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Obladi

Oct 19, 2005 @ 7:29 pm

Could the photo be from after the episode four boardroom? Jennifer comes back in tears because the women are an awful team, and James comforts her?

ghettofabman

Oct 19, 2005 @ 8:16 pm

I am thinking that the photo of Jennifer M. and James occurs after the two team presentations and before the losers boardroom, which could possibly mean that Capital Edge loses (maybe because of Jennifer getting flustered) and Excel wins.

AmberDawn

Oct 19, 2005 @ 9:53 pm

If you look at the background of the photo where James consoles the crying Jennifer, it doesn't appear to be from the suite.

http://img431.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tadep4035ss.jpg

also there is this photo of what appears to be Josh which is entitled "late team"

http://img431.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tadep405late3nz.jpg

so it might be, Capital Edge wins by default.

Also there is the interview with Jennifer Wallen which insinuates that Jennifer Murphy may not have been such a strong player on the womens team.

http://www.realityshack.com/modules/articl...cle.php?id=1283

Why do you think Rebecca chose to take you and Jennifer M. into the boardroom?

Rebecca said that it was because Jennifer wasted time and energy on things that didn't matter to the task. She also complained that Jennifer stayed up all night but she still did not have her outline sheet ready for her station until the expo had already started. Rebecca seems to think that Jennifer is spacey and lacks the intelligence and common sense to be a key player for the team[/quote]

If Excel does the equivalent of Netscape drafting Alex, by asking Jen M to join them, they might be setting themselves up for a loss. Also if Jen M is a time waster as the Jen W. interview suggests, it may contribute to the men's team being late.

SeaBreeze341

Oct 19, 2005 @ 11:04 pm

Obladi, good speculation on who'll be fired during the massive firing bit. However, for some reason, I just don't see Rebecca leaving so soon, compared to Markus. Yeah, Markus won and Rebecca lost, so why Rebecca over Markus. There are two reasons (and I'll get to the second in a little bit). Rebecca is way too dangerous and powerful in the boardroom, and she was in a position where several other folks would have pulled out. However, she stayed strong and never left the game. When and if she's given a second chance to run things, without some distractions (Toral, several of the women), she'll shine.

I hope that Trump doesn't do to Randal what he did to Pam in season 2. Put Randal in charge of the women's team and if they don't win Trump blames Randal for the team still losing.[/quote]

No way would Randal be leaving this soon, not with the editing he has had.[/quote]

Also, Randal won and was a very strong leader (IMO really), unlike Pam, who lost twice as PM and was basically given a second chance to run things, and failed the second time.

Something that I was going to put into the speculation thread not too long ago before I got busy, didn't get around to it, and learned from the unknown was how the final two is slated to include Randal and Rebecca, and moreso Rebecca. For one thing, I can't see anyone else in that position now, and in getting back to my second reason why Rebecca won't go, there was a group picture on a candidate's website (that showed all the girls except for Rebecca). There were a bunch of pictures, and IIRC, Randal wasn't there either. I was thinking for a long time that there a high chance that Randal and Rebecca would go heads-up. It's just fitting: a guy with Five Degrees and a girl whose done so much without ever reaching 25 (yet). Both have faced pain (emotionally and physically) and stayed in the game, and they also squared off, with Randal beating Rebecca.

Anything can happen, just as long as Randal and Rebecca don't tap out. Between those two, I can see Randal winning as much as Rebecca. Randal doesn't have crazy enemies like Rebecca kind of did (mainly due to her loyalty with Toral). If they both perform well, then it's a coin-toss. Of course there's the interviews before the Live Episode (whenever that is (hopefully two days removed from TAR finale)), and I'm not sure how Randal will do (since he has very little Boardroom experience and may struggle like Kevin did). Rebecca will likely rock the Interview process if she makes it there.

Finally, no winning candidate (including Bill, Kelly and Kendra) has ever won the first task in their season, but at the same time, IIRC, no winning candidate has ever lost as PM either. Rebecca didn't win as PM, but Randal won the very first task. So, given those two are in the Final Two, one of those streaks will come to an end. I'd love to see Randal win, although I can recall any black higher-up people/execs/whatever in the Trump Organization (in fact, I don't even know if there are any African-Americans in the Trump Organization), but I'd love to see Rebecca also since she's so about loyalty and making the right call. In addition, she's cute. Between these two, I'll feel very happy when one of them wins, but at the same time, devastated when the other loses.

But yeah, in terms of those pictures, Rebecca definitely wasn't seen in them (could've been post-Sequesterville; it's been a while since I saw them), and it led to a thought that she's in the final two.

ghettofabman

Oct 19, 2005 @ 11:17 pm

If you look at the background of the photo where James consoles the crying Jennifer, it doesn't appear to be from the suite.[/quote]

I am still skeptical about that, AmberDawn. I think that Jennifer and James are indeed in the suite and are probably talking before the boardroom. Why else would Jennifer be crying and James comfort her in her time of need? I am thinking that Capital Edge does loses, but Jennifer M. is still on the team and is in danger of getting fired.

