cutecouple
Apr 12, 2004 @ 1:30 am
I'd like to see the two teams start out or perhaps hit a week where the PM isn't one of them, but an existing Trump VP or Apprentice Alumni (Sam & Omarosa?) to isolate how well they do as a team from the direct ramifications of being a PM.
Jenbo
Apr 12, 2004 @ 8:29 am
After Drama-rosa's stunt this week, I'd like to see the executives be able to fire someone. Also, I think it would be better if they had a bigger pool to choose from. Instead of dividing up the last 6 people dired, why not pick 6 from the last 8 or 10. Given that Bill had first pick, I think Kwame would have been stuck with O anyway. But with a larger pool to draw from, she could have endured the indignity and humiliation of not being picked at all.
goobaletta
Apr 12, 2004 @ 3:50 pm
I want someone better than Jessica Simpson for a concert task if they have one during TA2. Doesn't David Cassidy do casino gigs now?
(Hee!)
cutecouple
Apr 13, 2004 @ 1:23 am
What would be really good is if on their CNBC(?) (I know it's not MSNBC) cable channel they aired an additional indepth half hour after their replay of an old episode or simply exchange the replay for an hour long indepth episode.
This reminds me of Oprah's aftershow show, which is an extra half-hour of slightly mellower talk and q&a done immediately after the show.
Storm Shadow
Apr 13, 2004 @ 12:40 pm
If I'm going to constantly hear how attractive the female contestants are, could they at least pick more than 2 or 3 who are actually hot?
SillyCilla
Apr 13, 2004 @ 2:44 pm
I want someone better than Jessica Simpson for a concert task if they have one during TA2.
Maybe next season they'll bring Assorama back and have one of the final 2 promote "The Assorama Show" where it's 2 hours of Assorama standing on stage self-glorifying herself.
The poor unfortunate soul who got that task would lose without even leaving the boardroom.
tonypitt
Apr 14, 2004 @ 5:06 pm
I hope that Apprentice 2 (and so on) are as good as this original version was. I fear that they might not be.
I didn't start watching Survivor until just recently, but I'd think that Survivor 1 was very different than later seasons. That first time no one knew what to expect.
My big hope is in Mark Burnett. He's shown with Survivor that (this season excepted) he is able to consistently deliver the goods. If the Apprentice was a Fox show, I'd think it to be doomed.
Hopefully Trump's ego doesn't grow too big to make good TV.
Meghan Jill
Apr 14, 2004 @ 7:49 pm
That's a good point, Tonypitt. I actually don't watch Survivor, just enjoy Miss Alli's recaps, but I get the feeling that being under the microscope has hurt the whole game. There was something charming about this season of The Apprentice in that it didn't have a huge amount of hype until about episode 6. You know for two weeks before the premiere of TA2, Trump, Carolyn, George et al will be making the rounds of the press, and every bootee will get their time on Leno and The View, and the resume of every contestant will be picked apart. So here's hoping the future seasons don't collapse from exhaustion and overexposure.
Bigwheels1971
Apr 16, 2004 @ 12:16 am
I think at 4 people there should be one more team task. Then do the individual interviews with 3 people left. This could be accomplished if there isn't a clip show next season, which I didn't like anyway.
draadje
Apr 16, 2004 @ 1:19 am
The host of the reunion show should be someone else than DT. The guy may be a genius in business, but he sucks live.
Bigwheels1971
Apr 16, 2004 @ 1:28 am
How about Katie Couric and Matt Lauer?
Lantern7
Apr 16, 2004 @ 2:06 am
I liked the recruiting of fired players for the final task...but add two more, and make each finalist pick three. They would leave two employees out completely. For Kwame, because he should never had to choose Assorama.
And I'm still volunteering DT to lip-synch the theme song. And Geroge and Carolyn can dance behind him.
ETA: Better idea...make the finale a two mission joint. Under this format, Bill and Kwame would have done their missions, then gotten new assignments...and swapped teams. In other words, the "employees" would have more insight into each finalists' style and be able to give DT more input.
DT: Who do you bums like?
Katrina, Nick & Amy: Bill!
DT: Figures. And youse mugs!
Troy & Heidi: Kwame!
Assy: Myself, of course.
