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AmberDawn

Oct 17, 2005 @ 3:12 pm

Another potential spoiler, this time from Jennifer W's Inside Pulse interview:
http://tv.insidepulse.com/articles/43719

MJ: On the cast, who did you like the most, like the least, would fire next and would hire to be your Apprentice?

JW: Toral should be fired. I would hire Randall. I liked several people. Alla and I are both 31, married with children, business owners, we both live in Anthem Country Club she Nevada me Arizona, and we both have a son name Triston. How funny is that? Mark L., Kristi, and I all share southern roots. Josh, Brian, and Chris always kept me laughing. There are several people that I plan to stay in contact with.
[/quote]

Josh and Mark appear on both Melissa's and Jen W.'s friendship lists, as does the already fired Chris. Could this mean Josh and Mark's days are numbered?
Felisha, Adam and James, Clay and Markus don't appear on either woman's friends list. In the case of Clay and Markus, this may be understandable as they are both somewhat obnoxious, but could this be an indicator that Felisha, Adam and James go far in this abbreviated season.

ghettofabman

Oct 17, 2005 @ 3:21 pm

I have a quick question. Does anyone remember when they saw the Donald ask in the boardroom "Were you a stripper?" Which episode did this appear at the end of or did it appear in an NBC commercial preview of the next week?

goobaletta

Oct 17, 2005 @ 3:29 pm

It was in an interview he gave the NY Post and elsewhere. I'll look around, but I'm sure it was in at least two articles I read.

Magsi2

Oct 17, 2005 @ 5:10 pm

I was thinking the comment was in a TVguide article too.

AmberDawn

Oct 17, 2005 @ 5:36 pm

I know I'm grasping at straws here, but something caught my eye in Michael Tarshi's Inside Pulse column.
http://www.insidepulse.com/articles/43724

I had enough of the Apprentice this week. I want to see a fight or something next week. [/quote]

You don't suppose two or more apprenti come to blows and that prompts the mass firing of next week. Which candidates do you think would be most likely to scrap?

Obladi

Oct 17, 2005 @ 6:09 pm

One picture shows Trump talking to James, Josh, Adam and Mark. According to the Dicks Sporting Goods spoiler, the men involved in the task were 6'2", 5'10". 5'9" and 5'7". The 6'2" guy was named as James and the stocky 5'9" guy as Josh. Looking at the picture, Adam looks about an inch taller than Josh, while Mark looks about two inches shorter. Perhaps these are guys that team up with Rebecca, Marshawn and Jennifer while Markus, Todd, Brian and Randall get stuck with the three blonds.[/quote]

Which one is Todd? Do you mean Clay?

At first I thought Clay might PM a task where the women are provocative or strip and then he is fired along with them, but he probably would not be project manager only two weeks after his last go around. Maybe Adam or Mark are PM with the women that week. I think Markus is almost certanly among the mass firees, unless he is fired this week. Clay would be the second choice, since he got negative editing the past two weeks although that could have been a weak attempt to mislead viewers since Excel clearly won both tasks and the 'whacky Markus' story had run out of steam.

I wonder if we are wrong to assume all the blondes leave at one time. Alla and Felicia are annoying but not truly odious, the way Kristi is. Maybe he only fires Kristi, along with Markus and another man. Or Markus is fired this week (but you would think he would be in the preview if this were the case) and Kristi and Clay or Kristi and another man are fired next week.

You don't suppose two or more apprenti come to blows and that prompts the mass firing of next week.[/quote]

If there had been a fistfight I think it would have been put in the previews at the start of the season. No way would Trump pass that up to try to get people to watch.

musichic2000

Oct 17, 2005 @ 7:11 pm

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Magsi2

Oct 17, 2005 @ 8:16 pm

I think the preview photos are when the teams are assembled to be given the next task, prior to the remix of the wannabes.

Obladi

Oct 17, 2005 @ 8:21 pm

Is there any chance Markus would be fired this week and then Josh/Mark would go next week? Trump may want to get rid of some men to even out the women leaving the first three out of four tasks. Is there any way Alla would be smart enough to keep at least one of Jen M-Rebecca-Marshawn or is she stupid enough to keep the least talented people on her team?

Wait, don't answer.

CheekyCricket

Oct 18, 2005 @ 9:56 am

If there had been a fistfight I think it would have been put in the previews at the start of the season. No way would Trump pass that up to try to get people to watch.[/quote]
Yes--remember last season, when previews of the tiff between Alex and Chris made it seem like a major blowout? Also, consider the source of the comment--Michael Tarshi. I have a difficult time taking anything he says seriously.

