Sophia, I think it was in SOD, years ago.

The Alex character and SL was whacked indeed. Alex was smarmy and charming but in a creepy, not Greg Sumner way. The actor, can't remember his name this second was adorable though. God, I just remembered the scene where Claudia has him over for dinner, then convinces him she poisoned his salad. Hee. Loved Claudia.

Funny, because while I'll defend Linda as misguided and needy due to a raging bitch for a mother, I have to say, I HATED Vanessa. Hated her. Her stupid voice. Her pathetic machinations. Ugh.

For me that was a latter year KL weak point, along with Pierce's whiplash inducing bad guy turn (although when he turned up in the backseat of Paige's car I remember jumping and gasping). But hey, that led to the awesome Greg and Mack working together on the really fast boat to rescue Paige scene, and for some reason I loved that.

And I asked way upthread about the two Sumner Group guys, but I think since, I've cleared my muddled head. They were Mort and Bob right? They always reminded me of Bert and Ernie. I loved Mort and Bob. They always brought the funny.

But hey, that led to the awesome Greg and Mack working together on the really fast boat to rescue Paige scene, and for some reason I loved that.[I]

I agree! Whenever Greg and Mack got along and worked on something together, I got a little thrill, like, "yay, my two favorite guys are cool with each other." Silly, I know.

Was Vanessa that tall, brunette with the English accent and horrible, horrible acting?

Uhhhh, Felicity Waterman as the weird Vanessa Hunt. Definitely a blind spot in the casting offices. My college roommate joked that she reminded him of a drag queen in a way, and I've never been able to get that image out of my head. I think she was one of the worst actresses ever on Knots. And yet she was handed so much material in the final season. [shudder/]

My favorite part of the Mack/Greg boat rescue, though, was Greg's brush with death (recounted afterwards). I was still smarting from Laura's being killed off, and he told everyone that when he'd nearly drowned, he saw Laura on the other side. I just wished we could have seen her too. Laura always brought out his humanity.

Did you know Mort and Bob were named after Mort Tubor and Bob Phillips, longtime film editors for the show? I have to wonder how much of the real Mort and Bob were in the on-screen Mort and Bob...characters like those were another reason KL stood out from the pack; recurring characters who brought the funny just by being there.

The first Knots Landing theme with BBC1 identification. It aired in Britain in 1982 but this episode was clearly the horrible "disco dance party" that led to Gary falling off the wagon, way back in the first season.

Also, a Search For Tomorrow closing theme from early 1980. Around the middle there is an ad for Knots Landing.

Though, I think Kate said that her hair was naturally brown and she had been dyeing it red.

Linda was brutally murdered. I was disappointed that she died. I think it was Lar Park Lincoln's wish to leave the show. I remember that I couldn't understand why she would want to leave after they built up her character.

Linda and Greg's affair (she even moved in with him) just made Paige hate her more. I was not a big Paige fan, so maybe that's why I liked Linda (sometimes). They were good adversaries. I didn't hate Paige, though.

I know William Devane said his favorite pairing was with Constance McCashin's Laura. He felt they had a Tracy and Hepburn chemistry.


No matter what he does, I always remember Doug Sheehan as Joe Kelly on General Hospital. But, yes, he did Clueless, and he had the show Day by Day with Linda Kelsey.

I remember reading that Lar Park Lincoln did not like the turn in her character. Go figure. Linda went from being boring to being incredibly nasty and fun to watch. I was so upset when that character was killed. And her murder scene was very well-done...a Psycho-sort deal when you feel like you really saw more than you did, but all the nasty stuff was actually kept offscreen. I still remember the way her eyes rolled up, and then we saw drops of blood fall on the carpet. Creepy. And then her bitch mother called at the start of the next ep with her usual unloving-mom shtick, as the camera panned slowly along Linda's body.

Aww, I'm glad to see others kinda liked Linda. If forgot about the mother calling and all. Did they actually solve and investigate her murder (I know, thanks to Daniel that Brian Johnston did it, but was her murder solved?) What happened to Johnston?

Linda was never a black hat, unless you put her next to a MacKenzie like Eric or Michael or Karen. She was a grey hat in the fighting with Paige. Hee. I remember her moving in on the old man (Greg). I remember a great scene of Paige chastising herself for not being able to think of a witty one-liner when she walked in on them in flagrante in Greg's office. She then imagined several outcomes. One was her pouring the champagne bucket on them!

