sereion
Apr 22, 2005 @ 9:15 pm
That is too hilarious!!! Okay, I'm so liking Bren after this!!! He can really sing, too.
Too cute!
spindotdat
Apr 22, 2005 @ 10:15 pm
I think suza271 is right about the schedule.
As for next episode, one team uses Burton Morris; the other uses
Romero Britto. On Britto's home page, you can see him drawing concepts, and the Magna sign is in the background. So Kendra and Craig use Britto; Tana and Alex use Morris. What Britto is drawing looks mega-cool.
Oh, and for the
fourth time this year, a Magna-created product will be used, announced in a commercial during the show (the previous three were the Box, the Brochure, and the Monstrosity - which I actually like, but am in the yoooge minority).
RhondaGC
Apr 23, 2005 @ 9:19 am
Great reference, Rhonda. Gives a whole conceptual image with one word.
Well, I can't quite take credit for it. I'm pretty sure I swiped it from these boards. And I didn't quite know what it meant the first time I saw it either (born 1968, thank you very much!)
the Monstrosity - which I actually like, but am in the yoooge minority).
I actually kinda liked it, too, but I just didn't find it particularly original, since I've seen essentially the same thing on the market for some time now.
RainIsBeautiful
Apr 23, 2005 @ 6:56 pm
Does anybody have any info on how they are going to divide the teams for Apprentice 4
I've read several interviews by Trump lately (so I'm not recalling where this came from)...I seem to recall him suggesting old vs. young or black vs. white, but I think the last set was a joke. (I wonder if TPTB would let that fly.)
Nadias O Face
Apr 24, 2005 @ 5:52 am
I just stumbled across
this Sun Sentinel article (I hope this hasn't been posted before -- I did a quick search; sorry if this is a dupe).
It says that an Apprentice episode will take place on a cruise ship and that they shot that episode on April 21st (so it's fairly safe to assume this will be a early/mid-season A4 ep).
Another interesting tid bit of information is this:
The New York Post, citing a source close to the show, said Norwegian paid Trump's producers a seven-figure sum.
Okay, granted it's the Post and should therefore be taken with a grain of salt. But seven figures? Jeez. This show is already the #2 NBC show if ranked by average advertising income per episode (#5 overall). And I assume those figures do not include product placements.
ETA: And it looks like
Bill will be subbing for George in A4.
Daltrim
Apr 24, 2005 @ 6:26 am
I've read several interviews by Trump lately (so I'm not recalling where this came from)...I seem to recall him suggesting old vs. young or black vs. white, but I think the last set was a joke. (I wonder if TPTB would let that fly.)
'Trump on Stern - Apprentice 4 will have a stripper' Posted Here (page 6/scroll down page)(Apology, not able to direct link) Source
CheekyCricket
Apr 25, 2005 @ 12:07 pm
Yahoo! fantasy game questions have just been posted. Here's most of them:
1. At the beginning of the episode, who will quietly say "Bren is weaker competition. If Bren comes back from the boardroom, that's one less person I have to worry about."
Alex
Craig
Kendra
Tana
2. During the task, which conniving candidate will say "I have kept a little list of Tana's decisions. I won't call them mistakes...unless we're in the boardroom."
Alex
Craig
Kendra
Tana
[Alex's name is missing from the list of answers, but I think this is an error, since Tana's name is included? Hopefully, Yahoo! will spot the mistake.]
3. What will Alex say is an example of something that will "look dumb" if Net Worth returns to the boardroom?
A trip to Staten Island
Meeting too many designers
Taking long breaks
Working in Brooklyn
[I haven't decided that one]
4. During the task, Craig will be caught doing which of the following acts?
Chewing tobacco
Flirting with Carolyn
Giving discounts (I'm not sure why that's so bad, though.)
Telling lies
6. During the reward, which winning candidate will declare "I have two more weeks and two more dog fights. Two people to smoke and then I'm the Apprentice"?
Alex
Craig
Kendra
Tana
7. With the boardroom looming, which candidate will conclude "Basically, Mr. Trump wants to fire me"?
Alex
Craig
Kendra
Tana
9. In the boardroom, which candidate will George say has "no fire"?
Alex
Craig
Kendra
Tana
msrayrudd
Apr 25, 2005 @ 12:20 pm
Interesting questions. I think this week we are going to see the conniving (sp?) sides of the all the remaning Apprentice candidates.
