‘The Calusari’ had some obvious elements from The Exorcist.
And ‘Quagmire’ from Jaws: the scenes of people being eaten/disappearing, the bait being dragged down under water, the attack on the boat, etc.

I have a quick Consortium question. In Redux and Redux II, what is the name of the guy talking to CSM at the racetrack, the one who sets up the hit on CSM? Is that "The Elder," or does he have a different moniker? Gracias in advance.

It is 'the elder' like you said, according to the script:

Is he not sometimes also called the "Fat Man"?

And, in '731' he is called '1ST ELDER'....

Damn, it's been two months since this thread has been posted on. I'm bringing it up to express some Detour love, since it was on earlier today.

Quelle amusing when the ranger tells them that if they get lost, to initiate oral contact, and then there's this brief pause. Followed by her looking at Mulder and saying, "That means holler." That makes my sick little mind giggle.

Also, it's hilarious, if a bit cruel, when Mulder tells tech guy that the mothman goes after the leader on the assumption that he/she is the strongest. Five minutes later, he agrees that the three of them should exit the forest, with tech guy leading the way.

And I also adore the expression on Scully's face when she's eating the berries. Such a fun episode.

my word, but i never got the oral contact joke before! not only am i a bad phile, i'm a bad schoolboy-humour afficionado.

i'm appalled and ashamed.

My favorite part of Detour occurs while Mulder and Scully are camped together. Mulder is in shock, and Scully tries to pull him onto her lap to warm him, but Mulder resists and yelps in this little voice, "I dont want to wrestle." I watch the entire episode just for that line.

Dude, me too. I can't believe I missed that! And I've seen that episode many many times, too.

And Crow T. Robot, that's my favorite part too. So cute.

"I fell down a HOOOOOOLE!"

Eee eee eeeee. I never get tired of that, ever, ever. Or the berries. Or Mulder demanding the chorus.

Oh, I love Detour. Sometimes I wish every episode were Detour.

That line almost got my non-X-phile sister to keep watching the show. Almost.

And, of course, that scene was the inspiration for my tattoo so I am all over the Detour love.

I like Mulder's expression when Scully finally starts singing.

Yes, I think I can safely say that Detour is a big fave.

Neat. Can you share what the tattoo is?

"Detour" is chock full of great lines. In addition to the wrestle line, I love the exchange in the hotel room when Scully brings the cheese and wine and he responds with, "Try any of that Tailhook crap on me, Scully, and I'll kick your ass." And then the line about it raining sleeping bags. Hee!

I was pleased when GA used Colleen Flynn again in "all things" -- I've liked her going back to China Beach.

Easily one of the best lines of the entire series.

It's been well documented in the Meet Market. It's "Joy to the World" written around the outside of my left ankle.

That is very neat. Thanks for repeating it again for the peanut gallery. That thread moves a little too fast for me to keep up so I don't get by there as often. Cheers.

"i'll be back soon and we can build a tower of furniture, ok?"

i'd never heard it called that before. hee.

eta: wasn't that actress in Field Trip, too?

The actress in "Field Trip" was Robin Lively, who worked quite a bit in the late 80s through mid 90s. Last year she was cast in the JAG spinoff, NCIS, but was replaced after the pilot, so I'm not sure what happened/is happening to her career. She and Colleen Flynn definitely do look alike, though.

Robin Lively also known as Teen Witch

Best.Movie.Eva.*

(about a teenager who becomes a witch and wins the cute guy and has a friend who does a fantabulous white girl rap)

Man, I'm aghast to see my beloved "chinga" so hated. That doll scared the hell out of me the first time I saw the ep - housesitting alone in the country, I was. Just thinking about that chick's hair in the ice cream machine is making me cringe. Also besides the great M/S moments, I really enjoyed her interaction with the chief of police - he had no secret agenda, wasn't incompetent or threatened by Scully, just an earnest, diligent New England cop.

kat may, at least you're not the only one who doesn't hate Chinga. I wouldn't call it a favourite of mine, but I do like it.