DT: (to the viceroys) Like talkin' to a friggin' brick wall...
clp
Apr 16, 2004 @ 2:34 am
Do. Not. Bring. Back. Assy. Ever.
Benji
Apr 16, 2004 @ 6:09 am
The host of the reunion show should be someone else than DT. The guy may be a genius in business, but he sucks live.
WOOOOORD. Seriously, make the live section longer too. Donald was cutting people off and asking weird questions while not touching other things viewers might be wondering about.
tonypitt
Apr 16, 2004 @ 7:08 am
If we compare this post-firing/hiring show to the first Survivor post-winning show, I think we can assume that Burnett will tweak the formula until he gets it right.
Going in to this I feared it might be a train wreck. Jeff Probst on Survivor can pull off playing host, but after seeing Trump on SNL I figured it would be about like it was.
Thought: Burnett should have Troy play "host" next season throughout the different episodes. He and Donald could share voiceover duties, and Troy could do interviews with outside parties involved in the episode (or something similar). Then Troy could host the wrap up party.
Neko
Apr 16, 2004 @ 9:16 am
OK, Troy as host is a great idea; my thought was: why not just get Jeff Probst? Can you imagine Peachy dealing with Assorama? And this could be a whole career arc for him: hosting reunion shows. Oh wait. I think Mark L. Wahlberg tried this.
Oh, and if they insist on bringing Assorama back, it should only be in the following capacity: as each fired wannabe Apprentice leaves the board room to hit the street, they should have to walk past Assorama and bitch slap her. That would certainly keep ratings up. And it would add a new dimension to the competition: do you want the job, or do you want to get fired and have the opportunity to bitch slap Assorama? Tough, tough choice for some (but not for me).
crazyjaney
Apr 16, 2004 @ 9:40 am
I almost had a heart attack on the TA2 previews.
I can see bringing Troy and Sam back, heck Troy has been HINTING about this in every post firing interview he's given. But if he has to work with "Big" Business as alluded to, I hope he can tone down or don't think he'll do as well. Sam is, well, Sam. Can he EVER be duplicated? Maybe we would like to see if he plays differently after his first experience.
BUT...ASSORAMA? Oh God help me. I do not think I can put up with her again. The only way I enjoy seeing her on TA2 as a contestant will be if she is TOTALLY dissed by everyone on the show and FIRED in the first episode. BEFORE teams are assigned.
Can you just see TD saying, "I've decided to divide you into teams. Except for you, Assorama, you are a delusional liar, and I have to say, You're Fired."
Bix Bender
Apr 16, 2004 @ 11:58 am
This was a great show, but it could be even better with a few simple adjustments, gamewise.
First of all, there's no tangible incentive to volunteer to be project manager. Sure, you can brag all you want about how you "stepped up", but at the end of the day, it's easier to not volunteer and not have to risk the boardroom. Therefore, all rewards whould go to the PM of the winning team, and two teammates of his/her choosing. That could also increase the drama, being forced to make choices not only for the boardroom, but also for rewards.
Second, evening out the teams. When a team is up by 2 players, it should be the big team who elects someone they think they can afford to lose, not the small team 'stealing" their choice away. If you've performed badly in the past, why should you be rewarded?
Finally, when you're down to the final two, why not bring back *all* the fired contestants, and allow each player to build a team of 4 from them. That way, you test a little bit of each contestants' ability to select competent people. It wasn't technically Kwame's fault he got stuck with Omarosa. As someone in another thread pointed out, draft selections such as this ought to be serpentine., as opposed to alternating. A wider pool of contestants mitigates this somewhat.
Also, the men vs. women arrangement this season was clever, and worked out well. But I don't need to see it again. If Burnett does anything other than "Ivy-League Schools vs. School of Hard Knocks" to start the show out, I'll be surprised and disappointed.
JuanitaSmi
Apr 16, 2004 @ 1:07 pm
networkinggirl wrote:
Incorporate tasks where the individual candidates compete for "immunity" of some sort.
HeavenLy wrote:
In the Boardroom, I would like the Donald to show clips of the task when questioning the apprentices. Like in the Boardroom where Katrina claims she wasn't duped, the Donald could have showed clips of Katrina's exchange with Troy.
Whenever the teams need to be evened out... I think the team with more members should decide who they want to dump. I would love to see Oma work her magic at Versacorp. Why reward the losing team by letting them draft?
