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liquid2009
I haven't seen any topic dedicated to things that may have influenced 24, or conversely, homages that 24 has paid. There have been a few mentions in other threads, but I thought they should get their own topic. If I'm wrong, well, close it. My bad.

The first homage I ever noticed was Milo's login being LFN, and the password including foothill. Obvious an homage to La Femme Nikita, another work of the creators.

And, maybe this is just me, but here goes. Several times, Jack's final battle against Andre and Victor Drazen has been compared to Diehard, but the very first thing I thought of when he made his surprising choice of an entrance was the anime "Cowboy Bebop". In the final episode of that show, Spike Spiegel, the hero, was angry that his love, Julia, had just been killed by minions of Vicious, the villain of the show. He walks right into the HQ of Vicious's syndicate, all casual, but then simply dropped a grenade and kicks it into the lobby, beginning his sudden, surprising, and violent assault. Does this make anyone else think of Jack (Spike) being angry that Kim (Julia) had supposedly been killed, and therefore decides to finish Victor (Vicious) off, whether it costs him his own life or not? Perhaps not an actual homage to Cowboy Bebop, or a CB influenced scene, but a very similar feeling/situation none the less.

If this topic is acceptable, have fun everyone.
Jazzmyn1372
What about homages to (or maybe ripoffs of) 24 in other shows? If so I've got a few.
liquid2009
What about homages to (or maybe ripoffs of) 24 in other shows? If so I've got a few.


I meant that as well, I just wasn't clear enough. That'd be great. Let her rip!
Gustave
I TiVo'ed High Noon a couple of weeks ago. And then I got really bored and stopped watching it. I wish I had something more intelligent to say about this classic real-time Western...but I don't.
liquid2009
Well, with the obvious failure of this thread to capture any real interest ::sniff::, at least I got a Gustave post!
liquid2009
[Don't double post]
Al Johnstone
Well, I know of a cartoon that pays a homage to '24'...

*Eyes dart*
Eegah
Conan O'Brien's 60 was pretty good; a shame they discontinued it. "The Prime Minister of Canada? I didn't see that coming!"
IlsaL
I´m new here and I like this thread.
waves hello to everybody
Some weeks ago I thought about "Escape from New York" by John Carpenter with Kurt Russell. And then the countdown on the watch with the red ciphers came to my mind. It´s not a real time format, but the ticking of the clock ads much suspence to that movie. And Snake Plissken is also a kind of a dark hero. I see similarities.
CarpeDiem
One of my favorite movies is Three Days of the Condor and if the TPTB ever read this - please remake this film with Kiefer as the lead!!!! - I'm begging you!!

Okay back to topic.... I thought that Three Days of the Condor had some similarities to 24 (especially season 1) but had to laugh outloud when I went to imdb.com to get some details to post and found these descriptions:

Tagline: His code name is Condor. In the next twenty-four hours everyone he trusts will try to kill him.

Plot Outline: A bookish CIA researcher finds all his co-workers dead, and must outwit those responsible until he figures out who he can really trust.


How cool is that....
liquid2009
Oh, Conan's 60 was hilarious! Did you see when he did a 'Halloween' 60? The guy opens the door, a really REALLY cheap looking monster comes in, goes rargh, and credits! HILARIOUS!

Then, they did a halloween ep of 60: Miami! A couble jab! Anyway, same deal, except the monster attacks him at a beach. Hee hee.

Gustave: Sorry for the double post, I don't even remember what the hell I said in it.

Someone in the Alias homage thread, which I also created (I was in a mood apparently), mentioned that all the cool stuff that Alias used to have may have gone to 'Kim-Possible".

I don't think I need to even point out the little jokey we have here regarding Kim-Possible and 24.
Benji
As I posted in the media thread, Simple Plan's latest video is a direct 24 homage. You can watch it at mtv.com.
liquid2009
I didn't know where else to put this, so I'm chancing on my own thread, since it deals with alleged 'rip-offs'. Does anyone remember that threatened lawsuit some writer made against 24, saying season 1 was a copy of his story about... whatever? The cell phone bomb was the most glaring example I believe, but dabbling in writing myself, I can tell you it's not a super unique idea. It's a twist anyone could've thought of.

