Ereka isn't doing anything of the kind. She's blathering on and on in attempts to keep this episode going. God, I HATE people who yap about taking legal action who never follow through.

If she takes action, she's screwed. Like I said before, if Omarosa can belittle Ereka to a whining crying mess, consider what a lawyer would do. Let the Hether explore all she wants. The longer she continues to enmesh herself in this, the dirtier it (and her repuation) is going to get. I get that she feels she was wronged, and if Omarosa did lie than Ereka was wronged...but I still maintain that Omarosa did not name Ereka outright at first (yes she intimated it and certainly hinted at it.) Ereka was the one to align herself with this allegation. Should have just sat back, kept her mouth shut, issued a statement, done 1 great media appearance and then distanced herself.

Maybe slander is different, but I know that in a libel suit the burden is on the plaintiff to prove the claim is false. Ereka also probably would have to prove that she was harmed by the allegation, which no one seems to believe. Plus, Ereka chose to put herself in the public eye. I'm no lawyer but it seems like Ereka would have a tough case to make.

From the morning times article:



yeahwhatever opined:



Yeahwhatever, the woman who contracted with the landlord at a lower rent and then negotiated for a higher number with the apprentices, did not negotiate with Bill, since he was with Katrina on Versacorp. She negotiated with Protege, the winning team. The winning team who won the task with a phony inflated rental bid that the tenant never intended to pay since she knew she didn't have to. The phony inflated rental bid that sent Versacorp to the Boardroom and got one of their contestants fired that week. That kind of bugs me. Whether it amounts to a hill of beans in the long run, probably not. Tammy was never going to win the job with Trump anyway, so whether she left that week or one or two weeks later, it's all the same.

Sorry, TessieCee, lawyer here, and that's not correct. First of all, there are no blanket burden of proof distinctions between libel and slander (that I'm aware of).

1. Once the Plaintiff states her case, the Defendant can use "truth of the statement" as a DEFENSE against plaintiff's allegations, but the burden is on the Defendant to show that the statement was true. The plaintiff does not have to prove falsity, for the reasons you'd expect....it's can be almost impossible in many cases.

2. Saying that someone said the N-word may be (may be) an accusation so serious and damaging to a person's reputation that it may be "slander per se," in which case the presumption is that the plainitff was harmed, and thus the plaintiff only has to prove the amount of damages. It's the difference between falsely saying "Ereka was a bad worker at Estee Lauder" (which might harm her job prospects, but would not subject her to general hatred) and "Ereka used an odious racial slur," which is tantamount, for most people, to saying "Ereka's a racist."

(The classical examples of this are accusing someone of having a "loathesome disease" or accusing a woman of being "unchaste." Ironic about that second one, given the players, huh?)

I'm a little pissed that Trump is backpedaling. He has said he doesn't believe the incident happened, which is pretty much the equivalent of calling her a liar. He also said you can't believe a word she says (sure, it was part of a script for SNL, but he still said it).

Now he's saying she's smart and amazing and just needs to be a little more diplomatic. WTF? So, is this another case of someone having no respect for the woman, but still being fascinated and a little in awe of her pr skills just the same? If so, STOP IT!

I'm with George - it's all about character and Assy doesn't have any!! Let's not reward people like this or we'll just create more and more of them.

From Ereka and BFF Katrina's online chat today with Boston.com (a subsidiary of The Boston Globe.)

While their chat seems like nothing more than 2 Sweet Valley High Prom Queen babble...I got the biggets laugh out of the number (or lack there of) of people who were actually interested in chatting with them....36.

Couldn't agree with you more, kattam6175.

Oh. Well. I guess that does change things. That's twice today I've been wrong. Pretty soon my credibility will be sharing a table with Omarosa's.

I'm loving the reaction shot from Carolyn during the first Assorama segment on Oprah. Her face clearly read, "Whatever, bitch."

Heidi's looking to the side was also rather funny, like she'd rather be anywhere but there at that particular moment.

In the piece Dougintx posted (back on page 106) on Ereka et al. posing for FHM, they had this quote from Ereka:


Your BFF says you look like J.Lo, so you think you really do? This totally reminded me of Milhouse from the Simpsons saying proudly, "Mom says I'm the handsomest boy in school."

Oh, how ridiculous these "ladies" are.

Exactly. I'm pretty sure it was either Trump or Mark Burnett who stated flat out that no evidence exists to support her claim. It's all semantics. They've been calling her a liar without using the word 'liar' but it's really the same thing. So why in person do they fold like a pack of cards?

