The hostage situation in the ‘Duane Barry’ episode starts on August 7th according to a time stamp in that episode. So depending on how much time passed during that episode, Scully was probably kidnapped on August 9th or 10th.
In the episode ‘3’ when Mulder reopens the basement office, he changes the calendar from May to November.
That should mean that Scully was missing from mid August to sometimes in November or later (at least 2 ½ months).

But the tag on Duane Barry’s body in ‘Ascension’, states - according to the script – that he died in June:

It doesn’t make any sense – but it would mean that that Scully was missing from mid June to November or later.

Ah, the X-Files creed...

Wow. Those dates are pretty messed up. Even I can't wrangle some excuse for that one and that's saying something! Wait! Maybe Mulder just fancied the calendar's November photo (even though it was really still September) and, um, Duane Barry's toe tag was tampered with by the Men In Black (directed by CSM) and, consequently, the toe tag is THE KEY TO EVERYTHING!!!!

I remember (but can't replicate) a similiar situation with Luke Doggett; the year of his death flucuated wildly at one point. Dates are certainly not their strong suit. Samantha's birthday changed, too, yes?

Samantha's birthday, her middle initial, and the date of her death.

I hate 1013.

DP but 6 days later.

Does this article remind anybody else of this episode?

The Jin -- she has a job now? A way to make money? How is she going to pay for that cup of coffee? What could she possibly put on a resume that would get her a job?

(I'm fretting about this, going through my own job search, and wishing I had a Jin who could magically give me all the skills necessary for any job I applied for.

Only, of course, I won't ask for that. Because I'd fuck it up somehow and end with gills instead of skills or some other such nonsense.)

yeah, maybe your first wish should be for a Jin without the attitude and cynicism?

Ok, I've come up with a Jin theory. Mulder gave her some money for a cab and some expenses and sent her to the Gunmen. They made her a fake ID and back story--resume, family, etc.--and now she can find a job. Which probably wouldn't have anything to do with turnips or stout mules, but Jin was pretty smart so she could learn new skills quickly. Voila!

Finally got my Season 7 DVDs. And was surprised to find myself tearing up at the end of the "Truth About Season 7" documentary.

That's not necessarily surprising. Were they tears of pain? Frustration? Rage? The sickening realization that you spent 7 years trying to make sense out of a mytharc that never made sense in the first place?

Well, I guess then that the reason the tears were surprising was that darn it all, I miss the show. I miss the anticipation of seeing what 1013 was going to pull out of their asses this week.

Part of it was that before the documentary, I watched all of the promos in a row. Which I thought were all particularly awful in Season 7. Even the light eps, like Goldberg Variation were announced with ridiculous hyperbole.

"After 144 cases, this is one that they never should have opened!!" DUN DUN DUN!! My Lord, the man was just super lucky. And the only people who died were bad. Bah.

BUT even with that, the promos combined with the feature made me misty and nostalgic. I'm a sap.

A couple of weeks ago I was watching some season 7 including (I Love) Orison, and for the first time I noticed a shameful, embarrassing, inexcusable continuity error. Perhaps it has already been noted in these threads at some point in their history, but I don't recall seeing it.

It, I would say, rivals Scully's mysterious, dematerialising tattoo.

A scan reveals a cerebral edema in the Reverend's brain (is that some kind of double negative? Can you have a cerebral edema anywhere else?) and behave - quite literally - as though Demons never happened.



It's quite shocking, isn't it? And they can't use the excuse that Demons is one of the eps that never happened, 'cos it's actually quite a pivotal episode, being the first time that M questions the identity of his true biological father. And for other reasons (WetHair!Mulder, WrappedInBlanket!Mulder, Shivering!Mulder, SeriousCerebralEvent!Mulder) (Did I just blow my academic credibility?)

i think some of the writers were limited by inadequate blood supply.

Don't forget Naked!Mulder. Mmmm Naked!Mulder.

so - the academic credibility not one of the major currencies around here, smrou?

i hadn't forgotten, i just didn't want to make any of the Duchov-haters throw up.