I'd have to agree Tana would make the Bren comment since she referred to him as "a big zero" last week.
Alex would have to be the one keeping track of Tana's decisions since he's on her team. Great strategy by the way Alex. You know you suck so instead of you know, contributing, just write down what Tana does. It won't make you look petty in the boardroom.
I'd have to agree with George saying Alex has "no fire". Maybe like Bren he will be drained by the time he gets there and I definitely can not see Tana lacking fire in front of Trump. If anything, I think she'll be out for Alex's blood in the boardroom which also goes along with something Alex said in the promos about being surprised. I could see Alex going into the boardroom thinking he's going to walk all over the MILF from Iowa and her doing a complete 180 on him.
The only one I'm questioning is the one about the dog fights. It sort of seems like something Craig would say but I can't picture him making a comment about wanting to smoke Tana. I predict this in fact might be Kendra.
parkerjbp
Apr 25, 2005 @ 1:21 pm
As to the question about what Craig gets caught doing, if it were lying, they get caught at that all of the time. If it were flirting, Carolyn is a big girl and must get it a lot. As such, there would be no reason to "get caught" at it. I agree that giving discounts doesn't sound like something you could get caught at. If you do, you do. The one that I see that would be phrased like that would be the tobacco one. Everyone is getting tired, and that (we have seen) is a big deal with TD.
ghettofabman
Apr 25, 2005 @ 1:23 pm
3. What will Alex say is an example of something that will "look dumb" if Net Worth returns to the boardroom?
A trip to Staten Island
Meeting too many designers
Taking long breaks
Working in Brooklyn
It's down to the final four who are challenged to commemorate a staple of American fashion. One team fights like cats and dogs while the other team goes on a wild goose chase for beads.
Pertaining to the third question, I think that Alex will say that something like a trip to Staten Island will look dumb. Notice the second line of the nbcumv.com description of this week's task.
6. During the reward, which
winning candidate will declare "I have two more weeks and two more dog fights. Two people to smoke and then I'm the Apprentice"?
Alex
Craig
KendraTana
The key word of the question is "winning". Something tells me that Kendra knows that by now she has it in the bag, so she will go out on a limb and say something like this.
8. In the boardroom, what will be George's question to the losing candidates that compels Mr. Trump to praise "that's a very good question, actually"? (10 points)
"Are you crazy?"
"Can you speak English?"
"Why are you scared?"
"What did you do 'right'?" We do know that Alex's worthless ass is fired a la
Cooler and
spindotdat.
YourNightmare
Apr 25, 2005 @ 1:30 pm
1. Tana: For same reason as above, because she called him a zero last week.
2. I agree with Alex but I'll kick myself if it was said before the teams split up. It sounds like something Kendra, even Craig would do. Key word is conniving and I don't picture Alex as conniving.
3. From the NBC preview: '...while the other team goes on a wild goose chase for beads.' I'm going to guess the trip.
4. I thought it was 'telling lies' based on the preview. But I can't tell if that's said to the losing team. I'm really unsure about this one since no matter what he did, their team wins and it doesn't matter. This says 'during the task' and Trump brings up lying in the boardroom. Enter headache.
6. I have a hard time believing Kendra said this. I'm thinking Craig based on his past quotes. ETA: Thanks for pointing out 'winning' ghettofabman.
7. Alex
8. What did you do right? This sounds like a Georgeism and would be something Trump would agree with.
9. Alex
Bring back the easy questions!!
Cooler
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:16 pm
I have a parting gift for you all:
Kendra gets Danny, Erin and Michael
Tana gets Kristen, Brian ,and Chris for their final tasks.
Gotta say, behind the scenes I am hearing it is going to be Kendra. She has never been in the boardroom except with a losing team, and the divorce issues are all but over. I am going to the finale and after party with my friend/source, so I will be curious to see if Kendra has her boyfriend with her or not. I also noticed Tana cusses all the time. Donald may cuss, but he CAN. I really don't hear those type of words coming out of Carolyn's mouth.
