CheekyCricket
Apr 6, 2005 @ 4:50 pm
Since it is Craig or Alex (or Bren?) who will get fired I think it will be for the same reason Amy got fired; being fake, boring and only saying what's 'expected'.
I actually envision Alex being fired because of insufficient business experience and a lack of clear direction, as witnessed by his tendency to jump between different jobs/interests--or as one of the interviewers said about Kevin, a feeling that he's "course-correcting" rather than advancing in a definite direction. If Bren ends up in the interviews, he'll going to come across as a shrewd lawyer, but too laid back. If Craig ends up in the interviews, his habit of talking in mystifying circles will do him in. Anyway, that's how I see it.
This is more speculation than spoiler, but I looked at the NBC preview video, and the fantasy-game questions, and think perhaps Chris loses the credit card, then Angie spazzes out worrying about how the loss will look to Trump, and spends too much time trying to retrieve it, whereupon they miss the presentation, or maybe they just barely make it there, but are unprepared and they flub the presentation, i.e, "choke." (I say "they" because when she's in the cab, or car, and says "We're going to miss the presentation," she's apparently talking to someone else.)
coastcat
Apr 6, 2005 @ 8:22 pm
The sneak preview video is up at the Yahoo site - it's Net Worth making plans. Chris interviews that Alex is metrosexual, and we certainly get ample evidence that Alex is interested in the fashion aspect. Meanwhile, NW sets out the duties - Alex is the PM, Angie will handle the presentation, and Chris will handle the money.
In other words, nothing we spoiler thread readers didn't already know!
If Craig ends up in the interviews, his habit of talking in mystifying circles will do him in.
And oh my, how I hope the editors will give us some choice mystifying bits.
Tegan Jovanka
Apr 6, 2005 @ 8:36 pm
Good way to miss the point, Chris. Make yourself even more obnoxious--though, thanks for confirming the answer to the fantasy game question!
A straight man (well, one who yells "I AM NOT A HOMOSEXUAL" at inappropriate moments) probably would say metrosexual means finding the feminine side. That's actually not as bad as what I thought Chris would say.
So why would Alex pick Bren? Just because of their friendship, or because he thinks Bren can help him get rid of Chris?
Are NW supposed to win the last task? I guess Alex's instincts were right.
spindotdat
Apr 7, 2005 @ 12:16 am
Hasn't someone already spoiled Bren getting fired before the final four?
Cooler said that Bren would make it to the final 5, but I don't recall whether he or Alex is fired first. Either he or Alex makes it to the final 4 - can't remember which one.
ghettofabman
Apr 7, 2005 @ 2:15 am
Cooler has indeed confirmed that both Alex and Bren are gonna be fired before the interviews, which will be a three person deal. Bren makes the final five and Alex makes the final four. Bren before Alex. Alex goes, then final interviews.
CheekyCricket
Apr 7, 2005 @ 9:53 am
A straight man (well, one who yells "I AM NOT A HOMOSEXUAL" at inappropriate moments) probably would say metrosexual means finding the feminine side. That's actually not as bad as what I thought Chris would say.
I actually wasn't thinking of that angle, but of Trump's warning that Chris had better "step it up." But, in the Yahoo! video clip, Chris doesn't seem to be picking on Alex, unless he's being subtler than I expect him to be.
Are NW supposed to win the last task? I guess Alex's instincts were right.
I thought Net Worth was supposed to win the last task, too, but maybe not, if the spoilers about Bren going to Net Worth but being fired before Craig are true. However, if there's another task, as
spindotdat indicated, then perhaps that's when Alex is fired. But, only if Net Worth doesn't win again, if I'm figuring it out correctly.
Caltron
Apr 8, 2005 @ 2:01 pm
I am dying for some spoilers on what happens next episode after the firing! Does Chris completely lose it? I would love to see him cuss out Trump. Since he's supposed to be fired, he has nothing to lose.
YourNightmare
Apr 8, 2005 @ 2:42 pm
I'd love to see him cry.again. Sadly though, I think he'll hold it in. His taxi yap should be interesting. I wonder who he'll blame for his demise. I can see him putting in a big gob of chew right then and there too.
American Eagle is having a contest for the finale.