I wonder if we are wrong to assume all the blondes leave at one time. Alla and Felicia are annoying but not truly odious, the way Kristi is[/quote]
I guess I'm the odd person out here, but I don't find Alla and Felisha particularly annoying. Felisha will need to accomplish something remarkable in order to overcome the screwup with the DQ branding, but Alla has had one success--the Lamborghini commercial. Several team members worked on the commercial, but Marshawn had put her in charge, so she gets a good deal of the credit. And I also think her comments about Toral were dead on, so I wouldn't count her out just yet.

ETA:
The cruise ship fiasco occured around April 16-17th. The ship (the Norwegian Dawn) was scheduled to return to New York (from the Bahamas) around 10AM on the 17th, but the arrival time was moved to 5AM to accomodate a "special event" connected with The Apprentice. Here's one of the many accounts.

The fact that the plans were changed at the last minute created some speculation that the ship would be part of a reward. That makes more sense, since if it was part of a task, it seems the arrangements would have been formalized much sooner.

But, this date is almost two weeks earlier than the date of the Dick's Sporting Goods taping? Does anyone know what episode would have been filming around the 16th-17th?

Well, thanks to an earlier post by AmberDawn, I've answered my own question:

So the time frame would be:

Episode 3: before April 25
Episode 4: April 25-26[/quote]

It would have had to be Episode 1 or, maybe, 2.

CheekyCricket

Oct 18, 2005 @ 11:35 am

Yikes! I apologize for the inadvertent double posting.

AmberDawn

Oct 18, 2005 @ 12:27 pm

I'm starting to think that James and not Josh will be the PM for task 5. We know his team wins, and if he gets an exemption, that would spare him from a multiple firing if his team loses episode 6. Josh, I think would most definitely go down if his team gets involved in a multiple firing.
In an article where Dicks Sporting Goods executive is interviewed:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05291/590236.stm

he mentions:

He also is hopeful the ratings will be picking up now that people have a better sense of who Rebecca and Markus, Josh and Felisha and the other team members are.[/quote]

Could this be a mention of the four that go down in Episode 6. I could certainly envision Rebecca, Markus and Josh going down together, given the prominance they've had in editing thus far. Felisha, however is on a different team and hasn't been that prominant in the edits thus far.

Edit: I just came across this interview with Jennifer Wallin:

http://www.realityshack.com/modules/articl...cle.php?id=1283

Why do you think Rebecca chose to take you and Jennifer M. into the boardroom?
Rebecca seems to think that Jennifer is spacey and lacks the intelligence and common sense to be a key player for the team.
[/quote]

Could a Rebecca/Josh/Jennifer M showdown be in the works for episode 6?

myswandive

Oct 18, 2005 @ 1:53 pm

Also from the interview that AmberDawn posted with Jennifer W...

Who do you think will be the next Apprentice and why?

Randal. He is a class act. Not only is he well educated, but he has proven himself to be a leader in business, community and family. I hope to see him go all the way.[/quote]

Now, I don't know when this interview took place, but presumably it happened right after the airing of the episode in which Jennifer W got fired. Which means she knows who the final two are. Could this be (another) spoiler of Randal making it to the final 2? I guess she could just be saying who she "likes", but it seems dumb that she would say someone that she already knew was out of the running...

CheekyCricket

Oct 18, 2005 @ 2:00 pm

The interview with Dick's Sporting Goods provides some enlightening inside information, including the following:

Dick's proposed a variety of challenges, and the TV producers chose one that required the teams to develop interactive events in the store that could drive sales. The retailer wanted to send the message, "We sell stuff for people to have fun," said Mr. Hennion.[/quote]

The producers chose the task, not the team(s). Wonder if that will be made clear in the episode, or????

However, I'm not sure that the article provides clues about who was fired, because it sounds as the interviewee (Jeff Hennion, Dick's senior vice president for marketing) doesn't know. He remarks that

the staff was encouraged by Mr. Trump's statements that he handpicked this year's group to make sure the quality was stronger than some past seasons. "These were very smart competitors," said Mr. Hennion, who appears on the show along with Edward W. Stack, Dick's chairman and chief executive officer, and William J. Colombo, president and chief operating officer.[/quote]
but we also read that

Dick's staff did not get to see the completed episode or learn who was fired but did leave the weekend shoot feeling good about the chain's acting debut, said Mr. Hennion.[/quote]
Possibly, he found out later, but it's not clear from the article.

BenQuebec

Oct 18, 2005 @ 2:28 pm

Just an observation.

