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Yumpy
"If you had applied, and were picked for season one of the Apprentice, do you think you would have gotten farther?

That’s a very good question. I don’t know if I would have gotten along with anyone from last season. The guys had no personalities. It was an advantage watching season one. It gave me a heads up on what to expect."

This idiot is so out of touch regarding personality that it amazes me that he got as far as he did. Actually the fact the he made it on to she show is incredible; it must have been his command of the english language "underwears." Send this dufus back to school and make him take remedial English to work on his verb tenses and plurals. Troy had more personality in their finger nail then the entire cast of season two and three.
goobaletta
Liz Smith offers mild dish on TD's kids. NY Post.
DolphinFan
[QUOTE]1.One of the men was telling the other men what it was like to have sex with his wife. The only two married men in the cast were Chris and Wes.[QUOTE]

Rob is also married. But he has never come across as anything other than classy and I would bet my life savings he isn't the person Pamela is talking about. And as much as I find Wes to be as boring as Bingo Bob Russell on TWW, he seems to be a guy with integrity and dignity.

Wonder who that leaves?
happycamper
Well, John revealed in a radio interview that just three days after filming started, Chris quite openly asked the producers about where he could "take care of business", or "carve" as Chris liked to call it. Later on, it was revealed that Chris was unaware about the presence of night-vision cameras in the bedrooms. Make of that what you will.
100cats
"Carve"? Who the hell would marry this guy? Poor woman...
Miss Alli
I realize I need to get out more, but . . . I agree. "Carve"? Feh.
goobaletta
Just, ew.

Associate Piles Up Televised Hours on "The Apprentice" NY Lawyer

Trump Opens Executive Summit. Commercial Property News.

What Katty's doing down in Miami. Sun-Sentinel.
thehepburn
3. One of the women simulated performing oral sex with an electric toothbrush before the cameras.


And then we saw Ivana with her electric toothbrush 2 episodes ago. Ewwwwww.
MomToSean
That NY Lawyer article seemed to say at the end that someone with insider information was betting Jenn M and Kelly make it into the Final Two. I'm surprised, if that's true, that hasn't surfaced in any other media. Was that the initial Final Two that people were talking about earlier this season? I never looked at who it was supposed to be.

And also. "Carve". That nauseates me in many ways, and primarily because I wouldv'e never picked John to say something like that. Chris, absolutely.
happycamper
John doesn't use the word "carve" himself, he was merely relating a story (you have to hear him say it, he does a good Chris impersonation).

It's a good interview. Go here if you want to listen to it. They also provide a recap of the interview on the site.
Frabrato
For the record, Sandy was also shown using an electric toothbrush in the most recent episode.
Also, I wonder what kind of a woman would let Crass Rolex "carve" her? Interestingly enough, when Crass rated the Apprentice women on a scale of 1-10, he reserved his highest ratings for Maria(9) and Jenn C(8).
goobaletta
MomtoSean, that betting story was all over the media a while back. Everywhere. I posted about it here and it hit virtually every newspaper, business, and gambling industry website around the net. I can't recall if it was in late September or early October, but it's not new news. IIRC there was a fair amount of discussion in the spoiler/speculation threads too on the topic.
gusto
my friend's interview with Stacie J

its pretty good actually.

Part 1
Part 2
goobaletta
Thanks for posting that, gusto! I think it's more than pretty good. Stacie comes out of it looking more than rational and competent. Certainly moreso than Jen C. or Lizzie or Maria or Ivanadroptrou...
archer1267
I feel really naive for asking, but what does "carve" mean?

Are we talking masturbation here?
Miss Alli
I assume so. I am getting that from context, though, as it's not a familiar euphemism to me. Though maybe it's a guy thing.
DolphinFan
Thanks for posting that, gusto! I think it's more than pretty good. Stacie comes out of it looking more than rational and competent.


I recall that Sam also made the point last year, that contestants were not allowed to do tasks on their own (when the teams were first starting out and had a lot of people on them) and had to go in pairs or trios even for assignments that frankly did not require more than one person's labor to complete.

I never thought Stacie J. was crazy at all, and this interview reinforces that. The irony is that she was not a big contributor and her teammates didn't like her and she seemed to set herself apart from the team instead of being a strong leader or super-competent follower--all legitimate reasons for her to have been fired in the context of TA. Firings that are "for the wrong reason but reach the right outcome" don't work well.
BassetHound
I assume so. I am getting that from context, though, as it's not a familiar euphemism to me. Though maybe it's a guy thing.


As a 31 year heterosexual man who spent his college days in a fraternity, I can honestly say that I have never heard the word "carve" used to describe the act of masturbation. In fact, it is one of the few words I have never heard used to descibe it.
BlueSkies
I assume so. I am getting that from context, though, as it's not a familiar euphemism to me. Though maybe it's a guy thing.


