I guess there goes our theory of more than one firing. Dammit!

I figured it was Mike Piazza whom the girls used to ho the tootpaste. Blech, porn stache. I'd run the other way.

This is an almost-new quote, though...italics mine...previously I had thought he was using the word "mayhem" in reference to the homeless lady incident:

But I bet the boardroom brawling is partially because of that woman and what happened.

Heh. If I were Piazza? I'd run so far so fast in the opposite direction from Jen C. after the way she moons over him in the promo. First she moons over Trumpy, now Piazza. How much you wanna bet she moons over Bill next week when he subs for George? IF she's still in the game, of course.

Oh yeah that will totally figure into the mayhem. I wonder who will sass Carolyn this time?
Word about Jen C being a "moonie". She's one of those women who's totally delusional, thinking that there's "chemistry" between her and every man in the world. Poor thing. Get some self-esteem.

Just saw that goobaletta mentioned this in another thread (Media); obviously it's not a "full" spoiler since it was a mass media source, but he said it apparently independent of talking about the show. I thought it might be interesting to ponder as a potential spoiler for an upcoming task? goobaletta, were you thinking the same thing?

My heart can't take this...I just can't wait until Thursday to see this smackdown. Burnett said in some interview that the first three episodes of TA2 were the best work he's done and he specifically said of the boardroom stuff and how the contestants pulled a Survivor. If these spoilers are true, these past three shows would indeed be some awesome television for three straight weeks.

And then all downhill from here? Hee.
Was he saying that the "Survivior" stuff and the boardroom stuff were the same week, or different weeks? I personally think we saw the Survivor stuff last week, at least some of it, with the bitches ganging up on Stacie, but it was in the boardroom too.
What I'm getting at is that I wonder if the fireworks this week will live up to the hype? I have a feeling: yes.



I checked and didn't see this posted yet:

This is the steak knives vs. panini maker task.

oops, double post, sorry.

Literally? Perhaps Trumpy drags all of the apprenti into the boardroom, including the team that wins (but enlists a homeless woman?). There were just too many people shocked to death by The Hair's decision that the cameramen were overwhelmed.

Oh, and the bit about "the struggling women's team" going into Episode 5 leads me to believe with absolute certainty that they lose this toothpaste mission. However, Mosaic invokes the wrath of the Trumpet and somehow one of them gets canned.

BTW, It is THURSDAY!!

Thank goodness!

OK I'll take that first part happily, but sincerely hope Mosaic isn't the team to lose a member. Oh God, no pun intended! Bwah!

Yay, Thursday. Finally.

ETA: upthread (or, gah, was that inappropriately in the media thread?) someone mentioned that you could see the Washington Square arch in the background of the girls' task in the latest preview. I just rewatched, and you can't actually see it...you see buildings. At least, the preview I saw. So...that's not really a spoiler, as far as I can tell.

Could it be possible that DT switches up the men and women into mixed teams next week? Thus breaking up the Heathers, which I'm certain would be good news for Apex. Because, given the length of the show, I don't see how he can fire more than one person at a time until the end.

No, I don't think that he would switch the teams this early in the season; maybe a bit later to shake things up.

Based on the TV Guide blurb about the struggling women's team, I think it is safe to say that they either lose in week 3 or 4 or both weeks. Is is that wishful thinking on my part?

Heard Trump this morning on the radio. He said that while last week's show was one of his favorites, tonight's is kind of tough. He specifically mentioned racial tension.

I would imagine that it would be against Stacie. Do you think that one of the Heathers actually uses a racial slur against her? That would be kind of stupid, even by their standards.

I can't imagine so. I mean, that would be a much bigger deal, in terms of the show itself and the advertising, than "Rules are broken in the boardroom!" Also, using an actual slur would cause much worse than "tension," in my mind, and far be it for the Trumpster to actually underplay something.

It also could be Ivana, particularly if Apex puts the blame for Bradfired's firing on her shoulders.

It may tie in with the race of the "Crest" woman. I am really, really, and I mean really interested in how the show will handle what happened with her.

I caught the tail end of Trump on Stern this morning, any more spoilers from that interview?

Interesting... It sounds like the women's team loses and they end up in the BR again. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the women uses a racial slur. My money is on Sandy or Stumpy Stacy.

Or, the one who can't shut up when she's in the boardroom -- Jen C.?

If there is indeed "racial tension," how stupid are these people? Did they not see what happened (or didn't happen) between Ereka and Omarosa last season? Trumpet tends to exaggerate, though.