A friend of mine is dying for the board room to include challenge footage in S2. It would make for some great TV.
I am a big advocate of the winning team being able to, at minimum, protect certain members rather than rewarding the losers with the ability to poach the best player.
When a team is up by 2 players, it should be the big team who elects someone they think they can afford to lose, not the small team 'stealing" their choice away. If you've performed badly in the past, why should you be rewarded?
I agree. My biggest beef with this season is the poaching from the winners. Maybe I’ve watched too much
RW/RR Battle of the Seasons but protecting is an aspect of many shows. On MTV, the winner of the immunity can sacrifice ANOTHER player to the Inferno (i.e. Board Room).
Kromm wrote:
-Definitely... Yoooger (and individual) rewards. Use individual incentives to tempt people to showboat. It will introduce an element of them overdoing it and cooking themselves that way.
I love this idea. I think it would also serve as a good reminder that this is NOT a team competition. Early on, the girls were so psyched about winning that they allowed Amy to rise to the top as an individual performer. Whereas, I think Nick (or maybe it was Bill) figured out early that it was the individual gig. Remember how the guys chose to let Sam lead so he would be eliminated? Smart move.
For that matter, some on the Episode 11 board are suggesting a "Kwame, Bill, and Troy celebrating their victory in Atlantic City" 24-7 channel. As long as we're getting the full boardroom, why not turn CNBC into the 24-7 Apprentice channel.
Grifter: Love.
Better idea...make the finale a two mission joint. Under this format, Bill and Kwame would have done their missions, then gotten new assignments...and swapped teams. In other words, the "employees" would have more insight into each finalists' style and be able to give DT more input.
For the finale, I would like to see the same team working for each finalist. You could have a Mon-Wed activity and a Thursday-Sat activity. This would give both the fire-ees and the Viceroys an opportunity to see both finalists in action. Otherwise, I think loyalty (and competitiveness) takes over and you want your "captain" to win.
And alliances be damned. You were never going to see Troy say, "Mr. Trump, I think you should hire Bill."
Can you just see TD saying, "I've decided to divide you into teams. Except for you, Assorama, you are a delusional liar, and I have to say, You're Fired."
Bwah!
JTMacc99
Apr 16, 2004 @ 1:49 pm
I like the idea that the new group of high IQ morons will be doing more tasks for real companies.
Part of the appeal of this show was the way they took business people and self made success stories and then threw stupid tasks like selling lemonade at then to see how smart they really were. Now that EVERYBODY knows what this show is all about, a simple task like this isn't likely to fail as spectacularly as it did for the men. I would think that the next batch will be ready for the simple stuff. I say send them off to Verizon and have them negotiate the next union contract. (Although leaning over the table with your boobs hanging out might still work in a union negotiation, so maybe some things won't change.)
Another big part of the Trump-appeal of this show is the fact that I personally have been thrown together on teams, both at work and in business school, with both good people and worthless people, so I loved watching the same thing on TV. This group had just enough good people to give me at least one I identified with each week. (No, I never identified with Osama-rosa or Sam.) It always appeared that few, if any of the people were hamming it up just for the cameras. It usually looked like they were just "going to work" each day, as crazy as that work seemed to be.
I have to be honest, I am worried that the next one won't work for me. I think that it will be hard to find people who honestly want to win and get the stupid job rather than people who want to be on TV and clown it up to get the 15 minutes of fame that they saw the contestants get from the first show.
Sigh.
Oh yeah, and I HATE the idea of immunity or anything like that. The idea is that it is Trump's job interview, and he can fire whomever he likes, whenever he likes. He knows good TV (such as keeping Sam an extra week, just to see what might happen), and I see no reason to mess with this part of the show. One whole team already gets immunity every week. The losing project manager "grants immunity" to the ones he or she sends back to the suite. How much more immunity do you guys want? The format is already great: One person each week gets to protect somebody while at the same point putting his or her own ass on the line with one or two others. I don't understand why anybody would want to change this format.
AllAboutMBTV
Apr 16, 2004 @ 1:59 pm
jennblevinsI'd love to see an Apprentice with Bill Gates.
