archer1267
Feb 25, 2004 @ 11:20 am
I had a concussion due to my serious injury on the set and spent nearly . . . 10 hours in the emergency room.
I thought it was
18 hours originally? In the next interview, will she say "6 hours" until, with each interview given, we get closer to the real time of 45 minutes in the ER?
Also, at her alma mater she admitted that she has "an attitude problem." So which is it? Unfair editing or no?
The Last Dodo
Feb 25, 2004 @ 2:11 pm
"...in fact I had a concussion due to my serious injury on the set and spent nearly . . . 10 hours in the emergency room. It's all in the editing!"
Why would I not be surprised if the ellipsis in that statement replaced a series of "...would you believe..."s?
networkinggirl
Feb 26, 2004 @ 10:04 am
Great Article about Omarosa in thr Arizona Republic.
"Reaction to brassy 'Apprentice' contestant bares racial unease"
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/a...allworth26.html
flotsette
Feb 26, 2004 @ 10:07 am
DariaG
Feb 26, 2004 @ 10:17 am
"Reaction to brassy 'Apprentice' contestant bares racial unease"
Good grief! I wish these twit media analysts would quit trying to make this a racial issue. Assy is an Alpha Bitch who just happens to be black. I'd hate her in any color.
networkinggirl
Feb 26, 2004 @ 10:22 am
Okay, here's what I have to wonder.
One would think that if this woman who rented the Protege apartment had actually been given any sort of "off-camera" promise or deal, then she would have been asked to sign some sort of confidentiality agreement and a release.
While I don't doubt that there has been some line crossing going on on this show, I have to question the story from this writer who rented the apartment.
Could it be that the original, lower price that she agreed to was STILL a great mark-up from the base rent? Would the landlord agree to rent the apartment for a lower price BEFORE he saw the rennovations that the "team" (let's be real, the network) had done? If the landlord negotiated a certain price with the woman before the apartment was turned over to the network, wouldn't you think that he would see the potential for greater rent after the rennovations were done and therefore holdout for someone willing to pay more rent?
OR...
If the landlord did agree to rent the aprtment for the original price negotiated, d'ya think he agreed to keep it at teh lower price as a way to ....ummm..persuade her to keep her trap shut? If she's a writer, a reporter, wouldn't he have to do a reference check on her when checking her creidt? If so, then if there was something really unethical going on, wouldn't it make sense NOT to rent the aprtment to or an involve A REPORTER in the transaction?
I smell a rat...and I think it's the writer.
flotsette
Feb 26, 2004 @ 11:05 am
One would think that if this woman who rented the Protege apartment had actually been given any sort of "off-camera" promise or deal, then she would have been asked to sign some sort of confidentiality agreement and a release.
Well, you're right about that. That does seem strange.
Apartment rental credit checks in my area (Seattle) never include general background checks. Just your credit in terms of apartments only. YMMV.
But I must say I thought the entire task was weird. I don't know a ton about apartment rentals in NYC, but I've never heard of anyone who makes a business of renting apartments, fixing them up, and then essentially subletting them at a higher rate. I don't know why the landlord would allow such a business; it doesn't seem favorable to him. To me, it seemed like a very made-for-reality-tv kind of task.
Roark13579
Feb 26, 2004 @ 11:45 am
I just assumed that nothing that went on in this episode was actually binding; that after the cameras left, the producers explained what was going on to the 'renters' and told them they'd have to deal with the real landlord to actually rent the place. I'm not sure why I thought that, since most of the other tasks have been 'real' -- people really did buy the lemonade and the shirts with ribbons, and the auction winners really did get and pay for what they bid on.
Maybe it's because renting an apartment is a much longer-term commitment than any of the other things they've done on the show, and not the sort of thing that should be handled in the usual reality-TV way: slap stuff together, make it look good on the surface, and hustle for the cameras. Plus, as people have pointed out, it offers a lot more potential for crossing the law or the bureaucracy (especially in NYC) than their other tasks to date.
