Sorry Mama Tiger, I thought it would be non-pay, you can get a free trial subscription to check it out in full (link`s at broadcastingcable.com front page). Key points: George says he wasn`t paid for the first season, nor this one and would like to be compensated in the future. Says that the shooting schedule crazy (nights, weekends) and that shooting was more uneasy for season 2 because people were paying closer attention to you (they know who we are, etc.) wherever you shot. Donald listens to his adivce on & off the show. Thinks Bill Rancic`s a talent who`ll go far.

I like Stacey J, but it seems that at times she is just clueless. Contradicting the GM at a press conference is not too bright.

Eww... The thought of Smeagal & Co getting down and doing the nasty with the Mosaic boyz is kinda gross...

Hmm... I wonder who the hook-ups will be? Smeagol & Andy - both are small, yappy and annoying. Elizabeth & Wes - she's a helpless crying damsel in distress and he's the misogynist who wants to dominate her. Ivanna & Maria - they made a connection on day 1 and there's some chemistry there. John & Chris - Chris did say John was the best-looking guy and he can certainly appreciate a good ass.

That NY Post article about Jenn C was quite brutal, but, I suppose, it's to be expected. There were similar articles last year about Omarosa and her shakey employment history. Oh, and "Gucc pooch"? That was funny...

Is Raj married? I'm guessing Elizabeth and Raj because of his sympathetic comment to her after the Stacie J dismissal. But I'd rather see two of the guys fall in love than have any of them stuck with the women of Apex.

re: George. I think he's right that he should be drawing extra "talent" pay for his work on the Apprentice. If Trump is getting $1 million per episode now (as talent, not including all that he's raking in as executive producer), George and Carolyn (and Bill) surely deserve generous salaries as well. Not only do they always appear with him (and have to suffer the 3-5 hour boardroom meetings), but they also give up time to check out how the events are going (possibly adding more pressure to their regular workload).

I hope Trump realizes that appearing in his television show is NOT just an extension of their day jobs. That would be both unfair and cheap, especially given the huge financial success it's become for him.

Heidi Bressler Gets In On The Commentary Game

I think she either filled in for Omarosa this week or is replacing her over that the NBC.com site.

Great find, Tashanir! Heidi's comments are much more concise than O's and they're on target somewhat. I disagree with a few things she says, but we're approaching things from such different perspectives that doesn't surprise me much.

This is really funny, especially coming from Heidi.

It's . . . it's hysterical, really. "Vicious, catty and downright mean." Damn. Girl really does know how to tempt fate.

As much as these women have shown a lot of cattiness, I attribute it more to immaturity and wanting to make a splash for themselves. For the most part, they're failing miserably. But my point is, Omarosa just showed herself to be without a soul. At this point, I would not say that about the Season 2 women. Yet.

Heidi was one of my favorite women during the last season, but I have to wonder if we are watching the same show.

The thing that I liked most about Heidi's commentary is that she said Shrimpy Stacy behaved "very professionally" in the most recent episode.

I haven't seen this mentioned, but this week kinda convinced me that these women actually needed that guy with the stupid impulsive "I give up my immunity" statement. Was he some sort of glue for this team? They won the first task with him leading. They came close on the second task, where he was really a champ selling. Now, without him, they implode. Am I the only one?

Interesting commentary by Heidi. She likes Chris because he swears? Yeah, figures. And she thinks Smeagol was professional? Uh, ok. I guess in Heidi's world; glad I don't live or work there. But seriously, when that head shot of her came up on my screen? I was reminded once again that "She's a man, baby!" [/Austin Powers].

No you're not TVWriterguy. I think Baldford kept them organized and moving at a steady pace. It seems like it's really REALLY easy for them to get boggled down with details that make very little sense. His "Executive Decision" tendancies seemed to get them focused on what was important. The only other person on that team even close to being that sensible is Jen M and it appears that her strategy is to let them self-destruct before she really show her talents. Can't say I blame her.

RFLMAO. You see? It's not everyone else's fault. JenC is a carrier.

Either he was the "glue," or he just gave them all something to agree to hate. This group appears to function best when they have something on which they can focus their collective disdain. First it was Bradford, then it was StacieJ. The truest thing said so far on this show was StacieJ's comment during her cab ride to the effect that now that she was gone, the coven would turn on each other. It wouldn't surprise me if next week's task were won by Apex simply because they found a new scapegoat. I'm betting it'll be Pamela (as the outsider), or Stacy, whose bitchery will finally get on everyone's nerves.