If anything else interesting comes up again, I will make another post. My friend/source has no idea I am doing this. I try to seem completely uninterested in The Apprentice, and I just ask general questions and get specific answers.
FYI...they just fired the third person in TA4.
coastcat
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:18 pm
2. I agree with Alex but I'll kick myself if it was said before the teams split up. It sounds like something Kendra, even Craig would do. Key word is conniving and I don't picture Alex as conniving.
The question asks who says this
during the task, so I think we can safely answer "Alex" for this one.
The Staten Island trip sounds like the right answer - I can see them going there in search of bargain beads, but then getting lost (and wasting a huge amount of time) trying to find the dealer.
The "dog fight" question sounds more like something Craig would say. Kendra may be buoyed by a winning streak, but Craig would also be feeling pretty darned confident because he's got two PM wins and immunity (unless that's been rescinded for Final Four), plus a certain degree of arrogance. As has been mentioned before, Kendra chooses her words much more carefully than your typical Apprentice, and I think she would avoid saying anything that sounds so arrogant. I don't doubt that Craig would be happy to "smoke" Tana once she's the competition rather than a teammate and ally (nor do I doubt that Tana would be more than happy to smoke Craig next week).
Are the teams just creating new designs with the Beefy-Ts, or are they actually selling them on the street? If they're selling them, then Craig giving discounts could be a bad thing (remember Kevin spontaneously discounting the candy bars last season?), especially if it seems like he's doing so in an effort to lose the task and get Kendra fired. Telling lies? Bah, that's par for the course if you're an Apprentice...
Edit: Thank you,
Cooler! Wow, what crappy personnel for the final two. I think Kendra is (marginally) better off than Tana, and wouldn't be surprised if Tana can't abide the thought of trying to keep Brian and Kristen from killing each other, trying to keep Chris from kneecapping the client, and trying to keep herself from locking all three of them into Craig's fabled Box.
spindotdat
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:21 pm
Oh jeez. Obviously, the final teams were hand-picked to be explosive and to make for good ratings!
CheekyCricket
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:22 pm
Kendra gets Danny, Erin and Michael
Tana gets Kristen, Brian ,and Chris for their final tasks.
I know the preview blurb says that one of the PMs wants to change her team, but is it possible that both of the PMs want to change their team?s Just kidding . . . those have to be the saddest teams ever . . . no Todd, eh?
Oh jeez. Obviously, the final teams were hand-picked to be explosive and to make for good ratings!
Brian and Kristen on the same team. Erin and Michael on the same team. Maybe Kendra will get the video-game championship and Danny will at least be useful there . . . maybe?
RainIsBeautiful
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:22 pm
Kendra gets Danny, Erin and Michael
Tana gets Kristen, Brian ,and Chris for their final tasks.
I don't know which team I'd rather have -- Singy, Pretty, and Lazy or Shouty, More Shouty, and Most Shouty.
Thanks for the season of spoilers,
Cooler! :)
YourNightmare
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:37 pm
Craig would also be feeling pretty darned confident because he's got two PM wins and immunity (unless that's been rescinded for Final Four)...
Yes there isn't anymore immunity. I still agree with you that it sounds like something Craig would say, not Kendra.
Thank you for pointing out #2's wording. That's twice wording has fooled me at first today. It's Monday and it's time to go back to bed.
I still am unsure about giving discounts. Craig's team wins the task. If they won because he gave discounts, then it's a good thing. Although, in retro thought, Kendra is the PM. This might piss her off if she 'caught' him doing it without her approval.
Thank you Cooler for the fantastic spoiler. I think Tana has the worst team and she will have no problem in saying so. Kendra isn’t that negative (except when it comes to Craig).
It will be interesting to see if Chris has learned anything in the week he'll have had to chill out. Brian is lazy as hell and Kristen is a moron.
Erin will at least work while flirting with Trump. Danny will do something besides sing I think (hope). Kendra won't put up with Michael's sexism for one second.
I'd like to take this moment and say a thousand thank yous to NBC, Mark Burnett and Trump for not torturing us with Audrey.