Also, I think that they are standing in front of the refridgerator in the suite. Compare the big silver item in the James and Jennifer photo to this photo of the suite kitchen. If one were to look closely, the refridgerator appears to be a bit taller than James (the tallest person in the suite). Notice in the James/Jen M. picture the horizontal line and the blurry item that either looks like a knob or a label. Next, check the top right hand corner of the refridgerator in the picture. This leads me to believe that they are talking after the task and before the boardroom.

Magsi2

Oct 19, 2005 @ 11:20 pm

Finally, no winning candidate (including Bill, Kelly and Kendra) has ever won the first task in their season, but at the same time, IIRC, no winning candidate has ever lost as PM either. Rebecca didn't win as PM, but Randal won the very first task.[/quote] SeaBreeze341 , Randal wasn't the first PM, Markus was and they didn't give him immunity for the Bally's task . Randal was PM for task 3 (the techno expos).

SeaBreeze341

Oct 20, 2005 @ 12:06 am

Obladi

Oct 20, 2005 @ 12:50 am

ghetto I agree w/you about the fridge. James looks like he has taken his tie off (unless he chose to avoid a tie) and it's the end of the day. Her hair and makeup look frazzled, end of the day.

However, for some reason, I just don't see Rebecca leaving so soon, compared to Markus. Yeah, Markus won and Rebecca lost, so why Rebecca over Markus.[/quote]

I don't think Markus would leave over Rebecca, I initially thought they would leave at the same time. She lost and she kept Toral safe, defying the Trump doctrine, and he does not forgive easily (one of the reasons he fired Stephanie was her decision to send Angie back upstairs). I think he also resents people who are too polished in the boardroom. He would rather have a loose cannon in the boardroom and a genius in tasks than vice versa.

You may be right. He could fire Jennifer M instead of Rebecca. Jennifer began earning more airtime. The photo of him hugging her could also be a foreshadow. Josh-Markus-James-Jennifer would fit a four firing pattern. Brian-Adam-James are all blank, they could all go or stay, but James is the one who suddenly got airtime last week for nothing of substance, and that is not a good sign.

Hoola

Oct 20, 2005 @ 1:20 am

there was a group picture on a candidate's website (that showed all the girls except for Rebecca). There were a bunch of pictures, and IIRC, Randal wasn't there either. [/quote]

The pictures are from Marshawn's site and Randal is there. It's not like the Jen C. picture spoiler because the pictures don't appear to be from L'Hotel Loseurs. It's a reunion party.

The people not in the pictures are Chris, Mark, Clay, Rebecca, James and Adam. Chris is already gone, obviously.

Marshawn, Josh, Randal

I can't stand Rebecca and think she has shown incompetence in her awful stint as PM and not contributing anything to any task yet other than the name 'Zip.' And for being an elitist, Toral-defending snob. I'd hate to see her make the final four due to pulling the wool over Trump's eyes in the boardroom. I hope the F2 is Marshawn and Randal. She's actually won as PM.

Jen M. was specifically sighted at the Dick's Sporting Good project, so I think she's definitely safe.

Obladi

Oct 20, 2005 @ 2:30 am

Your logic is flawed, James AND Adam both suddenly got airtime last week. Adam got it with him talking to the camera like James did, and the song thing, which wasn't shown in the presentation.[/quote]

The song was important because they had to build suspense over whether Excel would lose. James was shown talking about Clay and given time to show his baseball skills. To me it felt like they were suddenly bumping him up because he might be on his way out in a few weeks. Or James AND Adam could be mass fired. The mens team has plenty of empty suits.

The people not in the pictures are Chris, Mark, Clay, Rebecca, James and Adam.[/quote]

That means either these people were busy the week of the reunion or they didn't get along w/everyone else. Clay-Mark-James-Adam are four of the people speculated on regarding mass firing. Or the photo may not mean anything.

Jen M. was specifically sighted at the Dick's Sporting Good project, so I think she's definitely safe.[/quote]

I think Kristi or Alla are out this week, maybe Kristi since we know so much about her horrid ways. Jen M might be on the seat next episode.

CheekyCricket

Oct 20, 2005 @ 11:08 am

What I meant was that [Randal] was on the winning team. Sorry I wasn't clear on that. It still holds true (or rather, none of the first three (Erika, Bradford, or John) made it into the final Four), but to be clear, no winning candidate has been on the winning team of the very first task in their season.[/quote]

However, there's another important statistic: Kelly, Bill and Kendra all won their first task as PM. Rebecca did not, and she did a so-so job leading the team, for all her boardroom fire and steel. Right now, that gives Randal the edge over Rebecca, since the win-loss record of the finalists has been an issue in the final boardrooms.

seltzer4

Oct 20, 2005 @ 11:56 am

The previews show the women's meeting again....nothing much came out...but it seems that Marshawn has more positive lighting again. Seems to imply that she goes far.