On background checks: I've found it pretty standard here in small-town Illinois to be asked for references when renting a house, but I'm pretty certain none of them have ever been followed up. Same thing with job applications -- it's just a standard thing to have on an application that most people never use.
flotsette
Feb 26, 2004 @ 1:31 pm
I just assumed that nothing that went on in this episode was actually binding; that after the cameras left, the producers explained what was going on to the 'renters' and told them they'd have to deal with the real landlord to actually rent the place. I'm not sure why I thought that, since most of the other tasks have been 'real' -- people really did buy the lemonade and the shirts with ribbons, and the auction winners really did get and pay for what they bid on.
Yeah, I would assume they wouldn't let the contestants cause TOO much damage.
Although the other tasks were more "real," I still thought they didn't necessarily represent how people would do in an actual business situation. With more time and prep, anyone could have done better than the teams did. Just as one example, with Planet Hollywood, the long-term solution if I were managing the restaraunt would either be (a) print/radio advertising or (b) ditching the sinking ship and rebranding the place. Clearly neither of these things could be done in one day, so I thought what the teams did was almost irrelevant to the gross receipts.
Sorry, I got a bit off topic there. Flog me.
SamIAm
Feb 26, 2004 @ 5:00 pm
Honestly, it seemed to me that Ms. Staten Island rented the apartment from the Apprentices at their jacked-up price, then realized when seeing the show that it was a major markup from its "appraised" value of $1200 and was super-embarrassed (remember how she alluded in her article to the fact that her friends watched it and that she still lives there). It seems dumb but that's a big deal here --I suspect people frequently exaggerate about how low their rent is as it seems 9 out of 10 folks I know have an absurdly cheap "steal"--so to have it revealed on TV must have been embarrassing for her.
So she backpedaled with the awful, awkward story in her paper, all "Oh, but really before that, the landlord told me I could get it for lower, and then inexplicably I was back in the neighborhood several days later at the same building and I went in and re-rented the same apartment and signed a release for something even though I didn't know what show it was and it was just a sham and I don't even OWN a television but... I'm definitely not a sucker who got ripped off on her rent!"
The most disturbing part is that her newspaper would waste column inches with such a self-indulgent article. I think I'll send a 1000-word piece to the Times about how I knew that Versace suit I bought at Macy's may have seemed expensive to the untrained eye, but really the owner gave it to me for a much lower price later, once the security cameras were off. I'm no sucker!
Sentinal96825
Feb 26, 2004 @ 5:44 pm
My thing is this, when in the world did Assorama have time to spend 18 HOURS at the ER?! Without them even SHOWING any of it? And sheetmetal? Concussion? I thought concussions occurred when you actually lose conciousness? And did she ever even seem woozy?
rocko9
Feb 26, 2004 @ 6:02 pm
it was just a sham and I don't even OWN a television but... I'm definitely not a sucker who got ripped off on her rent!"
Or, in Tammy's words: she got duped.
wearing red
Feb 26, 2004 @ 6:14 pm
My thing is this, when in the world did Assorama have time to spend 18 HOURS at the ER?! Without them even SHOWING any of it?
Just be glad the editors took pity on us and didn't torture us with any unnecessary Assorama screen time. Especially whiny "I'm in paaaiiin" Assorama.
RhondaGC
Feb 26, 2004 @ 6:49 pm
And does Assorama really seem like the type to sit quietly for 18 hours in the emergency room? Without bitching to everyone about it when she got back home? Without mentioning every single time she can how she was put at the back of the line because she's black, you know, and how unfair it all was? Who cares if people with gunshot wounds and strokes were being brought in after her! She was in line first, damn it! In fact, she's so busy with her *fabulous* job that she doesn't really have time to wait. Could you please speed things up a little?
Yeah, definitely didn't happen, at least not 18 hours' worth. We would have heard about it. (Although my experiences in the emergency room support the idea that it could well have been 8 hours--7 of them spent waiting to actually see the doctor).
TessaL
Feb 26, 2004 @ 7:00 pm
The most disturbing part is that her newspaper would waste column inches with such a self-indulgent article.
Obviously you don't read the Staten Island Advance on a regular basis.
Mama Tiger
Feb 26, 2004 @ 7:42 pm
On background checks: I've found it pretty standard here in small-town Illinois to be asked for references when renting a house, but I'm pretty certain none of them have ever been followed up. Same thing with job applications -- it's just a standard thing to have on an application that most people never use.