On Oct 15, 2005 @ 06:20 PM, AmberDawn posted the following spoiler:

Watch Out! This may be another spoiler. I found this on another messageboard.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I only saw 3 of the canidates...they walked by really fast, 2 short blonde girls and a guy with short dark hair all spikey in the front.

If this spoiler is correct, then Felicia, Kristi and Brian survive to the final 7 or final 6, possibly even final 5. [/quote]

Notice they did *not* say "a short guy", but rather "a guy with short dark hair." Meaning this may not be Brian, as it's not necessarily "a short guy".

Just saying this for the record, as some folks' comments seem to indicate that it's Brian, although this may not be the case.

RhondaGC

Oct 18, 2005 @ 2:45 pm

I assume this is the "left field" team from the episode description, and the use of "up to par" makes me think the other team sells golfing supplies.[/quote] Somone on another board I read suggested that Kristi would be a logical choice to lead the team that sells the golf supplies since she's a golfing genius, or something. I don't know if it's true or how it fits in with the reshuffle, but it certainly seems that she will play a significant role in that task whether she's PM or not. It, therefore, seems logical to me that if her team loses, she would be the best candidate for firing. How the others will be determined I have no idea. My picks for firing: Kristi and Markus, for obvious reasons. Then I'm guessing Felesha does something else that is less than stelar and goes with them. I'm conflicted on the fourth person, though.

And on that Fantasy Game question about the person who mispronounces the movie name this week: didn't the previews make it pretty clear that it was Jen M who couldn't say the name right? Of course, there may be others because it is a pretty difficult name to say (which is what you want in a movie title. Morons.)

And didn't the FG questions open up the possiblity that the losing PM this week brings back the entire team for firing? A wonder if that's a red herring preparing us for next week's questions. It seems much more likely that that happens in week 6, which is why Trump has more than three people to choose from for firing (assuming he does fire four at a time).

Oscirus

Oct 18, 2005 @ 2:47 pm

Is it not possible to be a screw up on whoever wrote the synaposis. If you writ 6 the wrong way it would look like 10. seperate the bottom part away from the 1.

ie 1o

King Solomon

Oct 18, 2005 @ 2:58 pm

But, this date is almost two weeks earlier than the date of the Dick's Sporting Goods taping? Does anyone know what episode would have been filming around the 16th-17th?

Well, thanks to an earlier post by AmberDawn, I've answered my own question:

So the time frame would be:

Episode 3: before April 25
Episode 4: April 25-26[/quote]

It would have had to be Episode 1 or, maybe, 2. [/quote]

According to the schedule I have drafted, it looks like April 17th arrival of the Cruise Ship in the AM would have been the reward for Episode 1:

401: Bally Total Fitness: April 15-16. Boardroom April 17.
402: Lamborghini: April 18,19. Boardroom April 20.
403: Best Buy for Seniors: April 21, 22. Boardroom April 23.
404: Dairy Queen: April 24, 25. Boardroom April 26.

The dates we got for TA3 were pretty consistently 2 days for the task and the 3rd day for the reward/Boardroom. The only exceptions were the Motel fixup and 1 other (I think there was a missing day between the Macy's and Pontiac tasks).

FYI, the reward for Episode 1 was the lunch with the Donald (with Markus babbling for your dining entertainment). That is a pretty simple replacement for a cancelled reward.

CheekyCricket

Oct 18, 2005 @ 5:05 pm

Thanks for the additional timetime, King Solomon.
That makes sense. The winning team of Episode 1 would have headed out to the ill-fated Norwegian Dawn for their reward on the morning of April 17th, and the losing team would have headed to the boardroom. Geesh, I don't even remember the actual reward for Episode 1, that's how much of an impression it made . . .

Somone on another board I read suggested that Kristi would be a logical choice to lead the team that sells the golf supplies since she's a golfing genius, or something.[/quote]Not a golfing genius, but she is a sales executive for Gold Creek Golf Club in Georgia. Timeline-wise, it's mighty early for her to be the PM again, since, right now, there are 7 candidates (2 women and 5 men) who have not yet served a turn as PM, and by Episode 6, there will theoretically be 5 left. But she *should* have a key supporting role in that task, and so if that's the task, and her team loses, she could surely be on the firing line.

And didn't the FG questions open up the possiblity that the losing PM this week brings back the entire team for firing? A wonder if that's a red herring preparing us for next week's questions. It seems much more likely that that happens in week 6, which is why Trump has more than three people to choose from for firing (assuming he does fire four at a time).[/quote]
I agree--I think the "entire team" option is intentional misdirection. Going back to the spoiler for Episode 6, the observed team had seven (?) members, so a mass firing in Episode 5 doesn't seem likely.