Basically the women (Marshawn) are discussing that all past grudges needs to be dropped. Everything that is going on between Rebecca/Toral vs. the blondes needs to be forgotten.

Bevinlondon

Oct 20, 2005 @ 1:01 pm

In the photo where James consoles crying Jennifer, he is wearing the same shirt that he is wearing in the Yahoo preview video. So maybe that scene happens right after the girls meeting in the bedroom.

King Solomon

Oct 20, 2005 @ 2:27 pm

Every time I think I have it figured out, someone else comes up with a wonderfully plausible explanation that explodes my theory. Thanks AmberDawn.

Well, suspending disbelief for a moment and pretending that I actually have some idea of what is going to happen, here is my lowdown:

Episode 5 - Women get to pick one man, they pick Randal. Excel wins, Cap Edge loses, Kristi gets fired.

Episode 6 - PMs get to send 3 over to the other side. New lineups:
Excel - Jen M, Marshawn, Rebecca, James, Josh, Mark (5'10") and Clay (5'7")
Cap Edge - Alla, Felisha, (Kristi), Adam, Brian, Markus and Randal

I think most speculations are close to this, but Brian has got to be about 5'3", so Clay would be the 5'7" dude.

Excel loses. Boardroom Bloodbath. 4 Spreadsheets get deleted. Who are the goners? Marshawn and James stay, so I think it would be Josh, Mark, Rebecca and Clay or Jen M. Using Melissa's potential spoiler on her Ponderosa pals, I say Josh, Jen M, Mark and Rebecca take a very crowded taxi together. Maybe they stick together in the Boardroom and Trump clears the table.

That would make the sides Excel 3 and CE 6, so a CE goes to Excel. The traumatized Excelsiors get to pick a new teammate and shades of Amy from TA1, they pick Randal. So now Excel has 4 and CE has 5.

Episode 7: Markus is still around, so I guess Cap Edge loses and Markus finally heads out. Now both teams have 4.

Episode 8: The non-spikey hair guy between Adam and Brian takes it in the neck.

Episode 9: Spoiler report of 2 blonds (Alla, Felisha) and a spikey hair guy (Adam or Brian) . Even though I think Brian is more likely to be described as short, I don't think Adam would be described as having spikey hair. Clay also has spikey hair, but if my 5'7" guess is correct, he is on Excel.

So at the beginning of Episode 9, the teams would be:
Excel - Marshawn, James, Clay and Randal
Cap Edge - Alla, Felisha, Brian

We go back and forth and the final 4 are Marshawn, Randal, Alla and Clay or Brian. Final 2...Marshawn and Randal.

If I am wrong (which will probably turn out to be true in a few hours), my apologies for wasting your time. If a miracle happens and I have a clue, remember, you read it here first.

Bevinlondon

Oct 20, 2005 @ 2:51 pm

Are the apprentice contestants allowed to be seen at public events before they are fired? Only there is a news report on the Yahoo news site, that Alla was at a Las Vegas charity event along side the likes of Demi Moore. Could this be a possible spoiler that Alla gets fired this week and says in her best Arnold Schwarzenegger voice, "I'll be back!".

ghettofabman

Oct 20, 2005 @ 3:32 pm

KingSolomon, I definitely think that on the broader scale, that it is going to go down the way you have it. The only thing we disagree on is which one is on the new Capital Edge.....Brian or Clay? You say Brian and I think Clay. Other than that, we agree on everything else.

King Solomon

Oct 20, 2005 @ 3:51 pm

KingSolomon, I definitely think that on the broader scale, that it is going to go down the way you have it. The only thing we disagree on is which one is on the new Capital Edge.....Brian or Clay? You say Brian and I think Clay. Other than that, we agree on everything else.[/quote]
Good to know I'm not alone in my prognostication.

On the Brian vs. Clay topic...my only reason for putting Brian on Cap Edge is that the spoiler said it was a 5'7" male on Excel and based on photos, I can't imagine Brian being credited with being remotely close to that tall. What are your thoughts for putting Brian on Excel?

Obladi

Oct 20, 2005 @ 4:24 pm

Clay is 5'8'', right? He would be close to 5'7'' then. I thought Brian was closer to 5'5''.

ghettofabman

Oct 20, 2005 @ 4:36 pm

Since the height thing seems questionable, the only other thing I went by is the rest of DebbieJoan's description. She specifically states that she saw "a very short (5'7" maybe) guy with darker brown hair." When I look at Clay's hair color, I see blonde. Brian is the one who has darker brown hair, hence, my speculation that Brian remains on Excel and Clay is with Capital Edge.

