Fooey. Amy's face is NOT that fabulous. I don't think she's anything special.

Empress1, yes, the new issue of People is out ("Most Beautiful" issue) - I bought mine on Saturday.

Re gawker.com - the shoot date is May 10th, so I'm guessing that this is casting for a commercial and not for the show itself.

I think Amy is quite cute, especially with the curly hair and a nice smile. I put her in the Meg Ryan category. Oh, well, personal preferences and all that...

Anyway, what I really wanted to say is, maybe Amy just doesn't understand the word "crush". I don't doubt that most of the guys expressed that she was nice-looking or that they liked her as a friend. Maybe in her mind that constitutes a crush.

I agree with others about Amy's comment to Trump about his engagement: it was inappropriate for all the reasons given. What struck me most about the comment though, was that I interpreted it that she seemed to be hurt or jealous. Nick's comment can be overlooked as an somewhat ill-chosen joke, but Amy almost seemed upset that she hadn't stolen Trump's heart like she thought she had. Just my interpretation, though.

ITA. Amy is "cute" in that Meg Ryan sort of way. She is NOT a great beauty like Angelina Jolie or Jessica Alba. There is nothing striking about her, except her annoying voice.

Her comment about Trump having a "crush" on her was stupid. It just made her look jealous and catty. The more I see her post-Apprentice, the more I dislike her. I suspect she may have benefitted from selective editing on the show because she is truly an irritating woman.

Whoa! I stay away from media and the computer for one week and what happens? Trump gets engaged!

Good for him. Good for Melania. It can never be said that Trump doesn't take care of his ex-wives, so Melania wins either way. So good for the both of them. Speculating on their respective motives for marrying each other is iffy at best, but even if it's some mutual marriage of convenience, so what? I'm just SOOOO glad he didn't dump her for Amy. So, so glad! I kept thinking, "He really can't be that stupid, can he?"

Any bets on whether or not Melania is pregnant?

My husband and I were talking about how the various contestants have handled themselves in the media post-show, and I actually caught myself saying:

"Compared to the men, the women are disgusting famewhore slutty hooker bitches."

I'm as surprised as anyone. I never knew I had such strong feelings about it.

Oh, definitely.

The women were catty and didn't work well as a team, which is the stereotypical criticism leveled against women in business. Let's hope that the women in the second show are less there to be eye-candy and flirt with The Hair and more there to interview for a job.

I've had this feeling for a while. It reminds me of myself circa my freshman year in high school, or maybe junior high, when I would think that a boy had a crush on me just because he was being nice to me. And its not that I was conceited and thought I was all that and a bag of chips, I was just too immature to fully understand that boys can be nice to girls and form friendships with them without actually "liking" them. Back then also, the boys that liked you would pull your hair, so I would just think that boys were impossible to understand. I took me a while (like, Oh me god, my sophomore year of high school) to kinda get that guys and girls can coexist, and not everything is about crushes. To understand that, even though I saw when Harry met Sally, just because a guy is nice and kind to me, it didnt mean that he "liked" me.

Amy?!? Is this sounding familiar? Have you made it to your sophomore year yet?

I think the women on TA2 will be more business oriented and less interested in dating the Donald. I imagine the type of women who were interested in the first apprentice would have assumed that the Donald would be a sexist pig, based on his reputation in the media, and would have acted accordingly. To his credit, DT came across as pretty fair on the show and so women who otherwise would never consider working for him might apply.

Bwoop bwoop! Tourette's Syndrome alert! Cases resulting from the watching of reality TV shows are on the rise!

Huh?!

I hope he's being facetious with his "It's about life, dieting and love" comment.

Yeah, I hope he's kidding about the dieting, because whatever he's doing isn't working.


These are grown women, not wayward waifs. If they're not like Carolyn, it's by choice, not because they don't know any better. If Mark Burnett chooses not to cast demure, pearls 'n pantsuits women, it's not the women's responsibility to morph into Carolyn. There are probably thousands of women and men going to casting calls for "the job" and prepared only to bring their brains with them, but that doesn't mean they're getting through.

Troy is still out and about. Not much info, but he spoke at an Idaho women's fair..

An opinion piece on The Donald and Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts from an investment related website The Motley Fool.