THANKYOU
Cooler
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:39 pm
One more thing I forgot to address: the rumors about the cocaine use were total bullshit. The was never any producer or anyone that walked in on a candidate doing coke. Just an ugly web rumor that went crazy... The only thing I was told is that Todd (yes, married Todd) went totally nuts for the two months he was stuck in NYC at the hotel after he was fired on the third day. I did hear he did crazy stuff like coke and hookers, but I can't confirm that. I am just repeating what I was told, I wasn't there, my friend works behind the scenes, so please don't assassinate my posting.
Sorry, I fixed my earlier posting, I accidentally put Alex when I knew it was Todd.
CheekyCricket
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:42 pm
But Alex isn't married: maybe you mean someone else?
ghettofabman
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:52 pm
Wow!! Tana is really being sabotaged!! Whoo, what a mess of a team she has to put up with. Something tells me that Trump gave both of them the most volatile members of each team to see how they would cope. Kendra has the edge because she has three-fourths of a team excluding worthless Michael.
YourNightmare
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:52 pm
Would have to be Todd.
Can't imagine anyone assassinating your posts Cooler, you've been more than helpful. Thanks for clearing up that ugly rumor.
In thinking about it, the earlier you get fired the closer you probably get to your fellow cast mates. People like Bren, Alex and Craig will hardly get a chance to get to know the others on a more personal level.
Does everyone else get released at the beginning or end of the final task? I wonder how some of them feel when they find out they're not getting brought back. Chris must have been in shock. Erin winked. Michael felt a stronger kindred spirit with Trump. Danny sang. Brian cussed. Audrey wanted to scar herself.
ghettofabman
Apr 25, 2005 @ 2:56 pm
Kristen had on her usual bitchface.
CheekyCricket
Apr 25, 2005 @ 3:16 pm
After seeing the list of returned candidates, I think I understand why one of the PMs has to "soothe the concerns of one of the corporate sponsors." Though if the PM got to switch teams, the concerns would still be there . . .
No sign of preview photos on NBCUMV.COM as yet.
msrayrudd
Apr 25, 2005 @ 3:17 pm
Thanks for the spoilers. Oh geez do those teams suck. I think Kendra actually has a big advantage. Erin is at least moderately competent and I can see Danny working hard.
Kristen and Brian are useless and lazy. Chris might actually do a good job if he tones down the attitude because at least he can be a hard worker. You know it's bad when Chris is the one I'd want working for me the most on that time.
Quiet Gecko
Apr 25, 2005 @ 3:46 pm
Awesome spoilers, Cooler! I think YourNightmare is right, though, in figuring you meant Todd instead of Alex. Alex isn't married, and Angie did say in her Fishbowl interview that Todd went reeeeeeally wacky while in Sequester Hotel.
I had been wondering if Tana would be assigned streets smarts people while Kendra got the book smarts people, just to bring the original theme back. Definitely agree that Kendra has the superior team, and ITA with msrayrudd; Chris will be the best Tana has. (Actually, as long as he doesn't go all psycho, Chris is one of the better Apprenti to have back in general. Even if he did have that streak of consecutive losses, he's an effective worker bee who doesn't try to screw over his PM) As for one of the F2 having to "soothe the concerns of one of the corporate sponsors," as the preview blurb indicated, I could imagine any number of those people being the source of the problem. Tana's group in particular is awfully combative.
myshipp
Apr 25, 2005 @ 3:56 pm
Kendra gets Danny, Erin and Michael
Tana gets Kristen, Brian ,and Chris for their final tasks.
Those are some crappy employees, but I agree that Kendra is better off. From what we've heard, Erin has become pretty good friends with Danny and Michael. I don't think Chris has time to get to be friends with anyone, and Kristin and Brian hate each other. But Tana gets all Street Smarts, and Kendra gets all Book Smarts.
As for the "giving discounts", there was a problem last season with the M-amazing task when Kevin lowered the price without Ivana's permission. I don't know if it is the correct answer in this case, but it might be a reference to that.
beasty
Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:04 pm
Cooler, do you know what task TA4 would have been working on yesterday? I ask because I saw a woman struggling with a huge inflatable cartoon thingy outside my apartment yesterday, while a camera guy sprinted alongside. It had the definite look of a reality show.