RhondaGC

Oct 18, 2005 @ 5:49 pm

I don't think the 10 is a misprint. We saw this before in S2 when TD fired two at once. We didn't believe it when we first saw it in print (assumed it was a misprint) but sure enough he did fire two at a time. That tends to make me think it is correct. Also the description:

"Take Me Out To The Boardroom"

The candidates go head-to-head in the big business arena of sporting goods. One team spends the task in left field, while the other struggles with a candidate who's not up-to-par. The winners enjoy the thrill of victory and jet out of town, while the losers suffer the agony of defeat in a no-holds-barred boardroom. [/quote]
Now, I normally don't put too much emphasis on the wording of the descriptions because they usually yield nothing of terribly great importance and are often (intentionally?) misleading. But it is interesting that this description deviates from the norm in that it doesn't say "the sixth candidate is fired." It does, however, mention a "no-holds-barred" boardroom. Normally I'd not think that meant anything, but putting all the information we have together, I think it might be significant this time.

The telling thing will be when we find a description of episode 8--if it says "the 11th candidate is fired" then we'll have some hard evidence. Maybe.

AmberDawn

Oct 18, 2005 @ 6:12 pm

Some more NBCUMV preview pictures are up:

http://nbcumv.com/entertainment/program_ph...apprentice.html

One shows Markus and James in white "labcoats" presumeably working on a task. If so, the Markus is the

nice looking guy about 5'10 with brown hair, he was running the machine that shoots out the baseballs (I'll explain later). [/quote]

in the Dick's Sporting goods spoiler. That means because that team has to win task 5 in order for there to be 7 people on it for task 6, Markus does NOT get fired in episode 5,

Note there is also a picture with Markus, Mark and Clay together, with Mark reading something on a paper. This may be before the task and the restructure takes place, though.

ghettofabman

Oct 18, 2005 @ 10:10 pm

Is it possible that the restructure doesn't happen until episode 6? Could it be that another female Apprentice candidate is fired? I think that Kristi could be gone this episode, the restructure and mass firing happens next episode. I still believe that Alla will be the PM this week and could possibly take Jennifer M. and Kristi to the final boardroom and Kristi is given the axe. Alla may try and apologize to Kristi and that may warrant a "Shut up, I don't want to hear it!" from her because she believes Alla betrayed her.

Obladi

Oct 18, 2005 @ 10:34 pm

Would Trump fire three or four people right after they adjust to a new switch? Might not be fair.

Aside from the first season, the switches did not occur until episodes six, seven or eight, so they might have another week until a switchup occurs. Kristi is definitely on borrowed time. Markus could be the mislead edit this week because he says he feels marginalized. Then he is sent to the other team with Mark or Clay or Randall and he is one of the victims of the mass firing.

DannyVegas

Oct 18, 2005 @ 10:38 pm

I've noticed they've changed the format a little this season...they're interviewing George and Carolyn throughout the challange - giving us insight into their perspective on the cast of characters as they function though the task.

I thought George was okay...Carolyn was better! It will be interesting to see how well Rancic does this week filling in for George. The show is missing some of the season 1 dynamics...calling the girls hookers, Troy a "Used Car Salesman", etc...

AmberDawn

Oct 18, 2005 @ 11:56 pm

Is it possible that the restructure doesn't happen until episode 6? [/quote]

I don't think so. Just look at these pictures:

http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm5...icID=1750.topic

Scroll half way down and you'll see a preview of Episode 5 and some photos showing Jennifer M and James together. He appears to be comforting her as she cries.

Obladi

Oct 19, 2005 @ 12:53 am

Just to make a quick list:

Maybe we can assume a few things about the four who are leaving:

At least one or two were almost fired in previous weeks.

At least one or two were spotlighted as being a team irritant or being negative.

At least one or two have not yet had airtime and will probably be shown heavily in episodes 5 and 6.

I think we can rule out Marshawn and Randall. Maybe Brian or James.

The biggest candidates:

Felisha, Clay, Markus, Josh, Adam, Kristi, Alla, Mark, Rebecca

Rebecca and Markus were almost fired. Mark fumbled in episode 2. One of the blondes might go this week but that leaves two who already lost as PM. Clay was shown negatively for two episodes - maybe that was to set him up for firing or maybe to create suspense for the episodes where the men were the clear winners. Josh always complains and is very cocky. Adam is an unknown, so unknown they may not have bothered investing in him.