Oh, me too. I've had just about enough of The Hair and all his fabulous (ahem...) properties. And ego. (I'd miss Don't. Cross. Carolyn., though.) Sadly, because The Hair is a TA producer, we'll never get Gates or Michael Eisner (if he lasts long enough -- but the challenges could be great) or -- and I apologize if this has been mentioned way upthread -- my favorite potential TA self-made CEO: Martha Stewart. (No, really, she's in publishing, television, real estate, marketing, etc., so they wouldn't be just gilding pine cones and making raffia bows. And I'm sure her lemonade is delicious! Maybe she could do TA as community service.)
tersh
Apr 16, 2004 @ 2:41 pm
Dear God
I appreciate you leaving the bathtub long enough to "deal with" JPL on American Idol last night. Now, can you please see your way clear to finish your bath well before Assorama makes it to The Apprentice 2? Please?
Thank the Lord,
Tersh
JuanitaSmi
Apr 16, 2004 @ 3:56 pm
One whole team already gets immunity every week. The losing project manager "grants immunity" to the ones he or she sends back to the suite.
Great point made here. My interest in something along the line of "immunity" extends to the post-Board Room task. In addition to NOT going to the Board Room, I believe the winning team should be able to protect its All Stars during the next task.
kbilly
Apr 16, 2004 @ 5:49 pm
One thing that really bugged me about the finale was that the other contestants were commenting on Bill and Kwame's perfomance during the missions. I don't give a shit what YOU think, Katrina, YOU were FIRED! I think they had one interview with George pre-boardroom when he said how Kwame was doing. I liked that. Ask the pros to evaluate, not the losers because that was just pointless.
I am also concerned that a second season will be risky business. Fame-whores will abound and bringing back Sam and Omarosa in any capacity might constitute jumping a yuuuge shark. Please no Sam. You may think he's comic gold, but I'm sure there will be someone just as famewhorey to fill the job.
Accygirl
Apr 16, 2004 @ 6:03 pm
I love Troy; however, I disagree with all of you who say that he should be the host next time. They should bring him back in some capacity, as an advisor or something, but what makes the show hilarious is it's all about The Donald and his yooge ego.
Oblique1
Apr 16, 2004 @ 7:07 pm
I'd prefer not to have any of the contestants return for Apprentice 2. They have all had their 15 minutes of fame, and there was something like 500,000 people applying for the next show. Give us new characters to focus on and get to know without dragging the first contestants in that were all fired.
(OK, maybe some cameos like Omarosa having a steel beam fall on her head, but that's it!)
Aurelian
Apr 16, 2004 @ 9:55 pm
When a team is up by 2 players, it should be the big team who elects someone they think they can afford to lose, not the small team 'stealing" their choice away. If you've performed badly in the past, why should you be rewarded?
I think it's done this way to prevent the winning team from continuing to steamroll the losing team. By allowing the losing team to pick, it helps to bring some competitive balance that wouldn't be there if the winning team was allowed to ship off their weakest player.
As for the idea of immunity, I'm opposed to it because you could end with a situation wherein someone like an Omarosa gains immunity, and someone like an Amy or Troy finds themselves fired because of it. I think one of the things about the show that I loved was that I really agreed with every single firing. By adding extra elements of immunity, and taking further power out of Trump's hands, the chances of someone undeserving being saved while a much better player is fired increases dramatically.
SummerBaby
Apr 16, 2004 @ 10:17 pm
I'd love to see an Apprentice with Bill Gates.
We'll probably never see this - and that's a good thing. Part of the reason we like the show is because Trump, for all his proclamations about all things Trump being the best and the biggest (oh REALLY?) and the most coveted, still has a sense of humor about himself. Bill Gates doesn't. He still has that geek complex going on.
On another note - yesterday on The View, Star Jones was asked by one of the other women if she really DID know who the winner is. Star said, "Yes, and Bill (their producer, I think?) has it in a sealed envelope and it will prove to everyone that I've known all along." Well, I didn't get to see the entire show today, but in their pre-guest banter, NONE of them mentioned EVEN ONCE anything about The Apprentice or Bill winning or that mysterious envelope. Typical Star Jones b.s., I thought.
If anyone saw the whole show and it was mentioned later, pls let us know - but knowing what a grandstander she is - I figure if the envelope was going to be mentioned, it would have been with great fanfare at the start of the show.
blocked writer
Apr 17, 2004 @ 6:39 am
AllAboutMBTV said: my favorite potential TA self-made CEO: Martha Stewart. (No, really, she's in publishing, television, real estate, marketing, etc., so they wouldn't be just gilding pine cones and making raffia bows. And I'm sure her lemonade is delicious! Maybe she could do TA as community service.)