At one point, so did Oprah's. AAAAGGGG I hate Osama.

When Trump made his entrance to the show, God help me, I thought he looked cute for a second.

So overall it seemed like the audience backed up Ereka. I laughed my butt off when they were showing audience reaction to Osama's yapping right before going to commercial and one woman was clapping, and the woman to the left of her was sitting there like a statue, mouth agape. Word, Agape Lady.


Why do they fold in person? Good question. She must have a Cone of PsychoPower around her that she sics on people to make them say the opposite of what they really feel.

eta again: and WORD, Oprah, for calling Osama out on implying that "bitch" and the n-word are anywhere near each other in terms of damage.

Oh my god. Omarosa said that she was only seen as a major bitch because of the editing on the show. Whatever. She was rude as ever on Oprah. And why did she get to sit up on the stage with Trump and Oprah while Heidi and Ereka sat in the audience?

How one-sided was the Oprah show? Letting Omarosa on stage... Letting Omarosa talk over Ereka... Letting Omarosa say whatever she wanted...

Did Omarosa intentionally coordinate her peeeenk pantsuit to Trump's outfit?

And why did Trump let her keep touching him?

Because, at this point, with all the stories going around about people sleeping together, flirting with producers, fighting, etc. it's a lot harder for Trump to pull out the "they were on film all the time" card. He played up the Amy/Nick romance himself. And as an adult human being, he knows that 2 people who may be attracted to each other could open the door to the possibility that some sort of physicality happened. Now he has about 3-5 different stories going around about things being done off camera that it's hard to refute ALL of them.

Also, I would think that he could not legally call Omarosa a liar in the press or on TV without exposing himself to a possible lawsuit. My opinion is...if he knew definitively that Ereka didn't say it, then he would say so, as he would have prroof to back it up. I don't think he can say 100% that he knows for sure if it happened.

How rude when Ereka stated that if the footage wasn't there it didn't happen, and Osama threw out "What about the footage of Ereka flirting with the producers?" Damn. She really knows how to work a scandal. Whether or not it's true, it's out there now...fucking bitch.

Oops. Been a little out of pocket with Apprentice gossip.

Still, Assorama is a beeeeeetch.

That allegation came out last week in a national magazine. And Ereka didn't deny it.

And all the Trump Touching!!?? I was thinking the EXACT same thing. I think H & E were too. As a fellow strong Nubian who has "overcome" with an unusual name begining with O, perhaps Oprah feels some solidarity with her? More likely, Omarosa's agent/lawyer/manager/publicist whoever made this part of the deal for her appearance.

WORD. Plus, if that happened, the Oprah show would be more that other talk show in Chicago -- (Jerry Springer of course).

I said in Asshole's thread that I actually thought Ereka came across pretty well. She didn't let Assy throw her off like she has in the past. I thought Ereka was able to make her points. I didn't get the vibe that Oprah doesn't believe Ereka, just that she wasn't terribly interested in the topic.

I would think that Trump wouldn't want some bitch touching his designer suits.

Unbefreakinglievable. I don't think I've ever seen an Oprah audience come so close to booing a guest as they did when Assy said that Erika was using this show as a vehicle for bringing up new problems and accusations. Ground control to Assorama, you just brought up totally random bullshit about Erika flirting with people.

The only thing worse than that is when Oprah asked Assy point blank, "Did Erika call you the N Word?" she did cartwheels around the bush by saying "Well, I have moved past all of the horrible things that were said, and some things worse than even that were thrown around." Word up, Oprah and DT for asking exactly what's worse than the N word. She is, just like Erika said, getting lost in her own lies.

And I'd like to know what crack Burnett is on if he's not showing footage of people "grabbing and pulling" and physically attacking Assy, as she is now claiming. I wish people would stop saying she's doing well for herself. She's not. Everyone thinks she's a crazy ass fool.

And furthermore, I agree with everyone that the seating was totally lopsided, but I understand the need to have E&H separate from Assy. But get her the hell off the stage, and stop touching Donald!

Oh, lordy. Watching Erika & Omarosa go at it on "Oprah" was really frustrating. I was really hoping that Erika would be completely exonerated. But she kind of crumpled. But at least Oprah interjected to remind everyone that calling someone a bitch is very different from calling them a n-----.

Katrina grabbed her arm during their confrontation early in the season. Oprah aired the clip.

