RhondaGC
Mar 24, 2005 @ 6:11 pm
I did a little research and in the past the finale has been a three parter as shown above. However, it all aired on the same night.
Well, I suppose that depends on how you count it. Both previous seasons had one episode where the final four were cut down to the final two through the interview process. This took up about the first half hour or so of the show (actually, less than that, I think, in season 2). The rest of that ep was showing the final two beginning working on their final task with other previous candidates being brought back to help.
Then there was a 2 (or 3!) hour finale. It would start with the conclusion of the tasks and then transition to the live portion which in S1 was only like 30 minutes, but in last season's bloated edition was much, much too long.
So, anyway, I suppose you could divide those into three different episodes (Final 4 interviews--elimination to final 2; final two work on task; live portion where winner is selected) but since it hasn't been done that way before, I'm skeptical that they will change the format. Trump and NBC are so full of themselves I'll be shocked if they don't have at least a 2 hour season finale, so they can bill it as the biggest, greatest TV hour of the season, or some such crap. I still am leaning toward the theory that there is another task involved in some way. That would explain how they get 17 weeks if week 15 is a task for the final four, week 16 is the interviews and week 17 is the finale.
The other possibility is that there's a week where no one is fired. But that seems highly unlikely to me.
Cherry Delight
Mar 24, 2005 @ 6:26 pm
'I'm spilling the dirt' should've ben enough for me to know to stop reading. I prefer to have my curiousity appealed to but not downright squashed.
But they don't call 'em "spoilers" for nothing, I guess . . .
This is the spoiler (not speculation) thread so that means spoilers are supposed be posted here. It's been said before, but TWoP guidelines say that if people don't want to know what happens before an episode airs, they shouldn't go in the spoiler thread and then complain when they find out spoiler info.
Here's another spoiler: In the Home Depot episode, we see a little more Alex hate for Stephanie and Erin. After Magna wins the task, the team's reward is to go on a space station simulation trip. So they float around like they're in "Apollo 13."
Alex says in a private interview something like while he and his team were literally floating on air, Net Worth was back on the ground and Stephanie and Erin will have to deal with the reality that one of them will be fired. The contempt in his voice and the way he gloated just showed that he thinks Stephanie and Erin are nothing but bimbos.
Cooler
Mar 24, 2005 @ 6:51 pm
Ok, heres how it went. My best friend and I used to share an apartment in Manhattan before she got married. She works in production for NBC and on The Apprentice, and the other night we got together at TAO at 58th Street, and after too many Taotini's, she gave me the scoop, so here it is...
Erin is fired this week
Stephanie-8 ---now Alex moves to Net Worth
Angie-7--now Bren moves to Net Worth
Chris-6
Bren-5
Alex-4
Craig-3
Tana/Kendra 1/2
She also told me some really funny stuff from the suite that will never be seen on TV, like Erin used to always talk about how much she loves anal sex.
YourNightmare
Mar 24, 2005 @ 6:57 pm
Cherry, hopefully you'll realize I wasn't complaining about your post in any way shape or form. I realize this is the spoiler thread and have been an active participant for over a month now and an avid reader for months. I was pointing out that I should've stopped reading, because it was obvious what was to come.
I only blamed myself, not you one bit. As I stated there are some varying degrees of spoilers and it's my choice how far I wish to go. I think Cheeky felt the same, but I could be wrong.
Back to the subject - I've been groaning about Erin in the final two and I am excited about the possibility of it not being true. Kendra and Tana seem to me the logical choice for the final two. I will continue to read this thread because it's fun and exciting and I'm always impressed with those who do some great research and next time I won't even comment if I feel a spoiler got me!
Cherry, by any chance do you wish to share where you got your knowledge on this espisode? It seems like you've actually seen the entire show vs. received information on it.
Or, curiosity killed the cat.
spindotdat
Mar 24, 2005 @ 7:02 pm
Erin used to always talk about how much she loves anal sex.
Now that's a spoiler worth writing about!
Cooler's list makes me think that there is an extra episode this season, and RhondaGC's logic about being contractually obligated and Verna quitting screwing things up makes total sense. Cooler's list leads us to believe there are 16 episodes, though. I believe Yahoo would put in the wrong amount just to throw everyone off.
I, for one, am shocked Chris makes it that far, considering what I know about the episode where, evidently, Angie gets fired. The Angie-performance spoiler turned out to be true. Heh.
More funny spoiler stuff, Cooler! Does Alex... oh, never mind.
YourNightmare
Mar 24, 2005 @ 7:23 pm
I believe Yahoo would put in the wrong amount just to throw everyone off.
It may also be possible that they didn't know about Verna quitting and they had the 17 week up chart beforehand? Instead of fixing it, they may just leave it blank and never use that 17th week.