Brilliant, AllAboutMBTV. Martha Stewart would be GREAT on TA2! I've heard DT say that Martha was a friend of his, so the connection is already there. Martha could assign taks to the teams, (selling magazine ads, or coming up with a new promotional idea for one of her products.) Martha could choose the team who did the best job. She's a great business person, so she'd be able to make a tough, but fiar decision.
Alas, NBC would probably shy away from the controversy, and Martha's own lawyers might advise her against it. But it would be outstanding TV.
Meghan Jill
Apr 17, 2004 @ 7:40 am
Great point made here. My interest in something along the line of "immunity" extends to the post-Board Room task. In addition to NOT going to the Board Room, I believe the winning team should be able to protect its All Stars during the next task.
This is something that works on other reality game shows, but I don't think it would work here. Part of the point of the show is "you're only as good as your next success" so it shouldn't matter what happened in the past. Each week everyone should start with a clean slate.
Besides, anyone watching the show for the first four weeks could have predicted who the final five would be (with the exception of Katrina--she was the wild card). Imagine if someone didn't really have to work because they knew they were safe...they would have no incentive to do well, unless they were truly loyal like Troy and Kwame. Could you imagine Omarosa if she had immunity? She wouldn't even PRETEND to lift a finger! The way it is now, everyone is fighting for the top spot, either to be noticed or so they can be safe from the Boardroom.
I'd prefer not to have any of the contestants return for Apprentice 2. They have all had their 15 minutes of fame, and there was something like 500,000 people applying for the next show. Give us new characters to focus on and get to know without dragging the first contestants in that were all fired.
(OK, maybe some cameos like Omarosa having a steel beam fall on her head, but that's it!)
I agree one hundred percent. Bringing back anyone from this season would just be overkill on what they know works. Let next season have its own stars and scandals.
On another note - yesterday on The View, Star Jones was asked by one of the other women if she really DID know who the winner is. Star said, "Yes, and Bill (their producer, I think?) has it in a sealed envelope and it will prove to everyone that I've known all along." Well, I didn't get to see the entire show today, but in their pre-guest banter, NONE of them mentioned EVEN ONCE anything about The Apprentice or Bill winning or that mysterious envelope. Typical Star Jones b.s., I thought.
Summerbaby, I'm pretty sure that show was pretaped. From what I saw of the Hot Topics, they didn't talk about any news headlines, just recent books and stuff like that. Plus, the dress they had in the Uma Thurmon "preview" was the same dress she wore in the next day's interview. So I'm sure we'll hear about it on Monday.
SerendipityCA
Apr 17, 2004 @ 4:29 pm
According to a link in the media thread, Burnett walked up to Omarosa after the finale and said "Are you game?" (meaning for TA2).
As much as I love to hate her, I would hate to see her on TA2. I know TA is not really a show about a job application, I'm not that naive (anymore) but I'd like to see it stay in the realm of reality, and I think bringing her back would be a pure ratings ploy, would disrupt the process next year, and would basically SUCK.
Tillies Hat
Apr 17, 2004 @ 4:59 pm
ITA. I don't even love to hate her, I just HATE her. (HATE. tm Sars)
I could possibly handle her in 1 (count it, Mark Burnett, 1) episode, acting as a speed bump (I meant figuratively, but literally would be ok, too) or "test" on how the apprenti deal with crazies. But I think that if she's either a contestant or (heaven forbid) an advisor (I can't even type the word "viceroy" in connection with her), I don't believe that I'll be able to watch it. Which would be a shame, considering my addiction.
blocked writer
Apr 17, 2004 @ 6:26 pm
I'd like to see at least one individual challenge where each Apprentice has to work alone on a task. This would probably work better near the end of the show, for instance when were five contestants left, and they were unable to have an equal number of people on each team. It would also underscore how well the person is able to work alone, since ultimately, the winner will be making many important decisions alone.
I want to see more projects that deal with real businesses. For instance, each team could be assigned to come up with a marketing plan or a new product idea for a company. The department head will choose the team that comes up with the best idea or product.
