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kattam6175
Easy. Assorama helped her write her resume.
SerendipityCA
Hmmm, I'll try to be careful speculating about Amy and Nick, as in did they or didn't they, because it's soooo not my business ... but then I think, on the other hand, the AW's were supposedly mic'd 24/7 and had a total of 28 cameras on them at all times, so they must have known TPTB might air whatever they did for the world to see.

So, trying to stay on the right side of the voyeuristic line, I'll just mention that when they first got to their suite in Atlantic City, and Katrina was teasing them about sharing a bed...didn't we see a shot of Amy in bed, with the lights off, followed immediately by a shot of Nick closing a bedroom door - a door to a darkened room? I got the distinct impression from the editing that both Nick and Amy were behind that door...

{aside: I wonder if cameramen get fired along with the AW's - after all, they don't need as many cameras on 5 contestants as they did on 16!}....
TiffanyNichelle
Watching Katrina's interview on Extra today was a laugh riot. They kept cutting into it with shots of her strutting down the street in that black and white dress.

One thing I remembered her saying (besides Amy hooking up with Nick and Bill) is that she came on the show not for romance but for a job.

And yet, she was still fired. And Amy's still there. Hehe.

They also showed her fiance and she shoved her ring in the camera crowing about "8 years in the making!". Poor guy.
Jael
I saw Access Hollywood's interview with Katrina, too, and I caught the "cost her the job" reference to Amy. I was surprised that she would let that slip. I think maybe Amy does get fired.

As for the rest of the interview, I don't think Katrina's public discussion of Amy's sex life instead of promoting her own accomplishments any less pathetic than our sitting at computers discussing the AP's lives instead of out living our own.

I think the reason she brought it up is because it may have influenced the boardroom politics - just like office romances in real life may affect other co-workers if the people in them aren't mature enough to separate the home antics from the office ones. In this case, there was no "home" to go to in order to get away from it all, so it was probably even more annoying. Considering that all of the people involved were competing for the same job, Amy's comment about Katrina using sex in business was inappropriate. Amy was doing the same thing, just inside the ranks instead of with the customers.
kattam6175
So...Katrina's been selling real estate since she was 17 or 18 and has been with the same guy since she was 15? Sheesh. She sure was in a big hurry to "grow up", wasn't she.

What did her fiance look like? Did he have lapdog written all over him?

I don't think Katrina's public discussion of Amy's sex life instead of promoting her own accomplishments any less pathetic than our sitting at computers discussing the AP's lives instead of out living our own.
I wouldn't say we're pathetic or don't have our own lives. Besides, we come here for fun. Katrina's going on national television and trying to demean Amy because she's jealous and is out for revenge. That's more despicable than pathetic.
spice
I think the reason she brought it up is because it may have influenced the boardroom politics - just like office romances in real life may affect other co-workers if the people in them aren't mature enough to separate the home antics from the office ones. In this case, there was no "home" to go to in order to get away from it all, so it was probably even more annoying.


I agree completely. Katrina was entirely justified in bringing up Amy&Nick's relationship. In fact, Trump seemed to prompt it with his leading questions. Katrina contributed way more to this task than Nick did (what exactly did he do anyway?), and she deserved to know why she was brought into the BR instead of him.

It was also incredibly unprofessional for Amy & Nick to sleep together while sharing the same hotel room as Katrina. Frankly, I would never want to work with a new couple and have to watch their constant flirting back and forth, especially during a competition. I can honestly see how anyone could get irritated. Even Bill felt like a third wheel with Troy&Kwame. I'm sure Katrina felt even worse being stuck with Amy&Nick "playing each other".
DebB
I saw Access Hollywood's interview with Katrina, too, and I caught the "cost her the job" reference to Amy. I was surprised that she would let that slip. I think maybe Amy does get fired.

I believe that this is information that belongs in spoiler tags. I know it's speculation but it sounds fairly accurate.
txsunshine33
Don't forget to watch Jay Leno on the 31st. George and Caroyln will be on.
BibiBella
txsunshine, ooh, thanks for the heads-up about George and Carolyn on Leno!! I can't wait!
quickychick
I know it's the Post, but...looks like the BFF are as tight as ever. There's a pic of Her Bitchiness in some awesome earrings.
amybeth5251
How can she be 23 and got her license at 17 and went to college a got a 4.0 all the while being the number 3 realtor in the World?