I like the idea of a week with no firings but it doesn't seem possible with the spoilers out there so far.
I definitely like the idea of an extra task where the final 4 get rid of someone and the interviews are only 3 candidates. That would be fun to watch.
Isn't there still a possibility of a week going by where TA isn't on at all? Last year, I thought ER ended first, taking up a full 2 hours or am I thinking of another show.
I'm still trying to figure out how on earth Angie gets fired before Chris. I wonder if he ends up thrashing her good in the boardroom. I can imagine the tears and screaming from both of them. But if she goes before him, she must really screw up.
I'm going to predict that Bren/Craig only get fired for being PM on a losing task. They're not spectacular but they don't seem incompetent.
I wonder if having two women in the final two was 'secured' so Trump has no choice but to hire a woman, no matter how poorly they may do on the final task. He couldn't risk having a male/female mix in case the female screwed up. If the interviews go well for all 4 but he fires the men on purpose to secure this, I may just quit watching this show (ya right).
MediaGenius
Mar 24, 2005 @ 7:32 pm
Erin used to always talk about how much she loves anal sex.
Gish...I can't believe that John would EVER talk about Erin like she was a sexual plaything.
Not.
Yet even more evidence for me to believe that John made those comments about Erin and Steph because they were crassly sexual around that suite and on tasks. Now I have zero sympathy for all of them.
YourNightmare
Mar 24, 2005 @ 8:07 pm
I might be confused but are the candidates sequestered still? Do they get released as their firing airs or after everyone has been fired but the final two?
I'm not sure but either way, it appears Kendra forgot to pay for her website. It's been suspended. If she is still sequestered, that could explain it. Or maybe as a possible final two, she decided that
KendraTodd.comwas too boring for The Apprentice and is creating a different one.
goobaletta
Mar 24, 2005 @ 8:16 pm
They're only sequestered until they're finished taping the final task. So in theory they've been out and about for several months and supposedly keeping their mouths shut about what went on.
Wheeeee! Still doing cartwheels down here about Erin. I'm so ridiculously HAPPY!
suza271
Mar 24, 2005 @ 8:45 pm
Wow,
What a great scoop (with the final two being announced and all those firings).
I actually remember all of the past finales--with the interviews, then starting the tasks and all that. But, thanks for the update. I actually was only trying to speculate how on Earth they would strech this thing out for 17 episodes!
I actually remember the Yahoo fantasy game having LESS than 17 episodes at the beginning and one week there was an extra episode or two. I'm not sure whats going on, but it wouldn't surprise me if Trump was trying to strech his popularity out for a couple extra weeks.
happycamper
Mar 24, 2005 @ 8:58 pm
Heh. I'm the biggest proponent of the Erin as Final 2 theory, and I have miss the episode Erin alledgedly gets the boot because of American Idol. Damn you AI! Damn you!
suza271
Mar 24, 2005 @ 9:08 pm
OK, so this is what I've got (sorry, I'm a list maker and just like to keep things together! :))
Episode 9: Home Depot
Winner: Magna
Magna: Craig, Bren, Tana, Alex, Kendra
Networth:Erin, Steph, Angie, Chris
Fired: Erin
Episode 10: Dominos Pizza (Alex moves over to Networth)
Winner: Magna
Magna: Craig, Bren, Tana, Kendra
Networth: Steph, Angie, Chris, Alex
Fired: Stephanie
Episode 11: Dockers Task
Winner: Magna
Magna: Craig, Bren, Tana, Kendra
Networth: Angie, Chris, Alex
Fired: Angie
Episode 12: Unknown (Bren moves to Networth)
Winner: Magna
Magna: Craig, Tana, Kendra
Networth: Chris, Bren, Alex
Fired: Chris
Episode 13: Unknown
Winner: Magna
Magna: Craig, Tana, Kendra
Networth: Bren, Alex
Fired:Bren
Episode 14: Unknown (possibly interviews, extra task??)
Final Four: Alex, Craig, Tana, Kendra
Episode 15/16/17: (possibly interviews, extra task???)
Final Two: Kendra/Tana
I moved Bren over in 12 and Alex over in 10, because thats the only way it made sense. I'm assuming thats what Cooler meant. I'm hoping this will help everyone out as more Spoilers come to light. That way, we can just cut and paste this outline (feel free to make out your own if you like as well) and fill in the blanks.
sadie kate
Mar 24, 2005 @ 9:43 pm
Damn, Cherry Delight. That was an accurate spoiler.
Tegan Jovanka
Mar 24, 2005 @ 10:27 pm
Was it just me or did they have a lot of "Kendra" quotes in that Home Depot ad (for The Box)? They had more quotes from her than the other Magnas combined. Do they know that she's the winner? Was this a hint of her fate?
Was that shot of Alex/Chris in the previews indicative of their joining the same team next week?