I've never heard it either. Probably comes from wood, woody. Carve.
hendersonrocks
Probably comes from wood, woody. Carve.


Genius. It would have taken me many long, torturous, hours of thinking from Chris's perspective to figure that out.
goobaletta
Heidi's commentary is up at the official site. Damned if she doesn't compliment IvanabefromtheOldSouthlikeJenM. Gah.
Frabrato
I'm pretty sure "carve" refers to digging a pointy part of the male anatomy into a female body cavity.
rcobeen
While I've never heard the term "carve" used before, as a guy who has had the misfortune of hearing guys talking about their sexual antics, I would assume "carve" refers to fucking, not individual activity.
monkeynl
It's sad that this is the only thing from The Apprentice to inspire me to post in a while, but my first instinct about the word "carve" was the same as what Frabrato thinks. And I never minded Chris that much, but this totally squicks me.
RainIsBeautiful
From Heidi's commentary...
At least Ivana was not wearing cheesy white pumps with a jean skirt ;)... Who wears that??

To whom is she referring? I'm drawing a blank...

ETA:
Kelly:
You are the only one who has done a tremendous job so far. You are a great project manager and a hard working team player. In my opinion you are the best candidate I have seen so far... including last season.

I know everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but seriously...she thinks Kelly is better than Troy or Kwame or Bill?

She still dumbfounds me after all this time. I know it's only been months, but it feels like years.
kagagnon
Stacy R. had them on during the dog washing task (it has been pointed out that she later had on flip flops).
Zmeister
That NY Lawyer article seemed to say at the end that someone with insider information was betting Jenn M and Kelly make it into the Final Two. I'm surprised, if that's true, that hasn't surfaced in any other media. Was that the initial Final Two that people were talking about earlier this season? I never looked at who it was supposed to be.


Actually, that heavy betting was mentioned (on CNN no less) back sometime near the beginning of the season.
oldbabe
Here in the land of NASCAR, there was a story on the local news with film of several NASCARs parked diagonally on a street in NYC -- it may have been Wall Street -- for the kick-off of some type of upcoming NASCAR event in NY. Trump was the person who announced, "Gentleman, start your engines!" that prompted the cars moving into formation along the street (not racing!).

I can just imagine Trump gathering his latest group of apprenti to tell them, "NASCAR is a $20 billion a year business and I want a piece of it. Your next task is to design a car for Trump Racing Enterprises. The winning team will be the one that places the greatest number of TRUMP! decals on the car (excluding the windows and tires)."
goobaletta
A very on target snippet from SI.com:
The Apprentice update: The gig is finally up for Ivana and her bizarre fixation on Jen. Ivana was canned on Thursday's show after she dropped her skirt and flashed her bikini shorts in an effort to sell a candy bar for $20. Even so, Ivana's Apex team was swamped by Jen and Sandy, who wore matching red tops and denim skirts to sell the candy for $5 each. The outfits weren't all that provocative but somehow outraged Ivana. She called Jen and Sandy "hookers" and "strippers," adding "And when I say strippers, I mean in a cheap bar dive in Texas with peanut shells on the floor." Putting aside Ivana's apparent familiarity with low-rent Texas strip joints, it's ironic that The Donald canned her by saying, "I'm not hiring a stripper." In the boardroom, Ivana lashed out at Jen, even though Jen, as a member of the winning team, wasn't there and could not be fired. Let's just hope that Ivana can somehow get over her Jen envy and move on with her life.
100cats
I'm pretty sure "carve" refers to digging a pointy part of the male anatomy into a female body cavity.


Ok, as disgusted as I was when I assumed he meant masturbation, now i'm way more disgusted...his wife would not be allowed to visit him while he's on the show, right? So he's pretty much asking the cameramen where he can cheat on his wife. Lovely. And didn't he just have a kid too? Ugh.
BlueSkies
Ok, as disgusted as I was when I assumed he meant masturbation, now i'm way more disgusted...his wife would not be allowed to visit him while he's on the show, right? So he's pretty much asking the cameramen where he can cheat on his wife. Lovely. And didn't he just have a kid too? Ugh.


His wife was pregnant when he was doing the show. In one interview he said that he talked to his wife at least twice a day, even talked by phone to the baby while it was still in her womb.

I don't think he meant actual sex, I still think he meant masturbate.
archer1267
At least Ivana was not wearing cheesy white pumps with a jean skirt ;)... Who wears that??

RainIsBeautiful, I believe that's referring to Jenn and Sandy. I don't think they were wearing pumps so much as strappy high-heeled sandals, though.
oldbabe
I listened to John's interview on The Fishbowl, and the way he describes the circumstances around Chris's use of the word "carve" leaves no doubt that he meant masturbation.