Much because of Scully. I always like to see our girl "get away" for a bit, even though she never really "gets away" from anything.

I love CHINGA for two reasons:

1) In my world, that's the same doll as in CLYDE BRUCKMAN'S FINAL REPOSE. Check it out some time and you may agree. Yes, I am a continuity whore and will even make it up if I have to...

and

2) "Scully?" "Yes?" (pause) "Marry me." - the. best. (that is CHINGA, yes? I can't access the transcript site at http://www.insidethex.co.uk/ . And I'm scared.)

ETA: the site is back up. whew.

Game, set and match to ej. Totally one of the best lines, and another reason to like Chinga.

I'm not sure about the doll, though, but hey, if it works for you, run with it, I say.

Here's some handy reference shots:
Clyde Bruckman:
http://www.bluishorange.com/xfiles/clyde5.jpg
Chinga:
http://www.xfroadrunners.com/epimages/seas...a/chinga004.jpg

Looks like the same doll to me. Of course, I do know ALL dolls look alike on some level...

But that would explain the murders in Clyde Bruckman - the doll made him do it! Plus there was that shot of the melted doll head in CBFR, that doll was not right!

I was not at all in the correct frame of mind to like "Chinga" when it first aired but on subsequent viewings I didn't hate it. I also used to get the mother confused with the actress who played Samantha, which didn't help.

I always saw that "Marry me" exchange as a good counterpart to his "What are you wearing?" comment in "WotC" when he kept calling her for advice.

Absolutely. Mulder gives great phone. Wasn't there a scene with him and phone-sex? Some message from an "operator" wondering about their usual call? Or am I dreaming that up for my own cheap and tawdry pleasure?

(Edited because I HATE being wrong.)

There are some things I like about Chinga and some things I hate. The character stuff is cute, but then there are things like Scully & the sheriff trying to break down the door to get to the threatened mom, when there's a windhow they could smash right next to them. Then when the mom is smacking herself in the head with the hammer, they stand there and argue with the kid instead of taking the damn hammer away. The script has some real problems.

So true. I love his and Scully's phone conversations. That's often where we get little flirty lines.


That was in Small Potatoes when Eddie Van Blundht was posing as Mulder.

I like Chinga okay because I think it's enjoyable and scary. But I always felt that Scully didn't really seem like herself in it. And maybe that was the whole point, but it kind of buggged me.

smrou beat me to it.

OK, I looked at the dolls, and smack my pony, but they look alike. I'd need to see them move and talk to see just how alike they are, but... wait. There's something wrong with that concept.

The plot of Chinga does nothing for me (maybe because the idea of talking dolls freaks me out, and has since that Talking Tina Twilight Zone episode), but the M/S phone interaction is priceless. Mulder looks downright smitten when Scully details her knowledge of witchcraft. Gotta also love the pencils in the ceiling. Poor bored Mulder. Anyway, it's a show I prefer to tape and then fast-forward through all the scenes of the mom and daughter and freaky doll. Then it's nothing but 10 minutes o' phone fun.

Isn't that rather the point?

I know what you mean, though. There are some things that just freak me out too much to watch. Can't think of an example right now, though. But I used to watch XF episodes every week with my roommates in college (it was one of our room bonding activities), and they refused to watch episodes that involved the killing of babies (Home, Terms of Endearment) because it freaked them out too much.


Oh yeah, I loved that!

Yup, definitely in Small Potatoes when Eddie picks up a answering machine message left on Mulder's home phone for "Marty." I also remember something in The Unnatural about an overdue phone sex bill -- ? Or was that videos? Hmmm ...