To be fair, the Realtor Magazine Top 30 focuses on capital, not quantity. If she is being a realtor in a HPA (High Profile Area), such as Miami Beach, then she could easily make those ranks. As for her skills at selling the properties, I have no doubt in my mind that she used her Sex Appeal to sell the amount she did. Because, let's face it, when you think of Millionaires living in Miami, do you think of classy George and Carolyn types, or greasy looking, overly tan playboys?
Penarol1916
I agree completely. Katrina was entirely justified in bringing up Amy&Nick's relationship. In fact, Trump seemed to prompt it with his leading questions. Katrina contributed way more to this task than Nick did (what exactly did he do anyway?), and she deserved to know why she was brought into the BR instead of him.


This isn't about Katrina bringing it up in the boardroom, this is about her talking about Amy's sex life to all of these other interviewers, I suppose because there is nothing remotely interesting about her and it is the only way she can stay in the limelight. That is just 20 kinds of inappropriate.



Considering that all of the people involved were competing for the same job, Amy's comment about Katrina using sex in business was inappropriate. Amy was doing the same thing, just inside the ranks instead of with the customers.


Amy's comment was that Katrina didn't have anything else to go to when the sex didn't work, Amy was complaining that Katrina wasn't trying anything else, Amy actually has other weapons in her arsenal besides being the girl who anounces that another girl is a slut.
goobaletta
Ratings news about the most recent episode. Apparently more people saw Katty get fired than even Omiseria! Isn't that just delightful? I can't help but wonder if the NCAA tourney hasn't done NBC and TD a yoooge favor. All those folks who watch CSI with such dedication apparently watched TA instead. The question is, will they cmoe back to TA or return to CSI?
emmabay
Why does anyone actuallly believe that Amy and Nick were intimate? or Amy and anyone else for that matter? As far as I know, Katrina is our only source on this matter, and we all know she has an ulterior motive, i.e., she hates Amy. That sure doesn't make her a credible source in my opinion! Until I see further proof of these allegations against Amy, I'm chalking it up to a jealous cast-off who is trying to bring someone else down with her.
SerendipityCA
Why does anyone actuallly believe that Amy and Nick were intimate?


You're right that we shouldn't take just Katrina's word for it. But if anybody recorded the episode and wants to check, I'd be interested to know whether you could tell from the tape whether Nick and Amy shared a bedroom. IIRC, the editing suggested that they did.

But...even assuming they wanted to sleep together, it would have been more discreet if Amy had pretended to take the second bed in Katrina's room, then snuck into Nick's room during the night. She'd have had a better chance of going unnoticed if she did. Somehow I can't quite believe that they'd have a cameraman awake and filming in a darkened hotel room at 3 am. Boy, if I were an AW in that case, I'd have a hard time sleeping - it would creep me out!
Circling Shark
I'd be interested to know whether you could tell from the tape whether Nick and Amy shared a bedroom. IIRC, the editing suggested that they did.


I didn't think it looked that way. IIRC, the last shot before fade to black was Amy lying in bed looking contemplative, with a voiceover that said something like, "Where will this go? It's time to find out." Which, I suppose, could suggest she got up from the bed and went into Nick's sleeping area, but I just didn't think so. I think if Katrina is right and they did have relations (ohmigod I sound like an old fogey) it happened at some other point. However, in general I think Katrina is just obsessed with Amy, and the whole thing's fabricated to begin with.

I really need to start taping the episodes so I can go back and review the finer points brought up here. I haven't thus far because I'm hoping for a DVD set...
Dr. Needles
Why does everyone care who Amy slept with? What about who Nick slept with? This seems so much the double standard.
ClaytonBigsby
There's no double standard. Katrina brought it up as "Amy slept with Nick", not the other way around.
SerendipityCA
Why does everyone care who Amy slept with? What about who Nick slept with? This seems so much the double standard.


I don't think we're talking about who Amy slept with. We're talking about whether Amy and Nick slept with each other. And if the focus is more on Amy, it's because we're reacting to Katrina's accusations, and those were all about Amy.
DariaG
I think it's because Katrina is obsessed with Amy and talking about her. That's because a) Katrina has nothing to say about herself, b) Katrina always has to have an enemy, c) Katrina seems to think there's something wrong with her enemy du jour having sex, and d) Katrina is stupid.
whip1
I vote for D.
Wrigley
I vote for D, twice.

