Just had to add my .02. Steven from Real World Chicago is on Days Of Our Lives and one of the daughters from Who Wants To Marry My Dad is on Passions. (Both NBC soaps). Loath to admit that I spend my time watching either, but I do.

Long time lurker, hope I did the quotes right.

I think it's Kyle that's on the soap.

I do believe you are correct. My mistake. Steven, Kyle...after awhile they are all interchangeable. Unless they are Troy or Kwame.

Wasn't there a recent article saying that ABC was working on their version of TA, using Mark Cuban? I saw a quote from Mark B saying in effect, "good luck, you have no idea what the ingredients are for a show like this"

Puts hiring Kwame in a whole new light.

Assy from the In Touch article:



BWAH HA HA! I'd love to see that. Actually, I'd love all faith in humanity if it ever happens. But she gets more cover space than Bill or Kwame? WTF?

I was surprised to hear Amy on Dateline saying she was looking for a job "in front of the camera," because just last week she was on the View claiming that, FHM lingerie layout to the contrary, none of them were planning careers in entertainment. "Oh no," she said, "we're all businesswomen, and we all want to stay in business. Once this show winds down, we're going back to the corporate world." (I paraphrase.)

Looks like a lot can happen in a week.

Yes, I recall seeing an article about this...don't remember any details other than it's a reality show with Cuban. And yes, if this is the case, it does put hiring Kwame (if Kwame accepts) in a new light possibly (depending on what he's hiring Kwame to do).

Jenkinra, I'm not surprised to hear Amy say that at all. While she now says she got 'carried away' by posing for FHM, I think many of those who went on the show did it for hopes of a media career - what better way to make all those kinds of contacts and prove your appeal to America than by going on a reality show, esp. one with a boss like Trump?

As I posted earlier, some of them may truly want to stay in business and were looking to get contacts and exposure for themselves and their businesses (even if they didn't win), but others, I'm sure, were hoping for a TV career. After all, Kristi, Omarosa and Amy all have done modeling/acting...

The fact that Kwame mucked up most of those "meaningless tasks"-- on the #1 show in America!!-- was nonetheless not a good reflection on him. If he couldn't even do most of those tasks well, how good of an all-around businessman could he be, anyway?

And as for the Cuban job... isn't it interesting how it came RIGHT AFTER the end of the show, as if Cuban wanted to maximize the spotlight on himself? Frankly, I think Cuban is a fame-whore and is publicity hungry and would have asked whoever came in second place-- be it Kwame, Bill, Katrina, even Omarosa-- if he was willing to take a job with him. I just find it doubtful any serious and legitimate employer would hire someone for a powerful position because just becaused they noticed them losing a great many tasks in a reality show.

Maybe Kwame will get a job that requires actual work from him from Cuban-- maybe not. Maybe all Cuban wants Kwame to do is attract attention to his brand. But regardless, I have a hunch that much of the reason Cuban wants him IS because he's Kwame Jackson, a finalist of a popular show and a man beloved by many Americans-- not because of what he may or may not have done on the show.

Ereka did a soap for her college television station too. I'm betting that's where she got the taste for seeing herself on TV.

I was surprisedto see , in the EOnline article, that Kwame was willing to do the KFC endorsement as long as they met his price. 25K is just not enough for Kwame to be selling chicken, seeing as how some folks would find that somewhat pigeonholing.

But if he's willing to do the endorsement, KFC should cough up HOWEVER MUCH MONEY he asks for. Because I'd buy anything that fine man told me to buy.

Yep, this attitude is really widespread. If Kwame plays his hand right, he-- not Ohmyassa-- will be rolling in the dough from endorsements and job offers that will put him in the public spotlight. A great many people love him and would be willing to use things he sponsers, just because he's Kwame Jackson. Companies would be deluding themselves if they think the widely-hated Omarosa would be a great spokeswoman with the very-loved Kwame also available.

Funnyfan, I answered your post in the in the Kwame thread.

Is the KFC thing an endorsement deal, or a marketing project, because I had heard both.

I don't doubt that Cuban is probably a famewhore, but when you think about it - he couldn't have offered Kwame the job before the show ended. Well, I guess he could have, but it wouldn't have made sense. If Kwame won, he'd be contractually obligated to work for Trump for a year. He probably went after Kwame right away because he knew Kwame would be getting job offers left and right and wanted to snap him up. Hell, GS apparently asked him to come back.

