My tv guide says CNN is replaying Larry King Live at midnight (eastern) and 3am

The Smoking Gun says:

Newsweek Newsmakers

Not sure if I did the link right, but the current issue of Newsweek (4/26) has a paragraph on Bill's win, with some mild snark on Trump, Amy and Omarosa. Scroll down past the Janet Dickenson interview!

They all were talking over each other, but I do think I actually heard Amy say something along the lines of "lying again, just lies."

And the moaning crack? Well, it's not as low as calling someone a racist, but still very, very "least classy." I think Assy may have been aiming for "light hearted joke" -- seeing as how Amy had laughed off some of her other foibles (the Stepford wife, comment for example). But, no laughing this off from Amy. I may have seen steam coming from her ears.

I just kept yelling at my TV, "KICK HER AMY! Damn it, you've done it before! Get a good hard kick in for all of us!"

Assy makes me sorry I'm a Democrat.

Neko, did she really say "I should have took" ?



Bwah!

God, I love that Amy has the cojones to take O on. First at Divas Live, then interviewing her for ExtraAccess (sorry, cannot get those straight), and now on LKL. And the beautiful thing is, all she has to do is - tell the truth!

Damn! Damn! Between this and yesterday's news that Dubya is rising in the polls, I think Kerry's goose is cooked. I think he'd be horrified to have that woman speaking on his behalf.

Amy and Bill should confront Omarosa, they seem like the only ones who can stand up to her. I'm smelling a PPV with Amy, Bill and Dr. Phil all venting on Omarosa - would be something to see no doubt.

Omarosa's cackles when the camera wasn't on her were definitely noticable and rude.

Word regarding Amy kicking her. Omarosa doesn't respond to calm rational discussion. So brutal violence looks like the way to deal with her.

Kwame's stated a couple of times in interviews already that everything with Omarora is all in the past for him and he's just moved on with his life. I'm sure he's just had EnoughaRosa! All that stuff with Assy happened over 6 months ago so what's the point of getting into a catfight with her? Plus, he actually has a life outside of Omarosa and he'd rather focus on the future instead of rehashing all these petty and trashy reality TV disputes.


That was just bizarre. I was waiting for them to elaborate but they never quite explained it.


Yeah, it was a scene right out of Heathers. I hate seeing grown women snipe back and forth like that. Obviously they just can't control their inherent cattiness. For two women who 30+, they still act like spoiled bratty 16 year olds. Assy and Amy spent half the show bitching and being catty towards each other. Grow. The. Fuck. Up!


WORD. We got little soundbites from Kwame, Troy and Heidi, but definitely Bill, Omarosa, Amy and Nick took center stage. In Bill's case, rightly so since he's the winner, but WHY did they seat Omarosa right next to him???

Even when Kwame or Troy spoke, I could hear Assy commenting or giggling in the background. At one point, I heard her and Amy giggling, "smile Kwame, smile, hee hee hee", and when Troy was speaking about going to the boardroom, Assy and Amy were laughing over him. It made it hard to hear. These women are incredibly RUDE.

I think they should have interviewed Bill separately in the studio, and brought everyone else in on the feed. Also, the sound was particularly bad. Kwame couldn't hear and he got cut off by this high pitching sound in the end. Heidi lost sound at one point too.

WTF? What was up with Trump's tongue bath of Omaorsa?? Why does this man always PRAISE and compliment her??? WHY??? First on Oprah and now on Larry King. She must have been very good for rating because DT was feeling the lurve for Osama Bin Rosa tonight.

Oh, one shocker: Omaorsa will be working as a paid political consultant for the Kerry campaign.

Bwah!! The Bushies are saying their prayers that she's a Democrat and the Kerry folks are scrambling to keep her away -- after all, they know what kind of backlash Clairol suffered from the anti-Oma's!


choco, I don't think Oma's been hired by the Kerry campaign. I think she said what is in quotes above...indicating that she WANTS to do work for the campaign, not that she's been hired (and she won't be hired, if they're smart).

This is just what she said, right? Like the Clairol thing?

That LKL special was just weird.

1. Loved Bill snapping at Oma and then telling Larry "After I say this, we can just move on because nothing else needs to be explained." Yeah Bill, run the man's show why don't you.