I guess Stephanie is curtains next week. They edited her very sympathetically tonight, no ramp-up at all to her firing next week. I wonder why.
What happened to the teaser about a strategic friendship being exposed in the BR? Was that supposed to be Erin and Trump? Or Angie and Stephanie?
spindotdat
Mar 25, 2005 @ 12:57 am
Alex definitely gets sent over to Networth. I taped the end, and paused the preview - Chris and Alex are together.
Bren and Tana were both PMs for the Airstream task. My guess is Tana gets the Dominos task, and sends Alex packing. Despite the efforts of Coworker Barry, Networth loses, and Stephanie is sent packing. My guess is that she is PM, even though Alex did it longer ago than she did (by one episode). That would make Alex the PM during the episode where Angie is fired, and Chris PM during the episode where he is fired. Capiche?
Was I the only one that did not hear a Paris Hilton reference during that episode?
AmberDawn
Mar 25, 2005 @ 2:06 am
After 5 straight weeks of picking Erin to be fiired on the Yahoo Fantasy game, I'm finally right. She was just too chummy with the early firees like Brian, Michael and Danny to have lasted to the final 2. I'm so glad the spoiler about her making the final 2 was wrong.
gastrolyor
Mar 25, 2005 @ 3:19 am
Was I the only one that did not hear a Paris Hilton reference during that episode?
It was very quick and hard to hear -- during the first round of the boardroom, when Angie first began laying the groundwork for her 'Erin checked out' argument, she (or Trump, it's hard to tell, as they were both talking at the same time) made a reference to Paris Hilton, at which point Angie said something close to, 'Paris Hilton would have been more useful than Erin on this task.'
Tegan Jovanka
Mar 25, 2005 @ 3:33 am
Trump brought up Paris Hilton, then Angie responded.
Do we have any idea which episode features the return of the fired candidates? Is that still happening this season?
Pepsi Monster
Mar 25, 2005 @ 3:59 am
1)Tara (Networth)
2)Audrey (Networth)
3)John (Networth)
4)Erin (Networth)
5)Stephanie (Networth)
6)Angie (Networth)
7)Chris (Networth)
8)Bren (going into Networth soon).....Hmmmmm
Houston, we have a problem! There goes that theory of a Magna's 7-tasks winning streak, but instead it's 8? I personally don't buy into it, but rather I have a sneaky suspicious feeling that another planted rumor is about to happen.
My personal feeling is that there will be a 7-tasks winning streak spoke of earlier and that the team of Alex/Bren will win one towards the end before the interviews. The controversial thought was that I don't think Kendra will be in the final. I personally think she will be fired at the final task before the interviews. It would have to be spectacular goof, but it might happen.
The scene of Craig and Tana toasting still makes me think that these two will be in the final as the two "disappointing" finalists. I can't wait for Miss Ali to write the recap of the finale about these two. Although, after tonight these two looks solid enough.
Tegan Jovanka
Mar 25, 2005 @ 4:36 am
If you have Bren/Alex winning the last task, then how would Craig/Tana make the final 2 while Kendra is fired in the interviews? One would have to be fired at final 5.
They seem to be going out of their way to make Kendra look sympathetic after the HD task (admitting she didn't deserve to go on the reward), while Craig had some very strong foreshadowing for a future firing.
Do we know for sure that Craig makes the final 4? I think he probably goes in 5th place. He has that "talented but reckless" edit that Troy and (to a much lesser degree) Ivana had. Alex/Bren beat Magna and PM Craig is fired.
What if Tana and Craig toast because they're the last survivors of Net Worth? If Chris goes at final 6, they would be the last two NW players.
Pepsi Monster
Mar 25, 2005 @ 9:36 am
What if Tana and Craig toast because they're the last survivors of Net Worth? If Chris goes at final 6, they would be the last two NW players.
Craig & Tana is on Magna now. There's no attachment to a team's name for anyone (plus they could care less about Networth at this point). My feeling is that Craig gets immunity and Tana goes into Boardroom vs Kendra. My gut feeling is that Kendra is the Project Manager on that final task and screwed up royally.
Could Kendra be this season's decoy Apprentice to psyche us all? In the first season, Amy looked like a sure winner around half way point and Trump all but seem ready to crown her as everyone is choosing her for their team. Second season is Jen M., who seemed to be never in the boardroom at halfway thru that season.
I would think Kendra would have to be in the final boardroom at least once and that might be disadvantage for her if she's there for the first time when she screw up finally.
RhondaGC
Mar 25, 2005 @ 9:47 am
Episode 10: Dominos Pizza (Alex moves over to Networth)
Winner: Magna
Magna: Craig, Bren, Tana, Kendra
Networth: Steph, Angie, Chris, Alex
Fired: Stephanie
So, all the bluster about Chris "exploding" next week (and I assume this is the episode spindotdat referred to earlier as being spectacular) still doesn't manage to get him fired even though his team loses? That seems odd. But there is the picture that indicates he hangs around until the Dockers task. Stephanie must do something really stupid.