CheekyCricket
Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:10 pm
Okay, preview photos are starting to go up on
NBCUMV.COM. Only two so far, one of Kendra and Craig, and one of Craig alone.
polka dots
Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:32 pm
Kendra does seem to get the (slightly) better employees but I bet Erin may still have some hard feelings for her. In the clip episode, Erin felt like Kendra was condescending and then later, during the Fuse task, Kendra dumped Erin from team Magna. So...that might be something Kendra may have to contend with.
coastcat
Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:37 pm
Good point, polka dots. Erin and her BFF Stephanie didn't care much for Kendra, and I can't see Erin working diligently under Kendra's reign. However, we've already seen how Kendra will shoulder all the work if her team lets her down (and you know she'll be on her own again this week!). She'll work well with Danny and will try to neutralize Michael and Erin as necessary (and do their work if necessary). Tana... sure, she's ticked me off recently, but I still feel sorry for her. Chris will do his best, but can she control Brian and neutralize Kristen?
This week's questions are tough... okay, the episode description says that the teams are commemorating the existence of the Beefy-T. It doesn't mention selling, although it's not unreasonable to assume a street-hawking task even this late in the season (the final team task last season was selling overpriced candy bars). However, this season has been much more marketing than pure sales (thus the ass-kicking performances by Kendra), and I'm going to assume that the teams have to impress Hanes executives rather than potential consumers.
So I'm leaning towards Craig being caught doing something that's irrelevant to sales, which would eliminate the discount answer. Kendra certainly wouldn't be surprised if Craig lied to her. I sincerely hope that Craig isn't foolish enough to chew tobacco during the task, as they were all aware of how much Trump harped on that habit as a horrendous sin. And that leaves flirting with Carolyn. Could it be his way of sucking up to a decision-maker - tossing compliments her way, trying to establish himself in her thoughts as a personable guy?
Question #7 asks who says, "Basically, Mr. Trump wants to fire me"? Alex is a logical choice, but I'm starting to think it's Tana. She might have screwed up really, really badly in the task, with Trump mentioning her errors in judgement when he announces the winning team. I think Alex still thinks he's golden, since Trump has passed up a couple good chances to fire his slacker ass, and would go into the BR confident with his little list of Tana's decisions.
YourNightmare
Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:44 pm
I think there’s a benefit for both Kendra and Tana that none of the last 4-5 firees came from their team(s). They’d have no reason to go to Sequesterville and complain about either of them. Kendra would have a little more of the upper hand here since her team has won for the past 9 weeks and it seems only Craig dislikes her. Tana’s been a few more losing teams but still doesn’t seem to have made any enemies herself. If Craig had been fired last week, he definitely would've given the others an earful about how much he can't stand Kendra, which in turn might pose a desire to not work very hard for her. I wonder if he'll get any time to complain about her to Michael, Erin and Danny before the final task starts. Or if they'd even listen. Or understand him for that matter.
Also, I thought I remembered a discussion awhile back about how Danny has a solid friendship with Kendra and people were questioning how, since he was fired so quickly. Am I thinking of the right two? I think those two alone could blow Tana's team away unless Danny is chaotic again. The other two are just gravy or a nuisance. Tana and Chris will do all the work while Kristen and Brian complain. I think that's been the case every season, some who work, most who complain.
Quiet Gecko
Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:47 pm
Question #7 asks who says, "Basically, Mr. Trump wants to fire me"? Alex is a logical choice, but I'm starting to think it's Tana. She might have screwed up really, really badly in the task, with Trump mentioning her errors in judgement when he announces the winning team. I think Alex still thinks he's golden, since Trump has passed up a couple good chances to fire his slacker ass, and would go into the BR confident with his little list of Tana's decisions.
Hmm. I still think it's Alex, because that whole "I'm a risk-taker! I'm hungry for this job!" speech in the boardroom came off so desperate. The whole idea of jotting down all of Tana's decisions to bring up in the BR (which could only be Alex; Kendra & Craig are paired up together) seems to be kinda desperate as well; he knows he can't touch her on her record and that Trump is "disappointed" in him, so he can only say, "B-b-but Tana did
this, and I didn't agree with her!"