Well, I'm gonna hate myself for doing this, but I'm going to play devil's advocate for Oprah. She's in a "damned if you don't, damned if you do" situation.

If she makes a fool out of Assy, she hears from all the African American organizations, all the "strong, black women", etc and Assy just turns around and says Oprah's jealous of her, blah, blah, blah.

If she makes a fool out of Ereka, she hears from everyone else.

She had to walk a fine line between calling Assy a liar and letting Ereka know the "N" word is not acceptable. That's a "tough one".

Oh, this is the "physical attacks"? What. Ever.

Of course, the piece of plaster was a "serious injury".

I hated all the attention Assy got by being on Oprah. Just hated it - I kept thinking that if I'd never see the Apprentice, I'd probably think Omarosa was the 'good one' and that Ereka was a belittling, whiny bitch, although Oma's pageant smile (she looked like her mouth was going to crack at one point, she was smiling so tightly) was very eerie and very robotic. And the way she kept going on and on (like a robot) about "I've forgiven everyone and moved on, etc., etc." was just spastic.

The one saving grace to the show, IMO, was that it was clear the audience was NOT Assy's stories...and the looks from Carolyn (you could tell she was thinking, "Yeah, whatever, bitch, we know you're crazy and lying!") were priceless. I just wish Trump had not given Assy so many kudos and that they had had her sit in the audience the way Ereka/Heidi had (they could have had Assy sitting apart from them) - you just know that Oma thinks she is extra special and 'in the right' and "admired by Oprah" since she was on stage with Oprah and Trump.

ETA: Carolyn looked fantastic - she looks sooo young, so much prettier also than on the show. The woman has fabulous skin, looks like she barely even wears makeup. Love her!

Also, Heidi looked adorable - has soft bangs now which really flatter her. She was very funny on the show, very cute.

I didn't even think of that. I guess the way she was describing it, it seemed like a much greater offense occurred. The look on Erika's face was priceless when Assy was describing getting grabbed and pulled. I think she said the words physically attacked and the Katrina incident doesn't really qualify as a physical attack in my opinion.

Some other bits (I came here to post the link myself, but Tashanir beat me to it):

Katrina is still "happily engaged." Ereka refers to a boyfriend.

Katrina does one hell of a backpedal with this:



(Guess I just imagined her "I was DUPED!" comment to Trump.)

There's also a chat transcript from Sam (huh? context?) at the same webpage...he wonders aloud if his feistiness has to do with his short stature, thinks Nick is going to win, thought Troy was "ruthless."

While I would've probably punched Katrina if she had grabbed my arm like that, I wouldn't have called it a physical attack or physical violence. My take was that Assy was about to walk away from Katrina (like she always did when someone was trying to resolve an issue with her) and Katrina grabbed her arm to stop her. I thought Assy's steel-toned, "Do NOT touch me" was impressively self-controlled, but calling it a physical attack is just another s-t-r-e-t-c-h on her behalf.

To Holly:
Would it qualify as a physical attack if the situation had been reversed?

My thoughts on the Oprah show:
Omarosa, cause I can't call her rude and continue to call her out of her name, IS A TRIP!

Whether its true or not, its obvious they can't handle her. Ereka came across as the same shrill harpy she was on the screen. And Ereka too did not give a direct answer to Oprah's question if she said the word. Just answer yes or no.

I have to give Heidi props though. She came across with real class today and let's not forget how she told DOnald she wasn't going to let him pit her and Omarosa against each other.

But the biggest disappointment has to be with Oprah herself. I thought she didn't do these shows where she brings people on to argue anymore. Didn't she say she had moved on beyond that? In my opinion, they were all used for ratings today.

I have to say, I was impressed with Assy on Oprah. She is extremely shrewd and well-spoken. I think she really knows how to modulate her voice and keep her emotions in check. She was very articulate and seemed to have a consistent soundbite. You can tell she worked in politics because she completely narrowed in on everyone's weaknesses and used them to her advantage while maintaining the semblance of taking the high road:

* She played Trump. She was charming, ingratiating and constantly stroked his arm in affection. I think even Trump was impressed with how well she played everyone. He was on to her game, and I sensed some grudging admiration. Heidi and Ereka were clearly out of their league. Assy is a top-tier manipulator. I bet Clinton must've lurved her. Even Trump crowed about how much he liked her and how "unbelievably talented" she was.