If it's Stacy, she better pray that Apex wins the task after this week's, because she won't last another loss once the coven picks her to be their awful sacrifice. Apex doesn't lose members to poor performance so much as it serves them up for Trump to munch on. And I'm still waiting for Trump to notice, dammit.

An interview with Stacie J on blackamericaweb.

"Ivana is a minority, but she identifies more with Caucasians," said Stacie. "She doesn't identify as Asian. I just consider her like the rest of them. She has a Caucasian name, a Caucasian fiance. She doesn't relate with her Asian roots. Her socializations are Caucasian."

Wow. I don't know what to say about that quote. I'd like to cut Stacie J. some slack considering how she was treated, but that's a pretty prejudicial thing to say herself. It may be an observation, but it comes off really really really badly.

Niiiice. If that quote was in the context of the other women being nasty and obnoxious, it would be fine. But in the context of race it comes off as prejudiced and patronizing.

The fact that the rest of Apex is white has nothing to do with how stupid or unprofessional they are, just as them being women doesn't either.

Don't fuck up the goodwill you have earned Stacie.

Hunh, I take that to mean that she would have expected empathy based on the fact that both she and Ivana were minorities, but that Ivana was "corrupted" or whatever by the Heathers.

I don't understand why these comments upset her, unless she felt they were being insincere or kissing up.

Stacie J interview

Being the lone black woman in close quarters with eight other women also created a natural scenario for feeling like the odd-woman out. "It was apparent on the second day of filming that they had formed their alliance with each other," said Stacie. "They made a lot of references to my physical appearance, saying things like, 'I love your hair. I love your clothes. You're so skinny. I love your body.' It shows their insecurity."

GEORGE: SHOW ME THE MONEY NY Post. Pretty much the same as previously reported.

IT'S OFFICIAL: 'APPRENTICE' REALLY FIRED NY Post.

Liz Smith mentions TD's fragrance in her column today. NY Post

'Apprentice' 101: Take pointers from Apex on what not to do as part of team Seattle Post-Intelligencer. The sports analogy review writer returns.

Reality bites twice. The Star-Ledger. Commentary.

Previously On... The Apprentice Inside Pulse. I ran across this while looking to see if Nick's commentary was up. Recap. Some inaccuracies. Nowhere near as good as Miss Alli's recaps. Frankly, no comparison.

Patented comb-over finally has brush with fame. Orlando Sentinel. Free registration. Remember the story I posted a few days ago about the Ig Nobel Prize going to the father and son team who patented the comb-over? This is a much more in depth article on the topic and The Hair is, of course, mentioned. PHOTOs and GRAPHICs.

So, according to Stacie, anyone with an Asian background is supposed to act and "socialize" in a particular way or else they're not really Asian?

Fuck you, Stacie.

TA Season 1 starts showing in Israel October 13. Jerusalem Post.

God, have you checked out the forums for Season 3 of America's Next Top Model? Because what you said is precisely what most posters are saying about one of the contestants (in this case, though, she's black), and it pisses.me.off. The funny thing is, the people who are so up in arms and saying that she doesn't "act black enough" are mostly black.
So...topic?
I'm willing to give Stacie the benefit of the doubt, regardless, because I think she was explaining her disappointment with Ivana's bitchy actions and willingness to sacrifice her to the Heather gods. Just MHO obviously.

Not just topic. Slagging posters in other forums is COMPLETELY not cool, just as much as it would be if you did it there.

If the mod of another section would not appreciate your comments about what's going on in that section, I don't appreciate them either.

Don't do that.

TOPIC.

Sorry about that, Miss Alli. I (and several others) have said pretty much the same thing over there, but I guess I was wrong in thinking that it was a related issue to what Stacie's comments have brought up.


Firmly on the topic of the show, and media mentions:
Carolyn is on The Today Show this morning and she said that Jenn C. is "blaming the editing process" for the way she came out looking on the show, but as Carolyn pointed out, they can't edit in something that wasn't there. She went on to say that she's "not sure what (her employer, Douglas Elliman) was thinking" by firing her and that she's sure Jenn is having a rough time.
They moved on to talk about Carolyn's book after that.
Not too much content, but at least now we've heard directly from a Viceroy regarding the issue.

ETA Katie switched the conversation back to the show, and got Carolyn talking about the women. Katie asked her about being harder on the women, and Carolyn basically said they've been in the boardroom so much that it was hard not to be hard on them; she also said that she thinks they're using it as an excuse. She also touched a bit on the "use of sexuality" topic with regard to the women (but not the men) but my phone rang and I didn't hear it that clearly.

