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lynettefl
I spaced out during Seasons 8 and 9, so I did not see the Doggett and Skinner love. Which episodes should I watch when the reruns air?
ejluther
They spend a lot of time together in VIA NEGATIVIA, I like to think that's when they started to fall in love...
http://www.xfroadrunners.com/epimages/seas...ativa/vn195.jpg
JimsBride
That would be my guess, what with the suggested pinching and all...
Lili Von Shtupp
Which was the ep where Doggett was complaining that Skinner never returned his phone calls? (or was it the other way around?) That was some fabulous hoyay.
AlejandraDD
From Provenance:
(Skinner's office. Night. SKINNER’S on his way out. He exits his office and finds DOGGETT sitting on the couch in his assistant’s office.)

DOGGETT: You forget our extension? Or you just can't be bothered?

(DOGGETT stands.)

SKINNER: Excuse me?

DOGGETT: Returning calls. Agent Reyes', mine. What the hell's that about?

SKINNER: Well, I've been tied up, Agent Doggett. I just haven't had a chance.

DOGGETT: That's not what your phone log says. Your log says you've returned everyone's calls but ours.

SKINNER: Agent Doggett, let me remind you who answers to whom here.

DOGGETT: Oh, I think you owe me an answer, sir -- and if you don't owe it to me, you owe it to Agent Scully -- on this X-File case the FBI's got. The one they're working so hard to keep us from investigating.

SKINNER: You ready for my answer, Agent Doggett? It's not an X-File case.

DOGGETT: That's why you have 40 agents combing the Canadian border for a dead man that ain't dead.

SKINNER: You don't know what you're talking about.

DOGGETT: I was out there.

SKINNER: Without any authorization!

DOGGETT: I don't understand -- none of us do -- why you're keeping their secrets ... why you're keeping quiet.

SKINNER: Because I know things you don't, John. And it's for your own good.

(SKINNER walks down the hall leaving DOGGETT behind. DOGGETT considers SKINNER’S words and wonders what it is that SKINNER could possibly know. DOGGETT turns to look at the closed door to SKINNER’S office.)

If you go back one page on this thread, you'll read all about me seeing the HoYay light with this particular scene. Though I didn't remember how strong it actually was.
Godmother
Mulder and Krycek never did anythng. I can tell you what happened to Alex. He's locked in my basement and I take him out to play whenever my boyfriend's not at home. This is the truth (and now it's out there).
:-D
SinatraChairman
No one ever dies on this show, and if they do, it's not a permanent affliction. So never fear.


Here, here, Mulder's died many times now, and CSM died a few, and don't get me started on Krychek...

Aaaahhh, the HoYay. I once made a desktop wallpaper that had a picture of Doggett and Skinner that read "Come on down to John and Walter's House Of Pie. Enjoy a bite to eat from our bakery or simply take a load off and have a nice steaming cup o' Joe. John and Walter's House of Pie, come for the food, stay for the HoYay."
lynettefl
I have seen the light!

In DEAD!ALIVE, the hoyay is so strong between Doggett and Skinner. The long looks and pissy comments...

How did I miss it?
fmu65
Word! Now we just have to convince Kanel...:)
oneloudbitch
Hey, is this thread just for Waltah and John? Or is "House of Pies" serving as a eupemism for "the HoYay! thread?"
Scrambled Eggs
Good question, OLB. There are so many Walter HoYay! possibilities. The scene in DeadAlive where Krycek beckons him into the elevator? Mmm.

Via Negative is full of Walter/John goodness. "Do you want me to pinch you?" And John gets so upset when Walter hides things from him, like Scully's health in this or Per Manum, or in Providence/Provenance with the whole "you never returned my message." Walter, stop keeping secrets from him!
ejluther
I say all stripes and varieties of Hoyay! are welcome here!
MeerkatNotMink
I just discovered that there's a Doggett doll (actually two Doggett dolls).

And the first thing I thought was that maybe this means that soon there'll be dolls of Skinner, and then maybe we could press them for a House of Pies playset... think of the possibilities!
grandefille
... (actually two Doggett dolls).


Did someone say Kevlar™? Hmmmmmmmmmmm????

Hee. Kevlar and HoP HoYay. The only two reasons I still have S8 and S9 on tape.

Whoops!

~ rushes back out cause the boss just walked in ~
ejluther
I'm confused - Isn't this the Skinner doll? ;-)
AnnieF
Hee!
csv
Double hee! He even has the hat from Triangle :)
no trust
Skinner stripper version, he he
kitschcakes
What's "The House of Pies"? [/clueless]
ejluther
"The House of Pies" is the Vermont pie shop that John Doggett and Walter Skinner opened after declaring their undying lust and love for each other. You don't remember this scene, you say? Oh, that's because it happened off-screen. I believe we have Jessica to thank for the "House of Pies" in one of her excellent recaps, but I can't remember which one. VIA NEGATIVA, perhaps?
jillyjilly
AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR good olde house of pies. my friend and i had damn good chuckle over that. just wonderin', if any aussies out there have any idea when the XF is gonna make a real return to TV? midnight is just not good enough.
clearwaves
So Monica must be jealous right? About Dogget and Skinner being together? I keep thinking of IHOP for some reason.