cudareef

Oct 20, 2005 @ 4:51 pm

Obviously the men's team cannot lose this task or else why would Donald mix up the teams next week? If the women's team loses again even with the likely addition of Randal, then he will mix up the teams. He will mix up the teams next week so the women's team will lose. Possible people who can be fired: Rebecca, Marshawn, Jennifer M, Kristi, Alla, Felisha, Randal (likely on their team). Rebecca, Marshawn, and Jennifer M cannot be fired because they are seen next week. As I said, it is most likely Randal on their team. It is extremely unlikely he will be fired. So that leaves Kristi, Alla, Felisha. Guess what, no Markus for those people who thought Markus would be fired (by the way he was also said to appear next week through the "good looking brown hair fairly tall guy spoiler" and also I'm pretty sure a spoiler that said Markus specifically was in the Dick's Sporting Goods store). So, Kristi, Alla, Felisha can be fired. Kristi and Felisha have already been PMs so Alla is more likely to be fired because she will likely be PM. Alla in her interview on nbc.com is very abrasive and a know it all when it comes to playing the Apprentice, this hasn't really been seen on the show, but it should come out soon and I think she won't last in this game. Kristi could be like Ivana in not being a good candidate and lasting a long time. I think Alla is the worst out of the 3 blondes (not counting Jennifer M who is considered the best blonde). Kristi is the most likely out of the 3 main blondes I've mentioned to be one of the two "short blondes" in the future episode in I believe task 9.

Obladi

Oct 20, 2005 @ 5:25 pm

She specifically states that she saw "a very short (5'7" maybe) guy with darker brown hair." When I look at Clay's hair color, I see blonde.[/quote]

His hair looks brown to me, sometimes dark depending on the lighting (it looked dark when he was giving the DQ presentation). But Brian does have darker hair than Clay, although he looks shorter than 5'7''.

I guess we won't find out until next week.

CheekyCricket

Oct 20, 2005 @ 5:43 pm

Your final remark is interesting, Obladi, because I was just thinking that, what with all the possible combinations of variables, I'm more interested in seeing next week's episode than tonight's episode. The choice of firee will be key.

tiggeril

Oct 20, 2005 @ 5:54 pm

I thought Brian's bio said he was closer to 5' 1"?

AmberDawn

Oct 20, 2005 @ 5:55 pm

As far as the episode 6 spoiler is concerned, the person that posted seems to be quite good estimating heights. Some people are. Both Clay and Mark are shorter than Josh. Mark has weird body proportions that may make him appear taller than he really is. But if Josh is 5'9, Clay and Mark are both around 5'7". Adam is slightly taller than Josh, say 5'10".

lauriecake

Oct 20, 2005 @ 6:19 pm

I thought Brian's bio said he was closer to 5' 1"? [/quote]

Yeah, on Brian's audition tape, he said he was 5'1.

Obladi

Oct 20, 2005 @ 7:05 pm

Your final remark is interesting, Obladi, because I was just thinking that, what with all the possible combinations of variables, I'm more interested in seeing next week's episode than tonight's episode. The choice of firee will be key.[/quote]

To me the blondes are all the same, although my ears will have a party if Kristi is finally given the Raid spray. The questions for me are which man is PM and presumably exempted after his performance this week (if it's Josh then my prediction goes out the window) and which reshuffled team will have Markus since he is my most likely pick for a mass firing.

I still have no idea how two of the blondes last to the final rounds. If they are on a team w/Clay, maybe his early remark (bonding with women) come true and they win some tasks together. Or maybe we see Josh going on about Clay because he and Clay leave at the same time. But I think whoever goes it will be three men and one woman and at least one of them will probably be James or Adam.

EDIT:

So now we know Kristi is gone. We also know Brian is safe next week. We can assume if the spoiler is right, Alla and Felisha are safe. Randal and Marshawn do not seem to be going anywhere. Is Adam 5'7''? Adam or Clay would be the guy w/Alla and Felisha. That leaves:

Mark, Clay, Rebecca, Josh, Markus, Jennifer M, Adam, James

Aren't Josh, Markus and Jennifer M all on a team together? Trump hates Markus, Carolyn hates Jennifer, they both had bad performances. Josh was pushed in people's faces tonight as a negative force. I think the three of them are on their way out.

Who will the fourth be? We know nothing about Adam or James. We have seen bad and good from Mark (more good than bad) and Clay (more bad than Clay).

Since Trump wanted to fire Mark in an earlier episode, and we're seeing more of James, I think one of them is on the chopping block. Clay leaving wouldn't surprise me either, but I wonder if his bad behavior was pointed out for suspense more than a sign he was going to be fired. Do we know he's on a separate team from Markus?. If Josh is PM then he would send away Markus, Clay and probably Brian (since Brian has an exemption). If Mark or Adam are PM they might send Josh, Clay and Markus.

I'm going to have a hard time picturing Markus lasting another week w/the way he was presented tonight. He was invisible for two weeks, then he shows back up tonight to remind us of his flaws.

King Solomon

Oct 20, 2005 @ 10:16 pm

I started writing this in the episode thread, but realized it was probably too spoilerish and I don't want to incur anyone's wrath.

We have seen the future...

