I still think there's a possibility that Stacie J.'s comments about black women dealing with their men being in jail might have been a misquote, or a partial quote, or a quote taken out of context. If seen it happen before; a few lines left out of a quote to make it sound more sensational.

But if she said those words exactly as quoted, even though I understand the point she was trying to make about the strength of black women, I don't think she should have used such broad, blanket statements. My father worked hard all his life, and has never been involved in any criminal activity or incarcerated. And I grew up with many other black children who had the same experience. Having a father in jail is an experience that does affect some black families, but it is by no means universal.

However, I still like Stacie, in spite of some ill-considered remarks. I still have a lot of sympathy for her after the atrocious way she was treated on the show. And her explanation of the way they edited the footage of the 8-ball scene sounded very plausible to me. I agree with her point that if there was more conclusive evidence of her supposed "craziness," the producers of the show would have shown it, with glee. Because that scene had an uneven, patched together look, it gives credibility to the idea that the editors scrambled to make Stacie look unstable to justify Trump's decision to listen to Apex's wild claims and fire her.

I also love the fact that she really described the Apex women to perfection. I wouldn't want to talk to most of those bitches, either. And good for Stacie for continuing to call Donald Trump on his bullshit, too.

Carolyn's going to be on The View this morning. From one set of bitches to another. Check your listings for time.

Trumpy's featured in Liz Smith's column today. NY Post.

Design task sure-fire win for 'bung-gals'? Cincinnati Enquirer

Bwah! From Liz's column, a direct quote from Trumpy:
Guess he's jumping on the pot-kettle-black bandwagon too now. Hee.

And also, is it just me, or is Annette Bening looking startlingly similar to one Clay Aiken lately?

Yes, I don't think Bening's career will improve by having identical hair to Clay.

And why does Melania always affect a pursed-lip look a-la Trump's scowl in their photos together? If that's a billionaire's version of "wearing matched t-shirts"...it just looks ridiculous. And she (they) -always- pose like that.

So phony and pretentious-looking.

Did anyone catch Carolyn on The View? I was planning to watch it but I've had my fill of shrieking harpies this week. I was afraid I wouldn't get much out of it if I had to mute "the ladies" the whole time.

Yeah, I caught about 90% of it. She looked great in a slim-fitting above-the-knee skirt and patterned silk blouse. She greeted the ladies with a kiss apiece, so showbiz! She sat between Baba and Star.

They talked about the differences between last season's women and this season's. She also said that she was straight with TD about thinking the whole show thing was kinda hokey until MB explained how it was going to work. She was initially concerned that the candidates would all be running around Trump's offices and so forth.

Star asked her about Jen C. and why were the "old Jewish ladies" comments aired and Carolyn basically looked at her and said, "Well it is a reality show." Like duh, Star! That amused me.

It was essentially the same interview she's been giving in many ways, but much less uncomfortable than some of them. She's been on The View at least one other time and she's seen Star and Elizabeth at showbiz functions. Oh yeah, Elizabeth totally gushed about what a genius MB is. It was gagworthy.

I feel like I'm forgetting things, but I had one ear listening to the TV while other stuff was going on, as usual. Anyone else see it?

I noticed that too...however, since she got her huge engagement rock, she's actually begun to smile for her photo ops. She must feel mighty relieved now that she snared The Donald.

With his track record, I don't think anyone could actually be "relieved" to have snared him since it is likely a marriage with him will only last until he finds a "newer model". Ya Know!

I watched it. It seemed as though Carolyn was having a good time. She said she was a straight shooter and Star questioned her about why she waited to tell Trump she was pregnant. She said she was afraid and did not want to be pigeon-holed. It is clear that she does not hold the women's team in high regard.

I am soooo jealous that the audience got a copy of her book.

MMorningstar


Hm. I don't know. For the moment, I'm still a bit skeptical about this whole Trump/Melania bethrothal-to-be.

I think maybe seeing herself last season as perhaps somewhat of a, in her eyes, "kept woman", may have led to her putting a bit of pressure on him. And so all these engagement exuberances could be just a way of keeping her distracted until she is no longer useful to him.

I could be wrong, though. If he, instead sees her as a soulmate and love of his life, then I look forward to the festivities. I don't want to use the obvious word but they will, no doubt, be BIG!



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And Goobaletta, I already sent you a valentine way upthread but am not sure you saw it. So I'll just take this opportunity to repeat again how invaluable the many media links are. All your time and efforts are incredibly appreciated. Thankyou so much!

Which circle of hell would this be, I wonder?

Agreed, alicia19. I'm not sure they have a wedding date picked anyway. And I believe Trump didn't even marry Marla until after she had his kid. Seems like in general, he's not all that eager to walk down the aisle.

For Pamela, Apex is low point. Arizona Republic.

Liberty Media's Live Sellout. Motley Fool. Discusses QVC et al's participation in TA2 and how QVC ran out of TA related products on Monday night.

Yay! Carolyn's book is #14 on the Wall Street Journal's non-fiction bestseller list! Associated Press via MLive. Tiny print, many lists from varying sources. You might want to take my word for it to save your eyeballs for viewing the show tonight.