I had my references checked
very carefully in a recent job search. In fact, nobody would consider making me an offer till they'd checked my references. So it still does happen.
And most applications for an apartment have a blank for your job, don't they? And often your employer, too. So there wouldn't have to be a deep background check to find out Ms. Staten Island was a reporter.
But I smell a large rat, too. It just doesn't add up. At
all. My famewhore detector went off immediately on this one.
mswestern
Feb 26, 2004 @ 7:44 pm
David Bianculli did an
Apprentice piece on
Fresh Air today. He discussed the Katrina/Troy broo-ha-ha at length.
My husband has a bit of an attitude about reality shows -- well, it can't be lowbrow entertainment if it's on NPR, can it?
Forgot to add the link:
http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml;jsess...dayDate=current
Rabrab
Feb 26, 2004 @ 8:12 pm
Two things:
The Donald is going to be on Ellen DeGeneris's show tomorow afternoon--it should be good, since she seems to have a very low pomposity-tolerance threshhold.
and
The question that's been niggling at the back of my mind since I read that SIAdvance article, is this: she said that she'd looked at the apartment previously, and then the landlord reneged and offered it to the show, and she found out two days before she was supposed to move, right? Well, maybe I'm just an ignorant fly-over country hick, but why was she planning to move when she hadn't signed a lease on it yet, or, if she had signed a lease, how was it legal for the landlord to make her renegotiate the rent, after signing the lease? Either way, it smells like cowshit to me.
RhondaGC
Feb 26, 2004 @ 9:02 pm
David Bianculli did an Apprentice piece on Fresh Air today.
Oh, man. Wouldn't you know, it would be the one day that I didn't listen. Have to go check out the link.
t can't be lowbrow entertainment if it's on NPR, can it?
Especially given the type of artists and entertainers that are usually profiled on that show, which are, quite frankly, often too highbrow for me.
Piersea
Feb 27, 2004 @ 10:17 am
The boardroom on the show is actually a set built in the basement of Trump Tower.
According to a friend who worked on the TV lighting for the show the boardroom and the suites are all together on the second floor. So I guess its down to the street or into the elevator to uh come right back out again.
Brynee
Feb 27, 2004 @ 10:36 am
Did anyone see Donald on Ellen just now? (She's on at 10am in my city.) I turned it on just as he was getting done. Did she ask about his hair?
networkinggirl
Feb 27, 2004 @ 10:40 am
Big surprise...
Ereka willbe featured in the April 2004 issue of FHM magazine in a spread called "Girls of The Apprentice"
Good Christ. How soon til Playboy?
fshk
Feb 27, 2004 @ 11:01 am
Did anyone see Ereka on the Today Show this morning? I missed last night's episode (it's taped, though, so I still intend to see it), but I could tell Ereka kind of lives in her own world, basically blaming Bill for getting her fired because she thought he was "on [her] side." And then she totally went off on Omarossa. So, Ereka thought the editing on the show represented her unfairly, but was nice to Omarossa and that Omarossa is much worse in real life.
iMissEthan
Feb 27, 2004 @ 11:14 am
Someone posted a thorough rehash of the Today show appearance in the episode thread, I think page 14. Maybe they could cut and paste it here.
cellochick
Feb 27, 2004 @ 3:58 pm
Ereka will be featured in the April 2004 issue of FHM magazine in a spread called "Girls of The Apprentice"
Well, that ought to help her job hunt.
Since it's "Girls" plural -- who else? I'm assuming Kristi (based on the Red Shoe Diaries thing) and Omarosa (since she was the other one, with Ereka, on the unbuttoned-blouse TV Guide cover). But I'd imagine they get at least 4 or 5 of them for a magazine spread like that. I imagine not Amy or Heidi, though for different reasons.
nea1982
Feb 27, 2004 @ 4:11 pm
Omarosa is not doing the shoot. Kristi is confirmed.
networkinggirl
Feb 27, 2004 @ 4:13 pm
gotta be Ereka, Kristi and Katrina
Good god girls, get some self respect.
