Eboogie
Jun 22, 2004 @ 10:32 pm
DAYUM! That was a really intense dark episode. Actually, I'm a little worried this season is going to be too dark. I actually had to take a break in the middle of the episode because it was so intense.
Aatrek, are you sure that was Matt being taken away? Cause I couldn't tell if it was him or his friend. Those previews were insane.
- Wilbur is the stupidest name ever
- The whole scene in the bar with the african-american woman was pretty cool.
- Gina needs to chill the fuck out. Christan's not even the dad and he's paying for stuff and babysitting.
- This whole thing with Sean having the yips is going to have me on the edge during every surgery.
- The scene with Sean and his buttcheeks was classic Nip/Tuck
- The music rocked. I'm not a huge fan of Rufus Wainwright, but that song was perfect.
I thought the episode was really good and intense, but just a bit too dark. The whole thing with the fag hag/gay guy really disturbed the shit out me.
Penthilisea, Welcome to the boards. The
FAQ has a really clear spoiler policy, and basically, everything you spoilered is not considered a spoiler.
KathyV
Jun 22, 2004 @ 10:38 pm
Last season they left us with a cliffhanger about whether Matt was Christian's son but Julia's behavior in tonight's episode would seem to indicate that Sean is the father. She didn't give off any indication in other words that she was hiding something. She seemed relaxed and happy and that would probably not be the case if the test results had proved Christian was the father.
Wilbur and Christian are very cute together. The continuing presence of Gina on the other hand is something that I guess I have to endure because I like the show but boy is it becoming a struggle.
Sophia
Jun 22, 2004 @ 10:39 pm
Can I interview for the nanny position? Can I??? Please??? ;)
I liked it. Will Vanessa Redgrave be on any more episodes? If so, will she have had a face lift in real life? How will they explain that she looks the same?
That closing shot of Christian with the baby made my ovaries ache.
Eboogie
Jun 22, 2004 @ 10:46 pm
Sophia I was thinking the same thing. Are any of these actors having plastic surgery or really getting botox? Of course, they could be just wearing makeup that would make them look worse ahead of time.
Tina Marie
Jun 22, 2004 @ 10:47 pm
They did not show it. thankfully. Sean describing it was enough. Ewww. They did have great chemistry though. But the actual sex part I did not need to see. I really have missed all these characters. Even bitch faced Gina. Wilbur's first word IS gonna be ASSHOLE for sure. haha. Gina sure is trying hard to get Christian into a real relationship. No fucking way did he need to suck out her breastmilk! Grosss but funny. Julia probably had one in a closet. She is sooo desperate it's pathetic. I just know she is gonna hurt Christian. She should be thanking him. Instead she is using emotional blackmail. He already loves Wilbur.Even though he was fighting it. Awww their scenes together were precious. Awwwwwwww. And if she tries to take him away. Christian already knows how to get rid of a body! Ok what happened with Will and Grace?? How many episodes is Vanessa Redgrave gonna be in? She kicks all kinds of ass. I love the mother/daughter conflict between them. Wonder what kind of relationship they have in real life. Their scenes seemed almost tooo real. but it works. I did miss Matt. I know Matt is gonna have a juicy storyline but where the hell was he?? I see Annie was MIA for this episode. except for the party. I swear that kid is gonna end up faceup in the swimming pool and nobbody is gonna notice. hehe. I think this was very good way to start the season. Are they gonna have every episode without commercials? I HATE commercials! This way is much better.
Brandi1978
Jun 22, 2004 @ 10:48 pm
I'm hooked! Who has a spoiler link??
BTW, did it seem a little odd to anyone how happy Sean and Julia were? How much time are we supposed to think has passed?
nil
Jun 22, 2004 @ 10:54 pm
Not a bad show. A little slow though. I kept waiting for it to pick up.
They really put Sean through the meat grinder last year, so I guess now it's Christian's turn.
The show needs to lighten up a little though, or it's gonna become predictable. The second Erica walked into Troy's office, I knew they were gonna sleep together. The second the gay guy walked in to see his disfigured friend, I knew he was gonna get shot. I'm surprised Sean didn't cut somebody's ear off. Where did that gun come from anyway?
isiscloud
Jun 22, 2004 @ 10:58 pm
Yeah, I was kind of wishing there had been a break, it was a bit dark and very intense.