*sorry, double post*

Sorry posted in wrong area.

Wow, I wouldn't have thought that. George absolutely deserves his share! Carolyn gets far more attention from fans and reviewers, but I for one would love to see more George.

NYCynthia to pick up on the Today Show interview, where you dropped, Carolyn seemed definitely incensed and a bit disturbed by the overt and consistent use of the women's sexuality in Season 1. She made the comment, that she was looking for more brain-power from the women in this season, which I inferred to mean from the casting of the women. I wanted Katie to follow-up with the question, "Did you get it?". No such luck. Carolyn did mention at least twice that she was disappointed in the women's inability to even get-along with one another. Lots of rambling about the genesis of the book, her family, blah, blah, blah. Loved Katie's snark about "...I can see you're capitalizing on the success of the show, too...".

Passing comment...Carolyn was wearing a short skirt, and although seated, she looked extremely skinny. I had never noticed how slight she is.

She appeared with George on Jay Leno shortly after the first season ended, wearing a lovely black dress and way high stiletto pumps. She was very lovely, but incredibly thin. Her shoulders were bared, and her collarbones positively jutted out from her shoulders. Her arms and legs were sticks.

The pantsuits she usually wears on the show hide her slight frame very well and show her figure to great advantage; without the 'padding' of a tailored jacket and pants, she'd look emaciated.

Jen C was on the View this morning. She said there is whole lot more to the story than what was shown on TV. She went on to talk about how half of her family is Jewish and how she was from NY and was simply speaking like a New Yorker. When asked if the women were truly Jewish, she said she spoke to the two ladies outside the restaurant, and she said they were like SNL's Coffee Talk. She said she learned she was fired from The NY Post. She made a big sappy apology to America for what she said.

I wish she had appeared on a different show, because The View's questions and approach were, as usual, very wimpy.

Unfortunately, Jenn C or SheBangs, gave the non-apology apology. You know, I'm sorry if what I said offended anyone. It's pretty clear that it offended a lot of people. Her company fired her over it. And she says IF it offended anyone. *sigh* They never learn.

Yeah, and also it's too bad she didn't think of that like...the day after it aired.
Tool.

ETA: for what it's worth, Coffee Talk was a blatant caricature of Mike Myers' real-life mother in law. And she really IS exactly like that, she's friends with my own mother in law. Who is also just like that. Heh.
But the two little ladies in the restaurant? Totally weren't.

Gah. She still. Doesn't. Get It. She basically said, "I based my opinion of these women on a comedy skit that was a blatant stereotype and caricature of Jewish women." She'll never learn.

You hit the nail on the head with that one, Donatella. It's a bit like pushing someone down a flight of stairs and then saying, 'I'm sorry if that hurt you.' Jen C. is wack.

It's definitely the "I'm sorry I got caught and am now in trouble" apology, rather than the "I'm really sorry that I hurt you" type. Which is typical.

Stacey interviewfrom BAW:


This insecurity comment from a woman whose age depends upon the article or website you're reading.

Great Post Article:


I thought they were looking for a reason, any reason, to can her obnoxious self.

No they weren't at all. From the snippets we were shown, they did not sound anything like the caricatures shown on SNL's Coffee Talk. There was nothing distinctive at all about they way their spoke, except perhaps, that they sounded like they were from New York.

In terms of "descriptors", all I saw were two elderly women, average build for their age, with blonde permed-looking hair...I think one was wearing a blue dress. That is all. However, Jenn C surmised that they were "fat", "Jewish", "bat ladies" and "JAPS" (in selected broadcasts).

Actually, hearing her suddenly describe how sweet these old ladies were on The View made her comments look even more vicious.

It bugs me how Jen C. keeps using the reasoning that she's Jewish to defend herself in this case. It doesn't matter what she is - she still made offensive, stereotypical remarks! No, I don't think she's an anti-semite, but I still think she's a moron.

Jen C is not Jewish. They asked her about her family on The View and Jen C clarified that her mother's first husband is Jewish. Therefore, she has members in her extended family who are Jews, but, Jen C, herself, is not in any way a Jew.

Actually, I thought the ladies on The View did NOT give her an easy time. They really kept on her ass about the situation and I liked that. I thought they raked her over the coals. Yes, JennC. is full of shit because:

1. She is NOT Jewish, and having Jewish relatives does not the Jew make. She's like Tim-the-Dentist on Seinfeld who converted to Judiasm and started making "Jew Jokes".