Hee Daniel hated Felicity Waterman too! Good taste man. She blew. And she wasted a ton of time in the final season.

I read an interview with Lar Park Lincoln where she made it quite clear that she didn't want to leave. A new (lousy) writing team had taken over, and they were responsible for her grisly murder. It was quite shocking for Knots, what with her basically being gutted that way. But I wasn't a fan of hers, either--her hair seemed to get blonder and blonder as she got bitchier and bitchier.

At any rate, Lincoln had been quite pregnant around the time she was seen cavorting with Sumner in the offices, but had returned from maternity leave and was eager to see what would be next for Linda when the new writers bumped her off. Seems Knots has something against new mothers; just ask Constance McCashin circa 1987.

Speaking of 1987, when you watch Gary's phone conversations with "Sally's Friend" (in the tail-end of the 1987-88 season), that's actually Lar Park Lincoln as the stand-in! They staged it to make you think it was Teri Austin, but Lincoln admitted it was actually the back of her head.

I remember, at the time it happened, it was reported to be Lar Park Lincoln's decision, but that may not be the complete truth. I found this:



I found it here.

That's right! Gawd, she was awful. This is kind of embarassing, but back back then I did know that Vanessa was played by an actress named Felicity somethingman, so years later when I read that William Macy had married an actress named Felicity Huffman, I thought "really? William Macy married that horrible, horrible actress on Knot's Landing?" I just couldn't believe that an actor of Macy's caliber would marry an actress as bad as her. I quickly learned that Waterman and Huffman are two different names ;)

Hee Dawniebaby, that's funny!

OK, someone with a longer memory than me help me out. How frequent were the Dallas crossovers? I remember a couple but only vaguely. And I know the shows broke ties completely after the Dallas "Dream Season", since the KL writers had Val name her son for Bobby specifically because he was dead.

Also, I remember that Mack came on the show to investigate Sid's death, but how did Greg initially come on? Was he the Senator then?

The Dallas crossovers rarely worked, mostly because the characters of Dallas were so much "larger than life" than the normal folk of Knots Landing, but in the early years the network wanted the KL producers to keep doing the crossovers.

Bobby appeared in the pilot episode of Knots, just to help Gary and Val move in.
They had JR come to town in an attempt to drill for oil off Knots Landing's beach. Gary, Val and Karen teamed up to stop him (Karen actually made him believe she was seducing him!). Later, when Val had a cancer scare, Bobby came to town again to offer Gary support. Lucy visited when she found out that her parents had reconciled, but she ultimately decided to go back to live in Dallas (because she realized she'd have a harder time keeping up with the better actors). Shortly after JR was shot and Kristin Shepherd fled Dallas, she visited Gary and Val, caused some trouble, and left again with the "big secret" that she was pregnant with JR's baby. When Jock died and left Gary 10% of Ewing Oil, Abby slept with JR to find out just what Gary stood to inherit. There was also a "double crossover" where Gary appeared on Dallas, and Bobby appeared on Knots.

Like you said, they put an end to the Dallas crossovers when the dream season occurred. The only vague mention of the Dallas bunch was when Val "sort of died" in the final season and Gary mentioned trying to contact Lucy--but she was no-show for the faux funeral.

As for the other question, Greg was a California assemblyman when we first met him, and he was running for the US Senate.

Thanks! Bows to Daniel82's knowledge.

I recently caught an ep when Kristin was there, and wondered if it was before or after she shot JR. I was never a Dallas watcher, but you'd have to have lived under a rock to not know that JR got shot and Kristin did it.

Also, hee about Lucy. She didn't need to "act". She had bouncy breasts.

Wonder what everyone's favorite and least favorite SL's and moments were? I love hearing about this show here, because TWoP'ers rarely disappoint in variety of opinons and intelligence. Sometimes fansites are scary.

Daniel82, you rock!! Loved reading the recaps.

My fave storyline (hard to pick one) was the Peter Hollister (Hunt Block) death. Abby thought her daughter Olivia had killed him, and when she found the body dragged it and threw it into some cement where a playground was being built (at Lotus Point, I think). Turns out he was killed accidentally while arguing with Paige, and he fell backwards onto one of those spike things next to the cash register in the restaurant they used to keep receipts in. I loved that storyline.

I still remember how it was a shock with Karen's first husband, Sid, died in the car crash, when the surgeon came out of the operating room and said "I'm sorry." I remember my mom & I looking at each other and yelling "HE'S DEAD!"

