I think the recaps penned by JenM, JenC, and Chris already settled the "understanding of grammar and the [E]nglish language" among the Apprenti issue - and not to the positive.

From John's "spoiler";



So this person is a she? That narrows things down.

From the Yahoo Fantasy Game Episode 5;


Was Trump trying to hint that he knows something when he said that?



Perhaps, the person in question doesn't do it in front of the cameras but in a clandestine place where Caroline inadvertantly walks in on her, e.g. the ladies' room.

All I can say is that it had better be cocaine that's shown on Thursday, or he is (1) an asshole; and (2) an asshole who just may get himself sued.

I don't think so . . . he emphasized that his remark was meant as a compliment, and since she had just finished spinning a line of BS, that makes more sense to me. Trump makes some goofy comments, for sure, but I don't think he's so stupid as to make a loose allegation about purported drug use. That's a serious charge and if it turned out to be true, it could rebound negatively against the show.

Ay-yi-yi! Am I the only one who feels like there is some serious leg-pulling here!

NBC put up the trailer for next week, and apperently it is Chris chewing tobacco. In a clown costume. Maybe there's another "big secret"? I'm really getting bored with this show.

Wow, that would be something eh? Remember back in the motel episode, the "cold" Audrey had? Hrm.

Oh, my. Chris, you don't just look like an a-hole... How clueless do you have to be to chew tobacco while working in any customer service position, let alone one where you're working with kids and their parents? And wow, Carolyn and NotGeorge look seriously displeased.

Tana looks perfectly at home in a clown costume. Eeep.

Based on the trailer, then Chris may very well be the one 'addicted,' meaning Networth lost the task and confirming the spoiler regarding Magna's winning streak; and he may be fired over that, leaving Audrey intact and confirming the 'walk toward the camera' plus 'two female finalists' spoiler.

I'm going to miss Chris. He was the one unpredictable element.

Based on the sneak peak at Yahoo!, seems like Chris is addicited to chewing tobacco. I guess this means that NW does indeed lose based on Carolyn's statement in the boardroom and also that S2 John is a dick.

I didn't see the preview, but have read the speculation. What if Carolyn's referring to spitting the by product of "chaw" on the ground? What if Chris was dipping and expectorated the juice on the ground in front of the customer(s) and then tried to deny it when called on it?

Oh goody! Not only tobacco, but chewing tobacco! Gross! So, judging from the various previews, at minimum, we'll have Angry Clown (Audrey) and Tobacco-Chawin' Clown (Chris). This should be a good one!

(Sorry to slip into Jenn C. exclamatory mode.)

If ever an episode deserved exclamation points, it's this one!

My bet is the "addiction" is the chewing tobacco and Audrey's "spat" is about something else.

And I agree: Trump will look even more like a jackass if it's not drugs.

Since Chris AKA Chawy, the Dippin'-n-Spittin' Clown, has such a bad attitude toward wearing the clown suit (not that I blame him, for that at least), it's unlikely he's the PM. Otherwise, as the PM, he could put the kibosh on the clown theme. That leaves Craig and Audrey as the most likely candidates for PM. I'm leaning toward Audrey, especially since she remarks that Tana's clown getup is "so CUUUTE!" (Bleah!) She seems like someone who would just LOVE clowns.

So, assuming that Net Worth loses, it's conceivable that Chawy will not be fired tonight, despite his faux pas. He'll be hammered for it, for sure, and I'm particularly looking forward to Carolyn's comments. But it depends on what Trump judges to be the reason for the loss. If it's the clown theme, and Audrey came up with it, then she could be fired. If it's not the clown theme, but the fact that prospective customers were turned off by Chawy, then Chris could be fired. But, one of the fantasy game boardroom questions indicates that Trump calls someone "beautiful." In Net Worth, that's more likely to be Audrey than anyone else. I can easily envision Trump saying something like "Audrey, you're a beautiful girl, I mean, you're really beautiful . . . but you're fired."

Anyone think that what John posted on Fishbowl is true, he was just wrong about that being the "addiction" talked about in this week's episode? Maybe a producer did tell him about someone doing lines of coke, NBC just chose not to air it (which is probably smart), and fired that person for another lame reason as a cover up.