Anyway, does anyone know what came of that? Or, does anyone but me even remember that?
g-girl
The radio promo for Tuesday's season premiere of The Shield included a line something like "This season, you won't know who to trust."... just as did the early s3 24 promos and the current Alias promo includes the line "This Sunday, every second counts.," which is a word-for-word (well, except the Sunday part) lift of one of the 24 taglines.
Eegah
There's a sequence near the end of Super Troopers that uses split screens in such a similar way to 24 I believe it at least partly inspired the use of them. It even takes place in a scene where the heroes only have two minutes to save themselves.
tonybukaki
Except that Super Troopers was release in January of 2001 and '24' didn't start until September of 2001.
Bruin4Ever
That's why it would be listed her amongst the influences, tonybukaki.
hachurui
I see some influence from the Metal Gear videogames (Bauer=Solid
Snake, Mason=the Colonel, Palmer=the President, Rick=Hal, theTerrorKompound=OuterHeaven, Chase=Raiden and Kim=Naomi? nah...that last one's probably too much of a stretch.)
liquid2009
I don't see Kim injecting anyone with a virus that taregts specific DNA structures. :-P

But yeah, I've been saying Jack equals Solid Snake from DAY ONE! Glad to see I'm not alone.

Kim's more like Mei Ling now... and Meryl is Teri or Kate.
hachurui
I know :) I was kidding about Kim. Now that I think about it, Kim's sort of like Hal's sister E.E. I forgot about Eli though-- he totally reminded me of that one guard in Metal Gear Solid who had to rush off to the bathroom when he was supposed to be guarding Snake.
Ok, I'll shut up about Metal Gear now.
colonelkanzi
First, thanks for opening this thread. There's something I've been wanting to post here about influences on 24 since early in Season One, but it never fit till now. Before I get to that, though...

There's a sequence near the end of Super Troopers that uses split screens in such a similar way to 24 I believe it at least partly inspired the use of them.


Actually, though they haven't been used alot, split screens have appeared from time to time in film, going back much earlier than Super Troopers- see Salon for more than you ever wanted to know on this.

As for other influences, as much as I hate to admit it, there has always been a sort of soap opera quality to "24"- partly in that they share the serial format, but we all know there's more to it than that- anyway, when "24" Season One first began and I was wondering about influences, I looked up "Bauer" and "Soap Opera" together and got "Guiding Light"- not only has the show been on radio and television for over 50 years running now, but apparently in one of the very first episodes ever, according to Ardmoreite.com, "Papa Bauer" plays chess with his son, just as Kiefer and Elisa were doing the first time we saw them as Jack and Kim Bauer. "Papa Bauer" offers some advice to his son across the chessboard:

''Figuring something out -- that ain't enough,'' counsels Papa Bauer in his Old World accent. ''It's figuring the RIGHT way that's the important thing.''


Jack doesn't say anything like this to Kim, just sends her to her room so she can run away to the TerrorKompound, but later in that same first hour, he tells Nina:

You can look the other way once and it's no big deal, except it makes it easier for you to compromise the next time...and pretty soon that's all you're doing is compromising because that's how you think things are done."


I don't know- I doubt very seriously that the writers ever looked at this, and even the Bauer name is probably just a coincidence, but it makes you wonder.
liquid2009
Oh now, Metal Gear is appropriate EVERYWHERE! :-) Except here when it gets too excessive, which it has, so yeah.

And Colonelkanzi... WOW. That's pretty damn close, the writers could have easily taken it from that. If so, hopefully it's an homage and not a rip.
Jonny Confident
I don't see anything in common between Metal Gear Solid and 24 aside from each having secret agents fighting agaisnt terrorists.

However, I do think it was a strange coincidence that the two playable characters in Metal Gear Solid 2 shared the same given names as the two main characters in 24 (Jack and David) and both came out around the same time in 2001.

Oh yeah, first-time poster, long time lurker.
liquid2009
I might equate Nina to Ocelot from Metal Gear. The secondary villain who is always playing everyone, even their bosses, and they always live. Wait... Uh oh. Well, in MGS4, bye Ocelot (3 being a prequel and all).

Although Ocelot has a legitimate reason for being in every game... as opposed to Nina just popping in with the big 'plot device' neon sign on her body.

Yes, I'm obsessed with MG's storyline, more movie than game to me. My username, anyone?

Damn it, this is not a Metal Gear forum... gonna get a warning... I stop now. For real this time.

On another influence note, the sudden inclusion of the obscure Japanese game Go came at the exact moment an anime/manga all about the game was localized in America, called Hikaru no Go. Very precise timing to make me wonder if that's where the idea came from.
Warden
Actually, though they haven't been used alot, split screens have appeared from time to time in film, going back much earlier than Super Troopers

After reading that I thought that this may not be an homage but I'll mention it anyway since the timing is right.

In October 2002, a Buffy episode titled "Him" had a four screen split showing the various female characters doing different things to win the affection of a high school boy. They were under a spell of course.
racecar
I'm pretty sure it's not a direct influence, but 24 has a lot of basic similarities to the German flick Run Lola Run from 1999.