GRAND PRIZE (1): 3 day/2 night trip for two to New York, NY (“NYC”) (dates of 5/18/05-5/20/05) to attend the Season Finale broadcast of The Apprentice television show
This confirms they won't be cutting the show short because of one less person. I'm sticking with it being a final 3 for interviews with only 1 fired.
jrw44
Apr 8, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
Edited because this is not the Ep. 11 thread.
spindotdat
Apr 8, 2005 @ 4:11 pm
I think this confirms a second-half clip show. Right now, there are 6 Apprenti left.
Episode 3-12, task airing 4/14, down to 5.
Episode 3-13, task airing 4/21, down to 4.
Episode 3-14, task airing 4/28, down to 3.
Extra Episode - Clip show - airing 5/5
Episode 3-15, interviews, down to 2, plus the first part of final task, airing 5/12
Episode 3-15, end of final task, plus live finale, airing 5/19.
If not a second clip show, then a week off for something. Maybe an extra-long season finale of Will & Grace or something. Will, Jack, Alex, and Chris ride off into the sunset.
It's clear that the reward next week involves shooting around with New York Knicks basketball players, right? I'm pretty sure I saw Penny Hardaway in the previews. Is he still with the Knicks?
AmberDawn
Apr 8, 2005 @ 6:01 pm
According to the www.nbc.com site, the Pontiac task drives one candidate to tears. I sure hope they're not talking about Chris!
RhondaGC
Apr 8, 2005 @ 10:32 pm
Isn't it next week that Chris is supposed to lose it spectacularly (according to
spindotdat)? The incident after the firing must involve him yelling either at his fellow teammates for selling him out, at Trump for firing him, or at Carolyn and George for not supporting him. While I will certainly have the popcorn handy to see any of those eventualities, I would actually pay good money to see him try to take on George and Carolyn. Heh. That would make the whole rest of this boring season worth it.
According to the www.nbc.com site, the Pontiac task drives one candidate to tears. I sure hope they're not talking about Chris!
My guess: Kendra. She seemed to be very displeased in the preview (I'm assuming with Craig) and she seems like one who might cry if pushed too far. She already whined this week about how she gets cranky when she doesn't eat, or whatever. I'm thinking that might be foreshadowing. The only reason she doesn't get fired is, of course, because her team wins despite her meltdown. That is my prediction, anyway.
spindotdat
Apr 9, 2005 @ 1:01 am
Nah, I thought threatening the employee of one of The Apprentice's sponsors with bodily harm via an aluminum bat was "losing it spectacularly."
Wallyhorse
Apr 9, 2005 @ 3:53 am
I think this confirms a second-half clip show. Right now, there are 6 Apprenti left.
Episode 3-12, task airing 4/14, down to 5.
Episode 3-13, task airing 4/21, down to 4.
Episode 3-14, task airing 4/28, down to 3.
Extra Episode - Clip show - airing 5/5
Episode 3-15, interviews, down to 2, plus the first part of final task, airing 5/12
Episode 3-15, end of final task, plus live finale, airing 5/19.
Interesting, because if they went the route of the first two seasons, the finale would be on May 5.
Personally, I would have done had the finale on Saturday, May 7, pairing it with the Kentucky Derby telecast in the following manner:
The Kentucky Derby airing LIVE on NBC from 7:00-8:45 PM ET/4:00-5:45 PM PT (Derby post 8:05 PM ET/5:05 PM PT)
The Apprentice 3 finale airing LIVE to all time zones immediately following the Derby telecast at 8:45 PM ET/5:45 PM PT (airing in late afternoon-early evening on the west coast), meaning a two-hour, 15 minute finale.
With a Saturday night finale, I would throw in one extra twist:
The winner would also serve as host of the May 7 edition of
Saturday Night Live, which would air early on the west coast in this setup (at 9:30 PM PT, which NBC did in the past when they had the XFL on Saturdays).
This to me would be a ratings bonanza for NBC on a night of the week (Saturday) that normally is a disaster. The Kentucky Derby is one of the few events that can get big ratings on a Saturday in the "May Sweeps", and pairing it with The "Apprentice" Finale I think would boost the ratings of both.
suza271
Apr 9, 2005 @ 2:40 pm
Hi guys,
So, the Yahoo Fantasy Game still has 17 episodes up. Since it looks like the finale will be on the 19th, I'm still going with the 17th episode plan. I don't think there will be a 2nd clip show. Just because---the first clip show wasn't included in the Yahoo Fantasy game.