It's also humorous that Magna still wins next week even despite the really crappy customer service that Outside Food reported. Net Worth must really screw up.
when Angie first began laying the groundwork for her 'Erin checked out' argument, she (or Trump, it's hard to tell, as they were both talking at the same time) made a reference to Paris Hilton, at which point Angie said something close to, 'Paris Hilton would have been more useful than Erin on this task.'
I guess I missed it, too, through all the yelling (oh, the yelling!). But I did catch Erin during the Home Deport demonstration saying "that's hot" to some audience members. So I guess I assumed that was the Paris Hilton reference.
harpoonhanna
Mar 25, 2005 @ 10:01 am
Thank you
Cherry Delight, I loved being spoiled and I actually paid more attention so I wouldn't miss a thrilling moment of Erin's demise.
Erin used to always talk about how much she loves anal sex
Ewwwww, now that's outside the box!
spindotdat
Mar 25, 2005 @ 10:19 am
The spectactular Chris explosion I was referring to is not the Domino's episode, of which I know nothing, other than what was posted here. It is from the following episode. Personally, I think TPTB are keeping Chris around because his explosiveness makes for great TV. Chris is this season's Omarosa (although, admittedly, he is far more useful).
suza271
Mar 25, 2005 @ 10:27 am
Pepsi----
As I recall, the poster that spoiled us on the info about the 7 Magna wins said "Magna gets better, then win something like 7 in a row". So, as we were speculating before (when we thought Magna might win LESS than 7), 6 or 8 wins would be close enough to 7 in a row.
I mean, who knows, but the final 4 seems plausable, as do the final two.
Also, couldn't Tana and Craig be toasting to making it to the final four as spoiled? I think thats the most obvious explanation.
Also, I think the whole Chris explosion in the preview is just a decoy for Stephanie being fired. It seems really odd to me that they would let the real firee be so obvious.
S
AmberDawn
Mar 25, 2005 @ 12:06 pm
I just thought of something. Before the last episode aired, some people were convinced that Trump's "wise guy" comment would have to be directed at a man. Well, now it turns out that the "wise guy" was a woman. I guess in Trump's world one doesn't have to be a guy to be a wise guy.
pinhead
Mar 25, 2005 @ 12:41 pm
Erin used to always talk about how much she loves anal sex
Ewwwww, now that's outside the box!
My gut, she is busted.
I just thought of something. Before the last episode aired, some people were convinced that Trump's "wise guy" comment would have to be directed at a man. Well, now it turns out that the "wise guy" was a woman. I guess in Trump's world one doesn't have to be a guy to be a wise guy.
Nor wise.
I would think Kendra would have to be in the final boardroom at least once and that might be disadvantage for her if she's there for the first time when she screw up finally.
True! For the diehards, is there a count for previous seasons on the number of final boardroom trips the most successful candidates had ? I remember Boyfriend Bill practically had his own chair S1, and JenM was rarely there ( thank God, the ringing in my ears has finally subsided).
I suppose an appentice could be chosen who had never been in the final boardroom........so far, who among the leftovers has avoided being in the hot seats?
LadyKenobi
Mar 25, 2005 @ 12:50 pm
Cherry Delight, my thanks to you for posting such a wonderfully detailed spoiler. I was travelling last night and was unable to see the episode, but I was so eager to see SheBangs (tm Blondie) go that I actually delayed boarding a plane so I could call a friend who was watching and check your version against what was actually happening. Once certain details were confirmed, I knew you had to be right and continued with my journey a happier, far more fulfilled human being.
Earlier in the week, I saw that the NBC website had posted a gigantic picture of Erin as the "Home Depot beauty queen" or something, and my heart sank since I figured that they would never so obviously telegraph a firing.
(I left a voice mail about the end of the ep for my friend to check just in case her curiosity got the better of her, the way OB/GYNs give you a note in case you can't make up your mind over wanting to know the sex of your baby, but she waited it out and called me at 9:31 all, "Excellent firing." She thinks I'm Carnac the Magnificent now.)
YourNightmare
Mar 25, 2005 @ 1:27 pm
The scene of Craig and Tana toasting still makes me think that these two will be in the final as the two "disappointing" finalists. I can't wait for Miss Ali to write the recap of the finale about these two. Although, after tonight these two looks solid enough.
I think the scene of them toasting is either of them getting Erin's room next week, making the final four or simply for winning a task. I strongly doubt NBC would give away the final two with an obvious scene such as that.