I really liked Grace too and am very sorry to lose her. And I hope there's a proper explanation for her departure. They made such a big issue last year of the need for an in-house psychologist "to screen" that they can't just forget about it now.
They really could have used her tonight with the suicide pact client. She was a good foil for Christian, better than Gina who is just such a hag.
Gina needs to chill the fuck out. Christan's not even the dad and he's paying for stuff and babysitting.
Abso-fucking-lutely! And she's still going to sexaholics anonymous. Christian just wants a family so badly that he'll stick with Gina for it. Too bad. Glad to see he has
some scruples re: the nanny with the pacifier in cough syrup. He could be a good daddy. And alone on his birthday with just Will...let me be the one to comfort thee.
Man, that pickup in the bar with the orthopedic student was harsh. Bad move programming his number in her phone. "I've already got a daddy..."
I love Vanessa Redgrave as Julia's mother. She's a good match for Julia's uptightness. Poor Christian's face when Julia accused him of fantasizing it was her while with VR. He was devastated.
The previews look even more intense, especially with Famke Janssen as the "life coach". Can't wait until next week, though.
NickChick
Jun 22, 2004 @ 11:01 pm
We...hell.
That Christian is still a slut but at least he has his limits. ;)
And "inventory" is what they're calling that these days, Sean?
So saw something coming with the COTW but I didn't see that. I thought she'd amp herself on the morphine a la the ER episode that sent Dr. Ross packing. Honestly, though, I could see her side of it in him having pulled the trigger on her and then decided to move on and leave her behind.
Roma Maffia looked fabulous.
The breast milk thing? So glad I'd finished my supper. And Joely's smug, "Milk?" afterward. Heh.
And Vanessa just kicked all kind of ass.
KBear
Jun 22, 2004 @ 11:01 pm
Welcome back Nip/Tuck, I've missed ya. I guess I won't be having any cookies and milk after this episode. Poor Wilbur, with Gina and Christian as your parental figures, I could see the kid going into the priesthood. I will admit though that the scenes between Christian and Wilbur were cute. Sean with the yips could only mean Sean is ready to go off the deep end. Vanessa Redgrave was great as you would expect her to be. I know she's signed up for 4 episodes, I hope they can get her for some more. Good beginning for the season, I'm really looking forward to the rest of the season.
Kris18923
Jun 22, 2004 @ 11:09 pm
I cannot even explain how much better Joely Richardson looks in this episode. I don't know if it's the long hair, or the bangs or what, but she does not even seem nearly as shrill to me. I never realized the resemblance between she and her (real-life) mother until the facelift flash of Julia lying on the table instead of Erica.
Wilbur is the pig in Charlotte's Web. Not a baby. A pig. Stupid Gina.
That aside, I am appropriately pleased and intrigued by whatever this season has in store. I mean, in all honesty, all I need is Julian McMahon- preferably naked- but actual substance beyond that is great as well.
The show needs to lighten up a little though, or it's gonna become predictable.
I'm not so sure that I see this show ever becoming completely predictable, dark or not. I'm going to give the writers the benefit of the doubt. I'd like to think they still have a few tricks up their sleeves.
"Once you've seen a woman's cum face, you've seen her soul." Wow, Christian.
bratly
Jun 22, 2004 @ 11:10 pm
Matt needs to tell the "Joker" to stop doing his eyebrows. WTF!
jerry
Jun 22, 2004 @ 11:18 pm
I'm not a big fan of Matt myself. I don't know what I could suggest they do though to change his storylines. – Eboogie
There’s nothing wrong with Matt that recasting wouldn’t fix. Just my two cents.
Eh, can't see what all the talk is about, angst and sex. Maybe I have to watch more then one episode, but it doesn't just grab me to want to care yet. –timesAwasting
I don't think this was a good episode for a first-time viewer, but give it another chance. Last year’s premiere was much better, though.
Sylph
Jun 22, 2004 @ 11:22 pm
How I missed this show...let me count the ways.