This would be a surprise to me. As mentioned, Trump is pretty fond of exaggeration, and stating his opinion as fact, though, so I could see where it's possible that there's more bitchery against Stacie J. and he asks her if she thinks it's racially motivated. Basically no matter what she responded, he'd think what he wanted, you know?
That said, he definitely seems abnormally somber in that clip from the boardroom where he says (whatever) is a serious problem.

I think that while DT exaggerates, he's able to see through the crap people throw at him in the Boardroom. If Stacie J. cries racism, I think that he'd see through. Therefore, I think that there's either racial tension concerning the hired help or Stacie J. Someone says something racially insensitive against one of them (maybe not a slur, but something out of line).

Well, let me elaborate on what I heard this morning. When he said tonight's episode is kind of tough, it seemed like Trump wasn't happy with whatever went down, and what he had to do.

Last week I heard him specifically say that the show was terrific, and that it centers around the young man Bradford. By terrific, I'm assuming he was talking about how he felt about his own performance, but you have to admit that he pretty much gave away the story of the week. I was pretty sure that Baldford was going to get booted from the minute Trump started riding him, but only because of what Trump said that morning.

So, given that, I'm kind of down about what might happen tonight. Regardless of what causes the "racial tension", the tone of Trump's statements made it sound like he's got the real deal going on tonight, and that just sucks.

ETA: And by that, I'm saying that it sucks it actually happened, and not that it sucks because it's going to be bad for my TV show.

As far as mixing teams, do we know for sure whether or not there's movement before this task, now that there's only 7 men but still nine women?

Wow. Sounds like it. Trump does tend to exaggerate, but, he's always seen through the bullshit when it comes to the race card. He was nonplussed by Omarosa's accusation last year. Therefore, if Trump, himself, is talking about "racial tension", then it must be really bad. I suspect this will be an incident that is caught on tape and verified.

I know this is kinda random...Stacie J. isn't the only candidate who could possibly be the victim of racial tension. There's also Raj and as someone else mentioned, Ivana, and of course the homeless woman.
Regardless, this does suck because I don't want the show to be tainted yet again.

Yes, and there are also a few Jewish individuals.

Kevin too.

Somehow I doubt it will be Kevin, Ivana or Raj. They all seem like the type who roll with the majority. Stacie is already an outcast so that makes her more vulnerable. I could see one of the other women seeing her outsider status as an excuse to vent some racism, and thinking that would be acceptable.

If it's racial tension, then I think it probably involves Stacie J. Especially since it's quite obvious that seemingly all the women greatly dislike her.

I don't think that "racial tension" would involve Jews, since the great majority of Jews are white. I thought Jewish was an ethnicity, not a race.

Yeah I didn't mention Kevin because I was really just thinking about the women. But Helter Skelter, I guess you have a good point about Jews potentially being racially singled out too, though it didn't occur to me for some reason. (And I'm Jewish! Weird)
Whether Jews are a culture vs. an ethnicity is probably not an issue to get into here, but there are lots of opinions about that.

OT, but some of my Israeli relatives (and my parents) would disagree!
Anyhoo. Now I cannot wait for tonight. I sincerely hope that Ivana is the one to get the boot, and after last week's hysteric meltdown, she should be the one to go regardless of which team wins.

I was thinking about the poster upthread who analyzed the opening credits in hopes of figuring out the final two opponents. He/she said that Sandy and John were heavily focused, with Sandy seemingly "coming in first"? Said poster came back later to say that the finale will be live so there is no chance that the outcome has already been decided.

However. I think it's worth noting that last year's boardroom was live, but the challenges were taped. I'm sure that Trumpet and his advisors knew who was going to win before the boardroom... so it's possible that Sandy has already been decided as the winner (providing the show is already complete).

DT said the other night on The Insider that Season Two is complete except for the finale that will air live and be 3 hours.

I honestly don't think Sandy has a shot for the same reason Troy didn't last time - no college. Trump has said in several interviews that Troy lost primarily due to that lack.

Three hours and counting! And I didn't make Red Velvet cake, but I did make devils food w/dark chocolate icing. Why yes, I have a pint of ice cream too. Coffee. Coz I'm an addict... [/OT]

The only reason I'd bet on Stacie is that there's already tension surrounding her that does not directly involve the tasks and might possibly have a racial component--not saying it does, but y'all know what I mean. It has to do with her person, in any case, rather than her contribution to the actual work. Any racial tension involving Kevin, Ivana, Raj, or anyone else would be something totally new. Could happen, I'm just saying if it involves someone else we haven't seen any sort of inkling of it yet.