I really miss this show. Unfortunately, I don't have SoapNet. Maybe someday.

[rocks gently from side to side/] Thanks!

I, too, am SoapNet-deprived. Between missing my beloved Knots Landing and my even-more-beloved Another World, I'm a pretty glum chum. Anyway.....

I also loved the Peter Hollister "murder" mystery. Until that story, I'd never know those things next to the cash register had a name. The episode title is just classic: "Do Not Fold, Spindle, or Mutilate".

I think I've already mentioned my Laura Avery lurrrrve, so I'll spare you the specifics--except for one. The story arc where she managed to woo billionaire Greg away from Miss Mascara herself, Abby Ewing, was very satisfying. Laura was very much like "one of us," while Abby was just...!Abby!, so having Greg choose Laura over Abby was such a hoot. And those barbs against Ruth? Laura would have fit in very well over here at TWoP.

I also have to mention with a certain amount of shameful glee that two of my favorite story moments involved Julie Harris's Lilimae. When she put the pedal to the metal and ran Chip Roberts over with her car, I was cheering. Karen may have been in the passenger seat, but all of America wanted to be along for that ride. And who can forget when she finally had had enough of Joshua's foolishness, spat such classic lines as "You are a spoiled, willful little boy!" at him, and basically shouted him off that roof? Great stuff!!

I'm sorry for those of you who don't have SoapNet. SoapNet has gotten me through a tough period of unemployment boredom, and a dull medical leave.

But today I got home just in time to see the saddest.KL.ever.

Sid's surgery. His speech to Karen on the tape recorder. His body crucifix posed on the operating table. The doctor talking to Karen, and her longest.walk.ever down the hallway to her family to tell them Sid died.

What? Don't mind me, I just have dust in my eye. {Sniffles} What? It's nothing.

On to happier things. {Sniff}. I loved when Peter got killed too. Abby trying to cover for Olivia (who she thought killed Peter). It was way funny. When I worked in restaurants we called that spindle, the Spike. Peter got spiked. Hee.

I've only seen a little of the eps where Greg and Laura got together, and ones with Ruth Sumner. It seems that every time I have time off and get to catch KL it's either the last few seasons that I remember from the first time around, or the very early eps. I hardly even remember seeing early Mac. And so I'm curious, what did you all think of Mac and Mac/Karen? I wonder if there was a lot of backlash because people loved Sid?

Also, for some reason I can hardly get enough Richard. He and Laura crack me up, and they always brought the snark. Hell, Richard even brought the snark in his return appearance for Laura's funeral. Another sad ep, but still not as sad as the one I just watched. {Sniff}

I've been watching the Saturday night repeats lately on SoapNet, where they've started over from the beginning...I had no idea Karen Allen played Sid's daughter from a previous marriage, or even that he had one. Although she was gone with no mention of her in the next episode.

...and she was nowhere to be seen when Sid died, either. Not mentioning her at least (perhaps an in-joke that she was "traveling in Egypt") was just wrong.

I was really happy when Mack came into Karen's life when the show originally aired. Sid had been dead for nearly a year (eons by soap standards) and she had been so despressing for so long that I was happy to see her bickering with Mack. Seeing his face in the opening told me (even at age 12 or so) told me he was "Karen's new man", and I approved. Seeing it all in reruns (where a season lasts...what, a month?) doesn't give the same impact because it seems we've barely gotten Sid out of the opening credits. And I really loved the fact that he was nothing like Sid.

Richard grated on me, but mostly because he was so realistically portrayed. He was like an uncle of mine (except for the corporate pimping, hostage-taking, the family desertion, and the cheating). Even at my young age I saw that Laura deserved so much better---and that's exactly what she got! Well, until the brain tumor, anyway.

Wow, I had completely forgotten about Karen Allen. They soooo should've done the Egypt thing to explain her absence when Sid died. That's the kind of thing KL did better in the later years.

I totally see what you mean about Richard, daniel. I think he was incredibly realistic and that JP was fantastic. But yeah, Laura always did deserve better. Stuipid brain tumor.

KL seemed to excel at making couples, and then breaking them up and re-pairing them with others without totally alienating any fanbases. Maybe it was the times and the lack of internet, but look at Gary/Val. They both went on to other, popular pairings. Same with Karen/Mack, people didn't hate Mack because of Sid it seems. And people ended up liking Greg/Paige even if they loved Greg/Laura.