A couple of John's comments confirm what many people on TWoP have speculated about the editing on this show:

"...when you don't see someone on camera much, it doesn't mean they're not doing anything, it just means they're not doing anything sensational...doesn't mean they're sitting in a corner with their thumb in their rear, it just means they're not talking out loud, they're not making drama…"

John also said he understood going into the show that the editors could make you look like an asshole, or any way they wanted, but the editors also told him "...We can't make you say stuff you never said. So if I don't say anything bad about anybody, they don't have anything to show." But what pissed him off was that Trump's voice overs are the opposite..."they allow him to say things to you that you can't defend...in the real BR he said, "you're a talented guy, you made a lot of mistakes, but you'll be successful. What do you think of my assessment?" and I agreed, and he said I don't have a choice, I have to fire you. But the voice over says I made a lot of mistakes, I didn't bring Wes to the board room, you're fired, then it shows me agreeing with what Trump had said in the real board room."
sinclair
Here is the previously mentioned article with the oldest 3 Trump kids, from New York Metro. I can't decided if they are sensible and not Paris Hilton like or just smart enough not to let that side show.

Thanks for the recommendation The Other Daughter. I've added it to my not-netflix list.
powderyblue
New Raj interview. Some very interesting info, but get ready to do some serious eye-rolling.
clack
I can honestly say that I have never heard the word "carve" used to describe the act of masturbation.
A rather recondite euphemism for male masturbation is "candle carving." Perhaps "carving" is derived from that expression, and is common usage among those circles within which Chris revolves.
pocha
I can honestly say that I have never heard the word "carve" used to describe the act of masturbation.

A rather recondite euphemism for male masturbation is "candle carving." Perhaps "carving" is derived from that expression, and is common usage among those circles within which Chris revolves.


I think not, clack. Anyone who is sufficiently unguarded to say on national television, "I have a Rolex Presidential and I'm worshing a duog's aaasss ..." is estopped from claiming even a glancing acquaintance with the more abstruse forms of the English language. "Beating the bishop" is about as enigmatic as ol' Chris gets.
goobaletta
clack, you have given me a new word for my vocabulary this day. Recondite. Excellent word. I have made a note of it. Also, in all my research I did to prepare for living in the Victorian era, I now recall having come across the term "candle carving." I didn't get its meaning then. Too bad. It would have been very useful for double entendres and trying to crack up my fellow actors.

And pocha, I agree that it's probably not a term Chris would know. It's clearly archaic. I'm looking through my old books now to see if I can find the usage I remember. I hope I find it. Such a nastily useful term.

Nick's recap is up at Inside Pulse. Go. NOW!

MSNBC's Ask the Reality TV Experts column is up.

From TV Gal's column at Zap2it:
I also think "The Apprentice" (Thursday, NBC, 9 p.m.) would have been a lot better off if they had given us a chance to miss the Donald's business adages ("Know your enemy." Donald you are a genius). I kind of wish we could have this year's challenges with last year's contestants. And I don't know what to say about Ivana. Although George apparently had no problem with it, it was an embarrassing moment for women everywhere.
katarzyna
Nick's recap is up at Inside Pulse. Go. NOW!

Yes! I *heart* Nick.

His reason for supporting Jennifer:
Besides, it makes me smile just to think how much your victory would piss Ivana off.

Spot on perfect, Mr. Warnock!
walkway
Katrina Campins- Sony Music


I live in Miami and I was rooting for Katrina so I keep up on her. ;)

Katrina, Bill and Bradford
goobaletta
Deconstructing the Trump-ster -- Business lessons learned from Episode 13 of "The Apprentice." Richmond.com The link to this guy's analysis of Episode 12 is at the end of the article. I don't think I posted it last week for some reason.

NO-TIP REJECTS. NY Post. Put down your coffee first if you're Jen C. PHOTO sensitive.

A few questions with Crazy Sam. Palm Beach Post.

From the Northwest Indiana Times:
Comb on down

Donald Trump will be at Marshall Field's on State Street at noon today in the cosmetics department to promote his new fragrance, called, what else ... Donald Trump. A 3.4-ounce bottle is $60.
Because I really HATE it when incomplete information is given, I went to the Marshall Field's website and searched around to figure out which store Trumpy's visiting today. It's not in Indiana, even though it's listed in an Indiana paper. It's Chicago. As in Illinois. Apparently there's some nebulous area called Illiana. They have that back home too, but it's Virgilina for a town on the border of Virginia & North Carolina. Gah. So if you're in Chicago today, you can go see The Hair.
djmama
Gah. So if you're in Chicago today, you can go see The Hair.


goobaletta, a lot of people who work in Chicago commute from NW Indiana...people live there because of the lower rents/taxes, and it's not the worst train ride to Chicago (I think an hour-and-a-quarter?). And Field's on State is pretty well known in these parts. But yeah, I see where the confusion lies.