2. Oma is pathetic. I don't like her, I don't hate her. I'm just trying to figure out what the hell went wrong. Was she not hugged as a child? Was she hugged too much? Did her mother give her timeouts when she should have beat her ass. I mean...damn! Oh and Assy doing work for the Democratic party? Bush should send her a check right now!

3. Amy did call Assy a liar to her face. The comment being "There you go with the lies again." What really tripped me out about the whole exchange is that they were insulting each other while wearing these big ass koolaid grins. What the hell is that?

4. Nick - Damn, don't remember him.

5. Kwame - is it me or did he regress? In all of his other interviews, he was laid back, laughing joking the whole nine yards. Tonight? Straight muscle-butt. Weird. However, I do agree with his decision not to get involved in the Assy vs Bill battle. At this point, everybody and their crazy uncle Peaches know that Assy is lying through her teeth. Him saying so would have only given her a platform to make herself seem more important than she really is.

6. Heidi - Thank God she put that green make up to rest (if only for a while).

7. Troy - bless his heart, he's got to be the sweetest person on the show. But the hair implants or whatever the hell he did...creepy. He should stop.

I really think she is down to taking Black people out, first Kwame, now she's gonna get Bush elected.



Or he didn't want to look like a fucking teenager arguing about some dumb show.

Shout out to the Smoking Gun for exposing "Billster's Millions" as another exaggeration in a long long long line of them on this show.

And Amy? Yeah, Omarosa only wanted to do it cause you were doing it.

But still, FUCK Omarosa.

Fuzzy Logic, your re-cap is the best thing I've read on this thread tonight!! And all of it so true and you said it in such a witty way....thanks for the late-night laugh.

Part of me believes he did so because its easier than telling the truth. Which is what Amy and Bill did, and Trump saw how Omarosa acted to that. It's easier just to smile and nod at Omarosa than to actually offer her criticism - because she will try to bite your head off if you do.

It still made me sick. They showed her smiling smugly as Trump lauded her with compliments. He didn't need to praise her that much, IMO! All that does is play into her megalomania. He completely backtracked from the finale by doing that.


WORD! It was 6 months ago. He's moved on, he has a life, he doesn't give a shit about Omarosa. Good for him! Sounds like he's working out a deal with Mark Cuban now where he can still stay based in New York.


Me too. I know he was there in the studio but he was pretty quiet. Did he say anything? I vaguely recall something about being a motivational speaker and practicing hard. Go Nick!


I noticed that too! I think he gets all cold and stoic when he's subjected to hanging out with his "reality TV gang". I don't blame him. I'm sure he's just sick to death of them, especially cackling Omarosa. The look on his face was like a kid on church Sunday being forced to spend all day with his annoying relatives but trying to be polite about it while counting the minutes off in his head.


That was creepy. They were fighting throughout the show, but then they would do this weird affectionate touchy feeling thing where they would sorta hug and Assy would put her head on Amy's shoulders.... I think they are "frenemies".


Muahahahahahaha! Well if she helps Kerry like she helped Kwame, Lord help the man! Four more years of BUSH? If we can find him that is.....Osama Bin Rosa might lose him at the airport.

When I transcribed that, I must have played each line a half dozen times (between trying to get it right, and rewinding to pick up the next lines). But, I just replayed it again (and again and again) and after listening to it this many times, I think she said, "I should've took". Minor nitpick on the contraction, but I definitely heard her say "took". Definitely "took". [/Rainman] Closed captioning was nice and corrected her grammar ("I should have taken lessons from Amy"); but they made so many yooge mistakes, rewording or dropping entire sentences, that I didn't bother with their version of the conversation (not a slam; doing it live is extremely difficult). I definitely didn't want to cut her any slack. Seriously, I've just about broken the VCR rewinding that tape to hear if she ever said "Herbal Essences" correctly. And I was actually nice because she stumbled over "Herbal" the first time. I tried to get it as close as possible, but I may have made a mistake or two. [Rainmain Redux]But definitely "took". Definitely "took".[/RR]

Editted because, when snarking on the abilities of CC to transcribe live TV, it's always nice form to actually complete the sentence. And to actually not use "actual" and "actually" in the same sentence more often than is actually necessary.

I think I've gotten a concussion from rewinding and watching this tape so many times!

Nice little echo 'There you go with the lies again'. Mirrors 'there you go with the racist comments'. I'm not fond of Amy but she stood up to Asso. Who has been told always to smile on camera no matter what.