I hated seeing Trump quizzing team members about who should leave and who should stay. One of the things that turned me off about Survivor was the conniving and backstabbing, and the fact that contestants got to vote each other off. What I liked most about TA is that people pretty much survived or not, based upon their actual performance. Trump should grill the Apprentices about their own performances, or what went wrong with the task. When he asks a contestant who did a better job or who should be fired, he's never going to get a truly unbiased answer. Everyone is going to point a finger at someone else to be fired, so what's the point? He has George and Carolyn to give him an objective view of how each Apprentice did on the project.
In the final challenge, I want to see the Apprentices tackle identical tasks. Even George and Carolyn didn't agree on who had the harder task. And I don't want to see the fired Apprentices return for the final challenge. They should return for the reunion at the end, but not participate in helping for hurting anyone's chances for a job they also wanted. Someone said that asking the fired Apprentices who should win was especially bad, and I agree. As it turned out, they all endorsed their team leader, no surprise.
kattam6175
Apr 17, 2004 @ 6:39 pm
Here's my 2 cents...some already suggested, some not:
Random teams each week. TD and Viceroys pre-determine who the PM's and their teams will be and make sure it's a good mix each time. That way, no one can be PM three times to someone else's once and no one can pick favorites.
More boardroom analysis of the tasks: what the PM did right, what the PM did wrong, what each team member contributed/didn't contribute, etc.
Boardroom expose clips to eliminate he said/she said and outright lies.
An American Idol-type format. Full hour of task on Wed. Full hour of boardroom/firing on Thurs.
Separate living quarters for each team (with teams changing every task).
Breakdown of contestants:
4 with Masters Degrees or better (2 from Ivy League, 2 from non-Ivy League)
4 with Bachelor's Degrees
4 with Associate Degrees
4 High School Grads
In addition, every candidate should have some type of experience overseeing/managing other people, even if it was just as an assistant mgr at a retail outlet.
No Actors. No Aspiring Actors. As contestants, that is. If you have an agent, IMO you shouldn't even be able to get on this show.
I want to see the full, unedited two-hour boardroom sessions on CNBC (kind of like C-SPAN coverage).
WORD to both.
In the final challenge, I want to see the Apprentices tackle identical tasks. Even George and Carolyn didn't agree on who had the harder task. And I don't want to see the fired Apprentices return for the final challenge. They should return for the reunion at the end, but not participate in helping for hurting anyone's chances for a job they also wanted. Someone said that asking the fired Apprentices who should win was especially bad, and I agree. As it turned out, they all endorsed their team leader, no surprise.
Yes! The 2 finalists should have to manage the staff already in place at their respective locations since that's what they'll ultimately be doing if they win.
Grifter
Apr 17, 2004 @ 7:10 pm
To borrow from one of the "next week" promos: "Three words: No. Oma. Rosa."
Bitch got much more than her fifteen minutes and has no reason to come back. Trump singled out Ereka for suffering through her allegations and no one has anything good to say about her. Mark Burnett knows better than anyone that there are more than enough certifiably insane famewhores out there to stir up shit without needing to stoke Assorama's ego any more than it's already been. After the first season of Survivor, Burnett didn't bring back Hatch or Sue (and anyone watching "All-Stars" now has a good understanding of why). Why would he bring back Omarosa? Just find the next batch of crazies and let them be "stars".
The fact she sat there during the finale with her beauty queen smile glued to her face while Ereka called her a liar and Trump told them they needed to let the truth come out proves she's oblivious to the difference between good press and bad press and even if Burnett brought her back to stake her to an ant hill and smother her in honey, it would only serve to expand her voluminous ego.
Lantern7
Apr 17, 2004 @ 8:08 pm
How about this: Trump makes Omarosa oversee a mission. He makes her feel really big, and she bitches out the enraged wannabes. He dismisses her to set things up. Then he turns to the nominees.
"Look, I hate her too, so here's the objective: the first team to drop something heavy on her thick skull and make it look like an accident wins. And I want pictures. Big ones. Mmmmmmm....concussed Assorama..."
cutecouple
Apr 18, 2004 @ 1:27 am
I like the idea that the new group of high IQ morons will be doing more tasks for real companies.
Said companies probably being major sponsors or related in the family way to NBC via GE. Me, I'm thinking vending food & drink at a Yankees game.