Topic? Sam doesn't think Ivana should have been fired? Eep! If we are to believe the 5-hr boardroom rumors, she got fired for a lot more than dropping trou. I'd have fired her just for the shrieking, but that's just me.

I knew Nick's commentary would be his best so far...but that? was Excellent!!!
The Other Daughter
Great recap by Nick. ITA that as tasteless and pitiful as Ivana's striptease was her performance in the Boardroom was even worse. Her hatred for Jen was pathological. I also agree with him about the way Kelly didn't try to contribute. I have been ticked with Kelly ever since he got the exemption that Sandy earned. In a way I think he tends to coast just the way Jen does. Unfortunately, I agree with his assessment that Kelly and Jen will come out looking best in the interview process because I like Sandy more than either of them.
blocked writer
Great recap by Nick. ITA that as tasteless and pitiful as Ivana's striptease was her performance in the Boardroom was even worse. Her hatred for Jen was pathological.


You know, I didn't particularly like Nick last season. But with his funny cameo on American Dreams and his excellent recaps, I have to re-think my earlier opinion. Nick really nailed it with Ivana, didn't he?
Lambchop
Ooooo! I'm gonna have to read that!

I'm wondering what Ivana's doing now that she's been fired from Apprentice? Someone posted waaaay upthread, her boyfriend broke up with her, but now I hear that her wedding's still on and scheduled for next year. Of course, she's so freaking important and wonderful, why wouldn't her boyfriend want to marry her?

And the job offers must be rolling in too, after that stellar performance on Apprentice. What boss wouldn't love to have an employee who says, "Look! Look!" every time you ask them a question?

Wonder if she still has her job at the financial firm in Boston?
mala sladka
I swear, I've never watched Scarborough Country (or whatever it's called) on MSNBC before in my life, but Ivana was on last night as 1 of 4 panelists discussing sex: crossing the line. And guest hosting for Joe Scarborough was... tada! Pat Buchanan! It was awesome. Ivana did little - I'd even say nothing - to redeem herself. And she looked cross-eyed and dopey. But watching her boardroom performance seems to have erased "Look!" from her vocab. Now it's: "I mean..."

Duh.
AlmondEyes
And the job offers must be rolling in too, after that stellar performance on Apprentice.


Sure! From every strip joint in Boston and the surrounding suburbs, probably. And once she introduces the requisite stripper pole to polish up her act, I tell you this girl is gonna go places. Heh.

And yes, Nick's recap is priceless. Definitely good readin'.
Biff42
NO-TIP REJECTS. NY Post. Put down your coffee first if you're Jen C. PHOTO sensitive.

A staffer at Aer — which recently hosted a Maxim magazine party launching an issue featuring the show's scantily clad hotties on the cover — claims that neither saucy Jennifer C. nor bow-tied Raj tipped her one cent when she brought several rounds of free drinks to their table


You know, if you have to pay a tip, then drinks aren't really free. It's sort of like the assholes who hold the door open for you and then say, "You're welcome". Hey, nobody asked you to hold the door open, and nobody asked for free drinks either. More power to them.

It must have been in New York. They demand tips for everything in that city, essentially making them no longer "tips"
iMissEthan
I completely disagree. If you're at a party with an open bar, it's not cut and dry whether the tips for the waitstaff/bartenders have been covered. Sometimes you'll see a sign by the coat check saying 'gratuities paid by your host'. And I'm thinking that since the staffer brought the drinks to their table, they did order them. They definitely should have tipped. I tipped the first few rounds at TARCon until informed that their tips were included with our price, and I bet Jen & Raj are better off than me financially.
goobaletta
djmama, I hope I didn't offend you or anyone living in the Illiana vicinity. I was irritated by the assumption that I was supposed to know where they were talking about without any more information being provided. Surely they realize that the people who read their online version of the paper are not all necessarily from their part of the world? Erg.

And I'm with you, iMissEthan. When I was getting freebies in nightclubs when I was still performing, I made a point of tipping the wait staff and bartenders. (Or if I was too broke to tip I made sure someone did. Preferably some fool man. ;-) ) I was an absolute nobody, but I understood that most of those folks work very hard for their money at more than one job, possibly raising a family, going to school, trying to pursue a career as an artist as I was, or some combination. Just because the management of a club gave me freebies didn't mean I had the right to disrespect the staff serving me those freebies. One thing I learned is that if you show respect to the staff via tips and politeness, you can get damn near anything you want/need (within reason) when you really are broke.

Shoot. I'd expect Jen C. to be that classless, but I'm very disappointed in Raj and Stacie J. Shame on them.
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