Wonder what the other fired Apprentices think about all of Omarosa's exposure?

As deluded as she is, she's still getting more of an opportunity to tell "her side of the story." Plus the more exposure she gets, the more her chances for future engagements or opportunities to come her way.

I came here to post the Daily News article, but it looks like someone beat me to it!

So here's an inferior article from the Post: TRUMP: YOU GOTTA LOVE IT TO SELL IT, basically arguing that he fired Omarosa because she didn't love the product, which is a load of bologna.

fshk What I got from the article is that her TEAM lost because they didn't like the work, but she got fired b/c of her stupid concussion.

And also, the more her chances to verbally entangle herself in her revisionist history. One of these days (and I can hope) some interviewer is going to be daring enough to drive a truck thru these gaping holes in her stories and call her on 'em.

Maybe she can pick up a gig as a spokesperson for this organization.

The funniest part of the Leno delusion was she kept going "I know you have this on video." "Show the tape." "Roll it." and turning around looking for his rising plasma screen. I thought it was pretty funny that not once did he show a single clip to prove her "theories"...

ETA: archer, the funniest part about that "Brain Injury Association of America" website is this picture smack-dab in the middle of their home page!! Hee.http://www.biausa.org/Images/publications/bvk/homead.jpg

The Chicago Sun-Times has an interesting and informative article (especially if you're looking for a job) about the show, written by the CEO of an outplacement firm. He seems to like Nick and Kwame.

That is a good article peaches. I thought this was a really good observation:

Oh, Lord, stop the madness - Omarosa is on Hardball with Chris Matthews NOW. I love Chris Matthews, but I dunno - I'm gonna have to rethink my opinion of him. Same crap - she's the strongest player, the biggest threat, which made her a target, blah blah blah. I can't stand it anymore - and yet, I'm strangely drawn to watching her. Kind of like watching a car crash. Same bullshit, same creeped out pageant smile, same delusional nonsense.

The spin now is that she was on Clinton's advance team and planned trips for him.

He asked whether in retrospect she could not have flown under the radar. Her regret is that she wished that she formed interpersonal relationships with the team instead of focusing solely on the tasks.

He asked her why, since she was the strongest player, why she got fired. Well, she was targeted by her team precisely because she was the strongest player, folks! Makes sense to me!

Gah.

AlmondEyes, I so agree - Chris Matthews is letting Oma slide...there were so many places he could have 'hardballed' her with follow-up questions, but noooo, none there.

Like when she said "she has fabulous common sense and is a natural leader" - well, he did ding her about the natural leader bit, but then when she said she 'didn't catch on to how things really worked on the show (i.e., voting off the strongest player soonest - she called it "Survivor in the Corporate World"), he didn't ask her about how well her common sense was working then.

She said that Trump respects her and like every other interview, that she was voted off because she was the strongest, etc.

Even worse? Chris' intro - he says "Oprah, Martha, etc. - when you're known by one name, you're a celebrity...and now Omarosa from the Apprenctice" (something to that effect). Oh great, Chris, just feed her ego more!

Do any of these morons watch the show? Trump does the firing! Not her teammates! I only hope she's on The Daily Show someday, because there is no way Jon Stewart would let her get away with this shit.

Damn...Carolyn looks much older than 35 years old!

WTF? This is hilarious.

Oh my, yes. David scared the bejeesus out of everyone (and not just the guy riding the bike he tried to tackle during the lemonade task). And Jason with his "strongest player" way with getting to know his clients. And sweet but deceptively powerful Bowie, who had to be eliminated before he flexed his muscle. And the all-powerful Sam. And Jessie, who just played dumb around pigeons to throw everyone off so they wouldn't see how brilliant and strong she was.

Thank god they voted these power players out early so we were left all the "weaker" players who are left.

Man. If I were Omarosa, I think my media strategy would've been to claim that I was better suited for a career that allowed me to get involved with my clients one-on-one, and that the world of bottled water distribution and apartment renovations wasn't for me. Something that at least made a little bit of sense.