It doesn't surprise me that Cuban offered Kwame the job that he did given Kwame's background. I forget the specifics of the job, but Kwame's MBA and experience at GS certainly give him the tools to do it. Somehow, I don't see Katrina, or Jessie, being offered something similar had they come in #2. Of course, I could be wrong.

Damn, a black man endorsing KFC? Something just sounds so wrong about that.

Yeah. I'm not African-Canadian, but I thought the same thing. Kwame could do all kinds of endorsements. I don't think this is the one to begin his shill-career with.

As for Asso, I have no doubt she will turn up in some form on a tv ad near you. I'd be surprised if it was for Clairol tho'. It'll be an ad that not-so-subtly makes fun of her. And she won't notice until it's too late--or she may never notice.

On Conan this past Tuesday night, they did a parody of The Apprentice finale Promo -- only it was setup to look like The Apprentice finale would be filled with the kinds of twists and turns that really crappy reality shows use to create shock and drama.
It included references to Average Joe: Adam Returns, The Littlest Groom, Fox's Man vs. Beast (specifically the episode where the little person raced the camel), AI's William Hung and a video clip of an H-bomb explosion. And, a mosiac of several hundred videos of 'The Donald' all saying 'You're Fired' repeatedly.

If TA was shown on Fox, this would have probably been right on the money.

Ugh. With all the media reports that Trump offered Amy a job, it appears that every man on the show really did have a crush on her (jk).

I got the impression toward the end of the season, when Amy finally made it to the boardroom and had some interaction with Trump, that his questions about her romantic life were more about self-titillation than anything job-related. He also gave off a sort of sappy flirtatious vibe with her that - well, just UGH.

SerendipityCA, I hadn't thought of that, but I think you're right...and yes, EWWWWW!

I would too, which why I keep thinking the irony of how much the Kwame autographed items from Planet Hollywood must be worth now.

Word, BibiBella and SerendipityCA! Forget Amy asking Trump to fire Carolyn - she's verging on asking him to fire Melania, who'll be none too happy about that!! Sucks that The Hair is feeding Amy's yooge ego.

To [b]SeprendipityCa and [b]BibiBella:

I was also creeped out by Donald's behavior in the last episode. First, he kept asking if Jessica Simpson is beautiful. He really stressed it with the women, especially Omarosa. Now did he really expect that delusional beauty contestant to sing the praises of another woman's looks? Maybe he did it to make a dig at her ego, but still, what the hell did it have to do with the matter at hand? Although I did enjoy it when the wretched O responded to the question with, "She's a pretty girl" like they had to pry it out of her mouth with pliers. Classic.

But DT's not so subtle attempts to find out if Amy had slept with Nick were just pervy and WRONG. Was that any of his damn business if she had? He was obviously getting off on the thought of her sex life, and his "Nice morals" or whatever that condescending remark was, did not hide his drooling.

Almondeyes, I don't doubt that TD is attracted from Amy, just from watching them on the show, but I also wonder if it's a 'domination/power' thing for him (I'm basing this on what Serependity posted about the self-titillation aspect).

In other words, he may really 'want' her but he may also just enjoy seeing her squirm (as he did when he confronted her in the BR about the Nick "showmance") and go all 'girly' on him...you know that a 'yooge' ego like his loves having women swoon and go nuts about him. So while I think he's very taken with Amy, I bet he's enjoying the hell out of having her go nuts about him. What'ja think?!


(And given her comment about "going to work for Trump if he fires Carolyn and hires her instead" along with his supposed-crush on her, I bet her ego is gaining on his fast!).


edited to add: blocked writer, I think your comments are right on. It was worth it, however, to see Omarosa squirm when Trump kept going on about how beautiful Jessica is since you know that Oma thinks she (Oma) is the 'only beautiful woman' in the world and it was shattering her world to hear Trump and George talk about how beautiful JS is. That said, I agree with your thinking about this whole line of questioning.