April 14 Episode 12-GM task--Chris fired, down to 5
April 21 Episode 13- Staples task--Bren fired, down to 4
April 28 Episode 14- Unknown task--Alex fired, down to 3
May 5 Episode 15- Unknown task--Craig fired, down to 2
May 12 Episode 16- Final task part I
May 19 Episode 17- Final task part II
I don't know, it does seem weird, but if Trump isn't going to have a 4 person interview, who's to say he's going to do a 3 person interview? Maybe the Final task part 1 will include interviews for the final 2. Just a guess...
spindotdat
Apr 9, 2005 @ 4:59 pm
Yahoo, or no Yahoo, there's no way the final 3 has a task. The timing doesn't work out. Remember that Episode 10 was filmed November 1-3 (thanks to our spoiler), and the final task is November 17-19 (I just know this). The way I see it, Episode 11 is November 4-6, Episode 12 November 7-9, Episode 13 November 10-12, Episode 14 November 13-15. Episode 15 has to be the interview combined with part I of the final task.
Trumpy
Apr 9, 2005 @ 5:25 pm
Yahoo, or no Yahoo, there's no way the final 3 has a task. The timing doesn't work out. Remember that Episode 10 was filmed November 1-3 (thanks to our spoiler), and the final task is November 17-19 (I just know this). The way I see it, Episode 11 is November 4-6, Episode 12 November 7-9, Episode 13 November 10-12, Episode 14 November 13-15. Episode 15 has to be the interview combined with part I of the final task.
I agree, since the finale was 3 hours last season was way too long and boring, Episode 16 will be the Second part of the final task and Episode 17 will just be a 2 hour Regisfest Finale at NYU (Oh Joy) with the final boardroom and some sort of clip show. I would pay to see Chris bring his aluminum bat to the finale, Omarosa will surely be there :-)
As for the returning candidates in the final task, I think Trump will make it Book Smarts vs Steet Smarts with the following candidates:
Kendra: Michael, Stephanie, Erin
Tana: Tara, John, Audrey
If that was the case, it would be great due to old rivalries and Tana would definently have an advantage from this.
Actually it would be better if the candidates were switched. I would love to see how Tana would handle 3 obnoxious primadonnas with nothing to lose.
trustno1
Apr 11, 2005 @ 6:42 am
I will agree with you about Kendra and Tana being in the final two.
suza271
Apr 11, 2005 @ 10:29 am
Hi all,
Sorry if this doesn't belong on this thread, but Chris was just arrested! Ha! What a crazy.
Here's the link:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...e_chris_shelton
myswandive
Apr 11, 2005 @ 10:44 am
As for the returning candidates in the final task, I think Trump will make it Book Smarts vs Steet Smarts with the following candidates:
Kendra: Michael, Stephanie, Erin
Tana: Tara, John, Audrey
Wait...maybe I missed it, but do we know for sure which candidates will come back to help the Final 2? If memory serves, I thought for the final task, the last X # of candidates to be fired came back - at least on Season 1. If Trump did stick to the Book vs. Street, that would make it...
Kendra: Alex, Bren, Stephanie
Tana: Chris, Angie, Craig
Which actually seems pretty even to me. Each team has 1 suck (Stephanie & Chris) and 2 good members.
Coco88
Apr 11, 2005 @ 11:21 am
Saw this on nbcumv.com
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THE APPRENTICE --(9:00PM-9:59PM) --(TV-PG)
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"No.314"
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"Bedazzled by a Beefy T"
It's down to the final four who are challenged to commemorate a staple of American fashion. One team fights like cats and dogs while the other team goes on a wild goose chase for beads. The winners are treated to a "Top Gun" reward while the losers head to the boardroom where the fifteenth candidate is fired.
____________________________________
I bet Alex chooses Kendra to be on his team but not sure who is the team who fights like cats and dogs. I would guess the team which has Craig but if he's w/ Tana, she doesn't seem the type to get into arguments.
ghettofabman
Apr 11, 2005 @ 12:10 pm
Fantasy Game Questions for the week are up. Here is a taste of how the questions go:
1. Who does Tana consider the "virgin" of the remaining candidates? (10 points)
Alex
Bren
Chris
Craig
Kendra
2. Prior to the task assignment, which candidate will say "I think now is the time to be noticed; it's time to step it up"? (10 points)
Alex
Bren
Chris
Craig
Kendra
Tana
3. During the all-night task, Alex will do which of the following in the office? (10 points)
Curse at a teammate
Fall asleep
Get lost
Get locked in a room
4. During the executive presentation, Chris will do which of the following? (10 points)
Lose his temper
Forget the product
Make up imaginary words
Not say a word
5. Which corporation will win this week's task? (5 points)
Magna Corporation
Net Worth Corporation
Tie, both corporations won.