I guess making a little bit of sense is asking too much in this case. Heh.

Wow, direct contradiction of what she said (to Lester Holt, I think?) about how she wasn't there to make friends, she was there to win. The interviewer pointed out that yet other people had managed to make friendships and bond, and she repeated her "I wasn't there to make friends." This is what I meant earlier by tripping herself up.

Thanks for posting that article, Peaches. To play Devil's Advocate, Nick has also violated a couple of those "rules" and perhaps the writer forgot. With the Planet Hollywood challenge, he definitely said negative things about his colleagues and the PM. He tried to make them look unethical, while at the same time trying to distance himself as far from the debacle as possible. I'd also say that he's gotten a bit hot under the collar himself, raising his voice in the board room on different occasions.

O seems to have lost sight of the whole point of show as well. Trump is looking for an executive who can run one of his companies and hopefully make him a profit, therefore he wants the strongest player, it's not a matter of Machiavellian strategems among the participants. She cannot accept she's been weeded out.

Omarosa exemplifies Washington double-speak...she says one thing to one interviewer, then something completely different to yet another. All lies anyway, so it really doesn't matter except that its so entertaining.

Wonder if O reviews her interviews on tape (I'm sure she wants to make sure that pageant-perfect smile, hair, makeup and composure is intact!) and notices these differences...umm, on second thought, I don't think she's bright enough to catch 'em.

ETA: Can anyone explain to me how to create a quote box within a box? Thanks!

Removing...

Omarosa Speaks: "I'm a Good Person!" - from tvguide.com

Here are a few interesting selections from the interview...

My god... is she nuts??? How the hell could she be considered the strongest player in the game? What victories did she ever carry off?

And how the hell did she think Trump liked her "spunk"? Trump called her attitude "disgusting" and "repulsive" when she insulted Jesse and Heidi during the auction challenge... he yelled at her when she stomped into the boardroom during the latest episode... he basically called her a maniac as she was leaving...

And Omyassa thinks he liked her? Is this woman on drugs? How is she treated by the people who hate her in her everyday life?

From the TV Guide thing ..



If they never showed it. How does she have it on TiVO? Does she have magic TiVO?

Maybe she meant she had that episode on TiVO and they never showed the plaster or whatever hitting her.

Physical attacks? Does anyone remember any physical attacks? I think I remember someone putting their hands on her arm at one point early on (Katrina?), but I think if there'd been fisticuffs Burnett's people would surely have edited them in.

As for the rest, it's laughable. It's o.k. for her to call Heidi "the least classiest" and speak about people in a condescending and superior fashion, but not o.k. for anyone to return the favor?



I remember seeing her laugh several times. When talking about Amy, "She's lucky I didn't kick her ass back." Not to mention the gleeful smiles when talking about how she was going to crush her competition, or the robotic smile she had on her face during the Pink Scark Interviews.

Re: Kwame:



Yes, they are very different people. Kwame Plays Well With Others and, more importantly, takes full responsibility when he takes a risk and fails. He may not have won either of his tasks as Project Manager, but he has won the respect of his teammates.

As for HeadacheGate, I can well imagine that she raised a fuss and that the doctors ran all those tests to cover themselves. Burnett may have even have insisted -- I don't believe for one minute that she has legitimate grounds for a lawsuit and has altruistically decided not to file. She is upset enough about "the way she was edited" that if she could get back at them by suing, she would. The doctor told her to take it easy for a week? If it were really a major injury, she would have been hospitalized. That she wasn't says it all.

Are her 15 minutes up yet?

Another thing to love *cough* about Omarosa: likes to refer to herself in the third person when asked a question like "Who is the real Omarosa?"

BibiBella -- The box-within-a-box thing: You nest the [QUOTE] tags. You need, in order: 1. An open quote tag; 2. A second open quote tag; 3. The text of the first quote; 4. A close quote tag; 5. The text of the second quote; 6. The second close quote tag.

Massive self-delusion involved in this whole interview.


If she did, it was most likely because the show's lawyers required every possible test to be made to eliminate even a hint of a lawsuit. I'd want to see that MRI.