BibiBella, I really couldn't stand DT before I started watching the show, but the show humanized him a bit in my eyes. But he is still a creepy in a lot of ways, and the whole Trump Tower couldn't hold his ego. And if Amy thinks DT is ever going to fire Carolyn for her, she's as delusional as Omarosa!

By the way, I tried to BOLD both your name and SerendityCa's in my previous post. First it only bolded one name, even though I typed in both names in the message box. Then I edited it, and it just put a bracketed [b] in front of both names. I'm new posting here, and obviously don't know what I'm doing!

blocked writer, I feel the same way you do about Trump (although I was actually pretty neutral about him pre-show) - he is probably a bit weird in real life, but I find him very entertaining and funny to watch. He was soooo bad reading the teleprompter during the live portion of the show tonight that I was laughing out loud the whole time. Plus, he'd say something (off the teleprompter, of course) and then kinda give that 'scowl' look with his pursed lips like he was waiting for the audience to clap. Hilarious!

The reason your 'bolding' our names didn't work is that you have to click on the "B" at both the beginning and the end of whatever you want to bold (or italicize) and do it one after another...in other words, it looks like you did a "bold" before Serendipity's name and then again before my name, but that you forgot to click the 'bold' right after each name...not sure that makes sense. Keep practicing, you'll get it right!

My local news program just reported that TD will be putting together a "bloopers" show and hinted that it will include unaired footage of the boardrooms.

Wee!

Hooray! I hope that's true!

BibiBella, I was also cracking up at DT's pathetic attempts at reading the teleprompter! He's lucky he doesn't have to try to make a living as an actor - he'd be broke! And I can't even begin to imagine what's going on with his lips. Maybe his lips are being secretly controlled by The Hair (over which DT is obviously powerless.)

He is entertaining on the show, though. And he showed a great sense of humor on Saturday Night Live. I'm still laughing at "Trump's House of Chicken." But he was awful at reading cue cards there, too. And the man can't dance to save his life. But he was funny, sometimes unintentinally.

Thanks for the bolding advice. I'm getting ready for bed, so I'll try it when my brain fully awake.

I was really impressed with TD during his interview with Stone Phillips on Dateline. He appeared to be very down-to-earth and, dare I say, honest with his answers. When asked a question, he gave a direct answer (unlike some people) and was, in some cases, pretty self-deprecating. I just can't dislike him no matter how hard I try.

For your Sunday reading pleasure. I don't think I've repeated anything, but if I did, apologies. It were an accident.

`The Apprentice' leaves a hollow feeling. Chicago Tribune. (Free subscription needed.) Pretty snarky assessment. I cannot help but think this writer may have taken a gander at these boards. Some familiar phraseology.


HANDS-ON TREATMENT, MINDING NUTS-AND-BOLTS MAKES WINNING FORMULA NY Post. Trump's recap.

'APPRENTICE' BOOM NY Post. Don't let the first line frighten you.

Happy to be free finally of Trump reality. NY Daily News. Commentary by someone who only watched the finale. Snot.

On 'Apprentice,' a Briefcase Study in Chutzpah. Washington Post. Scroll down as this is the last item in The Reliable Source column. Heh. You gotta love that Sammy.

The first of another day at the office for 'The Apprentice'. Daily Herald: Suburban Chicago's Information Source. For Bill fans.

Another for Bill diehards. Some information I've not seen before.

Trump's Apprentice Sends Construction Workers to ER on Day One The Spoof UK. It tries to be funny. Meh.

Chrysler could tell Trump: You're hired. Detroit Free Press.

Companies cash in on 'Apprentice' CNN Money.

TV's 'Apprentice' mostly trumpets Trump, some say. The Salinas Californian. Local businessfolk comment on TA. I can't get enough of these local commentaries.

Maine execs turned on by Trump TV. Portland Press Herald. Comments from the other coast.

Blame the Messenger.
NY Times. Okay, the article's about the Mercury retrograde, but there's a quote from Trump's ex, Marla Maples. Makes you wonder how things are going to work out for everyone involved in TA...

For any Canadians interested: CBC Sunday Morning has Bill on this morning. It's on 10am to 12 on the main network and 12noon to 2:00pm on Newsworld I believe.

From one of the Post articles linked:



We always knew how in love they are, so I'm glad to see Kwame looking out for Troy...will be interesting to see if T-roy takes the job and what it is (given that Kwame has said he's starting his own media company with several friends, I'd bet he's thinking of putting Troy in sales somewhere).