Brian. dude, you are in my Final 4. I wish James could get there, but it would be tough to bump out Alla. Randal and Marshawn, well, they were destined for the Final 4 (probably Final 2) from the moment they walked into their first auditon room (compare their composure to Bill and Kendra). Is there a 2 foot height difference between Randal and Brian? If they were the final 2 and standing side-by-side, how far back would the cameras have to go in order to get both of their faces in the same shot?

Carolyn is pissed at Jen M. Actually, she is pissed at DT for his Miss USA exemption. Bill is also pissed at DT. Can you imagine what Bill and Carolyn were thinking? (Don't Bill and Carolyn make a cute couple?)

So, Jen M is on life support. Markus is Markus again. Josh is nearing the end of his TV time and getting ready to do the blog for TA5. Rebecca can't find anyone to carry her bag (wasn't Randal on her team?). Mark, well, his teeth are too white. Four of these 5 are a week away from the Ponderosa. How badly could they fail? That will be awesome next week. Will they have to get a limo instead of a taxi to cart them all away? I wonder if this is the publicity that Dick's Sporting Goods was looking for?

RhondaGC

Oct 20, 2005 @ 10:26 pm

Well, the previews for next week certainly seemed to feed into most of the spoilculation here: Carolyn is indeed "in charge" at some point (althought it looked like maybe just at the beginning for the corporate reshuffle-seems like Donald comes back for the final BR, assuming the preview wasn't deliberately misleading), and they do tout a "Boardroom First," which I'm assuming is the multiple-firing.

And now that we know Kristi is gone and assuming that this breakdown is correct:

Capital Edge: Alla, Felisha, Randal, Markus, Clay, Adam
Excel: Jennifer M.(tall beautiful (someone said she was a beauty queen) blond haired woman early to mid twentys ),
James (tall (6'2'' I guess) light brown hair, gorgeous guy named James),
Marshawn (slightly shorter black woman, very pretty, didn't see her do much),
Rebecca (third woman looked like early twentys, shorter, brown hair, and she had a broken right leg),
Josh (guy with dirty blond hair and glasses. I believe his name was Josh, he was about 5'9''),
Brian (a very short (5'7" maybe) guy with darker brown hair),
Mark (A nice looking guy about 5'10 with brown hair)[/quote]
Excel loses next week and the firees have to be four of the following: Jenn M, James, Rebecca, Josh and Mark (on the theory that Marshawn isn't going anywhere for a good long time, and Brian is exempt). I think it will be Jenn M, Rebecca (both have been losing PMs) and Josh (which is why we saw his freakout this week). As for the last firee, I have no idea. James has been edited very well, but we've seen little of Mark except for his wearing of the costume last week, so it's hard to know. Maybe one of them is PM?

Anyway, I'm pretty confident about Rebecca and Jen M. Trump gave both of them a second chance, and basically said that directly, and they both screwed up again so they're out of there. The other two I'm more iffy on.

Anyone have any spoilers about what it is that their team screws up so badly that they end up with "the worst defeat we've ever seen"? It must have been something very specific which lead to the loss because apparently Trump only fires *some* of the team members, no all of them or just the PM as you would expect if it were just general incompetence on the part of the team. It almost seems like a case of money being lost or some other really stupid mistake. Of course, I could be over-rationalizing it. It's completely possible that Trump fires four at once because he has four too many players to make the season work out right! He's fired people for less!

yadayada

Oct 20, 2005 @ 10:32 pm

I apologize for being late to the spoilers, but I do have a question. Is the reason why we are assuming excel loses next week is because of the spoiler that reported two small blonde women and man with short spikey hair that were spotted in a future task?

thuganomics85

Oct 20, 2005 @ 10:33 pm

James has been edited very well, but we've seen little of Mark except for his wearing of the costume last week, so it's hard to know. Maybe one of them is PM?[/quote]

I been thinking it might be James, because of the brief conversation with Jenn tonight. Maybe he is PM and fucks up big time. And Jenn sticks with him, and that's the reason she's part of the massive firing. I can defintley see some kind of Tora/Rebecca loyality between the two and it does them in.

Peg Amy

Oct 20, 2005 @ 10:35 pm

It almost seems like a case of money being lost or some other really stupid mistake.[/quote]
Money has been lost before, though (on the task that Kristi was fired on from Season 1, I think.) I find it hard to imagine that a team could screw up so badly that four people would need to be fired and that the PM won't go home. It would still be partially his responsibility if his team failed that badly.

I am dying with curiosity over what they do for it to be the worst defeat ever. Worse than the art sale with the concubines and their frogs? Worse than the Dove Body Wash task? Worse than Raj's team not even finishing their house? What could it be?

Obladi

Oct 20, 2005 @ 10:38 pm

But Brian is 5'1''. Would he be misidentified as 5'7''? Could they have meant a '1' instead of a '7'? He is definitely 'very short'. I don't think any of the other guys come close to 'very short'.