I think I recall Ereka(?) putting her hand on her arm. Not an attack, but almost a grab.


Huh? What does her mother being a half hour away have to do with anything? She doesn't want to comment on it because that would take attention away from her severe head trauma, which is oh-so-much more important than colon cancer.

Oh. Well. That does make sense doesn't it. Maybe there was a different, bigger chunk than what they showed us. Although the piece they showed us matched the "this big" gesture The Donald made in the boardroom. Although I thought it was a piece of sheet metal (a chunk of sheet metal?). Or was it see-ment? Or plaster (as it was referred to in the boardroom)? Now my head is getting all hurty.

I don't think failure bothers The Donald as much as an inability to learn from it. He said as much to Nick in The Interview and seemed to respect Kwame's "I took a big risk and it failed, I take full responsibility for that." He's admitted that he's been duped and been known to take big risks himself. Mess up. Own it. Learn something. Move on. Seems to be one of his many mantras (along with "Own it. Gild it."). Which would be why Omyheadhurts' excuses drove him bananas as well as the "she f-bombed me" reason for why she got into the shouting match. Yes. That's what the Donald wants in a CEO. Somebody who can't work with an abrasive client/whatever. He probably knows that he's an abrasive egomaniac and she just proved she wouldn't be able to work with him. Zoinks. And although he did say to Carolyn that he was hard on her, he followed it up with "she always makes excuses .." Sounding to me like he reads her as the kind of person you have to hit over the head (literally) before they shut up and pay attention to what you are saying. Which is pretty much how I read her. She's got a carefully constructed reality and whatever she can't shoehorn in there doesn't exist. Unless you are willing to be hard on her. Then she notices. Briefly. And spins it until it fits. Now Donald likes her spunk (who says that, other than a 2 dollar ho in a bad porn?) and Carolyn is afraid of her. Assy dear, Carolyn would have you for breakfast and not even break a sweat.

I just can't get over how crazy this woman is. I don't think I've ever heard anyone with a bonk on the head being told to be sure to eat one meal a day and to take a week of and get rest. If there truly had been trauma evident on an MRI I can pretty well guarantee that they would have kept her for observation for at least 23 hours. Does she really believe we are that dumb? She has claimed to have been given pain medications ( I assume she is not speaking of Tylenol), claimed to have a concussion, claimed to be suffering from severe head trauma, and most glaring, as someone upthread pointed out, claims to be 29!) She has learned well from the Clinton Gore White House. Say it often enough and truly believe it and you just may convince someone that you speak the truth.

She's been in academia! Not exactly the toughest environment. (I personally think NYC is tougher than DC, but YMMV.) Anywho, if she'd been through the trial of fire in DC, New York should've been a cakewalk for her. Especially if she was the strongest person of the group, as she likes to say. I guess the implication is that Trump is threatened by strong black women too. (Since he cut her loose.)

As for her "Did you see me call anyone a bitch?" comment - she may not have called Heidi a bitch, but telling Trump that Heidi had no class was much worse, IMO. You don't have to be vulgar in order to be vicious and vindictive.

She was on Regis and Kelly this morning, and I caught a tiny bit of the interview. She said she's currently in talks to get her own talk-show. Save us, Jebus!



Well, academia is not exactly known for being sweet and cuddly. There's a lot of competitiveness and backstabbing going on. Mind you, I still don't think she's as strong as she wants to portray, and even if she is strong, there's no need to be a bitch about it.

If she's so darn strong, she would demonstrate it, not tell us. Just like class or charisma. 14:58....

Lord help us if she gets her own talk show...she will become even more insufferable!

And word to the poster who said that "Say it often enough and truly believe it and you just may convince someone that you speak the truth". Many high profile criminals use that technique to convince themselves that they did nothing wrong (these are usually the same folks who are incredibly arrogant and condescending -- Martha Stewart comes to mind). So do politicians, so no surprise that O uses this.