Kromm
Feb 27, 2004 @ 5:25 pm
Theoretically it could be Amy too. But if it's NOT, it might feed the speculation that she's bound to win.
The thought of a shoot like that including Heidi, however, kind of turns my stomach.
Jessie might do it. If the birdies flying around outside the place where they do the photo shoot don't distract her.
Ylekot
Feb 27, 2004 @ 9:01 pm
gotta be Ereka, Kristi and Katrina
Good god girls, get some self respect.
Ah. The jiggy/shooter girls. Not surprising.
Meghan Jill
Feb 28, 2004 @ 12:12 pm
Katrina on TodayGo down to Latest Today Show video...it's number 6.
I never posted a link before so I hope that works...
Boy, did Ereka sound horrible there! She said that Bill was basically her best friend (besides Katrina, of course!) during the project, then in the Boardroom saw which way the tide was turning and ganged up on her because--get this--he didn't want to be on a team with two powerful women! Give me a break! She's totally delusional. And as someone mentioned in the episode thread...if the problem was with Nick's paperwork, why didn't she point that out in the Boardroom?!
<i>"ETA: Yay, it worked! :D"</i>
Wrigley
Feb 28, 2004 @ 12:33 pm
Thanks to the link, I finally saw Ereka's appearance. No need to comment on that. I did check out her website, which che mentioned at the end of her interview. Now, I've been a loyal Clinique customer for as long as I've been wearing makeup and perfume. What I don't understand is the following (from the first line of her resumé):
• Developed and managed Clinique’s promotional programs for all department and perfumery doors worldwide.
Should "doors" be "stores," or is that retail lingo? If it's a type-o, maybe it should be fixed before announcing the website on national television. Remember the lesson from last week . . . "God is in the details."
Apologies if this belongs in the Ereka thread.
AlmondEyes
Feb 28, 2004 @ 12:59 pm
Thanks for that snippet, DrJulia99. I don't doubt some of what Assorama sez: minorities aren't always portrayed in the best light on reality shows, especially MB shows, and editing can be a bitch. That said, I have no doubt that in real life she's the controlling, condescending asshole that she appears to be on television. In order to completely create this horrible image out of whole cloth would be one hell of an editing job, IMO.
Trump was on Larry King last nite, and MB joined him for the last 20 minutes. Trump sez that MB doesn't tell him at all who should be fired vs. who should be kept for better ratings. If he really believes that, MB is even more of an evil genius that we thought he is, and he's done quite the Jedi mind trick on DT.
Don Quixote
Feb 28, 2004 @ 2:32 pm
-- well, it can't be lowbrow entertainment if it's on NPR, can it?
My sentiment exactly. I felt pretty uneasy about being so addicted to such "lowbrow entertainment" and I kept logging on to the
Fresh Air web site to see if David Edelstein or one of their other media critics had reviewed the show. Weeks went by and no one had and then finally
Market Place host David Brancaccio reviewed it positively and now I feel better. The show is a phenomenon if only a momentary one. According to Brancaccio every episode will be available on DVD after the series ends. I don't know if I'll purchase them though.
Sometimes when I watch the show and I hear that operatic choir in the background and the music score I think, man this is corny, I'm glad I'm watching this by myself. But then there's the board room scene with Trump and after he's given his opinion and rendered his judgement I think to myself, well he's probably a jerk, but he's an impressive performer. I like the hairpiece too. I think it's the perfect touch.
Mama Tiger
Feb 28, 2004 @ 4:15 pm
Papa Tiger left the TV running on CNN earlier this afternoon, and I caught an interview with the Newsweek guy (the Detroit bureau chief, I believe they said -- can't remember his name, Greg something?) who wrote the article for this week's cover story on The Donald. He gave FAR more detail on The Hair than anyone -- including his interviewers wanted to know, primarily that The Donald washes it in the morning and lets it air dry for an hour and a half before having The Girlfriend style it. Eww. There was also a woman being interviewed who I didn't catch an ID on, but she had also interviewed The Donald on camera at one point.