Depending on the team lineup, I think Adam and a blonde will be fired, along with Mark and maybe Clay or the other blonde. Clay has had a hard edit, not sure if that means he's toast or if he will stay around to have conflicts with people at a later date.

If the other team loses I think Markus (has it been confirmed he is on Josh's team), Josh and Rebecca would be fired. Not sure of the fourth. Maybe Jennifer M.

freelancer

Oct 19, 2005 @ 8:30 am

I just saw them filming the next season (not the one currently airing). They were by the small fountain in Central Park (up the west hill from the main one at 72nd). I was walking the pooch, and a PA asks me to go around the path because they're filming a "documentary." Well, I thought I went around, but clearly I didn't. My dog jumps in the fountain, and about 1 minute later, people are frantically waving us out of the shot. Whoops.

What I caught: there were two teams of five, and all I saw were women until I looked more closely. I think it was six women, four men. The only distinguishing characteristics that I can remember (I was trying to commit the faces to memory when I got flagged out) were that one guy was tall and Middle Eastern looking, and another was shorter w/glasses. The Donald was standing in front of a silver Lamborghini giving his usual speech. And a lot of the girls were wearing colorful scarfs. That's all I got.

I no longer watch the show, but if it airs and you see a black lab indulgently standing in the fountain, along with his owner in the background - c'est moi.

CheekyCricket

Oct 19, 2005 @ 9:57 am

Scroll half way down and you'll see a preview of Episode 5 and some photos showing Jennifer M and James together. He appears to be comforting her as she cries.[/quote]
There's also a picture of Josh in a white lab coat captioned "Late Team." Could this be a reference to the team with the candidate who turns into a space cadet? Who would then be on Josh's team, and thus most likely Markus, as others have speculated. Whereas Josh is the "candidate who skyrockets the teams to success," despite the delays caused by Space Cadet, in which case Josh's team wins and Markus avoids the boardroom for another week.

King Solomon

Oct 19, 2005 @ 11:34 am

There's also a picture of Josh in a white lab coat captioned "Late Team." Could this be a reference to the team with the candidate who turns into a space cadet? Who would then be on Josh's team, and thus most likely Markus, as others have speculated. Whereas Josh is the "candidate who skyrockets the teams to success," despite the delays caused by Space Cadet, in which case Josh's team wins and Markus avoids the boardroom for another week.[/quote]

The NBC promo refers to someone who "transforms into a complete space cadet". By all accounts, Markus appearing as a space cadet would not be considered a transformation. I think it actually refers to Jen M, who has appeared almost flawless up to this point, and we know she just can't pronounce "Zathura".

From the NBC photos, it seems to be that Josh, Markus, James and Mark are on the same team. None of them would appear to have been only 5'7", so I think there is some trouble with the spoiler that keeps getting mentioned.

This would make the teams:
Excel - Jen M, Marshawn, Rebecca, James, Josh, Markus and Mark
Capital Edge - Alla, Felisha, Kristi, Adam, Brian, Clay and Randal

It would make sense that Josh or James and Alla are the PMs. Clay has immunity. We know that Cap Edge loses, so Alla brings 2 other than Clay and Randal to the BR (why not Randal? Because Alla is smart and knows that would be a wasted choice). Would Alla bring a member of the Bloven into the BR? In a heartbeat, because she is a killer. But I have a feeling that she brings Adam and Brian and is toast.

edited because there is just too much info between listings of visual spoilers and the NBC photos.

Obladi

Oct 19, 2005 @ 11:48 am

Isn't Markus the team player who feels marginalized? Or is that supposed to be Rebecca?

CheekyCricket

Oct 19, 2005 @ 12:12 pm

I think you're referring to one of the fantasy-game questions; if so, Rebecca isn't on the list of possibilities, which include Adam, Felisha, Jennifer M., and Markus. You may want to check out the fantasy-game board here.

And I agree that the prospect of Markus becoming a space cadet could not properly be called a "transformation." Though Jennifer seems a bit spacey at times too, and I'm not just saying that because she's a former beauty queen, har! . . .

ghettofabman

Oct 19, 2005 @ 12:17 pm

With the way that the teams are structured, it seems like Trump is probably the one solely responsible for team members being on the teams that they are assigned on. Also, does anyone get the feeling that an altercation between Josh and Markus will come to a head next week in preparation for the mass firing? Josh has been seen in the preview for this week's episode as having a proper meltdown and Markus has been sidelined one too many times to not have said anything.