Just saw another good early episode...the third one, where Karen considers having an affair with Diana's teacher but decides against it. I'm really enjoying these early episodes; I'd never seen them before. They're a lot smaller scale, and about domestic things, but I find that kind of thing interesting. I've read that the creator had Ingmar Bergman's Scenes From A Marriage in mind when he created the show.

Am I nuts, or does Michele Lee kind of remind anyone else of Kate Jackson...both lookswise and acting mannerisms?

And yeah, if you look up "weasel" in the dictionary, Richard will be grinning right back at ya. Damn, he's good at it, though!

I thought Michele Lee reminded me more of Victoria Wyndham. But, you know, prettier.

[snicker] Bad, Custom...[/snicker]

I recall a few months ago when they announced the big-screen "Dallas" movie that some friends and I started batting around actors to recreate the famous roles. We eventually lapsed into the idea of a "Knots Landing" movie, and Kate Jackson was actually one of our top choices to play Karen. My contributions were Cybill Shepherd and Mel Gibson to play Val and Gary; Julia Roberts could appear as whacked-out Jill Bennett; and Anne Heche could've finally injected some much-needed depth into Paige Matheson. One of my friends suggested Shirley MacLaine as Lilimae. And we all agreed only one man (other than Devane of course) could do justice to Greg Sumner--Jack Nicholson!

Oooh, I wanna play!

George Clooney as Mack. And Edward Norton as Michael!

I saw the Karen's flirtation ep the other day. It was very....
Word According to Garp

Kind of ho-hum.

This show is so funny at the beginning. I keep looking at Val and Laura and Karen and thinking, this is what they do? They kiss their husbands goodbye and then what? Apparently drink a lot of coffee and talk to each other all day.

I liked it better when they all had jobs and corporate intrigues etc. I mean, the early shows are good, but they are very Scenes from a Marriage.

Plus, I was unemployed for 5 months once and I began to identify with their lives waaaaaay too much.

MacLaine is perfect casting! And I've thought that over the last several years William Devane - who I have adored since "The Missiles of October" - has been morphing into Jack Nicholson's tougher, slightly hairier brother.

How about Ben Affleck and Matt Damon as Eric and Michael? Jane Fonda as Claudia Whittaker? Candice Bergen as Abby Ewing? Yes, it was highly addictive and still is. The biggest debate we had, however, was casting Laura Avery Sumner. I was leaning toward Annette Bening, since she and Jack Nicholson would make an impressive movie couple, but perhaps we could just coax Constance back to Hollywood to play her in a dream sequence or something.

Hey if anyone wants to read this and tell me if they say anything about Steve Brewer (Lance Guest)...well, that'd be great. I tried and failed. I know he was involved in Kate, it was toward the end. Don't tell me Google steered me wrong!

I went to high school with the sweet and adorable Lance. He starred in the Last Starfighter, and played a rookie journalist named Lance on the Lou Grant Show. I remember wishing his mom was my mom, she was so cool (sorry, my-Mom!)

I really hated it when they "updated" the theme song. But I had such a straight-girl crush on Nicolette Sheridan; she was very Lauren Bacall...that dead-on ballsy stare. Thought Devane was always interesting but wish he was less icky, more do-able.

I think Lance Guest, like Lar Park Lincoln, was a victim of the changes that occurred when most of the longtime producers/writers left KL at the end of season 12. Steve Brewer's parentage and the potential to re-structure the Sumner/Whittaker family dynamics was daunting, probably too daunting for the new season 13 writers, who could barely grasp who was married to whom, much less a multi-layered storyline such as that one with Claudia/Paul Galveston/Ruth/Greg/Steve. They took the easy way out by letting him get killed off just as the took the easy way out of writing for a complex bitch like Linda by killing her off, too.

I think you're right Daniel. The conclusion of Steve's SL felt rushed and tacked on or something. I remember being disappointed, because I loved his spark with Paige. I bet those two would have been hot, and a worthy temporary distraction from Paige/Greg without bringing back Tom Ryan yet again.

When did Val end up losing her accent? I watched a Dallas episode last night and she didn't have much of one at all. I saw the first episodes and it was there, and I caught a 1982 episode last week and it was still there. By 1989, though, it was almost completely gone. Can anyone explain?

Joan Van Ark never had one--she's from Colorado--and I think she wanted to lose Val's accent as soon as they would let her. It seemed to fade a lot when she was in scenes with anyone other than Julie Harris (who also faked her accent from day one but thought the accent helped her stay in character). After Harris left, the accent faded more, but it was gradual, and when Van Ark wanted Val to show that "feisty spirit" the accent seemed to totally disappear.