With regard to any Apprentice coming back, I think the promo was meant to plant the idea that the most beloved/derided Aprenti might show up to keep interest going. Since most of America hates Omarosa, finding a way to get her on in some capacity would definitely spike ratings for that shameless bastard Burnett.
blocked writer
Apr 18, 2004 @ 3:12 pm
I'd like to see more challenges where people will be using skills that are actually going to be applicable if they win the year-long job. Some of the challenges in the first season were good, others sucked as far as determining who would actually be a good executive.
Also, make the challenges "gender blind" so the women can't use sexuality to win. I thought that a lot of the womens' behavior was demeaning to businesswomen everywhere. You don't have to dress like a nun, but if you want to be taken seriously, you dress and act more professionally than most of the women on Season One did. There's nothing wrong with being attractive and charming. Carolyn is attractive, and she can be charming when she wants to, but she doesn't dress like a skank, and she gives off a professional vibe. I hope the women on the next season will pay more attention. Because for all Season One's womens' early successes as a team, it all came to naught in the end.
SerendipityCA
Apr 18, 2004 @ 5:33 pm
There's a place on the official web site where you can submit task suggestions, I think.
Might be fun to do some brainstorming on this thread then collect all our ideas in one document and mail them off to Mark Burnett under the nom de plume "Joe Twop!"
Edited because there's no such thing as a nom de plum
GoddessMelissa
Apr 18, 2004 @ 5:47 pm
1. Make it two nights like American Idol(no not singing):
One night a full hour of the task and the next night is a half an hour (hell thinking about the NBC schedule full hour) of the Boardroo. It would be cool to see a review of all the candidates during the Boardroom. It could be real quick one minute things by whoever of the Viceroys overlooked the project.
2. A few weeks into the task bring in really hot looking apprentices. Male Models and Supermodels. You got it "Average Apprentice".
3. Cater a lunch for The Donald's ex-wives. Winner could be one that makes the ex-wife the happiest or the unhappiest. I guess that depends on The Donald's mood.
4. Law&Order: The Apprentice
goobaletta
Apr 18, 2004 @ 6:00 pm
4. Law&Order: The Apprentice
Hee! Also... EEEEK! Not another one!
I'd like for the PMs to have the ability to give disruptive/idiotic teammates time outs. "You, Assy! Go to your room until tomorrow!"
Jenkinra
Apr 18, 2004 @ 6:08 pm
Also, make the challenges "gender blind" so the women can't use sexuality to win.
On that note, don't divide men and women into separate teams in the first place. Maybe my office is just weird, but you know, we never work "boys against girls."
GoddessMelissa
Apr 18, 2004 @ 6:20 pm
On that note, don't divide men and women into separate teams in the first place. Maybe my office is just weird, but you know, we never work "boys against girls."
On some level all offices work that way.
terxav
Apr 20, 2004 @ 12:59 am
Since the first season is over I can now really concetrate on season 2.
Some suggestions:
1) Have George and Carolyn choose eight contestants from the pool, that way at least the teams could start out more even. Or have Trump choose eight and have Carolyn and George choose eight together.
2) Have a preshow where we get introduced to the contestants, alot of facts about S1 were left out or came up later in the season. It would be nice to have more information from the start.
3) Instead of the clip show mid-season have the Four Horseman return and interview the eight remaining contestants. Now that would give you clips for an hour that everyone would like to see. There would not be any firings but it would definitely make everyone step up their game. If this had happened mid-season 1 I think Nick might have been clued into the fact that simply "letting the competition eliminate themselves" is not enough. Trump wants actual performance. Plus for the candidates who had not been to the boardroom the interview experience would have been helpful - Amy. A midseason interview would have helped Amy realize that she really didn't know what it meant to be "the apprentice".
4) In the tasks where they take over a business and manage the staff - how about hearing from the staff - the employees (not the other contestants) to see what they thought about the contestants. The employees of the individual tasks would be perfect because they would have no agenda. "Yeah Bill had good ideas but he treated us like idiots." - That would have been really interesting given that many people say they would like to work for someone like Kwame vs. someone like Bill. Let DT hear that.
5) Give credit for ideas that will work for more than just one task. I think one of the things about business is that you come up with ideas that can be used over again. The advertising on the pedicabs for instance was brilliant because the company could actually use that idea in the future to generate income.