If Capital Edge loses a team member this week (I am thinking Kristi...due to her constant nagging), then given the spoilers for the future, that means that Excel gets slaughtered in the boardroom next week. Ouch!

ETA: Now that I think about it, the Fantasy Questions for this week are starting to make a bit more sense. Since there seems to be a running theme throughout all of the questions, I now believe that Kristi is going to be given the axe for sure and it will stem from the answer to the first question......Alla is probably going to be the one who says that she is "tired of being around bickering women all the time." Marshawn has been too low-key of a team player to make such a bold statement. Alla will probably turn on Kristi this week and I can't wait!

Coco88

Oct 19, 2005 @ 12:45 pm

From nbcumv.com

TRUMP TAKES CHARGE ON NBC'S "THE APPRENTICE," ALLOWING ONE TEAM TO CHOOSE A CRUCIAL MEMBER OF THE OPPOSING TEAM (OCTOBER 20, 9-10 PM ET/PT)

NEW YORK ? Oct. 19, 2005 ? One team loses a crucial member to the other team, on this week's episode of NBC's "The Apprentice" (October 20, 9-10 pm ET/PT).
After a tense boardroom meeting, the women of Capital Edge vow to mend a team disjointed by bickering and, in a surprise move, Donald Trump allows one team to choose an opposing team member.

The teams are asked to design float prototypes to promote "Zathura," the upcoming science fiction family adventure from Sony Pictures. Actor and "Zathura" director Jon Favreau ("Swingers") and Sony executives judge for task, evaluating which team's float best demonstrates the film's essential plot points and effectively focuses on the importance of brand name recognition.

Both Excel and Capital Edge's project managers deal with troublesome team members during the task, and one candidate makes a costly flub during the presentation to the judges.

The winning team scores some studio time with three-time Grammy award winner Wyclef Jean and the collaboration results in an original rap song.

"EXCEL": Clay, Mark, Josh, Adam, Randal, Markus, James, and Brian

"CAPITAL EDGE": Kristi, Alla, Marshawn, Jennifer M., Jennifer W., Rebecca, Felisha

Edited to add - I bet the women get to choose and they choose Randal. Poor Randal.

CheekyCricket

Oct 19, 2005 @ 1:18 pm

Yep, I think it's Randal, too. But

one candidate makes a costly flub during the presentation to the judges.[/quote]
If this refers to Jennifer's continual mispronunciation of Zathura, then could the women pick James instead of Randal? Only, that doesn't jibe with the NBCUMV preview photo showing James and Markus together. Maybe the "costly flub" doesn't actually lose the task for the team? Or maybe the scenes where James is comforting Jennifer are back in the suite? Aww, back to the drawing board . . .

ETA: If Markus is on the winning team, please, please don't let him rap . . .

King Solomon

Oct 19, 2005 @ 1:21 pm

Now the wheels start turning!!!

Capital Edge, down 6 players to 8, gets to choose one man from Excel to get the teams even at 7. The women choose....Randal (surprise!). Capital Edge loses and PM Alla (conjecture still) brings 2 people into the Boardroom. I am starting to like the premise that she brings in Kristi and someone else (Rebecca or Jen M). Alla proves to out talk Kristi, which is how she begins to impress TD as "hard as nails" and Kristi hits the pavement to join her best friends Toral and Melissa at the Ponderosa.

Of course, how do we get the photo of James and Jen M? Probably back in the Suite after Capital Edge loses and Jen M thinks she may be on the short end of the Donald's cobra strike.)

CheekyCricket

Oct 19, 2005 @ 1:56 pm

Okay, just working out the possibilities some more

At the start of Episode 5, let's say the women chose Randal to move to their team:
Capital Edge: Alla, Felisha, Jennifer, Kristi, Marshawn, Randal, Rebecca
Excel: Adam, Brian, Clay, James, Josh, Mark, Markus

Let's say that Capital Edge loses again, and Kristi is fired.

Beginning of Episode 6:
Capital Edge: Alla, Felisha, Jennifer, Marshawn, Randal, Rebecca
Excel: Adam, Brian, Clay, James, Josh, Mark, Markus

Hmm, assuming that the spoiler we have about Episode 6 is correct, we don't arrive at the team spotted at Dick's Sporting Goods. So, let's say that since Capital Edge has lost again, Trump shakes up the teams again, arriving at a mix something like this

Capital Edge: Adam, Alla, Clay, Felisha, Mark, Randal
Excel: Brian, James, Jennifer, Josh, Marshawn, Markus, Rebecca

I could see four candidates being fired if Excel then loses, less so if Capital Edge loses, since they are already one member short, comparatively speaking. But, then I'm probably being too logical about this, rather than applying Trump reasoning to the situation

mlp

Oct 19, 2005 @ 2:13 pm

I have a feeling that whoever writes the synopses is playing with words again and someone turning into a space cadet will actually be someone in costume on a float rather than what we've assumed.

