I totally agree - I hope Ivanka comes back. Carolyn proved that she has NO class, with that stupid comment about not even knowing who Pepi was. I got so used to Ivanka that Carolyn's lack of class really pissed me off.

I'd always wondered why she looks so dour in the boardroom, but after the scary faces she made tonight when she was laughing, I can understand why she keeps a lid on the smile. Brrr...

I guess something hilarious must have been going on because she wasn't just laughing about Pepi, she was laughing during the entire boardroom. I'm probably not being totally fair to her.

She needs to eat more, she's looking too skinny now.

I thought she glanced at Pepi early on and then chuckled to herself and that it just grew until it bubbled over after everyone had left. Ugh...this is why I hate this show. I can't watch it anymore. I may catch the final epi, simply because I've watched every other episode, but this grotesque parade of truly awful and unprofessional behavior turns my stomach.

Ugh. Smug, condescending bitchface all throughout.

I always though she was overrated relative to George (and even Bill) and that she has been phoning in her performances for the last few seasons. The worst moment for me was the time in S1 when Versacorp won the flea market task by a huge amount. Instead of taking Protege to task for an absolute disaster (far worse that the performance which prompted a quadruple firing in season four) or congratualting Nick's team she starts of on a silly little rant about the fact that they didn't offer much plus size clothing. Despite being totally misdirected and irrelevant it also made her a little bit silly for demonstrating that while she may be able to supervise the running of a (small) golf course she didn't know anything about retail or the type of audience that they were selling to.

To be fair, Carolyn wasn't there that week when Pepi got fired, Ivanka was. Also he was gone just after the second week, so he probably wouldn't have left a strong impression on her. I just thought it was funny when she started laughing about it with Trump.

I don't have a problem with her getting the giggles. I might have too. The lack of class comes from the editors for leaving that in.

If she hadn't been laughing at him in the first place, the editors couldn't have shown the scene.

I wonder if she got a lot of negative reactions for that little scene, because she was very low-key at this finale.

I wish she could have just said, "You both suck". As much as I complain about her, I would have loved her for that.

Something I hope Carolyn remembers at some point...Chris from last season was fired in episode 2, just like Pepi this season. She didn't seem upset when Rebecca chose him.

Why does it matter when someone was fired as to how good they are? Candidates get eliminated when they supposedly screw up. That screw up can occur in week one or further down the road. When someone gets eliminated, unlike in Survivor, really does not indicate someone's value or rank. Eliminations are not based on someone's cumulative worth. Just a silly criteria for Carolyn to use as to whether someone is competent. Brent lasted longer then Pepi, should Lee have chosen Brent? No, of course not, so Carolyn laughing at picking Pepi is both offensive and stupid on her part. The only thing that can be said is that Pepi lacks familiarity with the process since he has been gone so long, but that is minor, so really nothing to laugh at him about.

Trump, at the finale, saying about Pepi, that he is "getting a bad rap". Trump, Pepi was not "getting a bad rap", you and Carolyn are making fun of him. How is that getting a bad rap like the rest of us are disparaging him? The only one to say anything besides Trump and Carolyn was Sean and the candidates say a lot of negative things about each other, so that put down is minor.

Carolyn is always the expert on how to act after the fact. She decides, as both judge and juror, what is important and what should have been done. She couldn't even articulate a preference after explicitly saying she was going to do just that. Ivanka needs to be the regular viceroy. Enough with Carolyn with her bitchy put downs only to those candidates that she does not admire.

I agree that Carolyn's reaction to Pepi was awkward, to say the least.
I took it as her ridiculing Lee for his choices, not putting Pepi down. The awkward part of it is in that Pepi got ‘hit’ by association – he became sort of a collateral victim. Coming from lady Carolyn, who is always so proper, was somewhat surprising and disappointing on one hand. On the other hand, Carolyn is human – she made a mistake. Hope Pepi got over it.

What bugs me about Carolyn is that while I don't doubt her job is a tough one, she runs a golf course. That requires some skill sets, but they aren't necessarily the same skill sets that would win the variety of tasks that Trump/MB cooks up. In other words, if Carolyn was a candidate, she might make the same dumb mistakes the candidates make. And this is something Trump, George, Bill, and Ivanka all seem to understand to a degree. But Carolyn seems to think these candidates are sacks of shit for ... making a mistake. She adopts a really disrespectful tone with them that I find very off-putting, and quite frankly comes across as camera-mugging. And the strange thing is, in the interviews of her I've seen outside the show, she's very low-key and respectful of the candidates (except for Omarosa). So on the one hand, she does seem to understand that making a mistake does not equal stupid, but why can't she behave like that on the show?

Oh my GOD! He fired Carolyn! Bastard!

Was it inevitable? "Trump to Carolyn: you're fired!"

I saw the printed story this morning, and I think the line that struck me was:
"She became a prima donna" said one insider.
1. Actually, I kind of noticed that from watching the show.
2. HA! Oh no! A prima donna in the Trump organization!