This woman is delusional beyond belief. The idea that any TV network/cable channel or even local channel would give her a show is mind-boggling...I bet she's saying that so that some TV exec will think, "OMG, we're missing out, let's talk to Oma about her own show"....I've seen this technique used often in the world of PR when wanting to create a buzz about a new product/service...and it often works.

FYI, some folks thought she was going to be on "The View" today, but she's not. Not even sure if she's on tomorrow - the ladies said they'll 'be updating what reality show folks are doing, including Omarosa" - so can't tell if that means they're just going to gab about her or have her on the show. Personally, I'd love to see Joy Behar and Star Jones go after her big-time.

Seeing Joy and Star go after her would be a thing of beauty. As far as her talk show? Sure, in a world with 8 gazillion channels anybody can have a talk show. Remember Sharon Osbourne? And when it tanks, as it surely would, she can always say that the world is not ready for a strong black woman.

Nope. I'd bet my car she worked for Gore. Either that or there was a tall, nasty, African American woman with an unusual name working for each of them. (Which means I probably met her -- I was told to avoid the tall, nasty, etc. at all costs, but we did shake hands. Eww.)

Washington is as tough as you let it be. You can pursue the difficult environments, or find a nice job doing something you value. In other words, it's pretty much like any big city. I get the impression she wasn't here that long, anyway.

So she says she wants a talk-show. That puts her in with about 80% of all reality show contestants. She's getting attention now because she's got a big mouth and she was a dramatic character. By summer? "How did that horrible woman on The Apprentice pronounce her name?"

At least that TV guide interview started to corner her and forced her into some even crazier rationalizations. My goodness a lot of her answers were odd.



Both of my parents are professors and their experiences have shown that it is much more vicious than anything I have ever seen in the real world. My mother has had her office repeatedly broken into by colleagues, who also placed a voodoo curse on her, and then scheduled her tenure hearing the day after she had back surgery. One of her colleagues forced a student to cry racism about the test of another colleague because a drawing of Eddie Murphey on a test had big ears and thus implied he was a monkey.
My father was nearly forced to continue to grant extensions to a do-nothing doctoral student because he was living with the head of another department.
Academia is full of crazies and thus perfect for people like Omarosa who cannot properly function in the real world. That could also be why she is so insane.

This must be the reason that Oprah Winfrey isn't very popular.

Poor delusional Omarosa.

DariaG there was a link in the Oma thread (I think) that said she was a receptionist-scheduler for Gore.

Tryouts for the Apprentice 2 start next week in NY.

I've worked in academia for most of my life and my dad was a professor at a two-year college. I didn't mean to imply that it's a nurturing environment, because it can be really cutthroat (The Straight Man by Richard Russo is one of my favorite books - I think it really tells it like it is in Academe.) BUT it is pretty easy to park yourself somewhere, noodle around with esoteric research, pawn teaching responsibilities on TAs etc. and avoid losing your job. You can often keep your job with very little output, in fact. I've never seen a prof lose his/her job - and when they've gotten too old to be effective in the classroom, they've been shuttled off to serve on faculty senate. Some of the oddest people I've ever met have been in academic environments - and their quirks were generally accommodated. (Quirks that wouldn't last in a corporate environment. One guy I worked with at MIT had an anger problem and once upended his filing cabinet during a spell. He eventually got promoted. I agree that many people in academia wouldn't last one month in a for-profit.)

I think Oma means that she was impressed because Heidi's mom was only a half-hour away and was strong enough to not go see her. I also think she wouldn't comment because she would have gone to see her mother.

Also, I do believe that Oma is 29. I think she graduated from Central State in 1996--her Miss CSU photo looks real different from how she looks now.

Okay last off-topic reply, but I've seen many lose their job, it happens when you fail to get tenure when you are in a tenure track position.
Yeah, it's very easy to park yourself somewhere and not do your work, once you've got tenure, but when you look at where Omarosa is now, getting her PhD and being a TA, she is at the point where she is most vulnerable, and should be fighting the hardest, especially since the job market is so poor. At her point she needs to publish a lot or actually teach or else she can lose her job. It's not like she is a tenured professor, or has she started claiming that now?

peacheskdd, does it look like Oma had some work done since you say her college photos looks so different from how she looks now?