According to an article at tvguide.com, KFC announced last week that it would offer the Apprentice runner-up $25,000 to help roll out its new oven-roasted chicken line. So at that point they wouldn't have known that Kwame would be the runner-up. The same article mentions that PETA sent letters to both Kwame and Bill urging them not to take the offer from KFC. In part the letter read, "If KFC offers you the position of chief sales officer…" So it appears the job isn't an endorsement but an actual project management position of launching a new product.

A couple of other interesting quotes from the tvguide.com article:

Meanwhile, Trump reveals that another fired Apprentice star is hitting him up for work. "Amy has requested a job," he says. "She wants to move to New York. I would certainly consider Amy."

Hmmm, not the same story Amy is telling, is it?

Also this: When the tvguide reporter asked DT why he didn't call out Assy about her lies when they were on Oprah his response was: "You know why? Because I wanted to save it for [the finale]," he said. "I didn't want to shoot all my ammunition and not have the ammunition for [the finale]. If you looked at me on Oprah, I was biting my tongue."

Well, that explains his cat-that-ate-the-canary expression while Assy was babbling away on Oprah! It will be interesting to see if Oprah does any follow up about what liar Assy turned out to be.

Sorry, this is from a few pages back (it's taken me a while to catch up just yesterday and today!). Dramarosa (The Drag Queen of Mean) was quoted in In Touch magazine:



So the first item on her list is to use the Way-Back Machine? Sorry, bitch is 40 if she's a day.

One thing I am thankful for: the link to the story about her skirt blowing up has been updated and no longer has the story. So, I don't need the full vat of bleach; just a quick touch-up with a Crest Whitestrip. But I did have a question: did they get a shot of her penis?

Hee!

According to Celebrity Justice, Trump's smackdown of Omsarosa and allowing Ereka to have the last word was probably a legal move to cover his and Burnett's ass.

Maybe so. But since Trump was in control of the situation during the show finale, it was also his opportunity to give Ereka a chance to say something in her defense without being drowned out by Assy's ridiculous blah, blah blah, which Oprah allowed her to do.

Oh, absolutely, BibiBella; all she needs to do is to pledge her undying devotion to The Hair!! Seriously, his ego feeds off of women like Amy trying to get all in his grill, and women like Melania who are already there. And Carolyn isn't the only person Amy would love DT to fire. I'll bet that, if Amy does indeed accept the job that he supposedly offered her, firing Melania will be her next order of business. Because that's just what I think golden girl is all about.

All teleprompters within a 50 mile radius should get a restraining order against DT. He has absolutely no business in front of them, cuz he's just horrible. He's much better shooting from the hip.

Delusional, bat-shit crazy Omarosa quoted in In Touch magazine??? I wonder whether the editors approached her because they have a great sense of irony.

I totally, totally agree with this. I did not expect to like him at all when the show began, but time and time again he proved himself to be an ok guy for the most part. Delusional? Sure, a bit. Given to hyperbole? You betcha. But he's not afraid to poke fun at himself about it, and he seems like a mostly honest guy. That goes a long way with me. I didn't get to see all of the Dateline interview, but I liked what I did see.

I also enjoyed his lack of polish on the live segment of the finale. He'd be extremely annoying if he was Mr. Slick. His rough edges make him human.

Hey, at least Kwame will be selling Oven Roasted chicken instead of Fried. :-)

Yeah... big difference. I know.

Africana.com is having a conversation about Omarosa's doing in of Kwame. Some really good comments and insightful observations.



That kind of blew my mind too. It's really weird liking a guy who lives in such a hidous gilded nightmare. I mean sheesh. His taste would appear to be all in his mouth but for his appreciation of beautiful women.

I'm now watching a Travel Channel show titled Donald Trump's New York (cuz I just can't get enough), focusing on Trump's buildings around the city. I might have to start calling myself one of DT's bitches if I keep this up.

Question - why does the show persist in calling Trump Tower - the one on 57th and 5th - a top tourist attraction and a NY landmark?? I'm sure that tourists are probably interested in the building now given how popular Apprentice has become. But I'm sorry, I have never had friends or relatives visit from out of town for whom Trump Tower was even on the radar of places to see. New York landmarks? Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty, WTC pre-9/11. But Trump Tower?? Not so much, dude.