One other continuity error that I noticed in Orison, (which may be explained by my less-than-expert knowledge of the Corrections Departments of Minnesota and Illinois workings), but Donnie Pfaster was arrested and convicted in Minnesota, yet he's being kept in the Illinois prison system? Does not compute.

Unless Minnesota ships all of it's prisoners to Illinois. In which case, kudo's on sticking to reality, 1013! Oh wait. It just occured to me that this was a federal case as the FBI were the arresting athorities, in which case Donnie was probably held in a federal prison, in which case my entire problem is moot.

So never mind.

Yeah, um, well, I got a little distracted by mental images of Shivering!Mulder and WrappedInBlanket!Mulder. That automatically pushes anything remotely academic out of my mind.

But I think you're right about 1013 dropping the ball on the whole trepanation thing. That shouldn't have been new to Mulder.

A pet subject of mine.

I swear one day I'll do it.

What? Are you all staring at?

i think that it should be totally your choice and would clearly support any decision of yours as a friend, but i also think you should write and have witnessed a living will before you do. said with love, Rube. said with love

If I do it I'll be Super!Rube.

Hehehe! Imagine what we could de with a Super!Rube.

"Hey, CC, guess what?"

hehehehehehe

Scientists are reporting that the sixth extinction has started. Haven't we heard this before?
The difference is that it’s happening in Britain and not on the Ivory Coast, and no mention of Scully anywhere.

But, does anybody remember what they actually concluded with in ‘Sixth Extinction II’? Did the sixth extinction start or not? Or was it a false alarm brought about by the effects of the space ship?

I always took it that the sixth extinction would start with the alien invasion/colonization - and the imagery of Mulder building the sand spaceship with the boy suggests to me that it's coming and Mulder (and this boy?) would play an important part in it. of course, they are building the spaceship, further suggesting that Mulder is supposed to help the aliens, not fight them...

kill one, fight one, help one? it depends which aliens you're talking about.

At the time, I thought the boy was young Mulder, but now I like to pretend he's William. Do we as a forum have a consensus on this?

babe. do we, as a forum, have a consensus on anything?

well, based on postings i say the only thing that unanimous around these here parts is that bmills is a genius!

(for what it's worth, i think it is William...)

That, and season 9 didn't happen. Right? We can all agree that Jump the Shark does not exist, at least.

I like to think the boy is William, but I doubt 1013 had planned that far ahead. So at the time it was probably intended to be kid Mulder.

there are a lot of clues in the SIXTH EXTINCTION about William, if you want to see them - specifically the metal spinning into the line in the Bible about being fruitful and multiplying and Scully being "healed" by the spaceship (my pet theory) - I do think 1013 wanted to plant the seeds (pardon the pun) of a possible Scully/Mulder child in this episode, but only in retrospect. I also like the detail of "strangers" teaching the little boy in SIXTH EXTINCTION to walk, much like Ma & Pa Kent are now raising William (before he's returned to M&S?)...

While I must say I enjoyed Season 9 for what it was, JUMP THE SHARK did seem entirely pointless...

I never warmed up to The Sixth Extinction. Too heavy with symbolism for me, I think. And... oh, I don't know. It just didn't feel right. I could never believe it mattered somehow.

I prefer a good MOTW to a mytharcish ep that I can't get involved in.

Which is just another reason I'm a leading member of the Stand Alone Club.

I hated The Sixth Extinction. Duchov in old people makeup is an automatic disqualifier in my little cache of Episodes That I Don't Hate.

Pssst, Slippin' Mickeys? BOO!

Seriously, I like parts of the episode, but, not unlike Kanel said, a bit too much Christ-symbolism for me what with the crucifix surgery table, "he's my son", and the crown of thorns, I mean bandages; Mulder is like Christ - I get it...I get it...

The Passion of the Mulder.

A perfect name for the seconed XF movie!