So, all the bluster about Chris "exploding" next week (and I assume this is the episode spindotdat referred to earlier as being spectacular) still doesn't manage to get him fired even though his team loses? That seems odd. But there is the picture that indicates he hangs around until the Dockers task. Stephanie must do something really stupid.
I have been wondering the same thing since I saw the preview last night. How on earth does he stay and Stephanie get fired? She must do something extremely, extremely and extremely stupid. He is psycho. Psycho like Bates. Can we start calling him Norman? Or Mom? At least for 2 more episodes. I realize they might keep him because he's fun to watch on TV, but that's just so wrong. Anyone else notice the facial features on Chris when he speaks (screams)? He really is pretty damn scary.
I wonder if he'll get brought back for the final tasks. I can only imagine. He would chew because he can't get fired (again) and scream and yell at everyone. It will be great! I wish we knew how they're going to pick the candidates that will get brought back. If they bring back Audrey or Kristen... Well that is just annoying. Bring back a chauvinistic pig before a whiny moron. Please. I beg of you NBC.
CheekyCricket
Mar 25, 2005 @ 1:28 pm
I guess Stephanie is curtains next week. They edited her very sympathetically tonight, no ramp-up at all to her firing next week. I wonder why.
There wasn't a ramp-up to Tara's firing either--in fact, she helped to rescue the Airstream task the week before--so I have to question whether there's always a build-up to a firing, especially at this point of the contest, where we've already had half a season to observe the candidates and figure out who's not likely to make it. And, where the numbers are dwindling and so it's getting harder to conceal errors. Maybe Stephanie's firing seems so inevitable that there's no need to prepare us? Like Chris's eventual firing.
I just thought of something. Before the last episode aired, some people were convinced that Trump's "wise guy" comment would have to be directed at a man. Well, now it turns out that the "wise guy" was a woman. I guess in Trump's world one doesn't have to be a guy to be a wise guy.
Yes, I started off assuming that the wiseguy had to be a guy, but after reading some other posts, I changed my mind. Never assume too much, I guess.
nickijags
Mar 25, 2005 @ 2:11 pm
Did any one notice that after the previews for next week, they showed the "elite eight"? This put Street Smarts vs. Book Smarts again: Kendra, Alex, Bren and Stephanie were on the left side, Tana, Craig, Chris and Angie were on the right.
I think Trump re-structures the teams to go back to his original "test." I don't agree that Alex moves to Networth.
The final eight are on their "rightful" teams.
myswandive
Mar 25, 2005 @ 2:18 pm
I think Trump re-structures the teams to go back to his original "test." I don't agree that Alex moves to Networth.
well,
nickijags, i would love it if you were right. and actually, that would explain how Stephanie could still get fired even if Chris implodes - if Magna loses, Chris wouldn't be eligible. But...if your theory is true, then the angry scene between Chris & Alex doesn't really make sense. I'm sticking with the Alex goes to NW meme unless you have any other convincing evidence. I'd like to believe it, though. The current Net Worth is SOOOO much worse than the current Magna - resetting the teams would balance things out a bit more.
Bekalynn
Mar 25, 2005 @ 2:38 pm
The teams are totally lopsided and its really not fair to Alex if he has to go over to that lopsided team. Chris himself deserves to be fired, because he obviously did a horrible job picking the team mates to get rid off.
myshipp
Mar 25, 2005 @ 2:52 pm
But there is the picture that indicates he hangs around until the Dockers task. Stephanie must do something really stupid.
Maybe the PM doesn't bring Chris to the boardroom
YourNightmare
Mar 25, 2005 @ 3:04 pm
How could Stephanie get fired if Chris explodes? What screw up would force Trump to pick her instead. Possibly his explosion never even makes it to the boardroom. Otherwise, still keeping him for ratings when it's so painfully obvious that he is a liability is just wrong. Especially when there's a hint of violence.
What I'd really love to know, is how does Trump handle Magna spelling their name wrong on the fliers and who did it? I realize the printer did it, but who picked them up and didn't check it! Can't wait to find out. I imagine the episode description will hint at it if it really happened.
Married candidates lovefest discovered. Psycho threatens to spit on everyone. Attorney incapable of spelling 5 letter words. Head honcho depressed over last firing. It's a dream come true for TWoPers on the next Apprentice!
SeaBreeze341
Mar 25, 2005 @ 3:11 pm
How could Stephanie get fired if Chris explodes?
My only guess is that Chris defended himself in his blow-ups well enough to survive, and that Stephanie pulls an Erin. I'm just dying to see the episode where Chris gets booted, and his reactions in the boardroom prior to that!