If the issue of cocaine use doesn't come up on-screen, I don't see how we would know. We could speculate or guess endlessly, but we wouldn't know. if it's not mentioned in the episode, why would John say that it's part of the episode? And if it's not, then John may well be in deep water and I'd rather not be there with him.

I think John is merely speculating that it comes up in the show. He says that "A producer told me after the show that one of the people on the cast was blowing lines of coke (no not the beverage, the powdered variety) in the suite." But then he says "I never thought in a million years that they would air it until I saw the ads for the upcoming show. Apparently they bring it up in the boardroom." He is coming to this conclusion himself based on the promo - he never actually says that the use (or discussion of the use) was definitely shown on camera or brought up in the boardroom.

Personally I think the coke thing is just some gossip from the production staff and the "addiction" mention is about smoking or chewing. Most of the spoilers (like the Yahoo game) point to tobacco of some kind. And I can't help but think that something as major as cocaine would have gone onto public record (due to an arrest) and somehow would have been spoiled much earlier.

Does anyone notice during the Audrey meltdown that is appears to be night time as well as outside what almost looks like the Trump building. If I'm not seeing things, maybe it's possible this is before she enters the cab after being fired. Also, it's at the end of the preview, possibly meaning it's near the end of the episode. Since the task is definitely during the day, her meltdown looks to be either before or after the task.

I noticed that too, but it definitely looks like they're in the suite, since there's a balcony behind her (I think?), and we can see a man (probably Chris) in front of her. Usually, the firee is alone, or shown as alone, and we only see him/her walking to the cab. But, could that scene have been shot in the suite just before the boardroom? Hmm . . . I'm really starting to look forward to tonight's episode.

P.S. JanGator, your reasoning makes sense, that is, that John is only speculating. Evidentially, unbeknownst to him, his brain had become detached from his hands when he sent that message. Well, he is sure cute, but not the brightest bulb in the pack . . .

I'm leaning toward Audrey for PM also. That comment makes it seem as though the clown costume was Audrey's idea. Also in the preview, Tana and Chris were getting into their clown costumes while Audrey was on the phone in regular clothes, which leads me to believe she is this week's PM. For Magna, I'll say Kendra. It's a coin toss between her and Stephanie.

So, no cocaine addiction. Thank God that spoiler turned out to be false.

And YES! Erin was the utterer of "Mac Daddy." Who else could it have been?

However, looking at the preview for next week's episode, I'm thinking that the candidate who tries to act a little bit too cool is Tana. I know Trump thought she was good on camera, but to me, it's kinda like having someone's mom emceeing on MTV. (sorry, I should say "veejaying" on MTV.)

Well, so much for the credits theory.

Now that they're mixing the teams up, and assuming the veracity of an all-female F2, I'm starting to think that both candidates will be Book Smart people, namely Erin and Kendra, one of whom has been reassigned. I then hope that Kendra wins. We'll see in a week whether my prediction has any chance of coming true.

Also, TA2's John is an idiot. Has Pamazon dumped his pretty ass yet?

I hinted earlier that Bren, Tana, John, and Stephanie made it to the rock auction. Well, here's what I heard from my source. Tana ends up teaming with Bren (on Magna). I didn't post this earlier, because I thought it might be a mistake, but now from the previews, I know it's true. Obviously, Craig is with Tana on Magna. I also think that Stephanie works with John on Networth, but I'm not sure about that one.

From what I hear, both John and Bren are obnoxious on this episode, but John even more than ever, from what I hear.

As much as I have hated Chris's performance earlier in the show, he seems to have normaled up (chewing tobacco clown performance aside). John's head keeps getting bigger and bigger. If Networth loses, I think he's out of here. I can totally see John having a choice to send two people to Magna, and choosing Craig and Tana and keeping Angie and Chris (who he may perceive as weaker, thus more easily fired). If Kendra is PM and gets to choose, I can see her keeping Bren and Alex and sending Erin and Stephanie to Networth.

By the way, I have no idea who wins or loses, or who is PM. I think John might be - would make sense, given that he owned a dance club.

Don't forget this prophetic comment from CheekyCricket. You'll see what I mean next Thursday.

Don't miss next week.