ITA, Listen Lady. Though I must add, they really may not know any better, since actually finding a female mentor is harder than one would think, unless you "think outside the box" (I hate that phrase!). I recently read an article in Real Simple (around January, I think) about professional women and their female mentors...in some cases, the mentor was younger than the mentee, or outside of their race, or outside of their profession.

The Season 1 women may not have even known that having a mentor was a really great way to figure out what to do and what not to do in professional life. It just seems to me that many of the Season 1 women may not have even known how to find their way out of a box, much less think outside of one (yeah, I'm looking at you, Jessie!).

Can't disagree with ya. Someone made the point upthread that maybe people entered into this competition in order to break into show business. To me, that is really the only explanation as to why Amy, Ereka, Omarosa and Katrina applied. And by exhibiting such outlandish/fucked up/ drama queen/diva like behavior they seemd to be calling out for all of the TV agents in Hollywood to represent them. I honestly don't think any of the women (save for Heidi, Jessie and Tammy) every really wanted the Apprenticeship to begin with. The level of drama and "conflict" on this series and in post show appearances seems almost staged. How can any smart, savvy , successful professional woman ever think that calling another female contestant a "whore," "Making schmoopy faces with a guy, finger pointing and crying and excuse making would lead them down the primrose path to being a respected business person?

At this point, I really don't think any of the women will reap the rewards that Kwaame, Troy and even Sam will. Katrina is currently being used as nothing more than a blow-up doll that gets passed arounf from party to party. Amy appears to be unemployed since she's a horrible on-camera talent who soends most of her time talking about herself (she should marry Billy Bush.). Last I heard, Ereka was either offered or was contemplating a role in the off-off-off Broadway production of Tony and Tina's Wedding. I can't imagine the work-out video she's "considering" would get the funding since no one seems to be able to tell her or Katrna apart and her bod (which is admittedly fantastic) wasn't something heavily featured on the show when it was airing. Omaorsa? Well, she'll get a few bit parts here or there, but nothing will sustain or stick.

None of these women utilized their 15 minutes well at all because they were too busy competing with each other for attention. Now they "hopefully) have disappeared. Sweet irony, isn't it?

Media Preview - Trump International Hotel & Tower, Toronto Official Project Launch and Opening of Presentation Centre. CNW Telbec (Communiqués de presse), Canada

I have to give them credit for trying to distance the project from the show now that it's an actual business deal. It might be difficult, but I think, business-wise, and for Bill's success, it's the right thing to do.

I wish I could remember who said it, but I remember a quote I read in the newspaper the day after Trump's wedding to Marla Maples. It seemed to be an affair designed to show off what famous people he could get to show up for his wedding, rather than an expression of love between two individuals. I think everyone from Mike Tyson, Larry King & Howard Stern were there. Anyway, someone was quoted as they left the event saying "There wasn't a wet eye in the house". I'm guessing this wedding will be similarly unsentimental and all about the media attention.

Kwame & the tennis star? NY Daily News. Scroll down.

Colleges Ban Affimative Action Because of Omarosa. The Spoof, UK. Satire.

This isn't really media, but it contains info on several of the Apprentices, so didn't know where else to put it...

Someone from FORT went to the White House Correspondents Dinner. Here are the details .

That poster at FORT said she saw Nick at the WHCD. That's news. I thought maybe it was a case of mistaken identity, but I checked WireImage and sure enough there he is. There are also some other recent events (listed on left) -- He took a couple pictures with David Lee Roth. Is that significant?


Bwah! Yeah, that's how I feel about her too, FORT poster. In Kwame's thread there are pictures of Katrina at the AAfA American Image Awards posing with him and Carson Kressely. Who the hell made her the belle of the season? She must have a good publicist. I wonder who pays for all the fancy dresses. Is she putting herself and her fiance into debt before they walk down the aisle?

Awwwww.... Carson Kressley lurves him some Kwame! Hee hee...

Actually, Katrina and Kwame look really cute together. She's a dead ringer for Celine Dion.

I was surprised to see Katrina and Bill posing together...especially after all those things she said about him banging Amy after the show. I guess all is forgiven.

Nick and David Lee Roth? That sounds about right. Both washed up has-beens.

I may have agreed with you, djmama, if the year was say, 1972. Since that time, though, many women have risen to various levels of success without dressing like sluts and acting like carping teenagers whom the women of the Apprentice could have looked up to.

