Classic cartoon hoyay: Hercules and Newt ('63) and though he tried his best to be butch, Rocket Robin Hood ('67) and every guy on the show. Poor Maid Marion.

Has there ever been a Hercules on TV without HoYay?

Getting back to the cartoon Tick for a moment: there was an ep where Arthur learns the origin of his moth-suit. It was built by some crazy scientist. But that's not important. What IS important is that the scientist has a beautiful daughter: Carmelita. She has a moth-suit, too. She & Arthur hit it off & go on a date. Tick stays home in a jealous snit. He begins to make himself a new friend out of wood (the whole time mocking Arthur & Camelita "Oooh, Arthur! Oooh, Carmelita").

Well, they all end up in the belly of a whale. But, that's not important. At the end of the ep Tick has his usual wrap-up: "You know Arthur- I learned something... you are a man and I am a WOMAN"!

Swear to God.

Little Wooden Boy! I have a magnet of him and the Tick. Love when he gets a mention.

I agree with those who say Tick is asexual in his way, but I think his demeanor would not change even if he and Arthur were making the sweet, sweet love. He'd still be in the D'oh-Yay zone.

Little Wooden Boy gave his life so the Tick, Arthur & Carmelita's crazy dad could escape from that whale. (sniff) God bless you, Little Wooden Boy (sniff).

TOPIC: Hmm. Nope.

Am I the only one who thought this?

Jerry. Newman. The love/hate that dare not speak its name.

All I have to say is King of the Hill people, King of the Hill. Bill is so after Hank.

Don't see it. Bill's all about Peggy, IMO.

A lot of people have mentioned Dr. Quest and Race Bannon from Johnny Quest, but no one has mentioned UST between Johnny and Hadji (sp?). I mean, come on, they were two pubesent, young boys curious about the changes going on in their bodies and there were no girls around. You do the math.

Also, while not yet classic, I think there's a little something between O'Neal and Tel'c on Stargate SG-1.

"Yes Tel'c come FISHING With me down at the lake. We'll catch big ones!"

That is so suss.

I agree Aaron, there is definately something there, yet Tel'c is oblivious.

I can't believe nobody's mentioned Dan and Casey on Sports Night.

Also, Garibaldi and Sinclair on Babylon 5. A lot of people wanted to slash Garibaldi with Sheridan or Franklin, but I never bought it. He was really devoted to Sinclair.

Word on The Invisible Man. *sigh*

Oh yeah, one more. I personally don't see most of the M/M HoYay on Buffy, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that Giles and Ethan had a fling back in their demon-raising days.

What about KITT and Michael on Knight Rider? I remember seeing the HoYay when I was 12 and being totally confused by it. And I found that there is actual slashy fanfiction written about them which really squicked me out because it's about a man and a car. That's so wrong.

Just finished reading the thread ... and damn, all my childhood memories have been tainted. Tainted, I tell you! ... Good lord, it's like an addiction - once you're tuned in and start searching for HoYay it's like you can't stop. :P Hee. I love it.

X-Men: There's just so much UST between Cyclops and Wolverine - the silly boys are just subliminating their mutual lust with that peeing contest over *gag* Jean Grey. Plus Xavier and Magneto? Behave totally like bitchy ex-es.

ST Voyager: Paris and Kim. *sigh* My Star Trek OTP (although I also get a kick out of Picard-stalker Q combined with Jealous!Riker). I'm convinced that the Delaney sisters were beards, and when Harry tried to get back to Voyager because Tom's life was messed up in the alternate reality? Aw. The Chute episode just cemented the love.

Sesame Street: Oh man, this cracked me up when I first encountered it, but now I'm firmly convinced that they were in love. Bert and Ernie kinda remind me of Joey and Chandler from Friends - roomates who live together, with one smart and prone to freak out while the other one's dumb and cheerful.

Batman TAS: Besides the ever so obvious HoYay between Batman and Robin, I've also thought that the Joker is just way too interested in his arch nemesis. And Harvey Dent (Two-Face) struck me as having had a casual fling with Bruce Wayne. Hee. Of course, there's always that classic line from Batman Beyond where Ra Ghul possessed Talia's body, Terry said "Lady, you're creeping me out" and Bruce goes "You? She kissed me." Hee. Everybody's after Brucie. Even Supes can't keep his hands off Batman in JLU. I've never been into femme slash all that much, but Harley Quinn should *so* dump the Joker and just shack up with Poison Ivy. Oh wait ... I think she did. Didn't she?

Blackadder: Blackie is obviously not adverse to manlove - after all, he fell for "Bob". All that jealousy towards FlashHart reminded me of "ex-boyfriend" resentment. Although Captain Darling in the last season is totally Blackie's true love. Heh.

Horatio Hornblower: Horatio and Archie were *soooo* doing it after "The Duchess" episode. Aw. Prison love. Bush was clearly looking into a threesome, and Pellew is so biased towards Horatio it's not even funny. The man totally sacrificed Archie without a thought so that he could have Horry for himself. :P

Birds of Prey: Is it just me or did Helen and Barbara have the hots for each other?

Witchblade: Ian Nottingham is *so* Kenneth Iron's bitch.