* She let Ereka implode on herself. (sigh) I really wish Ereka had prepared for the show more. She walked right into all of Assy's traps. Assy zoomed in on all the post-show Heather's gossip-mongering about on-set hook-ups and who was sleeping with who - including Ereka's flirtiions with producers - as proof that the cameras weren't on 24/7. She also managed to slyly slip in Ereka's unemployment.

The worst part for me was that Ereka did not flatly deny that she did not say the n-word. She danced around it said the word "wasn't in my vocabulary" or crowed about her friendships with the other women. Even when Oprah asked Ereka directly if she used the n-word, Ereka did not answer her, instead she started babbling about Assy's lack of credibility. She should have just looked directly into the camera and calmly and wholeheartedly denied it. I wanted her to say, "I never called Assy the n-word." For whatever bizarre reason, she failed to do this.

In the end, Ereka came off looking like a pip-squeak.

* She used Heidi to validate her claims. I was disappointed in Heidi. So was Trump obviously. I wish she would have taken a stronger stance against Assy, Instead, she let Assy trod all over her and manipulate her by citing their friendship etc. Even when Trump turned to her and asked her directly about the n-word accusations, Heidi just waffled. When did Heidi become so spineless???

All I have to say about Assy is, damn, she is good. She's incredibly smart and ruthless. Those women were no match for her. If Trump didn't step in and take her out himself, I have no doubt she would have gobbled them all up.

I lurves me some Oprah, but she gave Assy a total pass. It ain't easy to be fired from a low-level White House job as under, under, under secretary -- or whatever. Twice.

That woman is a legend in her own mind.

Nope. A physical attack (and this is just my point of view) is a lot more than grabbing an arm to pull you back into a conversation. If Omorosa had done the same to Katrina, I would have absolutely the same opinion. Unless someone advances himself or herself toward me and shows an intention to and/or actually pushes, shoves, or moves me in some way, I don't think it's a physical attack. Attack is a strong word. Was it a physical encounter? Yes. Attack, no. Reversal would not qualify an attack whatsoever, in short.

I don't know about that.... Maybe if continuing to talk over everyone while they were trying to get a word in edgewise. I thought that Oma was incredibly rude. She just kept yapping and yapping when people tried to speak, throwing out the Ereka flirting comment or the need to get a job coment, blah blah blah. And she even kept speaking over Oprah. Why didn't Oprah call her on it?

While I was getting frustrated that Oprah didn't cut through the crap and get to the meat of things all that well, I also felt like she wasn't exactly backing Oma up either. Sometimes letting statements stand on their own can make a point just as well. There was a definite moment after Caroline confirmed that Oma was "not credible" where the statement was just allowed to settle in. And I wish we could've heard more from Heidi.

And I heard Katrina and Ereka on Boston talk radio on my drive home this afternoon. Katrina actually addressed getting "duped." She stated that Troy tried to confuse things by claiming apt. #2 (the one they both wanted) was called apt. #1, saying he wanted apt. #1. When they still couldn't agree, they decided to leave it up to the realtor who (of course) chose Katrina. Troy then whined so much that they both finally gave in. This sounds about right for Troy, don't you think? (sarcasm)

I agree. Oprah was in a tough position and really did the professional thing by not stating her opinion so it didn't look like she was "attacking" a guest. That being said, her face said it all anyway. "Omarosa is a crazy ass bitch".

WORD. She knew exactly what buttons to push with him. And that big button was his ego. She stroked it for all it was worth. And like I said up thread, I think if Trump knew 100% that Ereka didn't say it, then he would come out and say that she didn.t



Ereka obviously didn't prepare for this interview. I think she thought that she would have Heidi there to defend her, but Heidi really didn't. Heidi just seemed to want to stay out of it. Ereka definitely danced around the "n-word" allegation, without a doubt. Ereka's biggest detractor is her inability to communicate effectively by removing her emotions. Yes, Omarosa does seem robotic, but that's because she takes her emotions out of her statements. Ereka just regurgitated the whole "that word is not in my vocabulary", which I don't by FOR A SECOND. Her whole defense was to try to put Omarosa down. And, like I stated earlier today and weeks ago, Omarosa completely called her out on the fact that she (Ereka) was the one who alligned herself with the whole allegation by insisting on going on The View and rebutting. Ereka claims that Inside Edition called her after they filmed Omarosa's interview and told her what Omarosa had said and THEN she decided to go on the View. Ereka also claimed that the Inside Edition interview was filmed BEFORE The View. Based on what a colleague of mine told me weeks ago when this first came out--the Inside Edition piece was filmed AFTER The View. Ereka did herself in by jumping in front of any camera possible and spouting on and on about this.