Coco88

Oct 19, 2005 @ 2:31 pm

I hope that Trump doesn't do to Randal what he did to Pam in season 2. Put Randal in charge of the women's team and if they don't win Trump blames Randal for the team still losing.

Obladi

Oct 19, 2005 @ 2:46 pm

No way would Randal be leaving this soon, not with the editing he has had.

If the new Capital Edge turns out to be Clay-Adam-Alla-Felisha-Mark-Randal, that could fit into three or four of the people I thought would be fired (Felisha-Alla-Adam and Clay or Mark). But the later spoiler w/two blondes would mean four men leave and they stay - does not seem likely to me given the bad track record of the bloven. But Rebecca, Markus and maybe James (who is suddenly getting airtime for no reason) and Josh also fit that profile. I still think that Trump is looking for any opportunity to get rid of Markus, so the next time Markus's team loses then Trump would probably fire him whether or not he was a factor in the loss.

Do we have any more of a clue of who the project manager will be for the men? Since the men always give exemptions (aside from Markus) that guy will be exempt next week. If, as my weak instincts suggest, Josh and James go next week, they can't have an exemption. I know a lot of people think Josh is the PM this time, which he could be, but with all the backbiting he does I think he is waiting as long as he can to be PM because he wants others to take the heat.

Maybe Brian or Adam finally take their turn as project manager this week. We'll see.

AmberDawn

Oct 19, 2005 @ 3:05 pm

in a surprise move, Donald Trump allows one team to choose an opposing team member. [/quote]

This may sound a little bizarre, but what if Trump, instead of having the women chose one member of the men's team, allows the men to chose one member of the women's team. The men, thinking with their penises rather than their brains select Jennifer M. This would agree with the preview photos which show James with Markus, James with Jennifer and Markus with Mark and Clay. The women win the task, the men's PM takes Markus and Jennifer to the boardroom,
Jennifer is sure she'll get the ax, but Markus ends up getting it instead. As he leaves the boardroom, the newly fired Markus tells Jennifer "You were wrong" answering the final Yahoo fantasy game question.

tiggeril

Oct 19, 2005 @ 3:45 pm

The winning team scores some studio time with three-time Grammy award winner Wyclef Jean and the collaboration results in an original rap song. [/quote]
Dude, what? I love me some Wyclef, but Apprentice rap? Just say no!

RainIsBeautiful

Oct 19, 2005 @ 3:55 pm

I hope this means Donald Trump will get in a chicken suit again. :D

pinkmamba

Oct 19, 2005 @ 4:11 pm

"CAPITAL EDGE": Kristi, Alla, Marshawn, Jennifer M., Jennifer W., Rebecca, Felisha
[/quote]

This from NBC as quoted elsewhere here, What's the story with Jennifer W still on the Capital Edge team?! is it a typo or could we see her coming back via some Trump trick: Capital Edge, Chose a fired member to come back. etc.??

CheekyCricket

Oct 19, 2005 @ 4:12 pm

Dude, what? I love me some Wyclef, but Apprentice rap? Just say no! [/quote]
Ever since I read the longer preview, I've had waking mini-nightmares in which Wyclef and Markus are rapping together. No!!!!! Let's hope Markus' team loses, please please please please . . .

I think the inclusion of Jennifer W.'s name is an error. NBCUMV.COM has been having some issues lately: no longer preview and only two pictures posted for last week's episode, etc.
ETA

This may sound a little bizarre, but what if Trump, instead of having the women chose one member of the men's team, allows the men to chose one member of the women's team.[/quote]
Actually, AmberDawn, I thought about that possibility too, but then the teams would be badly imbalanced, five on Capital Edge versus eight on Excel. That would almost certainly doom Capital Edge to another loss. I just can't see it happening for that reason.

tiggeril

Oct 19, 2005 @ 4:32 pm

Ever since I read the longer preview, I've had waking mini-nightmares in which Wyclef and Markus are rapping together. No!!!!! Let's hope Markus' team loses, please please please please . . .[/quote]
But that would mean Kristi rap. We lose either way.

