on the show, but to me, that still wouldn't exactly make her a brainiac.

To use my favorite euphemism for stupid: the wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.


My school made me take an IQ test in second grade. No words. Just bad clip art and shapes. Most of it was Sesame Street level "one of these things is not like the other" shit. The only other thing I remember is it was boring as crap and one of the questions had a picture of a squirrel. And, yet, I still know it would have kicked Jessucka's ass.


I read somewhere that the average college kid's IQ is 120. Think about all the college kids you know/knew. And there you have it.

GUESS WHAT? Jessica is now saying that Chicken of the Sea wanted her to be the mermaid, but she didn't want to. Whatever! She was practically begging them! Remember how she whined about that?! Geez!

Maybe she's holding out for the part of the CHICKEN.

http://mf.launch.yahoo.com/artist/photos/1...02757990/483299


This doesn't look right...

GAAAAAAAAAHH! *shields eyes* That is the freakiest picture I've ever seen of her!! That angle is so weird! It doesn't look like her breasts, why are they so weird and odd-shaped?? It looks like an alien is trying to push its head out of her chest!!! That's it. Now I won't be able to sleep. Again.

Yowzah, her breasts are about to slide off her body in that pic.

It looks like she's got them all laid up on a shelf.

I have noticed this. She orders, but NEVER eats. And I have noticed this every time they eat out, in every season. I haven't seen her eat anything except for a bite of pickle and some tuna.

It reminds me of that scene in "The Truth About Cats and Dogs" when Uma Thurman's character tells Janeane Garofolo that she loves menus because she loves to order but she won't allow herself to eat.

In interviews during the first season Nick and Jessica said they were not shown the episodes before they aired and that they watched the show together every Wednesday night. I believe this is true. They talked about how sometimes they were quite surprised at what the editors chose to air, and that seeing themselves was sometimes embarrassing but they also used it to say "Ew, let's not do that again." when they saw themselves fighting, etc. I don't think it's egotistical of them to watch the show. They want to know what everyone else is seeing.

Ummm...it looks like there's a boner in her blouse. Ewww.

It looks like she has on a strapless bra that really does not agree with her boobs. Strapless bras are a nightmare for little breasted women, and they definately do not work well with big ones.

Oh the sweet irony.

Speaking of Ma Simpson, a lovely quote from MSN:

Todays' Wall Street Journal has an article that spot-on to the type of "Christian" that Jess is.

http://opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110005335

That article is totally spot-on. Christian beliefs when its convenient. Ugh.

Oh my god. The Simpson family just skeeves me. Why would anyone tell their mother that? It's bad enough that I read that Tina set up the honeymoon suite with food in case they were hungry after sex. I wouldn't even want to think about my kids' sex life.

And Pa Simpson...what a pervert. I don't see how he was a pastor or whatever, because he comes across as a incestuous freak. He's way too obsessed with Jessucka and her sex life and her body--I'd be concerned if my dad acted that way. But with them, it's just another example of their "closeness" as a family. Sick.

This is true. She (and Ashlee too, I think) also decorated the room with rose petals that led up to the bed.

I would not want my parents anywhere near my honeymoon suite at any point, ever. God.

From schoolzout a few pages back:



Ewww. Hopefully not until she's blue in the face.

Tina annoys me to no end. I forgot exactly which ep of this show it was. I know it had something to do with Cacee, but remember when Tina had her little dog growling at the Julis Caesar statue. She kept sayin, "Get him Get him!" in the most annoying way possible, making all these dumb noises. Then she was like, "Oh baby, you don't like him either, huh?" Stfu, Tina.

Speaking of Tina, I always wondered if anyone else noticed how much she and Lynne Spears (Britney's mom) look alike? I know other people think that Britney and Jessica look a lot alike, I can only see it from certain angles, I really don't think they look all that similar. And even though neither girl really resembles her mother, everytime I see Tina and Lynne I feel like I'm seeing double.

Any thoughts?

Tina and Lynne are totally each other's even more evil twin. Jessica may not look like Britney, because she looks too much like CreepyPa, but Ashley (who looks more like Tina) is kinda Britney-esque.

That, and what child wants to involve his or her parents in their sex life, anyway? Our family is very open about sex, and I could talk to my mother in particular about sexual issues; however, that is different than me phoning her on a Sunday morning saying, "Oh God, mr. maggie gave me four orgasms last night!" It's just skeevy, and my sexual tastes and desires are none of my parents' business. For it to be otherwise is just unnatural.

I mean, come on. My father gave away his older daughter to mr. maggie; he knew full well that we would be bumping uglies on the honeymoon, and that we had for years before, as we were living together! However, it wasn't a topic of discussion between me and Dad, and neither of us would ever have wanted it to be.

This whole bit with the chastity ring and the being bound to Pa Simpson and the toplessness and the virginity bit thrown in our face whenever and wherever...I don't like it. It all seems very forced, very false.

Thanks. I was thinking I was the only one. I guess I can sort of see the Ashlee/Britney resemblence. But I just always am struck by how their mother's look almost exactly alike.

Right on. THere is a big difference between being able to discuss sex and birth control with parents, and having both parties be aware of the existence of sex, and that it is part of life and nothing to be ashamed about. But to tell you parents when specifically you are having sex? Ewwwww. None of their business.

I think the Simpsons think they are being progressive because they can openly discuss sex with their daughter, but their obsession with Jessucka's body and sex life show just how repressed they really are.