(I'm from Chicago, where where the motto is "vote early, vote often.")
Grifter
Katrina brought it up as "Amy slept with Nick", not the other way around

To be anal about it, Katrina just said Amy slept with one of the other candidates during the show and another since the show ended. We've all just assumed they are Nick (during) and Bill (hence).

I don't think the debate is over Amy being unworthy of the job because she slept with (we're guessing) Nick. Dr. Needles's question should be directed at Katrina. Why, in all her interviews, isn't she saying "Amy and Nick were sleeping together and they teamed up to get me out!" She seems to only see fault in Amy sleeping around.

However, I also agree with some of those above who say if Amy and Nick were doing it in an obvious fashion (i.e banging headboards, loud sex), I can sympathize with Katrina.

ETA Hey, I'm a Loyal Viewer! I'll have to post 400 more messages today and keep moving up the ladder!
Tashanir
I know it's the Post, but...looks like the BFF are as tight as ever. There's a pic of Her Bitchiness in some awesome earrings.


Don't both of these women have boyfriends? Why don't we ever see them with their signifigant others? I can just imagine Ereka and Katrina telling their boyfriends to stay home while they went out and parties.

Can we start a pool to determine when Katrina calls off her engagement and moves in with Ereka?

Also, if Amy and Nick did sleep together....where's the footage? Since when doesn't sex sell? I would think if they did hook-up we'd see some of it.
Forestranger
I vote for D, twice.

(I'm from Chicago, where where the motto is "vote early, vote often.")


LOL!!!

How do I vote if I'm from Florida?
Wrigley
How do I vote if I'm from Florida?


Veeeeeery carefully.
Glark
Rimshot!
Dr. Needles
Perhaps it is Katrina with the double standard, but the fact that she thinks she can point the finger at Amy and make her look like a slut is reflective of society's standard. I also think she is dead wrong in saying the Nick is playing Amy. It seems to be the other way around.
emmabay
I agree with Tashanir! If they had slept together, we'd certainly see some sort of footage! Sex sells, and this show (and all others) is all about ratings - how else can you explain Omarosa!!
bettyfinn
This isn't about Katrina bringing it up in the boardroom, this is about her talking about Amy's sex life to all of these other interviewers, I suppose because there is nothing remotely interesting about her and it is the only way she can stay in the limelight. That is just 20 kinds of inappropriate.


One of which is that at this time, Amy has absolutely no chance to defend or explain herself. When Omarosa called Ereka out for being racist, Ereka was already fired, and could leap to her own defense.

Katrina must know how much longer Amy lasts, at which time she can explain her side of this story. But, man -- making accusations about someone who can't respond. If I were Amy, I'd be steaming right about now.
BibiBella
Katrina must know how much longer Amy lasts, at which time she can explain her side of this story. But, man -- making accusations about someone who can't respond. If I were Amy, I'd be steaming right about now.


While I agree that it's incredibly tasteless and wrong of Katrina to be doing this, I think Amy was dumb to put herself in this position in the first place. It's a well-known rule that you 'don't dip your pen in company ink' and even if nothing was consummated between Amy and Nick, enough was implied (and enough was seen by other Apprentice wannabe's) and Amy was dumb to go along with it or instigate it, whichever it was.

I've seen folks fired for office romances because it got in the way of working together, not to mention the negative impact it has on other team members --which is why Katrina did have a good point in the boardroom about the Nick/Amy thing, even if she does have the maturity of a 5-year-old. (It's one thing to have an office romance with someone in a completely other division, but with someone in your own department/on your same team? Really dumb - and seen all too often with folks who think they're indispensable to a company/team - perhaps like Amy and Nick both think).
boilergal
As a long-time viewer of Mark Burnett shows (I know, God help me), I am certain that there is no freakin' way that anything went on between Nick & Amy beyond what we saw. MB is famous for trying to portray minor friendships as steamy love connections for ratings (Greg Buis and Colleen Haskell from Survivor, season 1 - prime example). If anything was going on, we'd have gotten all the footage that could possibly be spliced together to build that story line.