Do we know who will be the PM's for this task? I'm assuming it'll be Kendra and Tana, since Craig and Alex both were the PM's last time.
Coco88
Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:53 pm
The spoiler about the returning firees annoys me. I get that Burnett and Trump like conflict but I would rather have the candidates be able to pick from all the firees to see if they're smart enough to pick good ones.
travelerkaty
Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:57 pm
Kendra does seem to get the (slightly) better employees but I bet Erin may still have some hard feelings for her. In the clip episode, Erin felt like Kendra was condescending and then later, during the Fuse task, Kendra dumped Erin from team Magna. So...that might be something Kendra may have to contend with.
You have a point, although Erin, as annoying and superior as she is As A Former Beauty Queen, seems generally like a pink positive sort of gal, who wouldn't go out of her way to sandbag the PM. Erin's trying for some kind of infotainment career, remember, so she'll want to look good on TV.
Danny's also an (overly) upbeat kind of guy, and if Kendra requires that he leave the damned guitar back at the suite, I could see him being very cheerfully helpful, creative and bright. Michael - not so much. He's definitely the worst one.
Poor Tana, meanwhile, gets saddled with three aggressive, petulant losers with wildly inflated opinions of their own gifts. It's sad when Chris looks like the best of the lot.
ETA:The spoiler about the returning firees annoys me. I get that Burnett and Trump like conflict but I would rather have the candidates be able to pick from all the firees to see if they're smart enough to pick good ones.
I agree with this -- and I'd love to see two of the top four candidates (Alex/Craig) deliberately NOT get picked for the final tasks!
spindotdat
Apr 25, 2005 @ 5:47 pm
Cooler, do you know what task TA4 would have been working on yesterday? I ask because I saw a woman struggling with a huge inflatable cartoon thingy outside my apartment yesterday, while a camera guy sprinted alongside. It had the definite look of a reality show.
That's probably a TA4 task,
beasty! Remember the face for when the candidates are announced. My guess is that yesterday was day 1 or 2 of Task 4.
Phenobarbara
Apr 25, 2005 @ 6:08 pm
Poor Tana. What a shitty team. Reminds me of Kwame who got stuck with Assarosa in his final task. Sabatoge.
polka dots
Apr 25, 2005 @ 7:07 pm
You have a point, although Erin, as annoying and superior as she is As A Former Beauty Queen, seems generally like a pink positive sort of gal, who wouldn't go out of her way to sandbag the PM. Erin's trying for some kind of infotainment career, remember, so she'll want to look good on TV.
She may not specifically go out of her way to sandbag Kendra, but she may hold a small grudge for her and resent her which may make her a poor employee. But then again, she may not. Like you said, she may see this as a final opportunity of famewhoring and will try to look good on TV. Let's just hope that the final task doesn't involve crown molding or toilet seats (especially toilet seats for Brian's sake).
2ys4me
Apr 25, 2005 @ 7:15 pm
The spoiler about the returning firees annoys me. I get that Burnett and Trump like conflict but I would rather have the candidates be able to pick from all the firees to see if they're smart enough to pick good ones.
McWordy. If not, then be fair, have the last three of each team's firees be automatically onboard.
No ifs, ands, or butts.
I'm thinking of Angie right now. She deserves a chance to shine more than some of these jerks;but then, TPTB are only going for ratings and fireworks.
Actually, Tana would be unstoppable if this were the case, as I believe Chris and Angie would work their tails off just to show how wrong their firing was re: Alex. Tana could work that line like a spell with little work, and Craig would be the X factor.
For Kendra, it would be more challenging, as I'm not sure the men feel that strongly about her, nor their bond for Booksmarts.
All are type A's to a major degree, the difference is which one(s) can learn to work as a group when needed. The point you raised above is very apt: can the winner see through all the manipulating and learn how to build a constuctive team environment (espcially when some have nothing directly to gain).
CheekyCricket
Apr 25, 2005 @ 7:59 pm
Poor Tana. What a shitty team. Reminds me of Kwame who got stuck with Assarosa in his final task. Sabatoge.