Does anyone else think Jessica and Nick weren't doing it right, at least in the beginning? I've never heard of a girl loosing her virginity and thinking it was "amazing". It takes a while to get the hang of things. Especially because Jessica would have never, ahem, made herself climax before they were married, I just don't see how the sex could have been so damn good right off the bat. I love me some Nick Lachey and all, but can he really be that f***ing good?

I have always thought they look so much alike. It is really strange. Because the daughters really do not look like their moms all that much, but the two moms are strangely identical looking.

Too true, Jensgirl. I've always though she was lying with the whole sex was amazing on the honeymoon bit. Methinks she really thought it was amazing in the sense that she just assumed that this was the big hoopla everyone was talking about. Maybe she's never had truly amazing sex 'cause she didnt know that it only got better with time and the more times you do it. I doubt she would admit to anyone that sex with Nick Lachey was anything short of spectacular.

jensgirl Very interesting point. Of course, Tina could have been lying or Jess could have been lying as well either about it being so awesome or being a virgin.

Thats exactly what I mean. Its just a little bizarre to me.

Well, KC says that she can hear Jessica when they have sex... I think that they all throw her sex stuff around is because they were claiming the whole virgin before marriage FOREVER. So they're like, ok she waited, now she can do whatever the hell she wants. But it's just gross that her family knows that much about her sex life. I wonder if Nick is embarassed about it???

I was looking at pics of Jessica and they had some when she was younger and first started out. She had brown hair! I can't believe how much she's bleached it! I laugh when I see her have roots. Supposedly she has all these expensive hair sessions, like $4000. Oh, why does she wear hair pieces??

At first he seemed OK with it, sensitive and easy-going that he is, but after awhile he started just declining to talk about it. IMO he put up with it for a lot longer than he should have, considering that it pretty much just became a publicity tool for Jessica.

I still laugh about Asslee tooling around LA in her convertible and some random dude yells out, "Britney Spears!!" The look on her face when she retorted, "nooooooooo, NOT Britney Spears mutherfuker!" was priceless.

Embrace your inner brunette! Brooke Burns (Bruce Willis's ex) did it, and look how good she looks.

Very few people over the age of 5 naturally have hair that bleached out. Although what sort of a career would she have being a dumb brunette? No dummies allowed in our club.

Heh.

Regardless of what she said, I bet she was thinking, "I don't see what all the fuss is about." Come to think of it, didn't she say something similar, last season?

Tina and Lynne do look a lot alike. That's pretty odd.

This is sort of on a different topic, but does anyone else watch Asslee's show? Tina is to Asslee as Joe is to Jessica. Tina's always hanging around Asslee and her friends, trying to be cool or whatever. Those parents need to take a step back and let their kids live their own lives. I really don't know how Nick puts up with his in-laws hanging around so much. We never see his parents butting in all the time.

I think the Simpsons are skeevy, while the Lacheys are much more down to earth. Having Drew around always cracks me up, but the Simpsons? Not so much.

So all the moaning CaCee is hearing through the wall is just Jessucka asking if Nick is done yet? "Niii-ick? Aren't you done yet. I'm booooored."

Actually, when I lost my virginity, it was pretty awesome. In fact, after it was over, I believe the first thing I said was, "Can we do that again?"

But then again, this is Jessica Simpson, so... we'll just say that she's full of crap and go on with our lives. It makes us all feel better.

Hee! You're right!

I will admit that whatever they do to her hair does look pretty good.

I still don't know why everyone bought the virgin train ticket. Everything else Jessucka has ever said is crap. That girl did not wait for marriage. I think of all the stupid things that she says, that blatant lie is the worst. It was her gimic to make herself set apart from Britney and Christina.

I. Hate. Her.

Because although we don't hear a lot about it, it's not that unusual. Yes, it's probably a lot more likely that one would lose their virginity prior to marriage, but plenty of people wait until then. I don't buy a lot of what comes out of Jessica's mouth [dirty!] but I'm just not questioning or taking a side on what is one of the most personal decisions one can make. Not an attack on any poster; just saying I will give her the benefit of the doubt on this point, and only this one.

Ewwwww. I beg your forgiveness for having just defended Jessica. I feel a little empty inside. May I add then that I can't stand her, that I think it's squicky at the very least to tell one's parents extremely intimate sexual details (and for parents to blab that to magazines), and..... oh yeah, FREE NICK!

Word. This show is becoming very uncomfortable for me to watch, not because of Jessucka's schtick, or KCeigh's mooching, but because Nick looks positively miserable.

He's just a bloke, an average bloke, who just so happens to have been in a band, and who just so happens to be magically delicious (I'd frost his Lucky Charms any time). He doesn't seem at all caught up in the Los Angeles lifestyle, and I could see him being just as happy buying a nice house near his family in Ohio, having some children, banking what's left of his earnings, and getting a decent job.

Sorry, but film doesn't lie: the man has dissatisfaction written all over his face. Frankly, I'm surprised that Nick married her in the first place, and there is an element of Bed. Made. Lie. to it, but he wouldn't be the first married person to live a year or two in a marriage and realize he made a yooge mistake. Personally, I don't think Jessucka is all that good looking, but to my mind, her ignorance, laziness, and whining make her absolutely ugly. (My God. How can you get to any position of fame or fortune and not know who General Robert E. Lee is? Does she never watch The History Channel?) No PERSON would want to be around someone like that for long, much less no husband. You can only have so many conversations about Louis Vuitton, you know?