That is the only part of the puzzle missing for me. Clay and Adam are around the same height and are candidates for firing, but if Josh, Mark, Adam, or James were PM, they would probably send Clay to the other team. If not for the spoiler about the two blondes I would say Clay (or Adam)-Alla-Felisha-Markus leave. Then again, Alla and Felisha have had remarkably sparse facetime if they are about to be fired. This would set up a very good story arc though, one team full of the rejects, the other team gloats about their prize stable, they become overconfident and they lose disastrously.

It does seem to be the end of the road for Jennifer and Josh, maybe Rebecca and James (her team keeps failing, she did a poor job when she was PM, she saved Toral; James has had more facetime the past two episodes). If Markus is on the other team then I guess he goes the first time his team loses.

I have no idea what the editing means for Adam. We absolutely never see him (he did talk for a second last week). Were there others who were fired after having no airtime? I think Tara, and the John from the second season. Wait, weren't they both fired in episode 6?

Peg Amy

Oct 20, 2005 @ 11:02 pm

The poster from another board who gave the info about the task with the two blondes just posted again. Here is the info.

I posted about this over the summer before the cast was released and wanted to come back and update it once we had the casts names and such, but I got really busy with work and a move and completely forgot about posting this until tonight.
One day over the summer The Apprentice filmed at my office...I came in and there were XM radio signs hanging on all the walls, which is weird since we have nothing to do with XM.

Anyways, eventually camera crews where everywhere and I saw Carolyn getting off the elevator and put 2 and 2 together. I saw several cast members, and tried to write down as much about them as possible.

So at some point this season there should be an XM radio task.

The only people I am 100% sure about seeing where Randal and Adam, as they I saw them outside giving interviews when I left the office.

I saw a guy in the halls with a camera filming him wearing glasses, hence I'm fairly certain it was Josh.

The only other thing I wrote down was there were two blonde women (I just dont remember enough to guess if they were Jen M, Alla or Felisha) walking down the halls with a tall white man (who I think was Mark, but could have been James).

Its not much, and take it for what its worth. I've not followed this seasons spoilers, so if this is all common knowledge feel free to lock it. I've never had any spoilerish info before, so take it easy.[/quote]

So Randal lives! Yay! But what does this mean? Does this mean that the top six are: Randal, Adam, Josh, 2 blondes, and Mark or James?

yadayada

Oct 20, 2005 @ 11:07 pm

Having looked backed at some dates and times that KingSolomon and AmberDawn (thanks! guys) have been nice enough to figure out, here's what I got:

401: Bally Total Fitness: April 15-16. Boardroom April 17.
402: Lamborghini: April 18,19. Boardroom April 20.
403: Best Buy for Seniors: April 21, 22. Boardroom April 23.
404: Dairy Queen: April 24, 25. Boardroom April 26.

[/quote]

405: Zathura: April 27, and 28. Boardroom April 29. (13 contestants remaining Firees = 4 )
406: Dick's Sporting Goods: April 30, May 1. Boardroom May 2. (9 contestants remaining Firees = 8)
407: ???: May 3 and 4. Boardroom May 5 (8 contestants remaining, firees = 10 (this matches with the NBC description))
407A: ??? May 6 and 7, Boardroom May 8 (7 contestants remaining, firees = 11)
408: XM task: May 9 and 10, Boardroom (6 contestants remaining, firees=12, spoiler re: two small blonde women and man with spikey hair)

I see two possible scenarios:

1) re next week: possibility that both teams lose (think cucumber incident last season) and Donald comes back to fire two members of both teams. That would be a boardroom first cause multiple firees from the same team have been done before.

or

2) Capital edge loses next week, and the two short women (Alla and Felisha) and the guy with spikey hair (Clay) brought back to help out with task (think Stacey J with season 2).

Maybe this is all a fantasy of mine because I like Josh and want him to stay and the fact that Markus has been getting a lousy edit again tells me he has to go next week.

ETA: YAY! Josh lives on!

cudareef

Oct 20, 2005 @ 11:16 pm

Does Mark have spikey hair? This has to do with episode 9 and him being a possibility for the guy with spikey hair. I think he does have spikey hair but I want to see what you guys think. Mark may or may not be on task 9.

ghettofabman

Oct 20, 2005 @ 11:24 pm

What if for next week, we have a definite team winner and no one escapes the boardroom? I think that it is very possible that people from both sides could be fired. My guesses? Markus, Clay, Jennifer M., and Mark. The first three are definitely on borrowed time as mentioned above. I think that Mark will be the PM that goes. The PM showdown will probably be between Mark and Alla.

Magsi2

Oct 20, 2005 @ 11:27 pm

Do we know how next week's reshuffle happens? It would seem that Alla and James will be the PMs. I'm trying to figure out if they each get to get rid of 2 people they don't want and choose 1 they do want from the other team, or if they are able to choose to get rid of 3 players on their teams. I can't imagine Alla wanting to get rid of Marshawn and keep Felisha. I can imagine that James would want her on his team, but then I don't understand why he wouldn't choose Randal to come back. Here's the theory. They each are able to dump 3 from their team. Alla sends Jen, Rebecca and Marshawn to James. James sends Markus, Adam and Brian to the other team. I chose Brian because he has an exemption. You can fill in Clay or Mark if you'd like. I think he'll keep Mark because they seem more buddy-like. I'm really not sure about the Clay decision.