It made sense that Val's accent would fade, though, since Gary's did as well.

So, Saturday I watched an ep of Dallas, I've no idea which season, since I never really watched Dallas, but it had a totally different Gary! It was the first time Gary had been home, and Lucy took him to Fort Worth or somewhere to a diner where Val was. Same Val, different Gary. It was....disconcerting. Anyone have the scoop on what the deal was with Gary on Dallas?

Then later, I saw the KL ep where Lucy first shows up in KL. I believe that's from early in the first season. Boy am I glad Lucy went back to Dallas. Yikes she drove me nutty. Although actually, so did Val a lot of times. I like JVA, but Val drove me nuts especially in early seasons.

The Saturday night episodes now showing on SoapNet are from the very early years. Dark-haired David Ackroyd was the first actor to play Gary Ewing, and was only in that one episode. Blond Ted Shackleford was Gary the next time the character appeared, and stayed with the role for the run of KL.

Speaking of that, was it ever explained on either show why she never came back to live with them after she went back to finish the school year? Because that seemed to be the implication at the end of the KL episode when they made up, yet obviously it never came to pass.

I thought that was an interesting coincidence that they wound up with Gary and Val's first appearance on Dallas and Lucy's first appearance on Knots back to back like that...I guess it was the 6th episode of each series. But I really liked both episodes. Man, that was one dysfunctional backstory!

From what I've heard (which, admittedly, wasn't much), David Ackroyd (spelling?) simply didn't want to be tied down to a regular part, so when they decided to green-light the Knots Landing series, they recast Gary. I think TS was the better actor, anyway. What got really weird was when David Ackroyd (why does that spelling look wrong to me??) guest-starred on Knots Landing later on as a man who does some repairs on Val and Gary's house (and flirts with "Widow Fairgate").

I'm also glad they didn't bring Lucy over to Knots Landing. She didn't strike me as the type who would choose a middle-class cul-de-sac over a big, FAT mansion anyway. All the Dallas guest-stars on Knots seemed so out-of-place! Though I have to think that Bobby and Pam might have worked if Dallas hadn't needed them so much.

The Saturday SN ep is the one where the motorcycle gang comes and disrupts the beach and the cul-de-sac. Hee. It's so bad. The first season is so funny sometimes.

But itty-bitty Michael is so cute. I forget how damn many years this show was on, but when I see how young people were in the first season it makes me remember.

Someone help me out with a few points (Daniel, Custom, I know you can help):

How/when do Kenny and Ginger leave?

When I watch the weekday eps (rarely since I usually am not home in time) the whole Diana needs a kidney SL is going on (and what is it with this show and kidneys). I saw Karen ask Abby to donate, does she?

What's the deal with Ciji/Chip/Diana? How does Diana leave?

Mack and Karen camping/dating/bickering is hilarious. Mack in tiny, tiny tennis shorts is even more hilarious. Which is a roundabot way of asking, how soon is it that Sumner appears?

Someone offers Kenny a job and Ginger a contract in Nashville, so they move at the end of the 1982-1983 season.

Ciji got pregnant and Chip killed her. Since there was circumstantial evidence, Gary was indicted instead. Chip eventually got caught and was convicted, but escaped from the hospital (Lilimae ran into him with her car, and then when Mack found out that Chip killed Ciji, he was arrested and was to be moved, but skipped out). He then died in a freak accident (He sees Cathy at the Ewing ranch and, thinking she's Ciji, flips out. He runs away and falls on a pitchfork).

Yes, but Abby being Abby, she refuses to allow Karen to thank her. She insists that she did it "for Sid's daughter" (her niece). Of course they never mention again the plot point that Abby was living life with only one kidney after that.



Custom gave a good outline of the Ciji/Chip dynamic at the time of her death, but I will add that Chip only used Diana. He got her to basically steal a car from Knots Landing Motors for them to run away in, and of course he only married her so that she would not testify against him later on. She was just terminally stupid about him, and only well after his death did she get her facts straight and leave for New York. However....



The actual timeline had him run off with Diana, get arrested (for suspicion of murder), then released due to lack of evidence. He had confessed to Diana, but marital privilege was invoked and she wouldn't testify. As he was released, Lilimae ran him over (one of the all-time great moments of soap history, if you ask me). He was in the hospital teetering on the brink of death and Diana decided to blab everything. The cops/Mack went to arrest him again as Custom said ...but they only found the empty hospital bed. Diana (still as misguided as ever) hid him at the ranch while the cops searched for him. He was never actually put on trial the way Gary was. They never got the chance because........