Oh and by the way: Clairol Press Release

Sorry, serial post

Nice catch. I didn't get that at the time, but if it was a planned move on Amy's part, kudos.

Trump praised Omarosa? On Larry King Live? Today?

Because I saw it as a serious diss. At the very least, a backhanded compliment. One of the "worst compliments" ever in Trump-speak.

Maybe I missed something, but I think I know which part of the show you're referring to (she was great TV, she is unique, etc.) and that was no compliment.

Perhaps Bill's business wasn't worth over a million dollars, but maybe it had posted over a million dollars in revenue. Over a couple of years. And voila, you've got yourself a multimillion dollar business. The amount he got for it is still pretty shockingly low.

Maybe Bill enlisted the help of the world’s most delusional spin doctor to take a look at his business and put her "optimistic" twist on the numbers. And that's why Bill got Omarosa the Herbal Essences gig. Case Closed.

OK, I'm watching LKL right now (I missed the opening bits of it) and Omarosa is so pathetic. When the 'cat fight' over the 'reality' of the show broke out on Larry King, she is sitting there with that smile so tightly plastered on her face that it looks like she's barely hanging on.

I seriously think that's one reason why she did the pageant thing (besides maybe earning some scholarship money which is what they all say): it gives her that plastered-smile-my-world-is-perfect look so that when things are really crumbling inside, she can pretend otherwise. I mean, seriously, there was a flickering moment when she looked like she was going to crack, but instead she plastered the smile on even bigger - and even tighter (if it were any tighter, her face would indeed break). And 'cackled' even louder (her laugh is a very nervous laugh - but then I'm not surprised, she's probalby barely hanging on inside. Boy, I'd hate to be her husband when Mrs. WorldBitch comes home at night and lets all that rage out....).

Very sad and very pathetic.

Edited to add: Larry King keeps calling her "Ama-rosa" instead of "Oma-rosa" - hee! And Oma kept saying the word "expound" as "ex-[i]pond". She think she is the 'most classiest' yet she can't pronounce words correctly.[/I]

And why is it that everyone can admit that they were shown - both good and bad - on the show, but not Omarosa? Oh yeah, she's delusional.

You know, I'd be more pleased with this comment if it wasn't made by someone who blatantly lied on TV herself. Amy...hello...you lied about whose idea the car rental deal was. So shut it.

Neko, that [rainman][/rainman] bit - Bwah!

OK, watching LKL now.

You guys have pretty much covered it, word to everything posted earlier.

But I just have to add about Omarosa - girlfriend is beautiful! Seriously gorgeous! If she only had a Strong Black Woman personality to go with her SBW looks, and would lose the pageant stance, and the pageant-speak, and the annoying ever-present laugh, and psycho smile after she says something bitchy or meaningless or off-topic...she'd really be something.

Sigh...don't hate me because I said she's beautiful.

Oh wait, isn't that a line from a Clairol commercial?

No, it's Pantene. Neeeever mind....

Just saw the bit where Trump offers (via phone live on the show) to pay for Troy's college education at ANY college he gets into - Troy was so moved, you could see tears in his eyes.

Troy really is just the best - a big-hearted, down-to-earth guy...you could hear Kwame in the background saying "There you go, T-roy!"

As for Kwame on the show tonight, maybe he's just tired - he was speaking from somewhere else (Syracuse or Buffalo, NY where he's giving a speech) because he did come off very 'flat' tonight, not as lively and fun as he's been on the recent tour of TV shows. But given the schedule he's been on, I could see him being physically exhausted. And I'd bet some of the re-hashing of what happened, what didn't happen (especially when Omarosa is involved on the show) is verrry tiring. Don't blame him for wanting to 'move on' about that.

Heidi looked great - she laid off the eyeshadow, is wearing bangs which are very flattering - and she came off very well. Came off better than Amy since Amy got into the catfights with Omarosa (Oma seems to have that effect on everyone!)...I could see the total frustration in Amy's face when she got into it with Oma (over the FHM photo shoot thing) and just like Ereka, Amy fell into Oma's lair. That's the tell-tell sign of a real nut - they make everyone go ballistic.

Yeah, I'm seeing that too. It reminds me of a scene in Rush Hour 2 with Chris Tucker:
"We could have had something, we could have been special...but you one crazy ass bitch."