All of these women we are discussing went to college, and have worked in jobs of responsibility for a variety of companies. I do not see how it is possible in 2004, with their backgrounds and experiences, that these young women would never have known a dignified, well-dressed, intelligent, ambitious woman they could get a clue from. I am almost 43 years old and could name dozens of women I've known over the past 25 years who were excellent role models for me in all levels of business, as well as in college. Sorry, I'm not buying the idea that they don't know any better because they've never been exposed to good role models.

Mega-word, RealityCreator! I'm also in my mid-40's and have always been able to find good mentors, even in some very male-dominated industries that I've worked in (and despite working in some very small companies).

Now, if folks like us - who entered the workforce when there were indeed fewer women at high levels - could find mentors, I know folks like the women on the show could. Plus, nowadays female execs are so much more visible that I can't imagine Amy or any of them not seeing or meeting women to emulate. And there's no excuse for their dress choices - I don't know a single person in the job market today that thinks dressing like a skank is going to help you move up the corporate ladder!

Reality Creator, I am also in agreement that there was no excuse for these women's style of dressing and behavior. Even if they never personally had a mentor, they all had Carolyn to observe. Carolyn already had the type of job they were after, so they definitely should have studied her demeanor and dress.

The women were so competitive with each other, I wouldn't be surprised if the skirts got even shorter once they arrived at Trump Tower and got a chance to see each other's wardrobe. I can see a scenario where a couple of the women had on mini-skirts, and the others thought, "I'm not going to be outdone. I'm as sexy or sexier than so-and-so. She's not going to look hotter than me on TV."

Or maybe they all determined that they wanted to look "hot" on TV from the start, failing to realize that their clothes and attitudes came across more as sleazy in context of competing seriously for the top job. They may also have believed, based upon his reputation, that Trump would be more inclined to favor them if they were were sexy and flirtatious. One week with Carolyn should have disabused them of that notion.

It will be interesting to see how many of Season Two's contestants learn from the mistakes made in the post show media blitz, as well as on the show itself.

Believe me, I'm not trying to be any of the Apprentice-wannabee's apologists. I was just as irritated by and ashamed of their behavior as the next woman.

In my own career, I've found precious few women in management to emulate (I'm in an extremely male-oriented company), and my own mentor is male. Has he taught me anything? Yes. Is there more for me to learn? Yes. Would it have been better if he were female? Maybe...I'm just happy I have him.

IMHO, I think the women were cast as a direct contrast to Carolyn. I don't think they know anything about looking for the right mentor/following advice of such mentor/thinking to themselves, "Hmm, what would my mentor do if they were in this situation?" It appears that it simply has not occurred to them.

They acted as if they were as dumb as boxes of rocks, and I really don't care if I see any of them again. If TA2 has copycats of the Season 1 women, I will not watch it. I just don't have time for it. And that's all I gotta say about the matter!

djmama, I don't think I'll be able to take another season of TA1 copycats, either. I never thought about the women being cast in contrast to Carolyn. That could very well be true. But even if it wasn't a deliberate attempt on the parts of the creators of the show, that's certainly how it came off.

If the women of TA don't have a real life mentor, even a fictional character like Tess McGill from the movie "Working Girl" was more professional than the Season 1 women. Tess started out a bit rough around the edges, but she had business smarts and a drive to succeed. Although her boss Katherine Parker later turned out to be the Boss from Hell, Tess was smart enough to emulate her classy, professional demeanor. And though Tess made some errors along the way, she did strive to get ahead based on her brains. I won't even quibble about her short skirts, because she topped them with polished looking jackets and low keyed accessories, and looked nowhere near as slutty as the Apprentice women.

I can even forgive Tess for getting involved with Harrison Ford's character Jack Trainer during their business deal, because it was a movie, and after, all it was Harrison Ford! But even within that romance (which Tess initially tried to resist) she always focused on business first, never trying to use her sex appeal to influence him.

Even old Katharine Hepburn movies like Adam's Rib show a business woman with infinitely more style and professionalism than the Apprentices.

Oh my! Now that I am making comparisons with movie characters, I am definitely obsessing too much about this issue.

It's possible that many, most, or all of them came off very well during the casting process - self-assured, professional, secure - and that these impressions crumbled the moment the women got together and fed on each others' cattiness, short fuses, etc. (and before the producers requested that they have "wardrobe approval").