That trilogy of episodes are among my least favorites until Scully shows up in Mulder's dream/hospital room and starts berating him. And then Diana dies and all is well. Yay! So really, it's 170 minutes (minus commercials) of crap, except for Scully in Africa, and 10 minutes of decency, except for old man Duchovny. Though it's not the makeup that bugs me as much as the screaming. I actually like a lot of his acting choices, but the man does not do intense anguish well.

As for consenuses, how about the general brilliance of Darin Morgan and Vince Gilligan?

i always took the wee boy to be EITHER some sort of wish-fulfillment of Mulder's relating to his conflicted feelings for his own father and his father's work, OR an amalgam of the generations to come who will prefer to resist rather than serve.

i like The Sixth Extinction. i love all the literary/classical/cineaste references; i love Scully doing her nut at Old Man Mulder ("desserter!" brilliant); i love that Deep Throat isn't dead; i love all the bittersweet tinges of the life Mulder did not choose, the Mr Average desires that he has repressed; i love that Diana is represented as being in league with the devil; i love coy "morning after" Mulder; and i love all the Ivory Coast signs and omens.

Word.


I think you found the one thing, or one of the few things, we can all agree on.

*sitting back, waiting for the inevitable "I disagree" post*

I was under the impression that the 6th extinction refered to all the species that people are wiping out, which is on a scale with the meteorite that wiped out the dinosaurs and stuff. If so, then #6 has been going on for several thousand years, and includes mammoths, ground sloths, dodos, passenger pigeons, etc.

The last passenger pigeon was killed in my hometown. Go Petoskey, Michigan!

Little trivia for ya.

Slip right now Mr. Ruby just drew me a lovely picture of the famed Petoskey stone.

Heh. Life she is good.

Here's a good one.

Good ole Michiganders.

I was just watching X-Cops the other night, and you know, aside from the slight overacting from some of the guest stars, that was a great episode. And admittedly, it would be hard to act completely naturally in a video setting like that when it's all scripted.

I thought Steve and Eddie were the bestest. I wanted them to have a spin-off.

Pretty rock!

More info on the real Sixth Extinction:

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=3646

The best part?

Fess up now.

ejluther, does that wasp have stingers instead of fingers?

If not, I need to invest in a company that makes headwear for White Anglo Saxon Protestants STAT! I could make a fortune!

Here's the thing...

I've been watching my Hong Kong dubbed X-Files DVDs for the last couple of days (well not straight or anything,but I've seen a few episodes in the last few days and I'm sort of on X-Files overdrive)...so I wanted to find a place to sort of, I don't know, calm that high down, by say, discussing different aspects of the show.

And I am here, mostly because I've always loved Jessica's old recaps, and well, there are few other XF places that I know of where there is interesting conversation going.

Anyway, my first post is in this topic, because, having just recently seen Hollywood A.D., I had a question...it's not really so much of a question as well, anyway, I'll just go ahead and ask it, ...

In the "movie" when Tea and Gary are stuck in the coffin, the lines goes "No ifs, ands, or bees".....Here's the thing....who told Mr. Screenwriter about the bee in the hallway? Any thoughts?

I promise...next time I post, it'll be the normal, respond to already established topics thing...but I really wanted to get people's take on this one...

It had to have been Skinner - he would have gotten Scully's report about the incident and passed it on to his friend, Federman.

Either that, or Federman had access to the reports themselves. I can't see Skinner normally giving anyone permission to do anything of the sort, but hey, he was made assistant producer (or whatever), and the good Skinman seemed to be flying very high on that...

See, I wondered if it was Skinner, but I also wondered how he found out? Do you think in her report Scully actually said that they were about to kiss and then a bee stung her? I think, with Scully's preference for "privacy" (I know there's a better word to use, but it's too early for me) She would have skipped over that little detail and just said the bee stung her. That's why I was contemplating the question.

Could have been either of the three, really. But I see it being Skinner too...it's just a matter of how it was that he found out.

I like to think that Mulder spends most of his time off screen obsessing on the phone with Skinner about his giant crush on Scully.