But Kendra has dumbass Michael, the human Black Hole, to contend with. Fortunately, whichever event she gets, there probably won't be any European models to distract him. I actually think that Chris will work hard, as
2ys4me suggests, only perhaps not so smart. If Tana gives him a well-defined task, and doesn't leave too much to his discretionary judgement (ha!), then he may give her some decent support.
If the t-shirts that Alex and Kendra are shown wearing in a couple of the preview photos are "the ones," both designs look kinda "eh."
Okay, looking again at the boardroom photo, in which both teams are present, Alex seems to be wearing the blue t-shirt again. Either this is where the results are announced, or both teams fail . . .
ETA: I've come out of my dream now, and probably the boardroom photo is where the results are announced. I'm guessing that if in fact those are the t-shirts, the results are not judged on the design alone, but on some sort of sales figures, because apart from the color, the shirts don't seem all that different.
Mowgli
Apr 25, 2005 @ 9:10 pm
At least Danny and Erin will probably still try to work just to impress Trump. And, they like each other.
Tana's team, on the other hand, will put ALL of her great people skills to the test. If she can pull out a win (and if anyone can get that group working, I think she can), then she certainly deserves to be the final "apprentice".
I prefer Kendra, but Tana's been handicapped at the outset and my "underdog" sympathies are kicking in. (Plus, I see a good job for her just following Trump around and telling the "little" employees that he has just trashed...intimidated...bullied, "He thinks you're really doing a great job. Thanks!")
YourNightmare
Apr 25, 2005 @ 10:10 pm
In my opinion, Tana hasn’t shown great people skills as a leader. As an employee she seems to know her way around, she knows when to be politically correct, when to shut her mouth and when to kiss ass. She has made it this far based on those skills.
People don't listen to her out of respect when she leads; they listen to her because she has a fair amount of logic or because she smiles sweetly *gag*. This might not make much sense to some, but for me, I'd prefer to respect my boss out of intelligence over what Tana offers. I'm not calling her dumb, but well... She's a makeup saleswoman. She tosses a smile and gets lonely housewives to buy from her to please their husbands. That's not exactly the type of person I can see leading Trump people in real estate or what have you.
I feel for whoever will have to work under either of them. But I'd prefer to work under Kendra if I was an employee. To me it's about having a fair amount of drive and needing a great deal of intelligence leading the way. Kendra is the only person that has shown me that in this batch. Sad.
ETA: I think that Trump was for Street Smarts from the get-go Gymdiva22. That's only my opinion based on many comments in the beginning before the 9 game winning streak from Magna. I think it's disappointing that the Book Smarts will win for marketing skills vs. actual common sense. Once the teams were screwed around with it all went out the door. He had to pick the best candidate and it had to be a woman *tongue in cheek*.
gymdiva22
Apr 25, 2005 @ 10:49 pm
I think that Trump is going to pick Kendra because she has a college degree. Troy had Tana's personality times a thousand and he still didn't get selected.
goobaletta
Apr 26, 2005 @ 3:28 am
Woohoo! I have a TA4 tidbit. You guys in the NY area who follow the Mets will likely run across it any number of places but I found it in
NY Newsday.Trump, Matsui make up
A year ago, Donald Trump singled out Kaz Matsui as the athlete or manager he'd most like to fire. But the real estate mogul and part-time TV star made a point of shaking Matsui's hand yesterday during a visit to Shea Stadium for a filming of "The Apprentice." The two shook hands and spoke briefly, apparently a sign that all has been forgiven. "He just told me good luck with the season," Matsui, who remembered Trump's comments, said through his interpreter. "He said I was looking pretty good right now."
I'm thinking it was for a reward or the beginning of a task. Although, I guess a task result could be happening too. What do you guys think?
Wait, it's mentioned in the NY Post too.YESTERDAY after noon, Doug Mientkiewicz pitched to contestants vying for "The Apprentice," Donald Trump made a Shea cameo and it felt like the kind of attention-grabbing gimmick the Mets have had to resort to in place of an actual major league team the past few years.
Now I'm convinced it was a reward.
gapkid
Apr 26, 2005 @ 8:05 am
Tana’s been a few more losing teams
Actually, Kendra and Tana have exactly the same win-loss record.
Troy had Tana's personality times a thousand and he still didn't get selected.