Did anyone hear that Captain Kangaroo passed away this week? :(

Yes she did, for 1 episode. It was a great episode and they made an awsome team. I get all teared up when Ivy is going through her photo album of thier times together.

I think Dan on "Night Court" was totally Bull's bitch and, mired as he was in the depths of the law-community closet, was therefore heavily overcompensating with all the het-manwhoring.

What? All Bull ever had to do was stand over him menacingly. Dude was whipped.

Although, I know Mr. Roger's Neighborhood was a kid's show, I wish in all the years it was on that the butch puppet (Lady Elaine Fairchilde?) would have found a "friend". She did give the little quiet cat puppet (Henerietta Pussycat ?) a hard time now and again. Maybe she was training her for a dominant/submissive thing.

Too true. Ian always looked like he was eager to get whipped by Kenneth Iron. I don't care if Iron was supposed to be Ian's "Father", they had chemistry. Damn Ian was hot. Shame the show was canceled.


That's ten shades of wrong. How in the hell was Michael supposed to satisfy KITT? Gas tank? Tail pipe?
I'm so going to hell.

Sort of OT, but I was just watching "Death's Other Dominion" on Space:1999. I don't know if they needed to fill the hour or what, but they repeated at least 20 times that the people on the planet were survivors of the "Uranus probe". And each time I giggled.

Last night I saw an episode of Justice League that left me in awe of the Hoyay. In it Wonder Woman was protecting a princess from some imaginary european country before her wedding. They go out clubbing and hang out at the top of the Eiffel Tower. Diana constantly gets in the princess' personal space and even busts up the wedding. The cherry on top is when the princess wonders why her friend is acting so strangely the husband says that Diana has become too fond of her and is jealous! Please tell me I'm not the only one to have seen this. It was my first time watching J.L and I just could not turn it off. I'm not familiar with the characters so I can't be sure I wasn't reading too much into it.

Francie Nolan I was just about to post that.

Francie Nolan and HexLover I totally saw that too. You weren't reading to much into it. I was all, damn major HoYay. If you want to talk about it more, there is a Justice League thread here. I meant to go there after I saw the ep but it slipped my mind.

Not technically classic, unless you consider AtS Season 2 classic, but the Crown Prince of HoYay, Lindsey McDonald, is back on Angel. Mmm, Lindsey.

OMG, I'm LMAO here. Hee! Maybe it was the other way around. KITT had all those...special attachments.

One ticket to Hell please.

You know, I remember an episode where somebody removed KITT's CPU and Michael was able to find it because he could sense KITT's soul. He has a soooooul.

KITT's personality was transferred into an android body for the story I read. Yes, I admit it. I read it. I couldn't help myself.

Thanks for confirming my vague memory. I just watched "Holiday Knights" and Harley/Ivy seemed to be living together in the same apartment, but my confuzzled mind couldn't remember when/if they were actually shacking up.



*lol* I think I enjoyed the HoYay! even more with that vaguely incestuous master-servant vibe, actually. :P



Hee. I remember that episode! Both Diana and Audrey? were All.Over.Each.Other.

Back in the past Michael Landon was mentioned re "Bonanza" but what about "Highway to Heaven" - they didn't even bother to hide it! Two guys doing everything together, no women, and finally when "Mr Edwards" from LHOTP got a girlfriend, she was killed off in the same episode! Definite contender.

Also, for the Brits, Blake and Avon were so getting it on in Blake's 7!

Plus there's always the HoYay with Dawson and his creek.

As for Knightrider, what about Devon Miles. You know he wanted in on the fun.

ETA I almost forgot Airwolf. There was a definite threesome between JM Vincent, Ernest Borgnine and the guy in the white suit.

Yeah, KITT was totally gay in that slightly British way.



Wow, that's putting way too much thought into it. I like to imagine the nude Michael rubbing around on the leather seats alot.

BWAH!! ...and I'm officially scarred for life.

ETA: Err...emdroberts, where could one find that story about KITT as an android? I'd be curious to read it for...ummm...research purposes. Yeah, that's it. Research. *cough*

There are three on www.fanfiction.net. They are older stories so check the last or next to last page for them.

Topic: Whenever He-Man would guest star on She-Ra, there was definite HoYay between Adam and Bo.

Recently I started getting into Mash. I want to see the famous one where Blake gets shot down, I have read all about it.
Anyways, I see some ho hay between Hawkeye and BJ. Sure its just a close friendship, but the way they act sometimes. The moving out and fighting and BJ saying he misses wife was just covers for sexual tension. And as beautiful and awesome as finale was, the whole stuff "I wouldn't have made it through war without you" and "You were worth war" or whatever screams hoyay.
Edited to change Hohay to hoyay because thats right.

If you read the MASH stories on fanfiction.net there are a lot of slashy stories. Most of them seem to involve Trapper. I never read them because I only read the Frank or Charles stories and for some reason no one saw much HoYay with them.

Thanks, I will have to check that out.

For all of you Starsky and Hutch fans, this article from the New York Times mentions the HoYay between the two. You have to sign up to view it, but it is well worth it, especially for this little gem:



Makes me want to pick up the first season on DVD.