But overall, it was a very complimentary interview to The Donald (who was referred to as that by everyone in the interview) -- talking about no matter what he does, he does it in Trump style. Like his interview with the woman, he picked her up in his helicopter and then they landed on the roof of one of his hotels, which was so loud it caused everyone nearby to come out and watch him exiting the helicopter with cameras rolling. The Newsweek guy was taken to his place in Palm Beach, which he described as "....really something" for his interview.
The overall impression I got was that they were amused by Trump's flashiness but also personally charmed by him.
Rabrab
Feb 28, 2004 @ 4:32 pm
The overall impression I got was that they were amused by Trump's flashiness but also personally charmed by him.
This seems to be the way he affects an awful lot of people. In all of the live interviews I've seen with him, although he may talk about how busy his schedule is, he somehow never gives the impression that there's anywhere he'd rather be than right there, talking to that person.
On Ellen yesterday, he was relaxed; played along with her goofiness; laughed out loud when she showed him a box of "You're Fired-O's" (with marshmallow pink slips!); told a story about one day, when he was $90 million in debt, walking along the street and pointing out a man to his companion and saying "See him?" His companion said, "Yes, he's a beggar. Isn't that sad," and he said, "Right now, even if he doesn't have anything, he's worth $90 million more than I am." Then Ellen asked him how much money he had in his wallet right now, and he said none, pulled out his wallet and opened it up, and said, "Oh, a dollar bill I won in a bet," and joked about having an assistant following him around with a briefcase full of cash. Then he abruptly switched tone when she asked him what his advice for someone in financial trouble would be, and very seriously said "Never give up. Keep plugging away. It way be hard, but you can't succeed if you quit trying."
He came off very likeable.
2ys4me
Feb 28, 2004 @ 6:36 pm
Should "doors" be "stores," or is that retail lingo? If it's a type-o, maybe it should be fixed before announcing the website on national television. Remember the lesson from last week . . . "God is in the details."
Yes, in retail and wholesale, "doors" is the lingo: "How many doors are we in?... What are the doors averaging? What doors are up?" etc.
I do find her sense of self worth a little grandiose, as one should always be careful when using the words "all" and worldwide, but so be it. These things can come back to haunt one.
Wrigley
Feb 29, 2004 @ 12:26 am
Should "doors" be "stores," or is that retail lingo? If it's a type-o, maybe it should be fixed before announcing the website on national television. Remember the lesson from last week . . . "God is in the details."
Yes, in retail and wholesale, "doors" is the lingo: "How many doors are we in?... What are the doors averaging? What doors are up?" etc.
Thanks for that info
2ys4me. Thinking it was a type-o was bothering me
way more than it should have been . . . I have got to get a hobby or something!
queasy
Feb 29, 2004 @ 7:44 am
On Trump's Larry King interview, he gave out the number for anyone wanting to order Trump Ice. (In fairness, this was in response to a caller's question.) So those idiot eBay bidders don't really need to spend $12 a bottle plus shipping.
Larry also examined Trump's hair and acknowledged that it was neither a toupee nor a comb-over, although I'm not exactly sure where Larry gets his expertise in hair evaluation.
Trump again made the claim that the Apprentice was the #1 show, then Burnett came on and had to follow up that it was, in fact, tied for #1, but only in the 18-49 demographic. Even then, he didn't say whether he meant tied for it's time slot, for the night, or for the week.
Trump confirmed that he and Burnett are equal partners in the show, and that it's currently being licensed overseas. Any country who picks it up has to air the American version first, then they can make sequels with their own faux Trump. He said the rumour about an L.A. based show with Katenzenberg was just a joke he made. He said some of the ideas for the tasks (like the lemonade) were his and some came from Burnett.
He said he wouldn't decide which company the eventual winner would end up running until he knew who the winner was.
As much as I've come to (sorta) not mind Trump on the show, he was back to being his egotistical self. Every single thing he owns or is affiliated with is the best, the biggest, the smartest, the most popular, the most expensive. It's tiresome. One caller asked him about his runaway ego, and he blah-blahed that it was necesary in his business.
PhilAlex
Feb 29, 2004 @ 11:06 am
As much as I've come to (sorta) not mind Trump on the show, he was back to being his egotistical self. Every single thing he owns or is affiliated with is the best, the biggest, the smartest, the most popular, the most expensive. It's tiresome. One caller asked him about his runaway ego, and he blah-blahed that it was necesary in his business.