I guess as the weeks come and go, the spoilers will become more accurate or moot. It's kind of difficult to believe anything, but I kind of do, considering how TA is an anything can happen show. For example, I never thought that John would become a disappointment. Also, given how Craig could be the 16th candidate fired (rather 15th, with Verna quitting and all), I'm not sure if I believe that. It would be nice to see a F/F final two (and Kendra/Tana would be perfect for that position, although Tara would have been better had she not screwed up earlier), but IMO, personally, if Craig and Alex are the ones to go, I would think that Craig would go first and not Alex, or it wouldn't look good.
Thanks to last night, I do see Craig making it into the final four and definitely not being the 14th candidate let-go. The last candidate fired before the Interviews is like ending up in 4th place on TAR, and that's so wrong. Hopefully Craig will learn to express his ideas out to the public, or else he won't win. But I can totally see him making it into the Top 4. After all, he won as PM, and no final four candidate has ever been a final four candidate without ever winning at least once as PM. As a result, if he's up against Bren and/or Chris in the final 5-6, and either two fail to win as PM, he'll be safe.
ETA more thoughts
AmberDawn
Mar 25, 2005 @ 3:58 pm
As Angie was PM the previous week and Chris wasv the previous week, Stephanie will likely be the Networth PM for the Pizza task. If they bring back the first four candidates for the Pizza episode, then Magna could get Todd and Brian while Networth gets Danny and Kristen. If Alex goes over to Networth, Stephanie could be stuck with a nightmare team, where Chris fights with Alex, Angie with Kristen and Danny tries to settle old scores with her.
myshipp
Mar 25, 2005 @ 4:11 pm
How could Stephanie get fired if Chris explodes?
Isn't this the week that a "strategic friendship comes to light"? Maybe Angie and Chris band together and get rid of Stephanie. I can't think of anyone else on that team that could be considered friends. It would make more sense as a headline, though, if Chris was PM and brought Angie into the boardroom specifically to help weed Stephanie out.
King Solomon
Mar 25, 2005 @ 4:15 pm
From the Apprentice Blog:
The seven remaining candidates marry technology with fashion by designing
high tech clothing lines. One candidate loses the team's seed money while another candidate simply loses their mind as they race against the clock to put together a fashionable presentation. The boardroom awaits the losers while the winners enjoy a luxury shopping spree.
So there you have it. In Episode 11, Chris implodes yet again, but Angie pulls a Trump No-No and loses the money which is why she hits the pavement. Maybe she was too close to "Audrey the Accountant".
Still not sure what Stephanie does to "take it in the neck" in Episode 10 after a well promoted Chris-plosion, but there is a pattern developing. Oh, that Mark Burnett knows entertaining TV when he sees it.
Maybe in Episode 12, Chris is fired because he stabs everyone else in the boardroom. The extra episode or 2 is actually a cross-over between the Apprentice and ER.
Calreusop
Mar 25, 2005 @ 4:31 pm
Someone has already mentioned the "Elite Eight" tournament tree in this week's preview, but if you look closely at it, it may spoil a lot of things. The two original teams are on opposite sides of the brackets, but also, it would seem to indicate that one out of each pair of two is going to the final four. (Magna: Bren/Stephanie, Alex/Kendra. NW: Angie/Craig, Tana/Chris). It also seems to indicate that the final two consists of one member of each original team (going along with a previous spoiler). If NBC didn't stick this in there to throw us all off the track, this is a very good source of info. If all this is true: Tana is probably in the F4 (not Chris), Bren is probably in the F4 (not Steph). If we go along with the two females theory, and they have to be on opposite teams, Kendra is in the F4, not Alex. Angie and Craig are a toss-up for the F4, but Craig probably makes it. This puts the final 2 at: Bren/Kendra vs. Tana/Craig. With the two females, this makes Kendra vs. Tana. I'm interested to see what everyone else thinks of this spoiler handed to us in the previews.
YourNightmare
Mar 25, 2005 @ 5:04 pm
Two Chris explosion episodes? How fun!!
Why would anyone be coming back for the Pizza episode? No one comes back until the final task I thought. Is there a spoiler out there for people coming back before then?
I think the last few suggestions may be correct. Stephanie will get fired next week because Angie and Chris will gang up on her. That sucks. Hard core. I don't like her, but that's just not right. He is so psycho! I don’t even think editing is playing it up. He just is. I love that Angie is able to use him so easily. He might be psycho and scary but he's possibly nothing more than an easily manipulated pussy who cries. All I ask, please, let him cry when he gets fired. Please. I will Tivo the moment for at least a month. I wish I had Tivod the last time he cried. It was classic.
Did anyone else hear Trump call Chris insignificant last night? It was really hard to hear, but he does say it. I wish the cameras had let us see how Chris reacted. Damn Erin for stealing the scene with her poignant babbling.
On the final task, anyone heard or have any ideas how they’ll choose who comes back. I seriously hope it's not Audrey, Kristen or Chris. I can handle anyone else, even Erin.