Neither, both corporations failed.
6. Which candidate will refer to hearing the results of the task as "a personal moment of victory"? (10 points)
Alex
Bren
Chris
Kendra
7. With the boardroom looming, which candidate will say, "Apparently, I got outthought"? (10 points)
Alex
Chris
Craig
Tana
8. During the reward, which candidate will say, "I'm a force to be reckoned with"? (10 points)
Alex
Chris
Kendra
Tana
9. In the boardroom, which candidate will be criticized for poor writing? (10 points)
Alex
Bren
Chris
Kendra
10. Who will be fired this week? (15 points)
Alex
Bren
Chris
Craig
Kendra
Tana
Judging from the questions, I would surmise that we have another Kendra/Chris showdown on our hands. I will try to confirm PMs later.
coastcat
Apr 11, 2005 @ 12:24 pm
One team fights like cats and dogs while the other team goes on a wild goose chase for beads.
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump decides on the pairings amongst the final four.
The possible matchups:
Tana and Kendra vs. Alex and Craig
Tana and Alex vs. Kendra and Craig
Tana and Craig vs. Kendra and Alex
Tana has worked well with everyone, and I just don't see her involved in serious fighting. The editors have made darned certain that we've seen the tension between Kendra and Craig, and I can see Tana and Alex getting lost looking for something. Wasn't Alex driving when he and Stephanie couldn't find their way back to Chelsea Pier?
ETA: Wow, tough questions this week. I think you're right about Alex falling asleep, but it would be much more entertaining if he got locked in.
JanGator
Apr 11, 2005 @ 12:28 pm
1. Who does Tana consider the "virgin" of the remaining candidates? (10 points) Alex
Bren
Chris
Craig
Kendra
My guess here would be Kendra - of all these candidates, she's the only one who hasn't been in a
final boardroom. So she might be speculating about, "If we lose, Kendra's in a tough spot b/c she's the PM and a virgin of the final boardroom" or something like that.
8. During the reward, which candidate will say, "I'm a force to be reckoned with"? (10 points)
Alex
Chris
Kendra
Tana
Got to be Tana. After her "Don't mess with the Mom from Iowa" spiel last week, it sounds exactly like something she'd say.
ghettofabman
Apr 11, 2005 @ 12:33 pm
Didn't Cooler or someone say that the source for our spoilers say that Magna is completely NetWorth and NetWorth is completely Magna?? With that in mind, I am thinking that the matchup will be:
Kendra & Alex vs. Tana & Craig
Remember the alliance that Alex, Kendra and Bren made on the Domino's task. Something tells me that Alex and Kendra will be the ones fighting like "cats and dogs" and Craig and Tana will go on the wild goose chase for beads. I relate the beads to Tana specifically. I also get the looming feeling that we are about to experience a more volatile and vile Alex. Either that, or there is a lovers' quarrel between Craig and Tana.
Coco88
Apr 11, 2005 @ 12:39 pm
So when they're down to five will the winning PM have immunity? Let's say Craig and Alex are a team on the final four task and Craig was the previous PM whose team won. If Craig and Alex's team loses the final 4 task than no boardroom, Alex is automatically fired. That seems weird.
Magsi2
Apr 11, 2005 @ 1:14 pm
So when they're down to five will the winning PM have immunity? Let's say Craig and Alex are a team on the final four task and Craig was the previous PM whose team won. If Craig and Alex's team loses the final 4 task than no boardroom, Alex is automatically fired. That seems weird.
Actually, when they did the AMAZING m&m deal I don't think Sandy got immunity for that after their win. I don't remember who had the immunity from the week before though.