Anyone remember Legend? The Nicodemus/Bartok relationship was very, very sweet. I blame John De Lancie, who seems to flirt with everything else on screen, including furniture.

Trapper does seem to be the object of much MASH HoYay, but I'm with you, Halfpint Ingals. I prefer the relationship between Hawkeye and BJ. It seemed less one-note.

Oh, and the HoYay.

[sniff] I love this thread....

Oh, LydiaB, you are so SINGING MY TUNE. Dan and Casey are the Forever Love. Really. They are. They've been together for thirteen YEARS, through divorce, addiction, the stupid Dating Plan, and Casey being offered Conan's job and turning it down so he doesn't have to leave Dan. If that's not love, what is?

As far as Giles and Ethan, I thought that was pretty much canon -- Wasn't the whole thing they were doing with Eyghon an orgy-type thing, anyway? Or am I really that far gone?

Oooh, Stargate? Where do I start?

While Dr. Jackson and O'Neill bicker like an old married couple and Teal'c looks like he moonlights as a go-go dancer at the local gay club, Major Davis shakes his booty every time he is recalled from Pentagon to bat his lashes at O'Neill. Meanwhile, Major Carter and Dr. Frasier (snif) are raising a daughter together while getting drunk on team outing margaritas and undoubtedly having quickies in bar restrooms and "physicals" at the infirmary. And that machine in Carter's lab, the one that goes shudder-ping-surr, well...its true purpose has never been revealed, but it does come with phallic attachments. Hmm...

Also? I heart this thread.

Honestly? Do it. Do it now. I got my Season 1 DVDs last week, and those episodes make Smallville look like Heterosexualtown. The pilot episode alone involves two separate instances of Starsky and Hutch getting undressed together, countless couple-like references, Hutch making Starsky pay his gym membership fee, Starsky hanging out in the showers with Hutch after making use of said gym (and proceeding to have a conversation in which the gym owner effectively outs them), Starsky uttering the line, "Mom, I met a doctor today and I think he loves me!" and much much more.

Oh yeah. And the premise of the episode is that when two teenagers (a blonde and a brunette) are murdered while making out in a red Torino on lookout point, everyone concludes that the hitmen were after Starsky and Hutch. Heh.

Run, don't walk, to Amazon and order these. And click through the TWOP button on the way :)

I'm definitely on the Starsky and Hutch love train. I think this is the show that turned me onto slash, even though I didn't have a name for it back then.

I came across this site about a year ago. Unfortunately, it looks like the owner abandoned it. I would love to have every episode recapped by this person, who seems to have loved the show and appreciated the subtext.

Holy crap HelenaHandbasket. I heard it was slashy, but that is HoYay at it's finest. It has just been bumped to number two on my list of DVDs to get.

And thanks for the site patty1h. I love the pictures.

TV Land is doing a Starsky and Hutch mini-marathon on Thursday night, starting at 8 EST.

(I am sitting here at work giggling crazily at HelenaHandbasket's description of the pilot.)

leychilde, I don't think it was actually stated that the Eyghon-raising was an orgy. But it's not a difficult conclusion to jump to. (Or as Buffy might say, "I didn't jump to conclusions. I took a tiny step, and there conclusions were.")

The last Ethan episode also featured the two of them reminiscing like an estranged couple. "Whatever happened to us?" Ethan asks, and Giles says something to the effect of "I became a Watcher and you started worshipping Chaos." Heh.

Giles and Ethan became bodily possessed by Eyghon to get high. Giles and Ethan had matching tattoos. Ethan had a cute little nickname for Giles ("Ripper"). The first time Ethan showed up to cause trouble (when he cast a spell on Halloween to cause costumed people to take on the characteristics of what they're dressed as) and ran off, he left a note for Giles promising he'd return. In "Band Candy," Ethan cast a spell that caused Giles to turn back into his teenaged, Ripper self (like the way things use to be in the old days?).

Ethan made a big deal about how Buffy wouldn't kill him because he's human, but I actually think Buffy didn't kill him because she wouldn't kill her father figure's ex-boyfriend.

The Starsky and Hutch movie is going to deliberately play up the HoYay.

Starsky Loves Hutch.



Riiiight.

Hee. That article is hilarious! The absolute best line in the entire thing being

Hee! Hee, hee, hee! Yes, I am twelve.

Squee! I love that article and I cannot wait for the movie to come to our theatre. I also am on the lookout for the DVDs to rent and I have told my roommate that Thursday is S&H night because of the reruns.

It's almost sad that the one thing I am really excited about this week is a S&H marathon and our dining hall's dinner Friday. Wow.

Was there any Huggy Bear HoYay with Starsky and Hutch?

There's also the fact that the only other people to call Giles "Ripper" (Jenny, Joyce and Olivia) are people who have canonically had sex with him.

I'm just sayin'. 8)

When did Joyce call him Ripper? Was it the band candy ep? My Buffy memories are quickly fading in my old age and I can't bear to watch the reruns a ninth time through on F/X just to miss the three or four episodes I miss everytime again. And I would pay good money to hear her call him that.