CheekyCricket

Oct 19, 2005 @ 4:42 pm

No no no no no. Not Kristi. More waking nightmares, and maybe some actual nightmares before tomorrow night . . .

ghettofabman

Oct 19, 2005 @ 4:50 pm

Okay, just working out the possibilities some more

Let's say that Capital Edge loses again, and Kristi is fired.

Hmm, assuming that the spoiler we have about Episode 6 is correct, we don't arrive at the team spotted at Dick's Sporting Goods. So, let's say that since Capital Edge has lost again, Trump shakes up the teams again, arriving at a mix something like this

Capital Edge: Adam, Alla, Clay, Felisha, Mark, Randal
Excel: Brian, James, Jennifer, Josh, Marshawn, Markus, Rebecca[/quote]

CheekyCricket, I am definitely agreeing with your logic here. Something tells me that Randal is indeed the "crucial member" of the opposite team. The men will remain intact. However, I honestly believe that Mark will stay on Capital Edge with Josh and James and Brian while Markus, Adam, and Clay will join Randal on Capital Edge. James may very well be the PM for the Dick's task as per DebbieJoan's info.

So teams would look something like this after episode 6's restructure but before the Dick's task [go to the Yahoo! Apprentice site and compare all the candidates in pictures standing next to each other]:

Capital Edge: Alla, Felisha, Randal, Markus, Clay, Adam
Excel: Jennifer M.(tall beautiful (someone said she was a beauty queen) blond haired woman early to mid twentys ),
James (tall (6'2'' I guess) light brown hair, gorgeous guy named James),
Marshawn (slightly shorter black woman, very pretty, didn't see her do much),
Rebecca (third woman looked like early twentys, shorter, brown hair, and she had a broken right leg),
Josh (guy with dirty blond hair and glasses. I believe his name was Josh, he was about 5'9''),
Brian (a very short (5'7" maybe) guy with darker brown hair),
Mark (A nice looking guy about 5'10 with brown hair)

Scroll half way down and you'll see a preview of Episode 5 and some photos showing Jennifer M and James together. He appears to be comforting her as she cries.[/quote]

What if Capital Edge did their presentation first and Jennifer M. got so flustered that she cries? What if James is about to present with Excel, but before he does, he gives Jennifer M. a pep talk for support? I don't think James and Jennifer are on the same team at this point.

Also from a later episode spoiler description:

Well I only saw 3 of the canidates...they walked by really fast, 2 short blonde girls and a guy with short dark hair all spikey in the front.[/quote]

Could this be Felisha, Alla, and Adam?

AmberDawn

Oct 19, 2005 @ 6:51 pm

Actually, AmberDawn, I thought about that possibility too, but then the teams would be badly imbalanced, five on Capital Edge versus eight on Excel. That would almost certainly doom Capital Edge to another loss. I just can't see it happening for that reason.[/quote]

Not necessarily. Consider:

1: Given the poor chemistry on Capital Edge, adding an extra member would likely do nothing to diffuse the tension between the 6 women. Taking a member away, however, might relieve some tension.
2. Trump has taken his share of heat for sending Pam over to Apex in season 2. He might not want to be accused of dooming one of the men's chances by sending him over to a disasterous team.
3. Sometimes smaller teams are more effective. Too many cooks might spoil the broth as far as the men's team is concerned
4. Toral wasn't the reason they lost the last task. Neither was, Melissa, arguably, the reason they lost the first task. By forcing the women to operate short staffed, Trump forces the remaining women to step up and show what they are capable of. If there are any weak links among the women, he'll be able to identify them much more easily on a smaller team where no one can fly under the radar.

Plus, we have the preview photos showing Jen M on the men's team.

Obladi

Oct 19, 2005 @ 6:58 pm

Plus, we have the preview photos showing Jen M on the men's team.[/quote]

Do they ever show her standing with the whole team or working with them?

Trump is so used to his 'you're a total disaster, time to give you a new member to magically make you less worthless' crap, I'd be surprised if he would change his format.

tiggeril

Oct 19, 2005 @ 7:06 pm

4. Toral wasn't the reason they lost the last task. Neither was, Melissa, arguably, the reason they lost the first task. By forcing the women to operate short staffed, Trump forces the remaining women to step up and show what they are capable of. If there are any weak links among the women, he'll be able to identify them much more easily on a smaller team where no one can fly under the radar.
[/quote]
Ack!
Seriously, though. The women aren't going to start winning until they get their heads out of sixth grade. They're too focused on settling scores and collecting scalps and not enough on actually winning the tasks. I hope the team shuffle is coming up soon, because I want to see how the women manage to work with the men. I'm getting sick of coven-ish antics.

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