I also agree with the Kendra for the boardroom virgin. I can't imagine it being anything else. Even though all of them but Chris have won as PM, that just doesn't seem to fit.
torianne84
Apr 11, 2005 @ 1:31 pm
Here's my problem with Tana winning: I think it would be too hard to "have the best of both worlds" (professional and mommy) in the Tri-State area. (And I am in NO WAY trying to be condesending to Tana because I think she is a great business professional and probably a great mom. This also applies to Bren or Craig although moree so to Craig because I bet he's pretty involved as a father and I doubt Bren is a very good father and leaves it up to his wife to be a parent. I mean can you imagine? Hey, son I heard this joke today about a cucumber...)
She's very motherly. She loves her kids. Would Tana really want her kids to live in the city? I understand there are some great schools in the city itself but you either have to pay the tuition for private school or you have to live in a great area. Can an Apprentice winner afford the tuition or else housing required to put his/her kids into the good schools of NYC?
I suppose she could live anywhere in the Tri-State area but does she really want to uproot her kids for only a year (maybe longer)? And can her husband find employment in the Tri-State area for only a year?
I think while she'd make a great Apprentice, it may cause family problems and then even if Trump offers her employment for longer than one year, she'll decline because it would be too hard on her family relations. She'll be working late nights, have to commute, and travel for the Donald, I think it would be veto attending piano recitals and soccer games and helping with homework.
Of course, maybe the Trumpster will realize that because Tana would be such an invaluable employee, he'll need to help her with these things like throw in a nanny. His ex-wife, Ivana, that she and Donald decided early that if they were really going to be sucessful in business they were going to need the best nanny for Ivanka. If he chooses a married person, maybe he'll help pay the tuition and get a nanny for the winner.
CheekyCricket
Apr 11, 2005 @ 1:37 pm
NBCUMV.COM has begun posting preview photographs
here. Maybe they're trying to make up for getting the photos up so late last week. Only three so far--two of Kendra, one of Tana, Craig and George--but more should be coming soon. Thanks for posting the preview blurb for episode #314,
Coco88. "Fighting like cats and dogs" versus going on a "wild goose chase" for beads. It doesn't sound too good for either team.
Here's my problem with Tana winning: I think it would be too hard to "have the best of both worlds" (professional and mommy) in the Tri-State area.
She wouldn't necessarily have to work in the NYC area. Bill and Kelly both got a choice between a NYC location and "another" site. Trump probably has a few Midwestern sites. Actually, now that I think of it, weren't both of Bill's options located outside of NYC?
Actually, when they did the AMAZING m&m deal I don't think Sandy got immunity for that after their win. I don't remember who had the immunity from the week before though.
That was Kelly, who really pushed to be the PM on the Pepsi task, since a win guaranteed him a spot in the final four (or so it appeared, although he of course didn't come out and say it). But, if this season is going to have a "final three" rather than a "final four," perhaps there will be immunity for the PM whose team wins when they're down to five candidates.
Magsi2
Apr 11, 2005 @ 2:19 pm
Here's my problem with Tana winning: I think it would be too hard to "have the best of both worlds" (professional and mommy) ...)
I agree that even though Tana has been great dealing with other people, I think it will be Kendra that wins it. Trump can even give her the option to stay in Florida. Doesn't he have a new golf course or something that was just announced recently in the Miami area? She is single, from Florida, more corporate employee-like, and I think she'd fit into the Trump organization better than the rest (at least from what we've seen so far).
Tana's great, but....the rest of them are just not as good as the ladies this season.
coastcat
Apr 11, 2005 @ 2:39 pm
Weird... is anyone else having trouble accessing the Yahoo fantasy game? Every time I click on the Fantasy Game tab or any link to the game (including the one in the reminder Yahoo sent out today), it just takes me back to the main show page. Not that I've made up my mind about most of those questions...
(Chris criticized for poor writing? Wouldn't it be more likely that Alex do the writing, considering his background with some collegiate writing and that vaguely defined lobbying experience?)
Magsi2
Apr 11, 2005 @ 3:02 pm
Weird... is anyone else having trouble accessing the Yahoo fantasy game? Every time I click on the Fantasy Game tab or any link to the game (including the one in the reminder Yahoo sent out today), it just takes me back to the main show page. Not that I've made up my mind about most of those questions...
No problems here with the site. Maybe there are too many people just staring at the screen and not sure what they want to choose for answers. Some of them could be more entertaining than the rest though.