Another firing for Stacie J. NY Daily News

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John's flushed EDMONTON SUN

Why can’t Apprentices ‘talk the talk’? Run a business? They can barely speak English. MSNBC

Gael's Apprentice Update at MSNBC

As always, the Today show has the boot-ee on the show. John is wearing the same tie he wore in the boardroom. And he still can't tie a decent knot in it.

He's doing a good job of defending their flirting with the models, though. He said basically, "come on, we're working all the time, we're up nights, we get the opportunity to meet some of the most beautiful women in the world"..."we're guys". He also said that he was unaware of the pricing getting "jacked up" because he told Wes and Kevin to go with the price that the designer set. Wes went to him off camera apparently and apologized for the price choice. Apparently that was enough for John to feel that he didn't deserve to be in the boardroom. (Wrong move there pretty boy)

Great article by Sars! Hee.

Loved Sars' article! But the survey is really tough. When you're discussing the stupidity level of the Apprentices, it's almost impossible to pick just one.

People's blurb about John's firing. Subscribers. A recap would be appreciated if it's worth the trouble.

The Apprentice hands the girls a win with designing clothes. WCNC. Free registration needed. Wow. Is that a lousy headline or what? And yeah, this is the writer who seemed to think that Raj's use of the word samovar last week was about a brand of Russian coffee and not the tea urn that I'd lay odds Raj knew it was. This guy's commentaries seem to be getting worse by the week. Gah.

Heh. This writer thinks highly of Jen C. NOT! Modesto Bee. Third item in column.

Whitney Pastorek's Entertainment Weekly recap is here. Here are some highlights (she acknowledges that the episode was "hella boring"):





And there will be even more room now on the Raj train:

Thanks, archer1267! I always forget to check EW for some reason. *smooches*

The People article was pretty bland and not very interesting. It did have this item that I have not seen before:

Thanks, parkerjpb! I figured it would be at best bland after the way those items have been going the last several episodes.

TV Barn's review of Episode 6.

Factoid from mrweb.com.

Jen C and Heidi having a very good time at the viewing party

From last Wednesday's Wall Street Journal (sorry, I'm a little behind on my reading):



Doesn't seem to match up with what DT thinks is going on. Why am I not surprised?

Which one is Sar's article?

As to George, I'm thinking I might be perfectly happy with an offspring. Do we know if he has kids/grandkids? {eg}

Ugh, why can't these journalists spell contestant's names correctly?! Whitney Pastorek has misspelled "Stacy" again. The hell? What's wrong with these people?

Also, my retinas are burned from those Heidi pictures.

Who was she smooching? I couldn't tell. Is Jen C. now deliberately trying to be photographed hanging out with Jewish women?

No worries, Goobaletta! You spend so much time finding articles from all over that I'm glad to help out with the EW recaps.

Hah! Those photos of Jen C and Heidi? They have Katrina listed as Ereka Vetrini and go on to have almost a page worth of thumbnail photos entitled "Ereka Vetrini" or "Ereka Vetrini Group Shot" whwn the phots are all of Katrina.

Bad enough no one could tell them apart during the show, but now? Ereka is on a national daytime talk show and people still don't know who she is.
In addition to that...Ereka isn't even in the photos taken of all the Apprentices at the party, yet she was at the party, too (once again, in jeans). Thought she and Katrina were BFF's?

Oh...and Rob? Didn't we hear that there were two divorces as a result of this season? Yeah, I'm bettin' he was one of them. Espcially after all of the pics that have been linked in this thread as well as on JennC's site. He's a little too touchy feely, kissy kissy with the ladies for my taste.

And, JennC.....could you at least pretend that you feel bad about what happened and that you're not a ho? Seriously, that girl has "mattress back" written all over her heavily made up face.

Pretty sure that was Rob, and as NYCMoxi has pointed out, he looks entirely too frickin' touchy feely for a guy who's married with 2 kids.

ClarionGrad, goobaletta's post from 10/14, 3:36 pm (Mountain time, yours may differ.)

Sars' is "Why can’t Apprentices ‘talk the talk’? Run a business? They can barely speak English." MSNBC

Actually, MSNBC is worth checking out daily. Gael Fashingbauer Cooper is a DHAK member and "Pop Culture Junk Mail" maven when not at her MSNBC day job.

Hi. I'm a first-time poster, long-time reader. I found this picture in a catalog I was looking through for some apparel for my company. I thought it was very interesting and wanted to post it here, so you all could see it.....

I'm sorry about the poor scan quality - my scanner is on the fritz....

Stacie J. Catalog Pic

Hope this is the right thread for this....


ETA: Removing signature - thanks for the heads-up, CityDog

From TVGO's Watercooler column by Daniel R. Coleridge:
Trump Does Seventh Avenue Motley Fool

Guys Suffer a Fashion Don't on 'The Apprentice' Zap2it

John Willenborg lacks model behavior and becomes sixth victim on 'Apprentice 2' Reality TV World

Trump's new book will awe, and bore MSNBC

Welcome to the forums, and thanks for the Stacie J pic, Sparky19134. That's definitely her! Someone else found her lovely face on a software package/marketing site; Adobe, if I recall correctly. So I guess Stacie really has made some good, or at least consistent, money wit her modeling career. Good for her. BTW, though, you don't want to sign your posts...that's a no-no around here, as per the FAQs. Just letting you know so you don't get smacked.