As far as next weeks task goes, here are the ways the spoiler could happen:
Outside Foods said it was 1 blonde and 3 (white) men. There isn’t any logical team switching that could make that possible. So if true, I can only guess either Dominoes employees help out, it’s some of the camera crew or it’s true that old candidates come back to help.
If I assume that part of the spoiler isn’t completely correct, Chris or Alex is PM and Angie and Stephanie are the other 2. Chris was mistaken for John. Chris obviously has a future career in pizza delivery because he whips out the pizzas (with tobacco splooge topping) at an alarming rate while cussing every 5 seconds, escapes being fired for yet another week and Stephanie is responsible for the idea ‘Manga’. which is why she is fired.
I'd describe one or two of the guys I saw later as on the chubbier side, all youngish, no blue bowties.
Seems more like he’s describing Chris and Alex than Bren and Craig here.
Coworker Barry confirms that it was definitely Tana in the Domino's truck flustering over the missing pizza. He also saw the black guy with short dreds handing out flyers, and viking-horns guy in the truck.
Seems to be talking about Magna here, so who is the Viking horns guy really?
If the team he was talking about was Magma, then Bren is PM, they actually did spell Magma wrong and yet they won and Stephanie is fired for some reason or another while Chris and Alex go at it in the suite before the boardroom. Chris doesn’t bring Alex in for fear of getting ganged up on. He brings in Angie and Stephanie and he and Angie go after her. He escapes yet another freakfest of boardroom antics all for our pleasure of yet another fun filled week to come.
I’m leaning towards most of the spoiler being accurate but I’m very curious who the Viking hat person is and why on earth the team spelled Magma wrong. Morons! I think it was Magma Mr. Barry encountered and they sound incompetent. College kids who can't make a pizza? Go figure. Should be good for some shits and giggles. But really, aren’t we all just watching it for Chris at this point?
ETA:
spindotdat, I knew they meant Brian, I just don't think it
is Brian. I meant who could they have mistaken him for? The logical choice to me is Chris but it seems likely they were dealing with Magma so how could it be him?
I don't think old candidates are coming back now. There's too many tasks left before final two.
spindotdat
Mar 25, 2005 @ 5:14 pm
The Viking-hat person is Brian! So they must bring back old Apprenti. But one never knows what tricks memory might play.
Tegan Jovanka
Mar 25, 2005 @ 6:01 pm
Craig & Tana is on Magna now. There's no attachment to a team's name for anyone (plus they could care less about Networth at this point). My feeling is that Craig gets immunity and Tana goes into Boardroom vs Kendra. My gut feeling is that Kendra is the Project Manager on that final task and screwed up royally.
I think there would be an attachment. They were with NW for 7 tasks and had some bonds with some of the players on that team. At one point NW was riding high and Magna was a joke. If by the time of the toast they're the only two people left from oriignal NW, I can see why they would toast over it. Either that or they come back from the BR having just beaten Kendra or Bren. Probably Bren.
I don't think they would have Kendra mute for the first half of the season if she was going to be the decoy Apprentice. She's come across as very smart and competent, as well as humble, while Craig is presented as being difficult and Bren/Alex mainly just bitch or snicker. It wouldn't be a very interesting final 4 for viewers if Tana was the only one of the four that viewers could take seriously. I think Bren or Craig have to go at final 5, since Alex is the type of whitebread male Trump usually puts in the final 4/3/2.
Stephanie has had a target on her back for weeks now. The Chris material seems somewhat overhyped, so I can picture him not even being in the BR, or being relatively together in the BR, while Stephanie is completely unable to defend her poor choices as PM (assuming she's PM). She has done more damage to her own chances than Chris and Angie ever could. Trump has been waiting for the chance to fire her.
The teams are totally lopsided and its really not fair to Alex if he has to go over to that lopsided team.
He's been riding Magna's coattails for most of the game (aside from the week he was PM), so I think it's fair. Now we get to see him put up or shut up. Perhaps this is where we will see him begin to get the positive editing you usually get if you make the final 4. Either that or he sinks and goes at final 5.
Magsi2
Mar 25, 2005 @ 6:20 pm
I guess we can know now that the "soon to be fired female" speaking in Florida must be Erin. We can now see that maybe John wasn't so far off with his "fluffer" remark, but it might be interesting to see them speak to a group together. I don't remember where that was listed upthread.
Is anyone going to be at that seminar (was it a management seminar?).
If it wasn't Erin, then perhaps Angie. I don't think Stephanie had any Florida ties.
RhondaGC
Mar 25, 2005 @ 7:35 pm
Why would anyone be coming back for the Pizza episode? No one comes back until the final task I thought. Is there a spoiler out there for people coming back before then?
I think that was an assumption made based on Outside Food's spoiler which seemed to indicate that either John or Brian were around for that task. I'm not sure that we have any outside confirmation that candidates are coming back. Or am I mistaken?