Another option is that too many people are making their choices early and are getting too many bonus points in the game. I ususally miss 1-2 questions and still get 100+ points because I've answered them right away. (There is some humor to be found in being able to get more points than those who actually get all of the questions right but they wait until the last minute...and skip the bonus points.!)
ubercyl
Apr 11, 2005 @ 3:41 pm
I assume Tana and her husband (as well as her children, if they are old enough) would have discussed her winning the Apprentice, and the ramifications it could have on her family, once she made it to the final 18(?).
cdredhead
Apr 11, 2005 @ 3:53 pm
Carolyn does a pretty good job with handling professional and parental responsibilities. Bill's job offers were in Chicago (which he took) and Los Angeles. It's possible Tana would take a job in Chicago. Also, if Tana's kids are older, her husband can take over the primary role for the year she would be away from home. She could commute home to Iowa on a regular basis. Many men do this where I live (in the San Francisco Bay Area) - commute to less expensive "bedroom" communities only on the weekends.
Re: Yahoo! Fantasy...I got a message that the site was experiencing a high volume of traffic. Also, I think that Kendra is the "virgin" in the group because of her lack of experience in the boardroom.
KathyF
Apr 11, 2005 @ 3:54 pm
Here's my problem with Tana winning: I think it would be too hard to "have the best of both worlds" (professional and mommy) in the Tri-State area. (And I am in NO WAY trying to be condesending to Tana because I think she is a great business professional and probably a great mom. This also applies to Bren or Craig although moree so to Craig because I bet he's pretty involved as a father and I doubt Bren is a very good father and leaves it up to his wife to be a parent. I mean can you imagine? Hey, son I heard this joke today about a cucumber...)
She's very motherly. She loves her kids. Would Tana really want her kids to live in the city? I understand there are some great schools in the city itself but you either have to pay the tuition for private school or you have to live in a great area. Can an Apprentice winner afford the tuition or else housing required to put his/her kids into the good schools of NYC?
I suppose she could live anywhere in the Tri-State area but does she really want to uproot her kids for only a year (maybe longer)? And can her husband find employment in the Tri-State area for only a year?
I think while she'd make a great Apprentice, it may cause family problems and then even if Trump offers her employment for longer than one year, she'll decline because it would be too hard on her family relations. She'll be working late nights, have to commute, and travel for the Donald, I think it would be veto attending piano recitals and soccer games and helping with homework.
Of course, maybe the Trumpster will realize that because Tana would be such an invaluable employee, he'll need to help her with these things like throw in a nanny. His ex-wife, Ivana, that she and Donald decided early that if they were really going to be sucessful in business they were going to need the best nanny for Ivanka. So maybe he'll help pay the tuition and get a nanny for the winner.
It seems to me Tana (and all the married contestants) would have considered all this and had a game plan before signing up for the show.
Why is it just the mother that would want to attend piano recitals, soccer games and help with homework? What if Bren or Craig win? If they uproot their families their wives would have to find new jobs and their kids would need new schools. Should Trump help them pay for tuition and a nanny?
Giving the job to the "man" because the "woman" has to take care of the kids harkens back to earlier times when no woman could ever compete with a man for a job because "the man had to support a family".
I hope we are past those days and the candidate gets the job based on performance.
myshipp
Apr 11, 2005 @ 4:08 pm
If Tana gets the job and the family moves, wouldn't her husband have to quit his local newscaster job? Oh, well, I'm sure they'll work it out.
torianne84
Apr 11, 2005 @ 4:13 pm
Why is it just the mother that would want to attend piano recitals, soccer games and help with homework? What if Bren or Craig win? If they uproot their families their wives would have to find new jobs and their kids would need new schools. Should Trump help them pay for tuition and a nanny?
Yes! I didn't mean this would be a problem for Tana because she's a woman. I am in no way saying we're back in the ages that women were the only ones attending to the children or their events, I meant because she's an active parent this might be a problem. I think Craig would also have this same problem. Bren however though, I don't think this would be a problem because I don't think he's an active parent. (See the cucumber reference)
I don't think I was being articulate enough and I'm sorry. My point is I don't think Tana will win (or Craig or Bren) over Kendra because I think Trump knows it's not a good idea to uproot a family.
Seriously, I am so sorry. I wasn't trying to seem 1980s. I genuinely think that's why Kendra would win over Tana.
parkerjbp
Apr 11, 2005 @ 4:44 pm
My point is I don't think Tana will win (or Craig or Bren) over Kendra because I think Trump knows it's not a good idea to uproot a family.