Re: Restructuring

I suppose the question is wull next episode have the kind of restructure where each team gets to send two people over to the other team, or will it be the kind of restructure where each team picks two people to come over to their side, or will Trump just do it arbitrarily?

Just an FYI--The Survivor site posted the info for ep 8 on how each person performed on that task. It doesn't give away anything about the restructuring though.

The Survivor Site

Hmm. The Survivor site's rankings say that Bren and Stephanie perform poorly on this task. John and Angie are fair, Chris is average, and everyone else is rated good. If spindotdat's PM theory is correct, Magna wins again with Kendra at the helm (which works nicely with the 7-win streak spoiler).

Stephanie has immunity. So goodbye Bren unless he's on Magna.



True, Tana is like your mom on MTV, but she lacks that arrogance that makes for truly embarassing failure. I think John will be the hip one. Star struck? That description screams Erin, but I bet it'll be Stephanie. Didn't we have some sort of spoiler hint about that?

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Hey, I was enjoying the thought that I made a prophetic remark!

About Stephanie: there was a teaser to the effect that Gene Simmons hits on her, but whether that means she's star struck and thus encouraged him to do so, I couldn't say. Another scene to look forward to, though . . .

Bren's on Magna. I still am not sure I belive the winning streak spoiler. It could have been an exaggeration. The Survivor site confirms it for me, with one exception - I said either John or Bren would go. Now I'm going to expand that to include Angie, since her performance is equal to John's.

It's looking more and more like a final 4 of Alex, Erin, Kendra, & Tana?

http://www.thegamessurvivorspoilers.5u.com...pprentice2.html

I wouldn't put too much store in what this site says. They've given the same ratings for candidates since episode 1. I think they refer to the calibre of each candidates resume, not their performance on the show.

Actually, the site ratings have changed and they even skipped the one episode, I think it was #6 and didn't have anything up for that one. They've been pretty acurate on the performances from the tasks when I've taken the time to look.

Well...if you'd ever heard Gene Simmons on the Howard Stern show, you'd know that Gene doesn't exactly need encouraging. (shudder) That man is in constant horn-dog mode.

Ewww. I just grossed myself out.

I was never a KISS fan so I have a difficult time understanding the appeal of Gene Simmons, but whatever. The list of celebrities is, well, odd. Moby, Eve, Gene Simmons . . . can't remember who else right now, but Moby and Eve seemed like the only A-listers. Oh yeah, Li'l Kim (wasn't she at one of the award parties last season?).
Regarding the Survivor site, I found this post from a few pages back:

Audrey did poorly, but I don't know why Bren and Stephanie were also rated as doing "poorly." Stephanie mustered the support of her team, despite the fact that they saw her as an obstacle a few weeks ago, and from what little we saw of Bren, he did a fine job of dealing with the children and making them feel comfortable. So, I'm a bit skeptical of their rating scale.

ITA with CheekyCricket. Stephanie was by no means poor on putt-putt. It's perhaps a spoiler, but not a very informative one.

Edited to Add:

Info re: Episode 309 (note the special start-time, 8:30).



Home improvement skills? This has got to be a Home Depot task. Home Depot is a major sponsor, right? An overconfident candidate slacks off? Can that be describing anyone except John? Hmmm.

Jet into the stratosphere? They're sending Chris to the moon?

Tara confirms in her Fishbowl interview that she heard rumors while on the show about fellow contestatns who like to shoot coke. In particular, she mentioned two rumors, one ascribed to someone on Magna and another ascribed to someone on Net Worth. The only thing she would say with any certainty was that it was a guy who snorted the cocaine. Interesting.

Tara also talked about the rampant masturbation and use of electronic devices for pleasure that weren't toasters, but that's for another thread.

ETA:
...it was a was a mistake on my part. And having my English skills compared to that of Net Worth? Ya, I think I'll go hang myself now.

Ewwww. I so didn't need to know that.

Another Networth misuse of language? Either it was rampant, or, well, perhaps I should stop right there.

Why anyone would need to mention THAT, I don't know, but I'm not Tara. I'm sorry she felt compelled to share those details with the world. Sour grapes, that's what it sounds like, and that doesn't speak well of her.
This is the first episode after the recaps show, right? Perhaps the PM with the "unwavering idea" is Chris. I agree that the overconfident slacker may well be John, and if it is, he's likely to be fired if he ends up in the boardroom. Hopefully, it's not Alex or Angie.