Edited because getting actors names correct makes me the most classiest.

Wow, Amy looked really irritated with Assorama. I didn't see any sort of niceness between them at all. And Amy looked great, too.

Overfocusing on trivial details, but while watching LKL I noticed that Amy, Kwame and Troy share a physical trait which is a bit odd. Their right eyes are significantly smaller than their left eyes. That's their right, left of your screen.

Note to self - get a life!

Serendipity, that's too funny! I looked after reading your post, and yep, they sure do!

And I agree, Omarosa is physically very pretty (although her teeth are too big - kinda like a horse mouth, with an overbite and 'yooge' teeth) but her personality just kills her attractiveness. And Bill's teeth are so big and white, they could put your sight out, LOL!


Gringa, I agree, Amy looked great. I think having to be around Omarosa the last few days (they did the VH-1 Divas Live thing together and now this) probably pushed her over the edge. I could see Amy go on overload angry when Oma was dissing Amy's posing in FHM (doing it in that backhanded way that Oma does that stuff - besides, Amy admitted up front that it was bad judgment on her part), thus Amy lashed out at Oma (and understandably so - plus Oma had just tried to make the show sound it scripted everything so that Oma could blame her 'villain' role on others - but Trump had the last word on that and said that everything was real, no one was coached, it was completely serious business. Bustin' Oma's chops!)

I think they should have changed the seating order: Bill, Amy, Nick and Omarosa at the furthest end. Ideally, she would not even be in the studio cackling over everyone.


Yeah, that's the sad thing. She is actually quite beautiful and her hair and makeup always looks great. But she is still a despictable evil sociopath.


Yeah, she's great TV, she's unique, she'll do great, etc. She was lapping it up. they're all winners, they're a great group of people blah blah. DT did say he was going to be critical of her but after hearing all the nice things she said about him, he changed his mind. He does have a yooooge ego after all. Assy knows how to play him.

Oh, and WORD on Heidi looking pretty tonight. I like that softer look on her. She was also very classy and well-behaved.

On a semi-related note, it was interesting when they broke in with the Michael Jackson indictment news that Donald Trump totally supported Michael Jackson. He said Michael lived in one of his buildings and that he knew everything that was going on there and that Michael did nothing wrong. He said there he believes Michael completely and that the child's mother is a hussler and a liar. Interesting.... Didn't expect DT to leap to Michael's defense like that.

I agree, that was not a compliment to Omarosa. Granted, Trump didn't diss her on air - he's too smart to do that - but he certainly didn't praise her except for 'being great TV'. Of course, Oma will take that as the ultimate compliment.

The rough "rush" transcript of the Larry King Live interview is now posted at CNN.com

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0404/21/lkl.00.html

Most of them were in L.A. with Larry, Kwame was in Buffalo, Troy was in Jacksonville, Heidi was in Las Vegas, and Donald Trump called in from somewhere unspecified.

So that there's no question about the offer Donald made to Troy, I'm going to post just that excerpt in Troy's thread.

So I'm reading the transcript of the LKL talk and Omarosa said:

But they DID show both those things!

I envy the woman's moxie but my goodness... I guess I shouldn't try and make sense out of what's in her head.

FWIW, at least in the transcript, Kwame comes across to me as wussing out more than as truly having moved on--perhaps because I disagree with the reasoning. Omarosa was implying as heavily as she could that her behavior was the result of producer's interference. I think it was important to counter that. It seems a little insulting, too, to Troy and Bill and Amy and Nick, who were all putting themselves out and saying that she's wrong, to say that they're stooping down to high-school reindeer games. I'm also sick of his line about not getting the "reality TV memo" because he could have sidelined her more, even if he didn't fire her.

Word Zuleikha.

That's the main thing I took issue with. Not so much the comment about wanting to move past it, but he didn't have to bring down Troy, Bill et al.

Mega-word. It's like Kwame was afraid to stand up for what was 'real'. It's one thing to want to stay calm and above the fray, but this came off like he was being a wuss and also like "I'm above all this" which was a slap at Bill, Troy, Heidi, Amy and Nick putting themselves out there.

Just one more reason why I think his leadership abilities leave a bit to be desired...leaders have to stand up and not be afraid to take some heat at times.