Trump's right. It is.
(But I will say, queasy, it can be darned annoying sometimes.)
jjj
Feb 29, 2004 @ 2:56 pm
Sam is making himself available as a consultant -- for $2000-$3000 per appearance, he will provide motivational speeches. This is reported in a brief article in today's New York Times (Business and Money section), which expresses some doubt that there will be much demand for this, based on Sam's performance on the show. It closes with a positive yet non-committal quote from DT.
networkinggirl
Feb 29, 2004 @ 5:38 pm
According to the March 8th issue of InTouch Magazine, Amy and Nick are not involved.
But according to the article she IS ivolved with one of the other candidates.....
Bill Rancic.
Seems she was seen doing some heavy duty making out with Bill at a recent Apprentice vieweing party here in NYC. (DAMN! I was invited to that party and I didn't go!)
The artcle was posted on another board. FAQ's state not to post links to articles, but I'm not sure if we can post links to other boards that post articles. So, if that's allowed just let me kno and I'll post the link.
BibiBella
Mar 1, 2004 @ 10:43 am
Today's NY Post gossip column (so take it for what it's worth) is reporting that Katrina, Kristi, Amy and Ereka posed for FHM magazine (men's mag) in sexy business attire and red lingerie at the World Bar at Trump World Tower.
Boy, that'll get them taken seriously for a top biz job - not!
networkinggirl
Mar 1, 2004 @ 10:55 am
Amy did it too, huh?
Wow...for some reason I'm dissapointed in her. I thought she was above stuff likk that. I can see her and Kristi wearing the business attire, but guaranteed Katrina and Ereka are the ones wearing lingerie.
Hey...wait a minute....one might think that Amy--if she had won the contest or was part of the final 2-4 candidates--that she WOULDN'T pose for somethig like this.
Hmmmm.....
nettey78
Mar 1, 2004 @ 11:06 am
[DT on Ellen]told a story about one day, when he was $90 million in debt, walking along the street and pointing out a man to his companion and saying "See him?" His companion said, "Yes, he's a beggar. Isn't that sad," and he said, "Right now, even if he doesn't have anything, he's worth $90 million more than I am."
Several months ago there was a show on HBO (Born Rich) about several young people who were born into families with incredible wealth. Anyway, Ivanka Trump was one of the subjects of the show and she said DT told her that when she was younger so apparently she was the companion. It's intesresting that that moment/conversation seems to stick out so vivedly in each of their minds that they can each quote the conversation word for word 10-15 years later.
[ot]Ivanka came off very well in the show and seemed to be the most grounded of the bunch.
BibiBella
Mar 1, 2004 @ 11:11 am
Nettey78, you wrote:
Anyway, Ivanka Trump was one of the subjects of the show and she said DT told her that when she was younger so apparently she was the companion.
What do you mean by "she was the companion"? Confused here. Thanks!
ClaytonBigsby
Mar 1, 2004 @ 1:23 pm
Ewwww. Amy in FHM? Katrina?? I can kinda understand Katrina because she has big breasts and that's all you need to be "attractive", but Amy?
The Mee
Mar 1, 2004 @ 1:57 pm
I think the companion means Ivanka was the one walking along with Trump when he saw the beggar. She was the one he was talking to.
Also, I thought it was 900 not 90 million. Yowza.
PhilAlex
Mar 1, 2004 @ 5:33 pm
When Trump tells the story in "The Art of the Comeback", it's Marla he's talking to.
lynettefl
Mar 1, 2004 @ 6:47 pm
Hey...wait a minute....one might think that Amy--if she had won the contest or was part of the final 2-4 candidates--that she WOULDN'T pose for somethig like this.
I agree.
bpr
Mar 1, 2004 @ 7:27 pm
Oh, I don't know; look how much attention we're all paying to Trump Ice, which I doubt many of us heard of before last week, let alone consider trying a bottle. One thing Donald Trump knows is the value of publicity; looking a little foolish or scantily-clad is a small price to pay for attracting people to whatever it is The Sole Apprentice will "run".
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