Katrina has an ax to grind and she is doing it in the media during a time when Amy and Nick cannot defend themselves, based on their contracts. Absolutely disgusting. Where did they get these people?
drgirl
Saw Katrina on the Today show......loved how Matt Lauer called her out about her outfit.Talk about delusional. I really think she had a crush on Nick--remember the flea market episode where she told him he looked sexy and then he called her aside to ask her advice?From the next episode on,the Amy thing developed and she was left in the dust.
As for Amy and Nick having 'relations' well it doesn't necessarily mean it was the loud,headboard banging sort!!Could've been anywhere,anytime or even not at all.Thats just too personal to announce to the world on tv--the BR is one thing,this is another. Fine,if Assy was telling the truth about the 'n' word,it was something that affected her and needed to come out.This has absolutely nothing to do with Katrina now.She can't say she was fired because those two were sleeping together---TD would have fired Amy if he thought it was a loyalty thing--and I think he's been itching let her go since her BFF saved her ass.
Wonder how Katty would like it if the other contestants announced very personal details about her grooming habits,deodorant,toilet time?
whip1
Katrina must know how much longer Amy lasts, at which time she can explain her side of this story.


I'm just not sure I can give Katrina this much credit. Sure, she knows how long Amy lasts. But I don't see her wheels turning hard enough to figure out that she has so much time to get a story out before Amy discredits it.
nowandlater
I'm just going to keep telling myself that Katrina's 23 and blame a lot of her behavior on that. I'm not saying all 23 year olds are idiots, but I know I wasn't very mature at that age and it's the only excuse I can come up with.


Not that it makes a yooge difference, but Katrina's actually 24 years old.
spice
Campins is now looking at a potential book deal, a real estate talk show and endorsing razor and hair-care products -- even cellphones -- after the 24-year-old with flowing tresses and long legs became known as the ''sex symbol'' of the show.


Geez! Omarosa gets a sitcom, and Katrina gets a talk show.... I have a feeling these apprentices will never disappear from our TV screens.
goobaletta
I bet it's a local south Florida show. We've got them here around Memphis and even north Mississippi. Real estate shows are not that big a deal and the only way it would be profitable for her would be if she managed to get a cut of all the sales promoted on the show that get sold by other agents.

And as for a book deal? I'm smelling remaindered stench already, like with Omarosa's. No big publisher would go for either one at this point because they're over already. They just haven't figured that out yet.
viviane
There's a pretty interesting article in the New York Times on how reality TV shows are cast, using The Apprentice 2 as the primary example. At the very least, it offers a few insights into what TPTB are looking for and how the whole process works.

Here's the link: "Casting Reality TV Becomes a Science"
goobaletta
That's a fascinating article, viviane. Thanks for posting it!

My favorite quote in the article:
Of course, there is another, less pleasant, side to the unpredictability of the genre. "I don't want to get to the second-to-last episode of the season," Mr. Burnett said, "and find out that one of my contestants is on the Internet with a goat or something terrible like that."


Goat. Devil. Omarosa? Something to ponder...
Tashanir
Katrina has an ax to grind and she is doing it in the media during a time when Amy and Nick cannot defend themselves, based on their contracts. Absolutely disgusting. Where did they get these people?



I agree. Katrina, Ereka, Omarosa have all hit new lows with using their press appearances to seek out retribution rather than promote themselves and their abilities. And is it a coinicidence that the BFF's each have a bone to pick with one of the Amy/Nick duo? Ereka has made a point to swipe at Nick in almost all of her post show interviews. I mentioned once a few weeks ago that I felt Ereka was doing this to taint Nick in the eyes of The Donald, which lead me to think that Nick was one of the final two. Now, we have Katrina making specualtions in her interviews that she "hopes/thinks Nick will win."

What I can't understand is how these women can make such statements in their post show interviews without appearing to give secrets away. Are they so consumed with revenge/bitterness that they just say too much and can't control themselves? They have to know, on some level, that the press is not only looking to hear "their side" but also trying to get information out of them.
DariaG
Goat. Devil. Omarosa? Something to ponder...

One word: Photoshop.
spice
What I can't understand is how these women can make such statements in their post show interviews without appearing to give secrets away.


True. Katrina has been saying repeatedly in the media that Amy let her relationship with two of the men get in her way. This seems to imply that Amy&Nick end up in the BR next week, and Amy falls from grace (Nick gets the ax). Then we could probably conclude that Amy picks Bill, and their relationship becomes an issue. Finally, Amy gets the ax in the BR and Bill advances to the final 2 or 3.