Finally, I know what "house of pies" is. I've posed that question many months ago in one of the other topics in the x-file threads...but the truth alluded me.
Kanel
Pie is gooood. Mmm pie.

So, does this mean Weeble and Bob are gay? I never made that connection, but the pie speaks volumes....
QuaranteDeux
Oh, that's because it happened off-screen.


Just like all of the other important relationship developments on this show.


(I'm still just a tad bitter.)
bartleby301
Sorry, but it was Skinner and Krycek who had undying love for one another. After Krycek returns from the dead, he and Skinner go merrily on their way. Mulder does end up with Scully at first, but she later dumps him for Doggett and Monica and merry hijinks ensue when the three share an apartment, and Doggett pretends to be gay to fool the noisy landlord.

(OK, I read a little too much Skinner/Krycek slash, and watch too many '70s and '80s sitcoms.)
The Wet Towel
I always thought Jessica was so tuned into the Skinner-Doggett romance when she wrote this:
Quantico is so convenient for Scully! She can teach a class, and then go cut up a couple of dead bodies over a couple of brews before she heads home. Moronica drifts down the hallway toward the autopsy bay, and stops before the window, watching Scully talking animatedly to Doggett. I was trained as a professional lip reader, so I can tell what they're talking about, even if Moronica can not. Scully's saying, "You can't let Walter treat you like that, John. Your relationship needs to be a priority!" And then Doggett goes, "I know. He's so consumed by work, I can barely get his attention." Scully's all, "You are preaching to the choir, girl," and then Moronica walks in.
atropos116
*bump* for Toga. Thinking about the House of Pies makes me miss the good old days of Jessica's recaps, when I was just a wee lurker.
Toga
Haha, thanks, atropos116 :)

Can we talk about all XF Hoyay on this thread or is it specifically for Skinner and Doggett?
atropos116
There isn't a more specific HoYay thread, so I think this is a good place for all House of Pie-ing. Because really, wouldn't Krycek and Mulder be great as small business owners?
Toga
They could run a speedo business together! :)

*cough* shameless link
FoxEstacado
They could run a speedo business together! :)


*cough* shameless self-pimpage *cough*

too much interest in the speedo?
Crass
I love The Link That Has No Shame!
ipso facto
I don't usually approve of budgie smugglers, but oh my! *fans self*

Ahem. That's not a kind thing to post for those of us who are single!
AnnieF
budgie smugglers

It may not be dog-related, but this is still awesome.

Budgie smugglers. Heehee!
Ouroboros
They could run a speedo business together! :)


Aww...the red speedo of lurrrrve!

What about Krychek and Skinner love? I thought that was popular until I got here and found out about the The House of Pies. I do love my John and Waltah. :D
Misirlou
In the interest of HoYay I present to you: HoYay on Ice!
smrou
That's my favorite HoYay of the series, Misirlou. That scene is super hot. What a sexy freakin' episode.
atropos116
HoYay on ice, you say?

Or was that Skinner and Krycek hoyay you were looking for?
Toga
Hee! to your entire post :)
Ouroboros
HoYay on Ice!


Love the HoYay in Ice, it's so...omg GA has chemistry with everyone. :D

But this has to be inculded as well: Group HoYay on Ice
Crass
Oh. My. Goodness. You people owe me a new office chair.
Benly
I love the House of Pies, Jessica was an AWESOME recapper.

Feeling completely clueless, could someone explain to me exactly what all this 'HoYay' business is? Greatly appreciative.
AnnieF
Hi Benly! HoYay! stands for Homoeroticism, Yay! There's a brief explanation of some of the more common TWoP terms here -- under "Misc."

I don't know how I missed HoYay on ice -- that's hilarious.
Misirlou
I was browsing YouTube when I found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V94gRyNKiV0

Hahaha, does this actually happen during the episode? I usually skip Kill Switch.
smrou
Ha! I never noticed that.
DaynaPhile
I love that part! I watch for it every time...like Scully is evaluating her abilities if she were called to the task. Hee!
Bastet
like Scully is evaluating her abilities if she were called to the task.


Oww ... I just literally choked on my drink. I've always loved that scene, but now I'll never watch it the same way again. Classic. Thank you.
SinatraChairman
I think this is appropriate for this topic. I posted it on one of the pixel challenges but just in case some of you aren't into those, and because I'm so proud of my crappy skillz...here you go!!

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/si...airman/pies.jpg
Starbucket
Bwah!

Hahahaha! Brilliant!
jennisaurusrex
Hoo boy.

Now that I'm well into Season 8, the Ho!Yay is running rampant. I always thought this thread was amusing, but I'm finally seeing what all the fuss is about-- Doggett and Skinner are in lurrrrve. I just pictured Dogget pulling an apple green sweater over his head in front of Skinner's bathroom mirror. ;)

This thread has not received nearly enough love, I gotta say.
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