Donald Trump And Queen Elizabeth II Collaborate On New Book; Book Sets New Record For Advance Sales. The Spoof UK. These seem to be getting better. Scary.

Donald Trump not around to launch new condo-hotel project in his name. Canoe, Canada. Bill and Don, Jr. were there, however.

Wow! Donald Jr. is kinda cute.

Wow, he is. But it looks like he has some unfortunate hair. Perhaps it's genetic?

Yea! Definitely some kind of chromosomal deletion.

Nick made Page Six without Amy! NY Post. Photo.

CREEPY SECRETS OF REALITY TV. NY Post. A couple of TA bits, one being the suitcase exits being pre-taped.

Wow, that picture of Nick with his mouth open is scary.

From TV Guide:

PLAYBILL ON OPENING NIGHT: Prymate Tackles Issues, Poses Challenges. Playbill.com Kwame was there! Photo. The reporter was snarky about Kwame's presence. Hmph.

from the ENQUIRER...

Omarosa's Husband to Dump Trump Villainess?
Wednesday May 5, 2004


Her hateful, lying ways lost Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth a job with Donald Trump and probably killed her dreams of stardom -- but now she may lose her marriage! Insiders say hubby approved of her "Apprentice" stint -- but is threatening divorce if she doesn't get back home pronto! That hasn't stopped Ogre-rosa -- she hired a manager and a publicist to slow her ticktockin' 15 minutes of fame.

Cool... so we know it's true!

Why doesn't this surprise me one bit?

Sadly, it looks like Omarosa is going to start sliding a very slippery slope soon if she is not careful.

***New article links added! Scroll to end of list.***

The Apprentice: Its Aftermath: Beth's Take on the Multiple Neuroses of Fame. The Trades. Worth a look.

Friars Club to roast Donald Trump. AP via USA Today.

Life After The Apprentice: Former San Diego Resident Looks To Future. NBCSandiego.com. All about Nick.

NO RUSH TO WED FOR THE DONALD. NY Post.

OMAROSA'S DIRTY LAUNDRY. NY Post. Put this together with the Enquirer story and draw your own conclusions. Will this fool ever give up? Gad.

Katty tossing baseball tonight. Miami Herald. Free registration needed. Scroll to end of article.

NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT... NY Daily News Lloyd' Grove's Lowdown. Scroll down a bit. Hee!

LONG article about Heidi's appearance at Drexel University. thetriangle.org

Raiders tell dispatched Trump apprentice, 'You're hired' SF Chronicle WOW! Nick's doing great!

Aussie article on reality TV. TA recently began airing there and is mentioned about halfway through the article. (I'm trying to convert one of my closest friends who lives in Oz but she's very skeptical about the whole thing. I figure we'll have her by episode 3 or 4. *evil chortle*)

Kristin from E!Online is now using "Omarosa" as a common noun! Hee:

Never mind!

Page Six take on TD's roasting. NY Post

Nick gets a job.

Nick is not working for the Oakland Raiders, despite what news reports have said (which have been posted here). He spoke to FoxNews today and said that despite media reports, he is instead going to work for a publisher of high-end magazines where he'll be selling advertising. Here's the full story:

Story about where Nick is really going to work

Thanks for posting that, BibiBella. Isn't it interesting how so many folks want to get on the publicity machine that is TA?

Let's hope he is better at selling ads than he was selling water. I remember what a total flamout incompetent salesman he was at that task.

I remember him saying in his TA intro "I work on commission. If I don't sell I don't eat" Which to me explains how he stays so slim.

Goodbeletta said:


Dosen't surprise me one bit. The Apprentice was a huge hit, especially later in the run, and with this group (except for maybe Omarosa) comes a lot of good publicity.

I'm sure if Nick did get hired by the Raiders, the folks at CBS (who televise AFC games in the NFL, including most likely six of the Raiders eight home games this year) and FOX (which usually gets the Raiders for the two games they play host to NFC opponents) would maximize on Nick being there (and so would ESPN and/or ABC is they have any Raiders games on Sunday or Monday nights this coming season).

Looks like AP got taken, too, then, since that was an AP report I posted earlier. Silly me, for trusting a major newswire. Sigh.

Edited because "sigh" looks better with an "h" than an "n"