I think Bren could be the one who is overconfident. It sounds like Bren. Either Bren or John.

I would be somewhat surprised, if Kendra gets to pick her team, she would keep Bren and Alex over Erin. Erin has been a hard worker on most of the tasks, as much as Alex or Bren. Perhaps there's some conflict we haven't seen.

Doea anyone know who is going to trade teams in the upcoming restructure?



Could it possibly be Kendra instead of Stephanie? The two look rather similar at a distance. What if Craig winds up managing Magna and Kendra manages Networth?
Btw, Kendra's website, http://www.kendratodd.net is up and running. She looks like she's had a Pam style makeover since the show was filmed.

She looks her very best but seems to have the same basic features, unlike Pamela (Sorry, Pam, I'm not faulting you for it). She does seem to understand the value of laying out the bucks for a professional photographer, perhaps because of her experience with an astronomically priced fashion photographer who made everyone look fantastic. (He should, for the fees he charges.)

Practically speaking, I don't understand the need to reshuffle the teams, since as I count it, they're now evenly matched, five on a side. Perhaps since Magna has gelled as a team, while Net Worth has imploded, or dissolved, or whatever, there's a desire to give the members of Net Worth a better chance of succeeding. I'm happy to see that they haven't gone back to the tired old man-vs.-woman schtick. This is more speculation than spoiler, but is it possible that candidates have a chance to vote themselves on to another team? I could see Tana moving to Magna by choice.

Kendra's a real estate marketing whiz who pioneered some sort of real estate T.V. show in southern Florida so she's probably well aware that being pretty will help her sell herself/ houses.

As for the teams, I think that it's either like last time (get rid of the people you don't want or like TA1 pick a player - college, high school, college, etc....).

All I saw from the preview is that Tana and Craig are still on the same team... I think. They appeared to be working together at the mikes.

From Nick's Inside Pulse commentary
http://www.insidepulse.com/article.php?contentid=34976

It's only a prediction but I wonder if it will be prophetic.

No worries -- everyone makes a typo now and then. It's nothing to get demeaningful about or bring up in a conversation with, you know, too much personalness.

Yahoo! fantasy game questions are up. Because we know that the teams are restructured, it's a little tricky to interpret the significance of some questions. However, the following question may give clues about who ends up on which team:

Also, here's another interesting question:

I think the likeliest answer is John. If so, could this indicate that Stephanie and John are on the same team, i.e., Magna?

Edited because the info was posted above while I was typing about the yahoo game post.

As I said upstream, Tana and Craig go to Magna and join Bren. From the Yahoo clues, it confirms for me that Stephanie and Erin join Networth (otherwise, why would Tana group them?). Assuming each team gets to send two people over, I have to assume that Kendra is PM and chooses to send Stephanie (with her exemption) and Erin over, keeping Alex and Bren. From what I know, I strongly believe either John is PM, or Chris is PM and give John a lot of authority. And one of them sends Tana and Craig over, keeping the other one and Angie.

From the clips show, Gene Simmons flirts with Stephanie. Perhaps she's the star-struck one, and is fired for talking too much? Wait. How can Stephanie be fired if she has an exemption? Never mind.

Is it possible that John also goes to Magna? This question has me thinking:
Usually, the boardroom questions include two members from each team, so if Erin and Stephanie go to Net Worth, and Craig goes to Magna, that leaves John as the other Magna member.

ETA
Also, it occurs to me that we don't find out about the flirtation until the clips episode; since it's not shown during the "Bling It On" episode, the star-struck one may be someone else. I'm thinking it's Tana, but doubt that's the reason for the firing.

If Magna becomes:
John, Craig, Tana, Bren & Stephanie with Craig as the expected PM

Then Networth becomes:
Chris, Angie, Erin Alex & Kendra with Kendra as the PM, then that sets Chris up to be the PM for the Home Depot task as the only one who would not have yet led his team.

I think this set up covers all the bases listed in the posts above about who people work with on the tasks too.

ETA: This also would make sense for Erin to be a DJ (I think a read that a few pages back about a comment from Trump), because Craig & John who seemed to "know music" for the Dove task wouldn't be on her team

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