I loved Sean's birthday party with all the family and friends waiting for Sean to blow out the candles. The looks on their faces were priceless. That was a lot of candles to be blowing out.
Poor Sean. The man has thriving career and now a psychological disorder is going to hinder him from practicing his duties. I wonder if it's his guilt from NUT!G (aka Escobar for the newbies) combined with his own sense of losing his younger self is making him slip up. I really want to see this explored fully this season.
This whole thing with Sean having the yips is going to have me on the edge during every surgery.
Hell, my brother kept on turning away from the screen because he was sure Sean was going to screw up majorly.
The breast milk thing? So glad I'd finished my supper. And Joely's smug, "Milk?" afterward. Heh.
That was one of the nastiest scenes
ever. I can deal with the surgeries but knowing where Christian put his mouth and the afteraffects...ew. I was about to swear off milk entirely.
I cannot even explain how much better Joely Richardson looks in this episode. I don't know if it's the long hair, or the bangs or what, but she does not even seem nearly as shrill to me. I never realized the resemblance between she and her (real-life) mother until the facelift flash of Julia lying on the table instead of Erica.
Julia didn't grate at all this episode. I loved her hair and her interaction with real life mom, Vanessa Redgrave. (The bangs made her look years younger IMO.) I wonder if this woman will stay. Judging from the looks of the previews, Shrewlia™ will make a comeback.
Can I say right now how much I love Vanessa Redgrave? Such a classy lady. I had to keep from choking when I heard that she, Erica, and Christian had a fling. On Julia's wedding night, Christian feeling jealous, couldn't have the bride so he went for the mother instead. Hmph. You can bet that sexual tension will be taken to new heights this year.
Wilbur? They named that cute kid Wilbur? He's going to be scarred for life with the Mr Ed jokes that are sure to follow.
Wilbur is the pig in Charlotte's Web. Not a baby. A pig. Stupid Gina.
Seriously. That baby's first word is going to be asshole.
ciscokidinsf called it.
Liz. I heart you. She did look fabulous.
On psycho patient,"If I can't have you no one will", I sincerely thought she was going to end her life. I could tell that she madly in love with her best friend but I didn't expect her to shoot him because he wanted to be happy away from
her. I could see it as payback for him shooting her in the face but I never expected the end result. If Grace Santiago was there, she would have caught it. I'm just saying.
Christian. My love. My man. How dare that girl at the bar spurn him? I'd drink his sweat. (Shh...don't tell my
TE people about that.) Smug bastard. He's screws the help while interviewing her. Love it.
I missed seeing his glorious ass. Welcome back Nip/Tuck.
Jer2002
Jun 22, 2004 @ 11:27 pm
Rufus Wainwright's "Vibrate" and "So Nice" by Bebel Gilberto in the same episode? For that alone it gets an A.
For real! The music on this show kicks so much ass! Speaking of ass, all this time I've been waiting to see Sean's naked ass and was a little dissapointed. He needs an ass lift or something.
Did anyone else flashback to the SATC threesome scene with Samantha, Richard and the 21 year old... when the nanny called Christian "daddy"?
I did. Too bad he didn't kick her to the curb right there. Baby-Tinis? WTF?
Last but not least, Shut Up Gina!
Brandi1978
Jun 22, 2004 @ 11:29 pm
I have a question: in the previews, I could have sworn that there was a scene with Christian and Julia in bed togther, but it went by quickly and it could have been another blond. Anyone notice this?
Sylph
Jun 22, 2004 @ 11:36 pm
I have a question: in the previews, I could have sworn that there was a scene with Christian and Julia in bed togther, but it went by quickly and it could have been another blond. Anyone notice this?
It went by too quickly for me to pick up on who it was. Maybe when they repeat it this weekend, we'll be able to get a good look. For all you know it could be Kimber.
*shudder*
Thanks for the headsup on the song at the end. I was wondering who was the artist and title. I never listened to Rufus Wainwright but I heard alot about him.
Did anyone else besides me do a "Squee!" when Famke Janssen was shown in the clips? She gets close to mother and son McNamara. Oh man.
Baby-Tinis? WTF?
Nanny needed to get her ass kicked for the suggestion.