Physical encounter or whatever, still you don't put your hands on somebody else's person. And I truly believe that if she had grabbed Katrina, the outrage would have been heard in outer space.

And she did bring up a good point; she never actually said Ereka's name but yet Ereka played into her game by jumping and saying, she's talking about me! She's talking about me!

Why? Why would Ereka assume she's talking about her? Idiot.

And now O's setting up Katrina by bringing up the grabbing incident. And watch Katrina come out screeching about what her grab really meant. They need to grow up.

WORD! I don't think I'd like it much if Katty grabbed me like that. That was out of line. Katty needs to grow up. Even if you're mad, and even, no especially, if you're dealing with an Assy-type, NEVER grab people.



That's the part I really didn't like. I felt like Ereka never really answered the question. Why could she not just say, "No, I never called Assy the n-word!" Instead we got all this "That word is not in my vocabulary" or "Omarosa is not a credible person", "I'm friends with the other women"... Just answer the question, Ereka! She really just hanged herself with all her babbling.

If it's any consolation, BibiBella, I haven't watched The Apprentice since the first episode, and Omarosa came off as insufferable to me today. I tend to be extremely distrustful of people who won't engage with others to have an argument on its merits--including, as a corollary, those who try to drown out their adversaries with repetition.

I was also left thinking: "How 'intelligent' can you really be, especially in a business sense, if you have to have Donald Trump teaching you not to be oppositional toward everybody around you?" DUH.

I agree that Ereka would have been more effective had she denied Omarosa's accusation in just so many words, but at the same time I think that by saying, "That word isn't in my vocabulary," she thought she had, in no uncertain terms.

If Oprah wanted to appear unbiased, it was a bad call to have the two parties seated on different levels.

IIRC, On The View, Omorosa cited the pot-kettle incident in connection to the "n" word allegation (something like she wasn't really responding to the pot-kettle, but to that person having really called her the "n" word). So it's a little glib to say that Ereka's the one who aligned herself with the allegation and that Omarosa never said it was Ereka. Yes, she never said Ereka's name, but she cited an incident that could only logically be referring to Ereka so it was completely reasonable for Ereka to defend herself.

Yes, in the context of the conversation, it could be said that it was implied that Ereka was the person who used the slur. But that still doesn't change the fact that Omarosa never came out and said from whom the comment came. Ereka didn't HAVE to come out and defend herself--she CHOSE to. Had she just sat back and shut up and not let her mouth move faster than her brain then she would have realized that Omarosa only wins if she feeds into the game. Omarosa was likely baiting her. Ereka, ruled by ego and emotions, took the bait.

I get that Ereka would want to defend herself--anybody would-...but if she didn't say anything and Burnett/Trump had solid proof that she didn't say anything then she wouldn't have to defend herself at all. Trump/Burnett would publicly defend her, condemn Omarosa and that would be that. But that's not what is happening here. NOBODY actually came out and defended Ereka, they just said that ther was no evidence that she did in fact say it. But they don't have ANY evidence to prove that she DID NOT, unequivcably, no room for doubt didn't say it.

If Ereka claims to put no stock in Omaorosa's words, claims that everyone thinks she lacks credibility, etc then why not just rely on those points to prove her case? Why fuel it, give people reason to doubt her, make herself look worse when she KNOWS she does not deal with confrontation well? If Ereka had a shred of self-awareness and confidence, then she'd feel that her words carried weight, that people believed her and that there was no question in people's minds that she didn't say it and there was no further reason to defend herself. Ereka is using this to keep in the public eye and it's shameful.

Clearly the stars of the show were Trump and Omarosa, so they got priority seating. Ereka and Heidi are lightweights. It was funny how they also had shots of Assy and her entourage in the waiting room, like some prize fighter waiting to enter the ring. I think Assy is one of the break-out stars to come out of this show. She's the most evil villian I've ever seen on reality TV. Even Trump seemed to be in awe of her. However, I do think that if another Apprentice star of an equal calibre, like Troy, were on the show, he would have gotten priority seating too. It's just pecking order. Most people tuned in to see Assy. As much as we all love to hate her, she's good for ratings.

I'm sure that Donald and MB, the good execs that they are, are choosing their words very, very carefully in public to avoid a lawsuit or other scandal.

As for O's "touching" of Donald during the Oprah show--whether he likes her personally or not, TD knows that Omarosa has helped to make him a lot of money, and, there is that old addage about "dancing with the one who brought you".