Does he ever! Another great nighttime soap moment...and the first in a long line of gruesome deaths for Knots Landing villains.




He's already on the scene when the Chip/Diana story is going on. In fact, he shows up in Knots Landing in the episode just before Chip becomes Lilimae's Country-Fried Road Pizza. That's mere episodes after Kenny, Ginger and Richard depart. Not a bad trade-off, at all.

Oh man. Overall I'm really liking these early episodes and seeing how it all started, and I don't mind the slower, more introspective tone at all. But this? Yeah. Pure 50s B movie. PAINFUL.

But I have to say this has become a Sunday morning ritual for me...watch this and Dallas off my TiFaux from the night before as I have my morning coffee and exercise.

Thanks tons, Daniel!


...and that's why I wondered. I never, ever remember Abby having only one kidney. It just got forgotten, huh?



Bwah, ha, ha! You're right, that is one of the truly great moments. Lilimae irritated me sometimes, but running down Chip and shouting Joshua off the roof made her sooo worthwhile.

I remember that Ciji was pregnant, and that Chip killed her, but that Gary was arrested for it (god, is there anyone in KL he didn't nail at one point?).

Chip creeped me out, because of his turn as Lawrence on DAYS. I never liked Ciji or Cathy anyway. Bad, bad hair.

Jeebus, Sid's first wife was an obnoxious hag.

One other thing about these early episodes that kills me--everyone does everything together. Nobody ever goes grocery shopping by themselves or anything like that--it's always en masse. It's simultaneously kind of cool and kind of creepy.

(Several days later)

OK, so I think that with "Val struggles to study for her GED", we've hit the nadir of plot points, interest-wise.

Dude, Kenny and Ginger should have came back groveling to that poor Arthur dude. It's not HIS fault that he only grew to be the size of Tattoo on Fantasy Island.

And did I hear that right? Ginger just didn't tell Kenny about the abortion?

Ginger: I took care of the woman who was doing those horrible things to me.
Kenny: Cool. *kiss* Wanna fuck?
Ginger: Okay!

The horrible disco dance party that leads up to Gary's falling off the wagon is. on. NOW. Snarkage ensues.

Custom, I think that when you put the words "Disco Dance Party" in one sentence, the word horrible may actually be implied.

Man, did I hate early Val. So shrieky and doormat-y. But, it sets up more Val/Karen scenes, and hey, no one did female friendships the way KL did.

I watched my tape last night, and I found out that I taped the second part of two, but not the first, and especially not the part with the disco dance party. I almost cried. CRIED, DocHopper.

Yeah, that's some good point-and-laugh material missed there Custom. Especially since the show featured a "groovy" "hi-fi".

Caught some of the regular 5 pm eps on SN this week. Early Sumner cracks me up. And Ben, oh I loved Ben. I hated how he was written out. I can't remember if this is before or after the whole Galveston thing though, and I really want to see some eps with Greg's mom. Guess I'll have to start taping.

You could have pointed and laughed at me when I was watching the tape last night. My mouth was open, and I'm like, "How can I feasibly laugh at a drunk under the pier?"

Doc Hopper, you haven't missed the delightfully snarky Ruth Galveston yet. Of course, Paul will have to die before she can show up, but things get pretty damn good with Ava Gardner hanging out in Knots Landing. The exchanges between Ruth and Laura alone are enough to warm your TWoP-loving heart.

"I often wonder what Gregory sees in you, Laura."
"What can I say? I'm great in the sack."

I still say that in terms of sheer camp value, it's hard to beat "Motorcycle Gang Invades The Cul-De-Sac!"

Man, this show was VERY! SPECIAL! ISSUE! Central during this first season, wasn't it?

Yeah, but they skipped out on the VSE's I wanted to see. Ginger gets VD from Kenny. Laura "bobbits" Richard. And Karen and Sid realize that Eric is gay, gay, gay.

Glad I haven't missed Ruth Galveston, love me some Ava. I've never seen much of Paul Galveston either. Don't think he was a nice man, though, from what I've seen.

ETA--I just realized that my favorite male soap characters have "daddy" issues. Greg from KL. Jack on DAYS. AJ and Lucky on GH.