Sorry, but I don't buy that. First, Trump has been more than willing to go through several families of his own. Second, just because hubby is a local news man in Iowa doesn't mean he would not like to get a job in a major market. After all, If Tana is getting enough cash from Trump plus speaking tours and books, he has all the time he needs to land that great network job in New York or Chicago. And they would look at him simply because he is the husband of the Apprentice and there would be celebrity and interest just for that.
goobaletta
Apr 11, 2005 @ 4:49 pm
Very true. And really, a savvy TV station could hire the two as a team to do a morning or lunchtime local news show. Tana's great on TV and if her hubby's already working as a weatherman he's likely halfway competent at least. I think they should market themselves as a duo!
Mowgli
Apr 11, 2005 @ 4:55 pm
My point is I don't think Tana will win (or Craig or Bren) over Kendra because I think Trump knows it's not a good idea to uproot a family.
Seriously, I am so sorry. I wasn't trying to seem 1980s. I genuinely think that's why Kendra would win over Tana.
Yes, but Torianne, that's exactly why that reasoning -would- be like 1980s (or even earlier. I'm thinking of a teacher's strike we had here in the '70s where the men weren't expected to cross the picket line because "they have families to feed").
The point is, employers should base a job offer on the capabilities of the applicant, whether male or female, married or single. It's up to the hiree to work out the problems (if there are any) in their personal life. If they can't, then fire them--just like you would with a single person.
It'd be hard to know where it would stop, if employers try to anticipate personal lifestyle impact on work. After all, -not- having a family could work against an applicant with some employers (e.g. "It'll be too stressful for you because you won't have support at home", ot "the company has a family image and likes married executives", or "You're attractive and single and that would be a problem because you'll be working with a lot of men here" etc. etc).
Personally, I'd be happy to see Trump (and all employers) just look at an employee's abilities and how good they're likely to be in the job they're applying for, period. It's really not up to Trump to second-guess how they will or will not manage their personal life if they're hired.
George Can'tStandYa
Apr 11, 2005 @ 4:56 pm
Sigh.
AlexD
Apr 11, 2005 @ 5:12 pm
I have to respond to the "Bren not being a good parent" comment as well. I know him personally, and for the record, he does have 3 boys, but only two are biologically his. The third son he refers to is actually his nephew. His wife's sister for whatever reason, don't want to harsh on her, was not taking care of him, and he petitioned the courts to be the legal guardian to his own nephew. THAT is the type of parent and person he is. I really hope he wins this competition, and makes all THREE of his boys proud.
torianne84
Apr 11, 2005 @ 5:29 pm
As for my Bren comment I take back what I said. I got typing too quick and inserted the word 'good' instead 'active.' And I think it's awesome that Bren is a foster parent because there aren't enough good ones in the world.
The reason I judged so quickly was because the only reference Bren has made to his children was when he said he needed to discipline Michael like he does when his children get out of line (when Michael jerked off during the Taster's Choice task). Because of past experiences I've had with business men, it seems like the uninvolved fathers are the ones who only discuss their children when they are joking around about disciplining or financing their children's activities like summer camp. And if I had let my logic fully take charge before I fired off that inappropriate "not a good father" quote I should've realized Bren probably has discussed his children and it's been edited and just because I've had really negative experiences with business men and being univolved fathers doesn't mean Bren is one. So, I totally take back what I said about Bren.
However, like someone said earlier...
It'd be hard to know where it would stop, if employers try to anticipate personal lifestyle impact on work.
I've seen so many times on hiring boards where a candiate that was equally qualified was not hired because of "potential family problems." And I see Trump being that type of employer. I'm just hoping because of how many problems he's had maintaining a family, he has an employee assistance program to help out with nannies. And once again, I see this as a problem for Bren, Craig and Tana, the married canidates with children.
goobaletta
Apr 11, 2005 @ 5:51 pm
They've got a few more pix up at NBCUMV now. I'm liking the look of the car they're selling.
One interesting thing - the pix of George with the different teams. In the one where he's looking at Craig/Tana's everyone's all smiles. In the one with Networth they're all serious. Hmmm. . .
Daltrim
Apr 11, 2005 @ 7:53 pm
*LINK* - Articles relating to this weeks taskhttp://www.fast-autos.net/pontiac/solstice3.jpgGM 2006 Pontiac SolsticeSourceHave pity on the dial-up users and just link to big chunky photos. Thanks!