6) Peer review - What happened sometimes this season was that while someone was PM another member of the team actually came up with the main ideas or seemed to lead the team. At each boardroom have the contestants say who performed the best on thier team and why - but let this be in a confessional - so that they feel they can express themselves without ramifications.
7) Taking idea 6 a little further, what about having each team member rank the individuals on the team and using composite scores have the lowest ranking member of each team plus the PM of the losing team go to the boardroom. That way slugs would have the possibility of getting eliminated and the team would have some say in the process. That would allow the final decision to still be DTs, but the mix of the boardroom would definitely be shaken up. Plus the speculation of who ranked who last could cause some conflict. Oh but the winning team would get the reward and then the boardroom would occur. That way even the member from the winning team that would go to the boardroom would at least share in the reward. This would also give DT a little more latitude in firings, now just because your team wins it does not mean you are safe. I think this would also keep the fly under the radar types out of the game.
viviane
Apr 20, 2004 @ 1:34 am
terxav, I particularly like #7 -- it seems that many people here complained that, say, Katrina lasted as long as she did just because she happened to be on the winning team. I also like the way that it has the potential to distinguish between "competent," "good," and "great."
Additionally, I'd like to see some restructuring of the final tasks. The teams' comments in the last BR were completely predictable and not especially insightful. Perhaps, as others have mentioned, the same team could work for each of the finalists over different periods of time.
Wallyhorse
Apr 20, 2004 @ 2:31 am
To all:
One thing I do think could be done next season is to perhaps produce two versions of the show: The one on NBC that would air Thursday, and an expanded, three-hour version that would have its first airing on NBC Saturday night from 8:00-11:00 PM ET/PT (as Saturday nights have been a virtual wasteland outside of the Law & Order franchise repeats anyway), with a second airing the next afternoon on CNBC from 3:00-6:00 PM ET/Noon-3:00 PM PT. That to me would be the way to do it.
On another front, I do think along with many others that next season should be teams that would equally be men and women. That to me would work very well.
Walt
SVNBob
Apr 20, 2004 @ 3:22 am
terxav, perhaps they could combine your team ranking idea with my use of the stock ticker in the intro idea. Then we'd know each week who else was close to axing, etc. It'd be a sor of Easter egg for the devoted viewers, us.
choco
Apr 20, 2004 @ 11:26 am
Wow! Some really great ideas here. Maybe we should send a link to NBC. I'm serious. Wordy word WORD to all the suggestions!
I pretty much agree, but feel adamant about the following:
* Do NOT bring back the Apprentice 1 cast-offs - especially Omarosa! They've all had their 15 minutes, and now it's time for the fresh batch of famewhores to have their chance. I do not want to see them back on this show in any capacity: mole, sabaetur, advisor, task master, whatever. Enough already!
* Teams should be chosen by random lots every week. That would be a true reshuffling. I'm tired of seeing them in their little cliques. It reduces the cattiness level and we can see who really has the ability to adapt to different personalities.
* ITA on the individual tasks. Separate them from the herd. No more riding on coat-tails, taking credit for something you didn't do, slacking off when you're not leading or flying under the radar. Let's see how they do on their own.
* Mix up the business tasks. This season was very heavy on sales and promotion geared tasks. Let's see more operations, financial, marketing, HR, project planning.
* Word on getting reviewed by the staff of the businesses they oversee, and more feedback from the viceroys. At least 20 minutes should be spent on the BR.
* All applicants should be evaluated by a psychiatrist to make sure they are mentally fit to be a credible candidate. Also, not everyone has to be a high-strung Type A personality to be successful. I would especially like to see more women who are not prone to hysteria.
* The interviews should definitely be held sooner. What's the point of waiting until the very end to find out you're not the "right fit" for the organization?
stdcem13
Apr 20, 2004 @ 1:12 pm
If Assaroma is brought back for Apprentice 2, I flat out will not watch it. I don't find her behavior in the least amusing or intriguing. It's just pathetic and disgusting.
Her 15 minutes of fame should have been gone about 15,678,393,345 minutes ago.
Krissie
Apr 20, 2004 @ 2:03 pm
If Omarosa is brought back, I will not watch. Is there anywhere we can write to Mark Burnett/Trump/NBC to boycott this woman? Seriously, it's ridiculous to keep rewarding her!