The candidates go head-to-head in the big business arena of sporting goods One team spends the task in left field, while the other struggles with a candidate who's not up-to-par The winners enjoy the thrill of victory and jet out of town, while the losers suffer the agony of defeat in a no-holds-barred boardroom [/quote]
The preview states that 1 team is in left field (hence the batting cages with James) and another isn't up to par (golfing of some sort, maybe putt putt...YIKES!)
ghettofabman I like your idea of the PM being Mark. That saves James! (YAY!)and it really doesn't change much in the idea of the team switching. I'm still undecided about the winning team. There must be one, there is a "jetting" reward. So they can't both be terrible ala cucumber!

Obladi

Oct 21, 2005 @ 12:32 am

Do we know how next week's reshuffle happens?[/quote]

In the other seasons, each PM gets rid of two or three people from each team. The teams now are seven against five. Carolyn would probably ask each PM to move three members, otherwise the team dynamic would stay too close to what they have now.

Mark being PM makes sense if he is fired because he already screwed up once and was not brought to the final boardroom.

Is there a way that the men's PM decides to keep Markus so they will have a scapegoat in case they lose? Then Trump says yes, Markus has to go, but so do (blank) (blank) (blank). I keep wondering if we saw Markus and Josh squabbling because they wanted to foreshadow their upcoming firings. If Markus is not sent to the other team, then that would mean Clay and two others, Brian and Adam probably, go. Otherwise it's Markus, Clay, and probably Brian or Adam.

I can't imagine Alla wanting to get rid of Marshawn and keep Felisha.[/quote]

Felisha and Alla are close, and she would probably keep Randal because he has had success and she doesn't view him as a threat the way she might view other females.

Who were the four guys talking at the beginning of the episode? James, Adam, Mark, Clay? Wonder if that was some kind of foreshadowing.

AmberDawn

Oct 21, 2005 @ 12:50 am

I posted about this over the summer before the cast was released and wanted to come back and update it once we had the casts names and such, but I got really busy with work and a move and completely forgot about posting this until tonight.
One day over the summer The Apprentice filmed at my office...I came in and there were XM radio signs hanging on all the walls, which is weird since we have nothing to do with XM.

Anyways, eventually camera crews where everywhere and I saw Carolyn getting off the elevator and put 2 and 2 together. I saw several cast members, and tried to write down as much about them as possible.

So at some point this season there should be an XM radio task.

The only people I am 100% sure about seeing where Randal and Adam, as they I saw them outside giving interviews when I left the office.

I saw a guy in the halls with a camera filming him wearing glasses, hence I'm fairly certain it was Josh.

The only other thing I wrote down was there were two blonde women (I just dont remember enough to guess if they were Jen M, Alla or Felisha) walking down the halls with a tall white man (who I think was Mark, but could have been James).[/quote]

Wait a second, Randall, Adam, Josh?, two blond women? tall white man who could be Mark or James?. That's 6 people. If there are only 8 left after episode 7 , there can't be 6 on a team. Somethings a little fishy here?

Magsi2

Oct 21, 2005 @ 12:50 am

Who was invisible in the editing tonight? I'm thinking Rebecca and Mark. Which leads me to think that they coul be 2 of our 4 for next week's firing. The other 2 could be Jen & Markus. That would mean that Excel loses and Alla, Felisha, Brian, Randal, Adam & Clay live to see another day. We also would get to keep JAMES, Marshawn and Josh. This would still allow us to have our 2 blonds (Alla & Felisha) with a guy w/ spikey hair (Brian). After the massive firing, Excel will kidnap back Randal and then Adam will be history after his PM stint on the next task vs James. At that point, everyone left will have been project manager at least 1 time. Then we get to see who will volunteer for round 2.

Peg Amy

Oct 21, 2005 @ 12:55 am

AmberDawn, it is possible that that was the top six the other poster saw. He didn't say anything about them all being on the same team. It could have been both teams. It's the same person who posted about seeing the people from the Apprentice earlier in the summer, so I think it's legit.

cudareef

Oct 21, 2005 @ 12:57 am

For episode 6

Capital Edge: Adam, Alla, Brian, Clay, Felisha, and Randal

Brian is exempt and Adam, Alla, Felisha, and Randal are seen in a future episode. So only Clay is left. He won't be fired next week when four people get fired.

Excel: James, Jennifer M, Josh, Mark, Markus, Marshawn, and Rebecca

Josh cannot be fired because he is seen in a future task. Marshawn cannot be fired because she was seen in a future reward.

So that leaves: James, Jennifer M, Mark, Markus, and Rebecca.

Jennifer M, Markus, and Rebecca are fired because Mark OR James (more likely Mark) is seen on a future task. James doesn't necessarily have to be PM next task. Mark or Josh could be. The PM may or may not be fired, most likely will though. Will Mark or James get fired next task?