Re: Kendra
She's come across as very smart and competent, as well as humble
Yeah. But I couldn't help but wonder last night whether 1) her comments about not respecting Craig appropriately and so forth were taped sometime after she makes the final two (I'm assuming she does) to prop her up ahead of her making the final; or 2) if she really is that self-aware and willing to admit mistakes (a rarity among the contestants on this show); 3) or if it was all an act on her part to make herself look better. Probably one of the latter two is most likely, but I wouldn't put much of anything past Trump and these producers. That said, they didn't seem to go out of their way to rehabilitate Jen M last season, so maybe I'm just looking for conspiracy.
But there is the picture that indicates he hangs around until the Dockers task. Stephanie must do something really stupid.
Maybe the PM doesn't bring Chris to the boardroom
Now that's an interesting theory. Here goes: Stephanie is PM. They lose and since she she knows about the close friendship between Anige and Chris and realizes that they would probably gang up on her in the BR. So she decides to bring only one of them with her. Which means Bren/Alex (whoever their fourth member is) goes by default. She ultimately chooses to take Angie instead of Chris, maybe because she is afraid Chris will pull a nutty in the BR. Although one would think she would realize that this could benefit her by making him more susceptible to firing, but I don't give Stephanie credit for being able to think that deeply. And that's how it goes down; Stephanie is fired because Angie is clearly more competent and Bren/Alex is there as a decoy, which Trump probably realizes.
In fact, it is possible that this is where the "friendship is revealed in the BR." Bren/Alex points out to Trump that he is only there because Stephanie was afraid that Chris and Angie would join together to gang up on her. Wow, the more I go with this theory the more I like it!
Edited to make it make sense. Sorry, my brain was fried when I wrote the original!
YourNightmare
Mar 25, 2005 @ 7:56 pm
Interesting theory RhondaGC. I was assuming males for the PMs next week due to being unsure which team Outside Food saw (one PM is definitely a white male). It is very possible that Chris isn't PM, and the more I think about it, nothing in the preview suggested any PMs did it? I imagine the pictures to be up soon will tell more. But if I were Stephanie, I'd bring in Chris not Angie, not the other way around. Although as I suggested Chris might just be a great psychotic pizza man and work just hard enough without dribbling tobacco splooge on the pepperoni that he may get saved.
The more I think about it, the more nothing makes sense to me!
Edited because sometimes I try to dumb myself down like the Apprenti. Only happens once in awhile, then I remember I have a brain. (Thank you Tegan)
Tegan Jovanka
Mar 25, 2005 @ 8:07 pm
Angie isn't exempt. She lost. Only Craig is exempt.
I can see Chris outlasting Stephanie. She's never really recovered from the drubbing Bren gave her in episode 5. Chris didn't want her on NW. She wasn't a stellar PM, even though she won. If she is PM again and she really screws up, then she would probably go. Chris is competent in the BR and if he manages to not chew on this task then he could get through again.
goobaletta
Mar 26, 2005 @ 7:29 pm
From NBCUMV:"No.312"
"A Lonely Drive"
With six candidates left, the teams are challenged to create a promotional
brochure for a limited edition automobile. The task goes all night and both project managers have different experiences with their teammates as the task continues into the early morning hours.
ghettofabman
Mar 26, 2005 @ 7:54 pm
Hey guys, I am set to believe cooler on the spoilers. I think I may have a breakdown as to how the next episode goes:
Something tells me that we are looking at a Tana/Stephanie PM showdown. Before the task is assigned to the teams, Trump tells Magna PM Tana to send one person over to NetWorth to even out the teams once again. Tana selects Alex to go over to the other team. (OK, you know what? If Brian comes back to this game, something tells me that we have a DOUBLE FIRING on our hands with the victims being he and Stephanie.) Magna fairs a bit poorly as far as the task is concerned, but they manage to hold it together more than NetWorth. Alex, being his condescending little bitchy self, does an ANTM 4 Tatiana and talks shit on the low about Chris who in turn does an ANTM 4 Brandy explosion on his ass. Magna wins. NetWorth goes to the boardroom. Angie is safe because she pulled her weight. She is the one who goes back to the suite, a la Stephanie. Chris and Alex are brought back. Stephanie was a horrible PM (says Trump) who couldn't control her team, so she gets the axe.
boilergal
Mar 26, 2005 @ 8:06 pm
Stephanie was a horrible PM (says Trump) who couldn't control her team, so she gets the axe.
Although I'd much rather see some spectacular stupidity from Stephanie (a la Erin), I think
ghettofabman is exactly right about this - Trumpster will pull the old "why didn't you control him?" in the face of Chris' craziness, & Stephanie will be out. I don't like it, but it's happened repeatedly on this show.
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