That's definitely a rough transcript, in that (although what's there seems to be straight-up accurate) a large chunk is missing at the end, beginning at the phone call from Boise. First mistake, it attributes Trump's response to Amy ("Henry"). And you can see where it cuts out:
There's a yooge chunk of the program missing between the asterisks, including the part where Larry asks each of them what they're going to be doing now (one small segment of which I have quoted extensively earlier in this thread). Seriously, at least 10 minutes I think.

Or, I made it all up due to my concussion (yes, I do plan to work this "concussion" for all it's worth; just wait until my next performance review!). Or, I'm slowly moving into Dramarosa's alternate reality. I will be looking forward to the complete transcript, just so I know I'm not now having hallucinations about these people.

Word. Kwame irritated me too. It's one thing to bitch at a bitch-- but it's totally another thing to clear the record, and it looks like he just couldn't be bothered to do so.

But then, on the show, he constantly all but flops to the ground and exposes his belly when dealing with confrontation or controversy. He seems to run on a pattern of "non-interference"-- which I don't think bodes well for a future as a leader or manager.

And also... yes. Amy looked amazing last night, at least 10x better than in that crappy, cheap ass FHM shoot. And I loved the way she kept sniping back at Omarosa, who really did deserve it. Some people may call it juvenile. I call it ridiculously entertaining. Not to mention, exactly what I would have done in her place and after her experience with Omyheadhurts. Omarosa is the sort of person who deserves public humiliation once in a while, and I saw Amy as a sort of agent in enforcing that clause. God bless her.

Wordy-word. He's so non-confrontational that he's likely to be unable to confront tough things when they arise in a business, like a really difficult client or employee.




Absolutely, amen! Even Troy and Heidi -- who were on the show from remote locations and not in the studio with the rest of 'em - could be heard supporting Amy, Bill and Nick in their response that nothing was scripted or 'coached'. And Trump said so at the end, completing squashing Omarosa's lies.

I'd love to have been there to see what Amy did or said to Oma when that interview was over!

One last thing: when Larry King brought up all the lies, etc. to Omarosa (and asked her how it felt to be 'so hated'), you could already tell what he thought of her - he was half-way rolling his eyes and looked disgusted to even have to speak to her. Finally, an interviewer who at least visually (IMO) showed total disdain for Liar-rosa and didn't kiss up.

I disagree. (Shocking, I know. ;) ) It seemed to me that Kwame was referring to Omarosa's behavior during the interview as "high-school reindeer games", and he was right. Indulging her petty bullshit only gives her more of a chance for her to talk over people and put words in their mouths--which is exactly what she did to Bill. Who eventually ended up saying the same thing that Kwame did: can we just move on. There's no reasoning with someone who won't admit or has no clue they're being unreasonable--it only gives her exactly what she wanted--more attention. Though it may be satisfying for us, part of Kwame's class comes from his refusal to bitch and moan and get personal. Although, when you think about it, he did imply that Omarosa resides in the bowels of reality television, and he wasn't going to allow her to drag her down with him. He just said it in a way that didn't give Omarosa the opportunity to try to impugn his credibility the way she tried to with Bill (saying that he was reading from a script and the like.)

The way she was dressed, Heidi could have done the LK show nude and we wouldn't have noticed.

I think I kind of understand where Trump's coming from when he waffles on Omarosa. His personal and professional lives have been criticized so heavily in the press -- justified or not -- that when he sees someone else coming under heavy fire that way, maybe he sympathizes. He knows Omarosa is a liar; he made sure that was clear on the final episode; but when he sees one person being singled out for criticism on camera -- again, justified or not -- he probably thinks, "Gee, I know what that's like, and it sucks."

That would explain his defense of Jackson, too. Rich guy who does things his own way, hounded by the media: there's a natural affinity there. If you've ever been interviewed or profiled by the press, you know that they usually get some small details wrong at least, if not everything. Someone like Trump, about whom so many people have pre-conceived notions and whose life contains a lot of tabloid fodder anyway, probably decided a long time ago to never believe anything he reads about anyone -- and to suspect it's false more strongly the more the press insists it's true.

Not that I'm defending Jackson for a second; I think he's guilty as sin. I just can see why Trump would be inclined to.