But Troy lost 3 times as PM whereas Tana has lost 0 times.
Here's how I would rank the 6 people coming back in terms of how productive they could be:
1. Chris
2. Danny
3. Erin
4. Michael
5. Brian
6. Kristen
I'm just glad they didn't bring back Stephanie and Audrey. Would love to see Tara or Angie though.
msrayrudd
Apr 26, 2005 @ 8:37 am
Question: I don't know if this is the right place for this, but it does concern the finale so I think it would go here. They've said it's a one hour show which is good, but is it still in front of a live audience? If it is do the contestant's families normally attend?
I think Tana will be the first final 2 candidate with children and I don't know the ages of her kids, but I was thinking it could be weird for them if they are forced to sit in the audience and watch their mother get berated live on national television. I'm not saying Tana loses necessarily, but knowing Trump's penchant of late for referring to people as losers and a whole lot of other things it could be weird for a kid to see their mom like that.
goobaletta
Apr 26, 2005 @ 9:44 am
It's still in front of a live audience. It's got to be. Cooler's going to the finale with his/her friend, and to the after-party per what he/she posted yesterday.
Also, I'd like to think that TD wouldn't berate Tana in front of her kids. And I doubt her kids would be there. Her husband may attend, but I'd be very surprised if her children did. Now if she has a teenager there might be an exception, but not a little kid.
YourNightmare
Apr 26, 2005 @ 11:00 am
Generally live tapings have an age limit of 13 for the audience. I think most kids around that age or older can handle what Trump may or may not do. They've already been watching the show and know what he's capable of. Worse things happen in the school hallways than what Trump says.
My daughter is 13, thinks Trump is lame and has never commented on the 'loser' sayings. If I were on the show, she'd probably just call him stupid if he called me a loser, then give me a hug and tell me how I should've won. But I could never leave my kid(s) for this long of a period the way these candidates did and have disagreed with it from the start. But that's a different topic altogether.
Back on topic: gapkid, I meant that Tana will have been a part of teams that have been in the boardroom more than Kendra has. But even in clarifying that I realize I'm wrong. They've been on the same team from beginning to end until this week. Then Tana will be in the boardroom for the 3rd time (eventually 4 times) to Kendra's zero. Kendra is the first apprentice to only be in the boardroom once (finale). What a record.
Jaded Cat
Apr 26, 2005 @ 11:12 am
Tana has only been to the boardroom one time, on the Dove task.
IfIKnewThen
Apr 26, 2005 @ 11:27 am
She's a makeup saleswoman. She tosses a smile and gets lonely housewives to buy from her to please their husbands. That's not exactly the type of person I can see leading Trump people in real estate or what have you.
From what I understand, she is high up the Mary Kay chain. This means that she manages the salespeople out there in addition to selling on her own. And I see quite a bit of sales going on in the workplace by people looking for extra income (hence, they report to someone like Tana, whose full-time job is MK). Therefore, MK is not just for lonely housewives.
That said, I've been rooting for a Tana-going-down-in-flames ever since her comments during the Solstice brochure.
Back on topic: gapkid, I meant that Tana will have been a part of teams that have been in the boardroom more than Kendra has. But even in clarifying that I realize I'm wrong. They've been on the same team from beginning to end until this week. Then Tana will be in the boardroom for the 3rd time (eventually 4 times) to Kendra's zero. Kendra is the first apprentice to only be in the boardroom once (finale). What a record.
YourNightmare (makes me think of the end of Mulan when Mushu straps on the firework...but I digress), I think you were right the first time....unless you mean that they were chosen to *return* to the boardroom after. Since both teams went into the Corporate Shuffle (Super-Bowl Shuffle, anyone?) even, they each had an equal win/loss as teams.
Also, Amy didn't lose in A1 until something like the second to last task and was only in the boardroom when there weren't enough people to send anyone back. I think her record is the one to compare to, since she not only wasn't put in the boardroom, but her teams just never lost.
Also, GO KENDRA!
YourNightmare
Apr 26, 2005 @ 11:32 am
Tana has only been to the boardroom one time, on the Dove task.
Yep, you're right. I was looking at Craig's record.
I should go back to bed!
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