Last but not least, Shut Up Gina!
If only. Is she going to challenge Christian for parental rights? We need to change Shut Up Gina to Back the Fuck Off Bitch.
Add It Up
Jun 23, 2004 @ 12:18 am
Little thing I noticed; That book Christian was reading to baby Will at the end is about a kid who's mom would come into his room every night and sing a lullaby, even when the kid grows old and moves out of the house. Possilbe a subtle refrence to the episode's (and series) theme on ageing.
ciscokidinsf
Jun 23, 2004 @ 12:38 am
Hate Gina, Hate Baby asshole!!! Go the fuck away!!!
On the butt-shot of Sean, I heard a loud 'thunk' I just assumed it was Sylph just passed out of Happiness...welcome back N/T :)
I was a bit surprised when Sean finally injected himself.
On the nanny scene... I saw some nipple!!! ,once again, welcome back N/T!!!
Nicole was ... cold... and she saw the botox... Ouch... but still, Christian can save the best of lines.
What is Gina's problem??? Christian is doing more than he should.
Same as 'Sex and The City', men get turnoff if you called them 'daddy' after a certain date.
Great acting from Julia's mom!!!
dr gailey
Jun 23, 2004 @ 12:42 am
I don't know how much time has passed but I know that in the season 1 finale that 4 months had passed from when they did the surgery on Escobar.
I wanted them to show what happened between fag hag and her gay friend. Maybe at the last second she turned the gun on herself. It had to hurt that her best friend decided to live his life without her.
I never liked milk much to begin with. Tonight's show made it easier to abstain from it.
Gina is still a mean bitch. Wilbur is so cute and I hate his name. Christian did look lovable with him reading to him at the end. So sad that he only had a baby to share his birthday with.
Vanessa as Erica rocked. I would love to see her more often. She made Julia seem likable for an episode. Joely does look better with bangs.
The music editor kicks ass. The music is always great for each episode. I loved Bolero playing in the background while Christian tempted Sean with the Botox.
jerry
Jun 23, 2004 @ 12:59 am
I have a question: in the previews, I could have sworn that there was a scene with Christian and Julia in bed togther, but it went by quickly and it could have been another blond. Anyone notice this? - Brandi1978
I noticed and I just
had to know if it was Christian. I would be ashamed to tell you what I went through to get the tape paused at the exact right moment, since my stupid VCR doesn't have slow advance. ANYWAY, it's not Christian. It sure looked like him in real time, though.
*Shrug* It appears to be Sean.
ciscokidinsf
Jun 23, 2004 @ 1:29 am
Favorite Quote: 'They will be no suckage of any kind' Hee! Your tell'er cowboy!
sassmcgregor
Jun 23, 2004 @ 1:45 am
Little Sister looked a heck of a lot more like Matt then I remembered last season.
I was thinking the exact same thing when they showed the sister! Matt has such an odd look about him, he has bigger lips than Angelina Jolie.
I just rewinded the previews and played some of it on slow and it looks like it IS Christian and Julia in bed but it also has that sort of dream scene quality about it.
Also the person getting drug away in the orange jumpsuit didn't look like Matt to me, it looked like his friend.
MaryWebGirl
Jun 23, 2004 @ 4:47 am
I physically recoiled when I first saw Matt. Shouldn't this boy be filling out and looking more normal as time goes on? Sean should be worrying about what people will think of his skills when they see his son instead of himself.
jerry
Jun 23, 2004 @ 5:50 am
ANYWAY, it's not Christian. - jerry
it looks like it IS Christian and Julia in bed - sassmcgregor
Heh. I just noticed there are two clips that looked like they could be Julia and Christian in bed. And I don't think we're referring to the same one.
The first is Christian, but the woman's face is in pillow and profile, and I couldn't decide whether that was Julia... so I'll defer to you on that one.
The second clip is the one I was voting to be not Christian, but Sean with Julia.
Onlooker
Jun 23, 2004 @ 6:29 am
It quite possible we won't see either one of them! Quite a few bits shown in previews last year never appeared in the final version.
By the way, episode 16 has officially arrived - its been added to the list on the FX Nip/Tuck site. Season 2 is now shown as running until October 5.