You know, I wish I could feel sorry for Carolyn, but I can't. Unlike George, she seemed to take active glee in firing candidates. In the past season especially, she's harped on any little weakness in a candidate with that icy smirk. Like she's never done dumb shit on the job in her life. So Carolyn, you're fired. Doesn't feel so good anymore, does it? Payback's a bitch, that's all I can say.

Mark Burnett is probably pissed. If Trump had told him earlier, he probably would have sent a film crew in to film that firing. Then again, maybe they did. They might air it for sweeps.

This makes me sad. I know Carolyn's demeanor had changed somewhat over the seasons, but I still have a lot of fondness for the way she conducted herself in the early days of the show. I still strongly identify her with the time when I adored this show, and I think she was part of the reason the show was a success in the first place.

Maybe Trump was justified, I don't know. But I have a sneaking suspicion it was as much to do with wanting Ivanka to replace Carolyn on the show on a full-time basis. Ivanka does a great job, so I don't blame her. But with Carolyn gone, that's just one less reason for me to watch the show.

OK, I can see Trump firing Carolyn from his show, since that wasn't her primary job with the Trump organization. But to just fire her outright? I don't know.

Good for her, though, getting fired rather than quitting. I'm sure ol' DT is going to have to pony up some big bones in severance.

And I've always thought that she was too good to be in his dog and pony show. Plus, he's such a disgusting letch, I don't know how she put up with him for as long as she did.

As much as I love Carolyn, it would be mildly funny to see her getting in a Yahoo-themed taxi in front of the Trump tower...

Carolyn, you'll be missed!!!! Damn you, Trump, damn you!

Well, all she did was run the golf club, big whoopty-frickin-do, they could hire a ex-McDonald's manager to do that job. I always wondered how she got such a cushy job like that in the first place. The prima-donna probably has been asking for raise after raise.

Just love the headline:

http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/31/news/newsm...dex.htm?cnn=yes

Trump tells Carolyn: 'You're fired!'
Kepcher, blonde assistant of 'The Apprentice,' loses job after Trump tires of her.

...Trump tires of blond assistant....hehe..."blond" meaning what, dumb? nice stick there CNN!

Carolyn was great. It's too bad Trump dumped her. However, I think he might have been planning on it, since he started phasing in Ivanka last season.

By the way, it was probably just a coincidence, but did anyone else notice that Ivanka was in EVERY Synergy boardroom and Carolyn was in EVERY Gold Rush boardroom? George and Bill got to see a little of both teams, and Don Jr. only appeared twice, but it seems funny that the two ladies only got to see one team in the boardroom the entire time.

Really not a surprise. The show had declining ratings and was already retooling with the LA gimmick. George was trying to retire, and without him Carolyn's position was much weaker. Plus, Trump was now ready to fully bring in Don Jr and Ivanka, which was the plan all along. Finally, there was only room for one inflated-ego superstar at Trump, and that's Trump.

Carolyn had a good run.

That asshole. Kicking out an employee to make room for his kid? Fuck him.

And seriously, CNN? You don't need to mention that Carolyn is blonde. What the hell is the relevance of that?

This is the worst news I've read over someone's shoulder on the subway all day!

I do love me some Ivanka, but "The Apprentice" will be a shell of a shell of its former self without Carolyn.

Her Connecticut burns!! Her icy stares!! Her warm moments with George!!

And I bet all the stupid bitchy contestants on this show who didn't like her are thrilled.

Carolyn is going to end up so much better off. I think its better that she's no longer involved in a show which IMO is way past it's prime. Trump and his spawn can go down with the ship.

Didn't Carolyn take a failing Trump property, the golf course, and turn it into a money winner? That's something all the king's horses and all the king's men haven't been able to do with the casinos.

Since Trump treats his wives in an equally dismissive fashion, I'm not surprised he'd be so callous with a female employee. Shows a complete lack of class and loyalty on his part, in my opinion. "Spend some time with your family and then find a new job." Asshat.

You're better off without him, Carolyn, and you'll be dancing on the grave of the Apprentice before too long.

He only replaced Carolyn with Ivanka on the show. He replaced Carolyn with Carolyn's #2 at the golf course.

What an incredibly condescending thing to say. "Meanwhile, I'll spend some time with my family in jobs I created for them."

He seemed to admire the work she did for him. He spokely highly of her many times. This leads me to believe that she must have screwed up big time. I don't think he fired her so Ivanka could take her spot on the Apprentice. As her employer he could have just taken her off the show and let her keep her job. I believe the article - she was fired because she became a prima donna.

Carolynny fired? Wow. There goes another streetsmart...

We all know Trump values loyalty over everything else. If she was busy doing endorsements and public speaking, she's promoting herself over Trump (at least in his mind). And if you appear disloyal, out you go.

That being said, I don't think she's going to be unemployed for long. Hey, doesn't "The View" still need another panelist?

We all know there's only room for one, and his hair is fluffy. ;)

Good luck, Carolyn. Hope you don't end up doing infomercials for Bedazzler. "Hi, remember me? I'm Carolyn, from national television."