I am also in the camp that believes that Ereka should have quit while she was ahead. If she had just come out after the accusations, did one or two well-placed, tasteful interviews in which she simply and calmly denied the accusations, citing strong supporting evidence, and then had gone into seclusion, not showing her face anywhere that there was a camera, she might have ended up OK. At the beginning I think the majority of people believed her and felt she did a decent (if not great) job of defending herself. But her constant media appearances since then have done nothing to help her. She should have hired a media consultant very early on who could have told her all this. And as for either her or O wanting to "put it behind them?--Bull! If that was true they wouldn't still be doing interviews. Because we all know there is no way that an interviewer is going to ignore the issue.

I found this curious as well. Oprah tried to settle it by coming right out and asking Ereka if she did or didn't say it. Why Ereka didn't take to opportunity to just say NO is beyond me, and came off as a little evasive. Not good.

As far as Assy goes, that woman was the devil with a pink suit on. I wouldn't go one-on-one with her without a crucifix handy. Damn, is she good at manipulating people--it's evil and yet fascinating. Even Trump had to give her props.

Trump's reception by Oprah's audience? ROCK STAR!!

I think this must be true...and at the same time, I'm frustrated by what I saw today. Omarosa's abusive beyond words--and she stoops to the equivalent of name calling, inuendo, and accusation. It did my heart good for Carolyn to look her straight in the eye and announce that "her credibility was lacking"--and watch Oma just try to dismiss Carolyn's pronouncements.

On the other hand, I'm always amazed at how often people accuse others in a way which actually confirms for all who listen that they're literally guilty of exactly the same thing. Ereka called Omarosa a liar for her statements accusing her of using the n-word; but you know she was lying about calling her that because she simply evaded the issue, and tried to distract us from the truth. Omarosa may be an exaggerator, a bully, a viperous accusor, and a provocateur: but she does all of this because this is how she gathers--and uses--all the information about others' weaknesses so effectively. She may have been a failure in political life, but she's no slouch in knowing--and using--her very own Machiavellian tactics. And Ereka is definitely out of her league on that.

You're absolutely right, choco. I think Oprah herself would have been better served, though, by giving Omarosa and the other contestants parity in their physical placement.

Hi ChaCha...Can you explain the above comment. I'm not clear on whom you are referring to-Omarosa or Ereka.

In the context of the show, I am not quite sure how Erika (I can't believe I am defending this woman) was supposed to get a word in edgewise. How the hell is she supposed to answer the woman's questions when Assorama would not SHUT THE HELL UP??? Anytime some one tried to defend themselves, or make a statement, she just stomped all over their words. As someone else already stated, nothing drives me nuttier than when you try and have an intelligent debate, and the other person thinks that by stepping all over words, it makes them right. E seemed to try several times to say she didn't do it, and I know I heard her say the word is not in her vocabulary, which to me says, she is saying no. She said she found it horribly offensive, and in poor taste, and didn't actually say "no", but geesh, cut her a little slack. No wonder Assy worked for the White House under Clinton (ha, no pun intended), she could write a book on spin doctoring.

Some on this board have also stated that there was no way Oprah could have pleased everyone, but PULEEZE, I have heard Oprah say it to others on her show, "Honey, just take a deep breath".



Oh no, I know you didn't just say that. Clearly, CLEARLY Carolyn my BFF should have been on that stage, as well. I heart Carolyn, and there are myraids of fans behind me. She is a bright shining star amongst these pathetic women that have been portrayed as intelligent women on this show.

If Oprah didn't confront Assy with her many other sins (resume plumping, screwing the people at the White House by misrepresenting herself to get a better job elsewhere, constant contradictory statements to the press, in your face behavior to innocent bystanders as well as to people she SHOULD have shown respect to, crying wolf about "see-ment", etc, etc, etc.) then she did indeed give her a "pass". The "N" word and pot/kettle incidents have almost become a drop in the bucket floating in her sea of lies and boorish behavior.

And getting back to the mentions made a few pages about Katrina talking about Nick and Amy having sex... I'm at least skeptical there too. Did she hear actual moaning and groaning, or did she just see the two of them go into a room together at some point and dissapear for a half hour?

Amy, wherever she is currently, must be DYING to say something to the press over the past few weeks and can't. As much as many here have grown cold on her... how unfair is that? She's nothing but a target until she can talk, and likely by then (unless she goes this week) nobody will be listening anymore.