Anyway, given the life of its own that Mulder's porn fixation took on in fanfic, I think there's actually relatively few real references to it in the show ... but it's there. :)

So I'm using my handy-dandy Time Warner Cable onscreen guide and see the X-Files is coming on the Sci-Fi Channel, so I check out which episode it is - BUNGHONEY! I know that was the original title and was changed to CHINGA, but there it was, in black and white on my television screen. Is that an in-joke by someone or did the episode have two official titles or something? And what does "BUNGHONEY" mean anyway?

Hmmm...I used to know but I have forgotten. Was "Bunghoney" the name of the town?
[ot]ejluther- I do the same thing every morning before I leave for work. I check Sci-Fi at 4:00 p.m. and 2:00 a.m. as well as TNT at 1:00 a.m. and 2:00 a.m. (or whatever random time it appears on the schedule).[/ot]

No, they changed the name of the episode because "Chinga" means something dirty in another language. (Totally don't remember which one.) "Bunghoney" is not all that much better, though. Um, I don't really care to be the one to define it, though. Not in print and in public, anyway. Use your imagination.

from the x-files in-jokes page:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/injoke/xfjokes5.html

Now, I get it! Thanks, Slippin' Mickeys! CHINGA is the "bad" word! So BUNGHONEY is now the "official" title, even though the DVDs and whatnot still use "CHINGA"...

... yup, the X-Files official guide, vol. 4, refers to it as "an extremely vulgar Spanish colloqialism." Vague, but I guess it tells ya all you need to know. The guide also insists King had no idea when he chose the name.

I'm so naming a band that.

I can see it in lights as you present your first album: "Vulgar Spanish Colloqialism: The Truth is in my Pants"

Topic? I like season five, but Chinga was a little weird and didn't quite feel like a normal episode. Maybe it was the lack of Mulder...

Okay. Bad Blood was on SciFi this afternoon, and it pretty much made my day. My brother doesn't even like XF, but he's seen it so many times with me that he's even beginning to memorize the lines.

"I do it all for you, Mulder..."

I just saw something very disturbing on the Web about parallels between the pilot episode of The Lone Gunmen and 9/11. The episode aired almost six months to the day of the attacks. Does anyone recall any mention of it at the time? I can't believe this is the first I'm hearing of it.


The entire episode is available for download here.

Yes, it was all over the XF fandom (since we seem to be the only ones who actually watched the spinoff) and a few media outlets may have picked it up, but I think Microsoft having a flight demo program of such a crash was the bigger sound byte.

I felt immediately guilty that the show was one of my first thoughts on 9/11.

Yes, the similarities are quite uncanny. Also, it's easily the best episode TLG in my eyes. So it's cool to watch regardless of what came later.

TLG ain't the topic here, though. It can have it's own little topic elsewhere, if it doesn't already.

Thanks.

Can I just say how much I love the ending to Post-Modern Prometheus? I love the dancing deformed guy (and Mulder giggling while watching him get down), the entire Cher-stand-in montage, the music, and the fantastic M/S dancing scene?

I'm not a huge 'shipper, but that gets me every time.

The ending montage made me love that damn song so much... On the commentary CC says that Cher had originally wanted to do the cameo (IIRC, she was a fan of the show) but the scheduling didn't work out. I think he also said that they'd written the mysteriously-impregnated-mother role for Roseanne; scheduling again.

Really?! Oh man, that would've been awesome! I love Roseanne

That would have been awesome!

Yeah, it was written expressly for her (CC kinda knew Cher through her sister, who's a huge X-Files fan) ... but I kinda like how they used a stand-in, I think using the real Cher in that final sequence would have totally distracted from the power of that sequence.

I'm not really a big fan of this episode as a whole (sacrilege!, I know) -- a little too over the top, I guess. But Aatrek, I'm with you 100% -- that final sequence kicks ass (and the little Mulder smile while they're dancing just takes my breath away) [/sidetrip into shipper fangirliness].

For me, the most interesting factoid about the ep is that (forgive me if y'all already know this) the guy under all that Mutato makeup is Chris Owens -- Jeffrey Spender (and the young CSM).