2. She is NOT a "New Yorker". She is from ALBANY people! ALBANY! Have you ever BEEN to ALBANY? It may be the capital of the great state of New York but its more like the rest of NY State... PO-dunk!

3. She makes ignorant comments, then claims she meant nothing by them.

4. Good for Elliman for getting rid of her. I feel no pity for her because after all this, she STILL doesn't get it.

ETA: Thanks pinkgodzilla - that was what I was trying to remember but I thought it was worse than it apparently was...

If you're talking about the show, she never made any "Jewish reference" to Stacy. Whose name, incidentally, is "Stacy." If you're talking about a reference on The View, either say what it is, or don't hint.

If you're going to use something as support for something as inflammatory as "She IS racist," that is as likely as that is to start additional arguing over a horse we've been beating for nearly a week, try to fact-check first.

Miss Alli, I was asking if anyone else remembered anything because although I dont tape this show, I did remember her saying something equally awful about little Stacy and if I was correct, I was hoping someone else would clarify that. If I am wrong about that, as you indicate, then I did not remember that part correctly and stand corrected. Thank you.

As for the racist comment, I am sorry if that sounds really harsh - it is harsh. I am Jewish, from New York and have met my fair share of people who are like JennC., who make comments based on negative stereotypes of a certain race, religion or culture, and then when called on it, say how they dont have a racist bone in their body and how they love and appreciate "diversity" and you just "misunderstood" their comments. In my 43 years of personally experiencing such negative situations, it is pretty much always said from a racially prejudiced perspective. That has been my reality and my comment was said in that context.

She-bangs called and referred to Stacy as a 'Munchkin'. Stacy in discussion with the camera stated she is Jewish and wanted to understand exactly what Jenn. meant by that comment, but there was no footage shown of her telling Jenn C. or anyone else that she is Jewish and that she took offense at the categoriziation.

Sorry, the word "racist" is thrown around a lot these days. There was nothing racist about what Jenn said. It was stupid... closed minded... backward... and even a little ignorant... I even think it was incorrect... but it was not racist.

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I think we should keep in mind that this interview was with a media outlet (blackamerica.web) that self-admittedly approaches everything from a racial perspective. So, no doubt, Stacie J. was being asked a direct question which was framed in a racial way to elicit...yep...a racially-oriented response.

One of the things I've noticed about her since she has exited the show is that she has not played the race card at all (at least from what I've seen and heard). She has, in fact, even seemed to have gone out of her way not to go down this route. I very much respect her for that.

Only speaking for myself, as an Asian (or more specifically, an Asian Fusion), I can understand Stacie J's comments in a way and I'm willing to give her a pass on that one. Generally, you kinda hope that people who are "minorities" would be more sensitive, or at least aware of, racial stereotyping and power differences. Much in the way that I was not surprised that it was Kevin, the only other African-American contestant, and Raj, the only Indian (Fusion!) contestant who seemed the most disturbed by Stacie's firing among the Mosaic men. However, Ivanna's involvement only goes to prove that even "minorities" can be vicious dumbasses.

I personally did feel that the women, including Ivanna, played into some negative archetypes about Black women in their gang banging of Stacie J. Even though I was not a fan of Stacie J, the manner in which the women swarmed her and branded her a "crazy" woman so successfully with Trump really disgusted me.

You know that didn't bother me as much as the Apexiennes trying to use another more specious stereotype of the violent black archetype. That is where I felt there were some racial overtones. I think they appealed to base stereotypes possibly out of desparation, but it was still disgusting nonetheless. If they had snuck with odd/weird behavior, then my flag would not have gone up. The fact that they went all "Birth of a Nation" on Stacie, definitely made me take notice.

Okay kids, more media listings for your Monday afternoon.

Black Enterprise's recap/review. I nearly forgot. There's a find the glaring error game for this review. Find the mistake and get a gold star!

Richmond Times-Dispatch review of Episode 4. And oh yeah, there's a mistake in this one too. Minor, but a mistake.

Nick's commentary. Inside Pulse. Thanks to Layla823.

The sting of 'You're fired!' -- Management specialists decry Trump's ways. Boston Globe.

'Apprentice' leader on women in business - Carolyn Kepcher weighs in on how to get ahead. MSNBC. Chapter One of Carolyn's book. There is also VIDEO for anyone who missed Carolyn on Dateline last night.

What's Up With That Associate on "The Apprentice?" NY Lawyer.

People article on Jen C's IRL firing. As usual, I'd be grateful if a subscriber would recap. Thanks in advance!

Ereka's latest gig. BUSINESS WIRE.