I agree. She isn't very educated, but, unlike Troy, she lacks charm, charisma and street smarts to compensate. Judging from her behavior in the BR and her confessionals, Sandy has quite the temper on her. I could see her getting hysterical quite easily. Also, the hair has gotta go. She looks like a shitzu.

never mind. point already made.

Well, we now know that the "one candidate starts to emotionally unravel" can't be Stacie. My money is on Ivana. Anyone know any spoilers about who won this one? I just hope and hope it's not Apex. If they win now, they will have it in their minds that they were indeed right that Stacie was the reason for their string of losses.

OK, this is a very attenuated spoiler source, but bear with me...

My roommate's friend from college used to work with Ivana at some investment bank here in NYC, before Ivana moved to Boston. The roommate met Ivana at the US Open two or three years ago, and was horrified to find out she was on TA2. She described Ivana as a "snotty bitch."

Anyway, apparently Ivana has a big mouth and blabbed to some of her friends that she sticks around until at least week 6. She's supposedly very nervous because she violated all kinds of confidentiality agreements by revealing this info.

Are you listening, NBC legal? Please sue her ass.

Hee!

I'm shocked.



Probably not much farther than that, then. If you're going to try to make yourself look good, you use as high a number as you can get away with.

What's the task for Week 6?

I don't think we have that information as yet, 4Sibes. At least I haven't seen anything. Has anyone else?

Okay, if indeed Ivana "sticks around until at least week 6" then I'd bet good $$ that Apex loses the week 6 task and she gets fired.

Week 4 - restaurant task. 15 players, no team switching yet. We don't know who wins for certain, but from the clues we've been given about unconventional use of sex sells, I'm deducing Mosaic wins. No idea who might go from Apex, although if there's any justice it will be Maria or Smeagol. We also know that at least one player begins to unravel emotionally thus making them a likely target in the boardroom.

Week 5 - QVC task. 14 players, but Apex only has six so Apex gets a new team member from Mosaic at the start of the task to even things up. No clue as to who they might choose. It's been spoiled Apex wins by selling steak knives. No idea who gets fired from Mosaic.

Week 6 - No task info so far. 13 players. Ivana's still in play for the task but she's blabbed around that she is there "until at least week 6" so that's how I formed my above conclusion.

Hmm. With regard to the Crest-homeless woman story...
Maybe the guys carried the stuff themselves?
This is just one of a ton of pictures from www.nbcumv.com and there are lots of other pics of the task in progress as well.

Someone mentioned that Apex wasn't the guilty party wrt to the homeless woman based partly on a photo of Stacie handing out samples from the back of a truck, but there's a nearly identical shot of John doing the same thing.

Sounds like a reasonable theory there, goobaletta.

I would disagree with one point, however - I don't think Apex would get to raid Mosaic for the QVC task.

I wasn't around for season 1 (I should get around to checking out the DVDs sooner or later), but from the recaps, it seems like Trump didn't start rebalancing the teams until there was a major discrepancy in team sizes.

So it's possible for Trump to rebalance with 7 per team, but I'm unsure that he would actually do it this early in the game. Perhaps the women get the more desirable item (knives) because they are outnumbered.

Shit, I hope this possible spoiler is wrong:


From the Vail Daily News

Wouldn't he have to miss the party the week he was fired so he could make the Today show the next morning?

Yeah, actually, unless he takes a redeye back to the city from Vail, crossing a couple of time zones in the process. I will say this, if and when he's fired, you bet your sweet ass I'll be at NBC's studios the next morning to see him ;)

Does that mean the Mosiac loses the food task? Nooooooo. Does that mean that Raj gets fired. Why, unless he's the one who freaks out.

Raj won't get fired. Stupid marketing guys at NBC blew it by saying



It's pretty much safe to say that Raj will survive this upcoming episode. The women will suffer once again.

ps. NBC needs to fire every idiots for posting that promo.


By the way, who is rude and arrogant of a "new" leader for APex? Pamela??!! Will she get picked to be on APex to even up the team? Making it the original men vs women. I hope so.

God, take your pick. They're all wildly rude and arrogant, except Jennifer M. (and hell, we don't know if she is yet).
But just to clarify, this is the October 7 show, not the next one. So Raj might actually be gone after next week, though I certainly hope not!
This week's episode will air on Wednesday due to the Presidential debates, and features a restaurant task. TV Guide says "not surprisingly, one of the teams uses sex as a weapon".