Yeah without the cache of being Trump's right hand woman, I don't see how Carolyn's career as a famewhore can continue.

I'm conflicted, as I don't know whether I'm sad for her getting fired, or happy for her because she is out from under the oppression of His Trumpness.

Heh. Can't say I'm sorry to see her skinny butt bouncing off the sidewalk, but Trump letting someone go due to excessive self-promotion?!? Talk about do as I say, not as I do...

SEEEYAAAA, blondie.

So now do we have to change the name of the thread to Carolyn: You're Fired?

This is such a hey-pot-you're-black moment it is unbelievable.

Heh. I agree 100% with the first part, although I admit it's part of what makes watching him on TV kind of fun. However, I'm not sure I agree that he would have fired Carolyn just to make room for his Ivanka. He could have just taken Carolyn off of the TV show without firing her. She might have quit, but then this would be an entirely different discussion.

Based on what the full NY Post article said, which is posted in and I talked about in the media thread, I think he probably fired Carolyn because he's the same crazy old bastard in real life as he is on TV.

Maybe Carolyn can team up with Martha now. And they could hire Robyn, too.

Looks to me like Trump is pissy because Carolyn's popularity is still high while his declines. (I also have a feeling he resents her making "extra" money "off of" his name--as I remember that he didn't even pay her and George for being on The Apprentice, despite all the money it (and they) were making for HIM as executive producer.


He's such a cheap SOB, too. It's no surprise that Carolyn's firing was handled with all his "usual" class!

Piggybacking on potoroo's idea, I'd soooo watch another season of TA: Martha if Alexis and Carolyn were her two henchwomen. Talk about a bitchfest! Woo!

Carolyn's the one who kissed that smug sexist bastard's ass. She probably stepped over many people who were just as qualified due to her ass-kissing abilities. I don't feel for her one bit.

From the CNN article:

Isn't that what happened to Kwame? Trump couldn't reach who he wanted to reach, Jessica Simpson, and that doomed Kwame.

How soon until we see Carolyn on CNBC?

I vowed after last season I wouldn't watch this crummy show again, what with the inept candidates, dull tasks and Trump's boring kids filling in. It's become nothing more than a 60-minute commmercial for whatever movie, soft drink, toothpaste, dog food or other crappy product that ponied up some money to be featured. With Carolyn now gone, it makes my decision that much easier. Asshole Trump just made a huuuu-uuuge mistake. Wouldn't it be great if the ratings for the L.A. version were so low that NBC pulls it mid-season, like ABC did with The One?

SO condescending, but exactly what we've come to expect from Trumpet McEgo.

Trump firing someone for being too self-promoting . . . next he'll start firing people for being pompous, tasteless, sexist blowhards with bad hair.

Anyone have any idea how much she made at the Trump organization? Hmmm . . . toss off a few platitudes at the Chamber of Commerce luncheon for $25,000, or order more golf balls with Trumpy's picture on them and sit by the phone in case he calls . . . she'd better hurry up and cash in as much as she can on the famewhore circuit before her 15 minutes runs out.

She may have become a prima donna, but the capper had to be that she wasn't there for his phone call. There's only room for so much ego in the Trump organization, and 99.9 percent of it is under that dead weasel on the boss's head.

I agree!! She just got a little to big for him, so he thought she was taking spotlight away, and he got rid of her! Too bad, I thought she was a good part of the show!

Firing for self-promotion at his expense, all the while using said firing to promote at her expense. What a tool. Carolyn had lost her edge. Her perception of what was real and what was Trump reality the last couple of seasons seemed a bit blurred too much for my liking, but I still prefer her to the two bland Trumpettes who, while no where near as irritating and asinine as their father, still had too many moments of sticking their finger in water and declaring proudly it was wet.

And even worse is the notion that Carolyn's ouster means making room for more "I just wet my pants but maybe if I smile really, really stupidly no one will notice" Rancic. Or screaming Richard Quest clone Sean. It's bad enough that Ivanka had to sully my Project Runway viewing experience this season.

Of course these is a perverse side of me that actually hopes Trump somehow talks NBC in renewing TA after this fall because I want to see just how ridiculously bad Trump can make it.

How much of Carolyn's firing was motivated to make way for Ivanka to sit permanently in Carolyn's seat?

George was easier to push aside for Don, Jr. He's 78, isn't really into being a celebrity, and is a loyal family operative of the old school (he came up when "loyal to the family" was an all or nothing thing). Just say George didn't want to travel to LA all the time and he'll go along. Also, he's a guy, so he's allowed to get older and still be seen with DT.

Carolyn, however, is 36 and has an entire career ahead of her. She's probably looking at a near future when she's no longer useful to the family (no longer pretty enough to decorate DT's arm) and trying to establish herself outside the organization before being put out to pasture (probably at 39).

Trump was on Conan the night before the story broke.

He said the rating for HIS show were phenomenal and was the reason to go to LA. Said George would not be on the show because it is too far away (uh, ok) But never mentioned Carolyn.

My understanding is that Rancic is leaving the Trump Organization when his contract expires in the coming months.