Run Lola Run has the same kinda-sorta real-time storytelling (Lola has twenty minutes to get one hundred grand to her boyfriend, and then... that would be telling, but it would only work with 24 if done in fanfic or a novel or something not on TV). And at certain high points in the plot, a multiple splitscreen slides into place with the same low, rumbling, moving-the-dresser-across-the-kitchen-floor noise that accompanies the end-of-show splitscreen from 24. They both also share some thematic elements of dealing with the consequences of the choices you make.

And it's from Germany, so it has to tie into the main conspiracy somehow.
Sebastian90012
I'm wondering if President Bartlet is a 24 fan.

I was re-watching a third season episode, "The U.S. Poet Laureate" and in the teaser, Bartlet is talking to a reporter whose name is Teri, only he calls her Kim by mistake. I don't know, it just seems like an unusual mistake to make unless the connection he was making between the two names was Bauer! (This episode was on during the middle of 24's first season after all!)

Plus, later on another reporter is named Leslie. Is this a coincidence that we have two 24 characters and one of the actors who portrays them all in the same teaser? I'd like to think not, lol!
dzhim
They did the ticking clock thing counting down to a commercial break on the second episode of Comedy Central's "Drawn Together."
areacode212
I'm watching my DVDs of Angel season 4, and there's this one part in the teaser of "The Magic Bullet" where the camera kinda moves from side to side, then does a quick, jerky zoom-in (it's from the POV of Wesley & Gunn, who are looking for, then spotting "Fred"). Well, in the commentary, Jeff Bell (who directed the episode) mentions that it's a technique that he lifted from this show, "because I watch a lot of 24". That was pretty cool...I never would've made the connection if I hadn't heard the commentary, but now that I know, it's totally recognizable as a 24 camera move.
Tick Tock
There's a couple of shows I've seen in the past week that may not have influenced 24, but remind me of it:

There's an episode of Law & Order (when it was actually good) called, "Mayhem." It features one very hectic day in the life of the cops. Instead of the usual "dun-dun" sound and screen text used to transition scenes, they used a ticking clock.

Another is that episode of M*A*S*H in which the doctors only have 20 minutes to save a guy's life and there's a ticking clock present in the corner of the screen.
marbethofpob
Imitation being the sincerest form of flattery and all, it was probably almost inevitable. I'm sure TPTB might get a kick or a rise out of this Pertinent excerpt:
Adult videos are, according to Flash (3/15), an industry Japan can be proud to claim it leads the world.

Certainly, the cutthroat blue movie business churning out new titles by the dozen every day needs plenty of cutting edge ideas if one flick is to leap ahead of the pack.

Inspired by the recently completed Academy Awards, the men's weekly has come up with its Bakademy Awards, named for the Japanese-English contraction of baka, meaning stupid, and academy, presenting them to adult videos that have come up with the silliest ideas for stick flicks over the past year.

Winning the Best Picture Bakademy Award is "Nijuyon," the Japanese word for, and parody of "24," the hit TV series starring Keifer Sutherland. Unlike the U.S. drama, however, "Nijuyon" tells the tale of the trials and tribulations faced by an adult movie crew given a one-day deadline to come up with its own original flick. To keep the double-dozen theme, the movie stars 24 actresses who are filmed performing a variety of lascivious scenes over a 24-hour period.
Elementalist
In October 2002, a Buffy episode titled "Him" had a four screen split showing the various female characters doing different things to win the affection of a high school boy. They were under a spell of course.

That's definitely not a rip-off. It's just split screen.
ThatTree
The name of the defense contractor, McLennan-Forster, has to be an homage to the great Australian band The Go-Betweens. I wonder whether Howard Gordon or one of the other 24 PTB is a fan.
El Kabong
According to this week's EW, the Go-Betweens fan is Evan Katz, who chose to honor his favorite band because of their euphonious surnames.
TRex
The whole "lover working with husband" thing is reminiscent of the movie Hanover Street with Harrison Ford and Christopher Plummer.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079268/
During the Second World War, an American Pilot stationed in England meets a young British nurse during an air raid on London. The two instantly fall in love, despite the fact that the young Nurse is already married; a secret she keeps hidden from her American lover. After being shot down behind enemy lines, while being assigned to ferry a British agent into France, the American pilot realizes that his secret agent cargo is in fact his lover's husband, and that the two must now work together in order to survive.
unrefrigerated
I don't know whether anyone remembers this, but "Dark Angel"? That fun show little from Fox a couple of years ago? Jessica Alba in lots o' leather? I think the "devestation" of the world they lived in was caused by an electromagnetic pulse, right? I don't know--I am, like, one of three people who watched that show, and then we all stopped after the second season began (weird dogs? lydecker gone?).