ETA: ah, just saw your next post. :)
HobokenMartha
Apr 11, 2005 @ 8:58 pm
That's a cool thing that Bren did.
Re: relocating Midwestern children to the big bad city, don't necessarily assume that all kids want to grow up in the Midwest--or that NYC can't be fantastic for kids. Expensive, yes. But still: amazing. My parents left NYC the year after I was born, and my sisters and I grew up in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is a great place...for some people, but even as a kid, it felt suffocating to me...and yes, I did end up moving to New York as an adult.
If one of my parents had gotten the opportunity to live and work in NYC for a year, I would have been so thrilled. I would have promised to be good for a decade!
Scherzo
Apr 12, 2005 @ 12:39 am
What a beautiful car...
I could get into so much trouble with that.
And I'm 46.
And female.
Oh my, that would be a mountain of speeding tickets.
ghettofabman
Apr 12, 2005 @ 7:53 am
Cooler, I am interested in knowing one thing. How will the final four be grouped for the "Beefy T" task (Episode 314)? Who will Alex choose to be on Net Worth with him? I am assuming that it is between Tana and Kendra since he knows that he will accomplish nothing with Craig. Or will he choose Craig in an attempt to get him fired? Anybody with reliable spoiler sources, feel free to answer my question.
goobaletta
Apr 12, 2005 @ 10:27 am
The extended show description:
THERE'S CRYING IN THE BOARDROOM AS TRUMP SHOWS SOFTER SIDE DURING FIRST-EVER POST-FIRING SOBFEST ON NBC'S "THE APPRENTICE" (APRIL 14, 9-10PM ET/PT)
Candidates Rev Up Pontiac Creating Promotional Brochure for New Solstice Roadster
Trump, Melania and the Winning Team Shoot Hoops with Isaiah Thomas and The New York Knicks
NEW YORK ? April 12, 2005 ? For the first time in "The Apprentice" history, a candidate breaks down and sobs in the boardroom after an emotional exchange which leads to this week's firing on NBC, April 14, 9-10 p.m. ET/PT. After the firing, Donald Trump feels so bad that he invites the firee to join him on the other side of the boardroom table and a sincere, tear-filled moment ensues.
On this week's task candidates create a promotional brochure for Pontiac's new Solstice Roadster. Armed with top-notch photographers, graphic artists and models, each team must design and print the brochures before presenting their finished product to Pontiac executives. During the task delivery Trump also announces that the winner of this season's "Apprentice" will receive their very own Solstice.
An unlikely hero emerges during the task and blows away the competition with their creativity and dedication. Both teams attempt to pull all-nighters to complete the task but one project manager is left alone by their sleepy colleagues.
An amusing team-building reward at Madison Square Garden features Trump shooting foul shots with the winning team along side Isaiah Thomas and some of The New York Knicks.
Remaining Candidates:
"NET WORTH": Chris, Alex and one candidate from "Magna"
"MAGNA": Kendra, Tana, Bren, Craig
Week 12 Exemption: Tana
"The Solstice evokes a passionate response from just about everyone who sees it," said Mark-Hans Richer, Pontiac marketing director. "It was fun watching 'The Apprentice' candidates get hooked on Solstice, just as we hope the rest of the country soon will."
CheekyCricket
Apr 12, 2005 @ 10:35 am
For the first time in "The Apprentice" history, a candidate breaks down and sobs in the boardroom after an emotional exchange which leads to this week's firing on NBC, April 14, 9-10 p.m. ET/PT. After the firing, Donald Trump feels so bad that he invites the firee to join him on the other side of the boardroom table and a sincere, tear-filled moment ensues.
I'll be sure to have the barf bag ready . . . especially if this is Chris.
An unlikely hero emerges during the task and blows away the competition with their creativity and dedication
Craig? Though, he was the underdog, or "unlikely hero," or whatever, of the Home Depot task, so I'm not sure how many times they can milk that angle . . .
Judging from the questions, I would surmise that we have another Kendra/Chris showdown on our hands. I will try to confirm PMs later.
Thinking more about this . . . and I wouldn't say this earlier in the season, only now, that we're down to the final six, but the fact that there's two solo shots of Kendra and Chris in the NBCUMV preview photos points that way, especially given the overwhelming likelihood that Chris will be PM of Net Worth.
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