Inc.com's blog review of Episode 6.

What if Trump moderated the debates?

The Apprentice UK

Sorry, this is old but this got a big laugh:



Cause, when you want to learn how to run a business, sanity and health codes be dammed! Milkshakes anyone?

Inc.com's blog review of the last episode has three responses in the comments section. Here are the second and third comments:

'Beavis': "Did anyone else notice the rack on Half-Pint at the party?"
'Thomas': "Did not see the rack. Jennifer's tit almost fell out of the pink top. WOW"

So which one is Raj, Beavis or Thomas?

All of the candidates signed a contract saying they would not join message boards, so it couldn't be Raj (you might have been kidding, but I thought I'd add that!) :)

I keed! I keed! I joke with you! (tm Triumph the Insult Comic Dog)

Sam's Commentary

I, too really liked Sars' article. I think the reason the women get away with all the bad grammar etc. is because Trump probably speaks the same way.

Richmond Times-Dispatch review of Episode 6. POLLS.

The Apprentice's Carolyn Kepcher offers business tips in new book THE JOURNAL NEWS. Mostly the same as other such articles, but a couple of new tidbits for diehard Carolyn fans.

Carolyn's book is #9 on the NY Times hardcover advice bestseller list. Free registration. Yay!

Trumpy was feted with a Friars Club roast last night. Apparently it's a slow news day because it made the news, and likely will for several days, in some major outlets. Here are four examples:

Donald Trump Is Done to a Turn NY Times. Free registration required. PHOTO. Awwww, TD and Reege look to be wearing matching ties.

Money can't buy him love. NY Daily News. Wee PHOTO.

Friars roast The Donald. NY Newsday. PHOTO.

'Apprentice' Star Donald Trump Gets 'Roasted'. Reuters.


'Apprentice' contestant to use boardroom analogy Columbia Basin Herald. Kwame speaks in Washington state next Thursday night, the 21st. Interview w/some new info.

Reality U, class of '04. Toronto Star. Jen C. and TA producer, Rob LaPlante, are mentioned and quoted.

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The Good Ship Apprentice. OnlyPunjab.com

In case you missed it, Raj was featured on VH1's "Best Week Ever." In a sea of forgetable guys and bitchy girls, the Z-rated commentators have found their focus.

Flipping through channels last night I caught MSNBC asking Nick and Amy, seperately on satellite, about the lastest episode. Nick blamed it all on the men's designer, which is bull because wasn't the team the one doing the designing, and anyway they were sunk on the prices. Everyone drooling over the models and Raj getting in Ilsa's way probably took up valuable time as well. Nick is an ass. But, both Amy and Nick picked Stacy R. as the next to go. It's official, everyone hates her.

Whoops!

I think you mean Stacy R. And Nick does hate her. He as much said so in his last couple of commentaries. In fact, he's been right nasty about her. Who knew I'd find my Nick-lurve in the second season?

There's a very long article about Trump and the people he's fired in this week's Soap Opera Weekly (we get ours a bit later in Canada, so it might be last week's if you're in the States). I don't think I'm allowed to type it all here, as it's copyrighted, but if anyone is interested, I'll send it to you over email. It's very interesting. It's an interview with both Trump and Mark Burnett.

The basic thrust of the article is the firing of Stacie J. and a discussion of her 'craziness.' And then each of the fired people, up to Jenn C., I think, say what they think of being fired. Very interesting!

Is this what you are referring to? Soap Opera Weekly

From Jenn C.'s comments:


Boy, completely not self-aware, is she? The irony is staggeringly hilarious.

The more I hear from Jenn C the more I think she completely deserved to get fired from her job. That girl is nothing but an ignorant loudmouth who is desperately looking for attention. That girl showed up at the Gen Art party like nothing had happened and proceeded to jutt out her lips and breasts for the cameras. Seriously, Jenn C, go away. Maybe spend more time looking for career advice and finding a job and less screwing your Apprentice-mates and posing for the camera.

While reading JennBangs nuggets of wisdom, I had a change of heart. After her comment, "My family is Jewish, for Christ's sake!" I realized her inability to shut her pie-hole has its own rewards.

ETA - Ah, Knid beat me to it... though I notice the quote is no less stirring, and no less beautiful the second time around- but yeah, Jenn's a jackass.

Yes, there is nothing redeeming about her in my mind. She has a funky personality and is an idiot as well. Definitely as delusional as Omarosa was.

Hah Vernicious Knid I read it and copied that to come and paste. What a fucking idiot. She is unbelievably lacking in even the hint of a clue.

Quidtempusest
, thanks for that link! No, that wasn't what I was talking about, but it was a good read. Soap Opera Weekly has their print publication and then their online counterpart. Their extra features, and this would be an example of that, have some overlap but the online version has different details. What is in the print publication is an interview with Weekly, Trump, and Burnett. The second part in the print publication is more like what you linked to in the online version, although they are different too.