In conclusion, I am probably the only one who screamed "DARK ANGEL!" when the EMP thing appeared.

(Maybe this isn't so much an homage as a shout-out to James Cameron.)
hachurui
In Resident Evil 4, one of the villains is called Ramon Salazar.
Smarmee
Oh man I forgot to post about that. And I was laughing about it way back when the game first came out.
Wait, I got one. The US Office's version of the UK Office character Chris Finch is named Ted Packard, like Anne's suicidal ex-husband in Season 3.
TRex
Been mentioned elsewhere about FLOTUS Martha Logan and Martha Mitchell, wife of Nixon Attorney General John Mitchell.
Moon Beagle
I know that Jack's alias of Frank Flynn was given in honor of the author Vince Flynn, but I saw a theory that the name was also paying homage to a character named Francis "Frank" Xavier Flynn, penned by Gregory McDonald in such novels as, "The Buck Passes Flynn," and "Flynn Is In."
TRex
Interesting history of General Alexander Suvarov (1729-1800):

Whether it be against Turks, or rebellious citizens of the Russian empire, Suvarov was uncompromising and brutal in dealing with them.[/quote]

http://www.napoleonguide.com/soldiers_suvarov.htm

Some quotes:
http://www.napoleonguide.com/aquote_suvarov.htm

More looking seems like it is actually an incorrect transliteration of the General's name. It should be "Suvorov" (although it would be pronounced "Suvarov"). I'll have to dig out my old Russian History texts to get more an idea what internal uprisings he quelled. Would be interesting if it was in the Caucasus/Chechnya.

Edit: Indeed,

From 1777 to 1783 Suvorov served in the Crimea and in the Caucasus[/quote]
http://aleksandr-suvorov.biography.ms/
TRex
I wonder if the Huxleys (Derrick and GotMilf) are an homage to Aldous Huxley and Brave New World. Wonder if RichGuy has some sort of plan to create a master race.
Snowman

I wonder if the Huxleys (Derrick and GotMilf) are an homage to Aldous Huxley and Brave New World. Wonder if RichGuy has some sort of plan to create a master race.[/quote]

Interestingly, Aldous Huxley's death was overshadowed in the media by the assassination of J.F.K. (as was C.S. Lewis') [according to Wikipedia]
TRex
Now if only I could figure out the link between LA, Canada, and world domination.... ;)

(What with Kiefer having so many Canadians on the payroll and stuff....) :)
TRex
Lynn McGill/McGill University in Quebec?

That one is almost too obvious, though.

Besides, there's a limit to how many names that aren't "attached"! :)
Snowman

Now if only I could figure out the link between LA, Canada, and world domination.... ;)[/quote]
I could tell you but then I'd have to ... um, y'know ;)


(What with Kiefer having so many Canadians on the payroll and stuff....) :)
[/quote]
hehehe - I 'm surprised they still film '24' in LA! ;) .... maybe Edmonton will stand in for Moscow.
TRex
Naah - Moscow's warmer than Edmonton these days.

("Current events humor for a thousand, Alex.") :)
historian
When the terrorists took over the airport with Kiefer hidden inside, unknown to them and with a personal connection to a hostage, I kept thinking Die Hard. I was even wondering how long this hostage crisis was going to drag on and if Kiefer was going to take out the hostiles one by one. He started to do this and then was forced to turn himself in to the terrorists to protect the person he had a connection to. And the terrorists even had a second agenda unknown to anyone else (of course, this is normal for 24). Anyone other similarities?
TRex
Reluctant to post this one, because it is more than a little shocking if it is true. I didn't catch "Mr. Rossler's" first name tonight. Even so, the last name is remarkably similar to Eric Rosser.

Eric Rosser was a VERY talented piano player, who achieved commercial success playing piano for John Mellencamp (of "Jack and Diane" fame). He is also a convicted pedophile, and former listing on the FBI's 10 most wanted list. He was found in Thailand, escaped, fled through Europe, then was re-arrested in Thailand and is still imprisoned there, I think.

Here is an article from Salon.com that goes into greater detail. Warning - graphic adult themes in the article. I know, I know, we're all adults here, but, at the same time, this is pretty harsh stuff.
http://www.salon.com/people/feature/2001/1...sser/index.html

Yeah, I know - look long enough and you can find a child molester with any last name. But, between the name similarity and the Mellencamp "link", it is either an influence/homage or an incredible coincidence.
Snowman
You could be onto something!
Wasn't John "Jack & Diane" Mellencamp formerly known as John Cougar?
;)

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