And word to the poster who said that if Oma gets a talk show and it fails (as surely it would, IMO), she'd trot out her favorite line "The world's not ready for a strong black woman". Guess she's never heard of Oprah since O is probably considered one of the strongest, black women and most successful businesswoman in the U.S. and probably globally too. And what about other 'strong black women' like Condi Rice who has gone way further in the White House than Oma could ever, ever aspire to? (not to mention way further in academia that Oma could ever hope for since Condi was a high-ranking official at Stanford for several years). Or the black woman who is president of Brown University? Or the 'strong black woman' - Brenda something (forget her last name) who is the CEO of Pepsi? Or Faye Wattleton, former president of Planned Parenthood? Geez, there's actually strong black women out there, Oma, who are very successful!

Somehow all those strong black women made it up the ladder...and since they're all at least 20 years older than Oma, they did it at a time when it was harder for women of any color to break through the glass ceiling -- and Oprah did it at a time when only slim, white women need apply for TV jobs...and she was told she was 'too black, too fat and not attractive enough' to host her own talk show...talk about breaking through barriers!

Boy, does Oma have selective memory when it comes to 'successful, strong black women'!

Ahhh - that TV Guide interview was the best. Too bad the interviewers on TV aren't going after her like that.

The best line in the whole thing is when Omarosa says, "I could be a little more sensitive to interpersonal dynamics, too." Hmmm, understatement of the year maybe?

And I just love how she thinks she's so wonderful just because she never shouted or cursed at people. No, she just insulted them, condescended to them, hung up on them, and left them to do all the dirty work because her head hurt.

I hope someone is actually stupid enough to give her a talk show. It would be fun to watch her self-combust and then slink off into oblivian.

Holy crap. She's just....she's just so....

I have no words.

<sigh>

I was so suspicious of this, I ran a search on some databases we have access to here at work (and I am CERTAIN my boss would approve). She just turned 30 last month. I was so sure she was at least 37.

By the way, her husband Aaron is two years younger than her. Another person to impress with her extensive life experiences.

And one other thing: She is the only "Omarosa" in the United States Of America.

I'm not sure about that, because I also look different than my college pics. She just looks better, particularly in the nose area. ; )

I think it's so interesting that we trot out the same examples of "strong Black women" who are "very successful." The fact remains is that the women we often speak of (Oprah, Condy, Brenda Gaines who is President and CEO of Diners Club) are the exception. There are less than 10 Black women who head up major corporations in America. There are far more who fail or who are prevented from making it because of who they are.



There is only room for one African-American person, IMO, in daytime TV--witness the demise of Wayne Brady (Emmy winner, canceled), Queen Latifah (although an Oscar nod beats daytime TV in my view), Tempestt (not a very good show), Gayle King, and others. (Starr Jones is in an ensemble, and I'm not sure how successful she'd be if she broke out on her own).

Slightly off-topic, perhaps, but let's not keep putting Oprah up as the example of "Black women who've made it," because all you're really doing, IMO, is reinforcing the point that there are so few who have made it.

How expansive is your definition of major corporations? In other words, how many women of any race would be on your list of heads of major corporations in America?

There are very few WOMEN who head up major corporations (one less with Martha going away), much less African American, Asian American, or Hispanic American women. So Oma, like the rest of us women, has a tough road ahead. Yes we typically do trot out the same four or five women as examples. Hopefully someday, they will be so many that we can't keep track.

Staying on topic, I did see Oma on Regis and Kelly. Oma was pageantrific. Fake plaster smile and fake banter. She did take the offensive with Kelly, telling Kelly that she knows that she wasn't getting much love from Kelly. I wouldn't call the banter heated by any means, but it seemed mildly uncomfortable. Kelly came back to say Oma was great television. Oma was all blah blah blah editingmademelookbadcakes.

From last week's episode thread:

You guys mean 3/11 & 3/18, right. They haven't moved the show to Fridays without telling me, have they?
Glad to hear 3/18 is a partial repeat since that's the day of Miss Alli's NYC reading.