One of the people providing commentary is Tom. I think he was the interviewer who told DT that Amy bored the hell out of him. Love! him!

I read and rechecked the thread to see if this has been posted. I don't believe it has. If so, please forgive the redundancy.

Us Magazine has an interview with Amy and Nick. Some of the more interesting bits:

Jessie and Bowie dated briefly after the show.

According to Amy, the biggest catfight was edited for TV:



Nick said:





When asked who they would least like to work for, Nick said:



Messiest person in the suite:

According to Amy:



According to Nick:

Me too. I laughed hard twice:

* When Trump heavily implied that he gave the women the sexuality lecture not because he meant it, but because he thought it would be good for his image

* When after claiming that sexuality is pervasive throughout all culture including the business world, Trump asked Stone to admit how often thinks about sex (bwah! Stone didn't answer, of course)

Good stuff!

goobaletta, thanks for the link to africana.com. Here are a few really great postings I found:



Very well said and spot on in terms of his real weakness (even beyond Omarosa which was a major weakness). This makes me think Kwame probably had not done much managing at Goldman, Sachs. Many new leaders/managers tend to be way too hands-off and I think Kwame would be anyway, given his laid-back style which he'll have to learn to modify a bit.

Another posting on this same site about Omarosa's husband and what this poster thinks:



OK, the part about sending Mr. Manigault-Stallworth a "get well basket" -- too funny!! But he'll need more than that if he's gonna survive her.

Venus: I like Kwame. From The State.com out of South Carolina. From a sports story covering tennis. The middle section of the piece is about Venus Williams and her interest in TA. Frankly, I'd be happy to see either one of the Williams sisters on Kwame's arm. They are all topnotch people.

Also, check your local PBS listings for the semi-feminist pundit show To the Contrary for this week's episode. (It just finished airing here in Mississippi. Sorry I didn't mention it sooner.) The middle segment discusses the women of TA, their behavior, and to a degree their attire. Good discussion. Well-balanced. And ain't none of them like Omarosa. Imagine that.

(Edited because I had a brain fart and didn't make sense a couple of times. Damn retrograde!)

More discussion about Omarosa. Some of it is pretty inflammatory and there's some flaming, but it progresses from January thru the end of the show. It's a board frequented by supposed entrepreneurs. Nowhere near as intelligent as TWoP, but some good comments.

edited to move it to the ep thread, since it wasn't really media related anymore. SerendipityCA, it was a follow-up to your "flirtatious/self-titillation" post a couple of pages back.

goobaletta, you're amazing - our very own clipping service. If I haven't thanked you already, thanks!

I was particularly interested in the africana.com link. A lot of posters over there are really pissed at the negative image OM-S is giving black women.

I really hope that next season they actually *do* cast a Strong Black Woman. There are plenty of them out there. My best friend is one!

I hope those posters are at the forefront of those who are sending in complaints to Clairol, VH1, or anyone else considering Assy to represent them. What an awful example for young women -- regardless of race -- that someone of such deplorable character can be rewarded for it with all the media coverage and potential job offers.

Exactly. (*cough* Monica Lewinsky and her "presidential kneepads" *cough*).

That africana.com link had a lot of very interesting commentary. The Assorama hate abounds!! If I didn't know better, I'd have thought I was reading TWoP!

I posted in Assy's thread that I went on an interview for a law firm job on Friday, and the interviewer was very interested in my opinion on Assorama and whether I thought she sank Kwame. He said that he'd hate for someone to 'pull an Omarosa' in the office, and mentioned that like Assy, I went to Howard University. He was being tongue-in-cheek with the 'pulling an Omarosa' line, or so I hope, but the whole thing was pretty cringe-worthy.

That's the legacy that you've left for black women in the eyes of some, Assy, as if we don't have enough issues in the workplace. Thanks, bitch!!!





So, unless he's running the show, he's not a team player? And he wonders why no one liked him? Ass. He really isn't that smart, is he?

Not only does it seem like Omarosa left a bad name for a population of women but she also destroyed the reputation and name of Howard University.