Obladi

Oct 21, 2005 @ 1:43 am

Josh, Brian and Adam all wear glasses. Are they sure it had to be Josh?

I noticed that during the promos, when they have Carolyn talking to the teams, Josh is sitting in the same position as Alla (the last person on his row, the closest to Carolyn, 3 behind him, Alla is closest to Bill, 2 beside her, 2 behind her). Alla is probably PM for her team. Does that mean Josh is the PM for Excel? Maybe he keeps Markus as a scapegoat and gets rid of Clay, Brian, and Adam.

In the van we see Alla and Adam.

Then, in another shot, we see James, Mark and Jennifer.

In the sporting goods store, we see Alla talking to Clay. Clay is shown walking briskly with someone, and Alla and Clay don't look happy in their quick scene. Is that misleading or meaningless or do they lose?

If Felisha, Randal, Brian and Alla, plus Adam or Clay are all seen in a later episode, and four people were supposed to be fired next week, then cudareef is right - there is no way this team loses next week.

The only other explanation would be spiky-Alla-Felisha returning for a later task (or that could be Kristi), but if that were the case wouldn't they bring back more than 3? In season two they brought 4 back, the first 4 firings.

cudareef

Oct 21, 2005 @ 1:45 am

Adam was seen in a future task and he wasn't the glasses person. So it is either Josh who is fairly certain to be the guy with the glasses or Brian who wears them less often I believe and is very short, so that would probably make the physical description too if it was him right? Very short guy with glasses instead of guy with glasses?

Obladi

Oct 21, 2005 @ 1:50 am

Is the guy with the spiky hair the guy they said was 5'7''? That could be Clay, and the guy with glasses could be Brian. Is the 5'7'' description not from the event w/the two blondes? Maybe I'm mixing them up. If I'm not, the description sounds like the new Capital Edge team formed next week, aside from the tall white guy.

I'm not sure how Josh would end up on a team with people from Capital Edge (assuming he is not put on Capital Edge in the reshuffle), unless his team went on a winning streak and dumped him. But if his team loses next week, they would have 4 people fired and they be down in numbers vs. Capital Edge for several weeks at least.

cudareef

Oct 21, 2005 @ 1:54 am

On the Dicks Sporting Goods task the guy with glasses was referred to by name, Josh. The 5'7 guy with spikey hair could be Clay except for the fact that he is with Alla so that can't happen, so it is Mark.

cudareef

Oct 21, 2005 @ 1:59 am

The first spoiler of the two short blondes with a guy with spikey hair, that rules out James because I don't think he has spikey hair. This means Mark is the guy with the two blondes. Mark is the guy with the spikey hair. This means James gets fired next episode. James, Jennifer M, Markus, and Rebecca get fired. The only thing strange is that if this is true, which I believe it is, Mark is referred to being the short guy in the Dick's Sporting Goods episode and the tall guy with the blondes in the future episode whatever it is called.

Obladi

Oct 21, 2005 @ 2:00 am

Thank you, cudareef, I thought the 5'7'' part also referred to the man w/the blondes, I guess that isn't the case. I'm wondering how Josh, if he is around later on, would get on a team with Randal, Adam, the blondes. Maybe Josh and James are the only two members of their team left, or they took Randal or Adam, and that leaves Randal or Adam plus Brian and the blondes on the other team, and they're all at XM for the event. It's hard for me to imagine Marshawn being fired before a few of these people, so I wonder if she was there anywhere but not seen. If Marshawn is gone and one or two men (two of Brian-Clay-Josh) are gone, then that would make this episode 9 or 10? I wonder what the departure order is on that. I guess Clay doesn't surprise me that much, with the way he was edited, but Marshawn does.

cudareef

Oct 21, 2005 @ 2:12 am

Episode 7 the teams should start off like this:

Capital Edge: Adam, Alla, Brian, Clay, Felisha, Randal

Excel: Josh, Mark, Marshawn

I don't think I know how the teams will be mixed then. Brian and Clay should be fired in the next two episodes. Leaving the final seven candidates of: Adam, Alla, Felisha, Josh, Mark, Marshawn, and Randal.

cudareef

Oct 21, 2005 @ 2:17 am

Josh is likely the glasses guy, therefore Brian can't be there. Adam, Alla, Felisha, Mark, Marshawn, and Randal are definitely there. The "guy with the glasses" who is thought to be Josh is there. Most likely it is Josh based on what I already said. I think you said James might or was in this later task I'm mentioning. He can't be. He doesn't have spikey hair. As I said it is either Mark or James, since Mark has spikey hair and James does not, it is Mark. This also suggests James is the PM for the Dicks Sporting Goods task as almost for certain only James, Josh, and Mark can be PM for this task as the other members on the team have already been PM. The PM is almost for sure has to be fired on this task. Therefore James is almost for certain the PM. And either Adam or Alla will be PM on the other team.

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