One thing tho'. Larry asked Trump if he thought all the candidates would succeed--it was unclear whether he meant all 16, or all the candidates who were there on his show. Trump said no. He didn't think they would all do well. There were people who might not do well at all. (I can't remember the verbatim exchange but it might be on the transcript). I thought at the time that it was a clear reference to Asso. Possibly they had been discussing her just before this.

Edited to reflect the following post

Heidi, to her credit, said exactly that. She felt she had been fairly and accurately portrayed and had no 'editing' problems at all.

Assy says they weren't accurately portrayed on the show; everyone else says they did a pretty fair job. A tape of the LKL show last night pretty much proves Assy wrong. Every one of the 7 on there seemd to reinforce who I already felt they were (from watching TA).

Assy: Crazy, lying delusional bitch who attempts to get in a fight with everyone.
Heidi: Practically shirtless, in Las Vegas, feisty, potty-mouthed Heidi.
Troy: Sweet, funny, and so grateful for the opportunity he's been given.
Nick: A little slick with the Bayonne talk, but ultimately, nothing memorable
Amy: Overly chipper in a head-cheerleader sort of way, but the one I liked best for really trying to stick it to Assy.
Kwame: Above the fray, laid back
Bill: Trying to keep everything business-like, also trying to stick it to Assy.

If how they were on LKL is a fair representation of who they really are, then I think MB and Co. got it just right in the show's editing.

I'm not sure if this has been posted, but it is the article about Clairol possibly dumping Assorama. TWoP is metioned in it (yay!). Enjoy
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4609983/

Fans want to wash Omarosa
right out of their hair

Reality-TV fans have a message for Clairol: Fire Omarosa!

On heels of the news that the hair-care company is considering featuring her in commercials for Herbal Essence, Omarosa haters are bombarding the company with calls and e-mails, as well as organizing a boycott of Clairol products.

“It has been evident that this person is manipulative and deceitful, and [it] reflects poorly on the Clairol Company to employ such a despicable character,” noted a typical posting in a TV chat room. “I will no longer buy their products, and will encourage family, friends and colleagues to not purchase their products, as well.”

On Television Without Pity.com, the emotions were running high. “If the Omarosa path is one Clairol wishes to go down, there are so many other ‘love to hate’ people,” one poster wrote. “What about Hitler? Imelda Marcos? Ted Bundy? (VERY nice hair!)”

Clairol is taking the threats seriously. Helene Leslie, spokeswoman for the company, told The Scoop. “We are concerned about the proposed boycott of our products and are currently looking into the situation.”

Ah, yes. I just love arrogant, condescending, self-righteous people that make no sense. You know, I'm a person that uses more complicated language frequently because I've read a lot ever since I was a kid, and I had to learn that people never really say "incredulous". Assorama uses "big" words just to use them and often makes no sense. Heh.

smileybugs, you should probably get acquainted with the FAQ's (go to top of page and you'll find the link) since it's against the board rules to post an article in full as you did (copyright infringement stuff) and I think also to post something that's been posted (as a link) on this thread already.





LizzieDarcy, I also hate when people speak this pageant-type talk ("I want to be Miss World because I want to promote world peace and harmony...").

Everyone else on the show last night talked "normally" when asked why they went on the show, but Omarosa went into her formal, pageant-ese talk. Plus she kept pronouncing the word "expound" (ex-pound) as "ex-pond". As you said, she uses big words, but even when she uses little words, she can't pronounce them correctly.

Here's another inadvertently funny article about Nick (who's been taking lessons in self-hyperbole from DT and Omarosa):

The most famous photocopier salesman of all time

Donald call in to Regis and Kelly the other day to take issue with Reege saying that he thought stuff on the show was made-up. Of course the Donald said that everything is 100% real, which we know is not hte case from examples such as the Apartment task. I wish that they would own up to this a bit, at least, because then you could make the distinction that while some things aren't as they appear (didn't the doissier on the high-price real estate task indicate it was 2 days, though they make it look like one on the show)-- all the contestants actions are theirs alone and are as they happened. This would put the mole theory to rest (it's hard for people to 100% believe DT and MB's denials when some other interference is not owned up to) and allow everyone to finally come to the conclusion that Omarosa is completely incompentant, and as horrid as she appeared on the show.

Best bit out of that article, archer?

So I'm assuming that this was London, Ontario,and not London, England?

Rabrab, yes, this guy is in London, Ontario.