Of course, this is all pure speculation, but if it turns out to be true, then Katty delivered up quite a spoiler.
Tashanir
Of course, this is all pure speculation, but if it turns out to be true, then Katty delivered up quite a spoiler.


But, by specualting that she hopes/thinks Nick wins, wouldn't that imply that Nick goes further on into the competition? Katrina would have to have known who else was sent to the Fired Apprentice Hotelroom because she would have seen them there. So, if Nick was at the hotel...then she would know he doesn't/couldn't win. However, she doesn't seem to comment on whether or not Amy will win.

Katrina seems more interested in getting her story out first so she can appear to have more credibility when Amy gets fired and takes here swipes in her post show interviews.
kattam6175
My guess is...Katrina watched Assorama get away with trash talking Ereka, so she figured she could do the same thing with Amy.

Finally found an article with quotes from Katrina's friends and co-workers. They say the real Katrina is nothing like the Katrina we saw on the show. I'm willing to believe she's smart and hard-working, but no one will convince me that she's not an emotionally immature, and spiteful b****.

Another Katrina article.

An interview with Katrina where she tells how she got into real estate, among other things.

Meanwhile, At Another Midtown Fashion Party… Nice outfit, Ereka.

Partying with The Apprentice

Interesting analysis of players when Heidi was still in it.

AmIAnnoying.com Assy's only ranked 6th out of all The Apprentice candidates. We MUST do something about that!

Yes, I'm a night owl
SerendipityCA
kattam6175, thanks for posting those links to the Katrina stories.

Katrina comes off pretty well in those two interviews. No cattiness at all (granted, one occurred before the show started to air, so she wasn't allowed to talk specifics), and she may very well have valid points about how she was portrayed on the show.

We see - what? - 43 minutes each week, culled from maybe several hundred hours of footage. If somebody followed me around with a camera 24/7 they could find bitchy moments, stupid moments, moments of staggering genius (NOT), moments of compassion, moments of pettiness, moments of swearing at other drivers for being on their cell phones, followed by my making calls on my cell phone while driving, LOTS of profanity (the f-bomb is my favorite word)...heck I sometimes eat cold chili out of a can when I'm in a hurry (but you have to scrape that congealed orange grease off the top first). They could spin me anyway they wanted to. Any of us, actually.

So what I'm saying is, I'm going to take EVERYBODY's portrayal with a grain of salt. Except Omarosa. She's loony toons, as borne out by her post-firing media appearances.

ETA response to Tashanir's post:

I mentioned once a few weeks ago that I felt Ereka was doing this to taint Nick in the eyes of The Donald, which lead me to think that Nick was one of the final two


OMG, you hit on something nobody else has mentioned! If the Donald watches TV, the fired AW's can totally try to influence him via their media appearances between now and April 15th. No fair, sequester the Donald!!!
LatestNightOwl
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../APPRENTICE.TMP

article in the SF chronicle on the show...it's more of an overview, but has some meatier stuff toward the end.
goobaletta
Woohoo! Darlin' George is going to be on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno Wednesday night, March 31st. I can't wait!

Trump's assessment of the casino task in Sunday's NY Post. Most interesting part is at the end of the article:
Throughout the episode, Campins behaved like an outsider.

She was observing from afar the romantically linked (Amy) Frank and Nick Warnock.

"Part of the success of a leader in a corporation is to make sure that all divergent groups can get along together," Trump said, suggesting the potential for disruption when an employee feels left out of the action.

"They may not like each other, but they have to be able to work together successfully."


Looking a bit worse for Amy now as that implies that she failed as a leader. Something to ponder at any rate.
Knick
Ugh.

I don't think she watches the show. I think she just talks to people who watch the show. I have to question her definition of the word "strong".
txsunshine33
Knick, this writer is all over the place and ends up nowhere in this PC article. I felt like this was a safe article - while saying Omarosa was a liar basically, but still keeping her in the category of legitimate "strong black women." You can't have it both ways. This writer should not have tried to get into a larger philsophical discussion by using Omarosa as the example and furthermore by making it seem like O was a victim from the beginning and could never win. That's bull. That woman blew it for herself and it's no one's fault. I just don't get how self-responsibility is not a valued trait anymore. Trump or the producers didn't make O a villian - she did it to herself. And if she's a liar, then that negates her being in the same category as anyone who should be respected or pitied.
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