Sorry if this doesn't belong in media, but I figured the NBC website quote made this the likely choice. I wanted to respond & it didn't seem appropriate in the episode thread.

I'm talking Fortune 500.



I was responding to a post about "strong Black women," not women, in general.

I actually saw Regis and Kelly on Monday morning when Kelly found out that Oma was going to be on the show. Kelly asked Regis if she saw The Apprentice because she was out on Friday and they didn't get to talk about it. She said something about, I was so glad she got fired. Then off-camera someone said she'd be on the show tomorrow.

Kelly jokingly backtracked, and was like, I'm such a fan of Omarosa... Regis said something like, she's been my favorite from the get-go. It was hilarious. Too bad I didn't get to see the faceoff!

Word, word, word!!!!

peacheskdd, those examples may seem repetitive, but I use them because they're the most famous...there are other successful, strong black women, just not famous or in the public eye enough for at least me to be aware of them. Yes, fewer than white women at Fortune 100 or 500 companies, but heck, white, yellow, whatever women have a way to go in these companies too, it's not like white women have corned the market on making it in big business or gov't. Also, many women (any color) opt out because of the demanding hours required to run a corporation at senior level, thus the proliferation of small businesses owned by women of all colors or those deciding to stay home with kids rather than work 70 hour weeks and never see the little ones at all. The NY Times magazine did just such a story about this not too long ago...

I use them also because Oma acts like there are NO strong, black women out there in the business world...and that's just not true. There are even some at top levels in academia, such as the aforementioned president of Brown University (first female president there, I believe, not to mention being black, so double accomplishment, particularly at what I would call "white boys' club ivy league school) and when Condi Rice was a provost at Stanford, another top university. Other black women who also are stars in their fields and did it at a time when it was hard for ANY woman to break through include: Marva Collins who proved that forgotten kids could learn and thrive through her school in Chicago; the aforementioned Faye Wattleton of Planned Parenthood (incredibly revered in that field and in general); Mother Hale who founded the incredible Hale House in Harlem; Alexis Herman who held a cabinet position in Clinton's administration; BSmith who has her own restaurant, food products and TV show (not sure if it still airs). Those are just a few that come to mind.

As for Oprah - there is only ONE Oprah, IMO, whether one is white, black, yellow, whatever. I truly think every now and then someone that powerful and bright comes along and transforms an industry (as she did with talk TV) and she's it now. Her achievements (whether you like her or not) are beyond impressive. BTW, her exec. producer and now head of her foundation is black and has been on her show since the get-go. Another very successful black woman, I'd say...and I dare say she wasn't already very successful before joining O's show since O, IMO, likely only hires the best, regardless of color. I don't see how using Oprah as an example points out "how few successful black women there are" since Oprah is an entity unto herself, remarkable among any color person, man or woman.

As for Wayne Brady, I'm sorry, but his show was not that compelling so I don't think his show ending has anything to do with him being black (plus now that Ellen has her show which is fab, he faced real competition since they air at the same time in many markets - and Ellen could claim to have had a hard time getting on air since she's gay and detractors might say that has low appeal countrywide...but she's proven herself with a funny, witty show). There have been tons of white folks who had their shows cancelled (some even more quickly than him) - Vicki Lawrence, Leeza Gibbons and others. Gayle King seems to be a lovely person, but her show was not compelling either although I really like her.

Talk TV is littered with failed shows (unless one wants to do a Jerry Springer-eque type show which many folks like Gayle, Queen Latifah, etc. don't care to do) and there's a teeny bit of room for those. It's a flooded market and there are always going to be failure, regardless of color.

So my point is that Oma acts like there are no strong black women out there who have been successful in business or academia when it's just not true. Maybe not the same numbers as white women, but nevertheless there are many impressive black women out there, JMO.

Hrmm... I got the impression that it was actually a very catty, passive-agressive way of insulting Heidi for not caring enough about her mother to go visit her.


See, I knew he wasn't really on "business trips"!