I can't wait to see last night's episode. How long was it in the end?
The Done One
Jun 23, 2004 @ 6:55 am
"I am not a cow!"
Lying bitch. What the hell was with Matt's hair?
michelec
Jun 23, 2004 @ 7:50 am
Boy was that a depressing episode…and what’s so bad about turning 40 anyway (asks someone who will be staring it down in a few months)
As usual Christian let his nether regions cloud his judgment when it came to the nanny but glad that he got it together in the end. Who in their right mind would give NyQuil to an infant? That stuff knocks out grown men. Wilbur is adorable, too bad he has a psychotic hag for a mother. You just know that kid’s gonna need therapy one day.
Looks like Sean is in for a tough time. I couldn’t watch him doing the surgeries because I just knew he was going to make a mistake. Self medication is never a good idea.
Liz continues to rock my world. Even though she’s snarky she has such a good heart.
I actually liked Julia in this episode, she seemed much less shrill and much more understanding of Sean. Moms is a piece of work and I can see her wreaking all sorts of havoc in Julia’s life.
I agree that the story with the woman and her gay friend was really dark. How in the world did she get away with bringing a firearm into the clinic?
I don’t like milk to begin with, so the breast milk scene didn’t put me off too much (and yes Gina, you are a cow).
Matt’s face still scares me. Nothing against JH, but I really wish they would recast.
Oh, and male ass shots always good.
katms
Jun 23, 2004 @ 8:13 am
Loved it. Loved. IT. I am so happy my show is back and continues to kick ass. I can see it wouldn’t be the greatest ep for a first time viewer, but for me (an n/t addict)? I was in heaven. The coming-this-season clips were so tantalizing and exciting – I can not wait!
Snorted out loud at the reaction shot of Christian recoiling from Gina’s kissy-face look at the birthday party. So funny. I didn’t think it was possible for me to hate the character of Gina more, but lo and behold, I can. Unfortunately (for me) the writers have taken her exactly where someone like that would go – manipulative, vengeful, threatening and vile. Oh my GOD what a nightmare – I cringe every time I see her. I winced seeing her in the line up at the party with her pissyface on. ciscokid – your first line of your post made me laugh so hard!!
Hooted out loud at the reveal of Christian/Erika at Shrewlia and Sean’s wedding – so awesome. God I love this sick show. And am so glad that the music use is still so outstanding – Billy Idol!!! I ran back in cuz I thought that must herald Escobar’s arrival. Hee! Soundtrack me NOW please!!
Question – did they mention Grace AT ALL?? Was I in the bathroom? Did they even mention the psychiatrist position at the practice? Please don’t tell me they’re dropping that story line after it was such a big deal from the very first episode. (I honestly would have loved Grace participating in the Erika/Christian consult – ok, I’ll stop my Grace mourning now…)
Liz looked gooooorgeous.
cuiusquemodi
Jun 23, 2004 @ 8:28 am
Rufus Wainwright's "Vibrate" and "So Nice" by Bebel Gilberto in the same episode? For that alone it gets an A.
True, but "Eyes Without A Face" during the surgery sequence? Just cruel. Equally cruel was the promise of nudity, only to end up being saggy male ass.
franabanana
Jun 23, 2004 @ 8:29 am
Not a bad episode. The whole 40 theme of growing up was overwrought - but, hey, that's Nip/Tuck!
Re: the breast milk - I don't think breast milk itself is gross. Maybe cause I breastfed my son for 14 months, it felt pretty normal to me. Don't get me wrong, NO WAY would I have someone suck me off instead of a breast pump. Not appropriate. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Gina is CRAYZEE. One night away from a kid will not make you so uncomfortable that you need to pump. Nor will it put you in danger of infection. She is so working her power over Christian. (P.S. Nipples do get huge. Yikes.)
The faghag murder was telegraphed early on. "Best friends." Gun. Jealousy. Bang. Duh.
The Julia/Vanessa storyline was OK, although it was fun to see the mother & daughter acting together.
michelec
Jun 23, 2004 @ 8:41 am
The faghag murder was telegraphed early on. "Best friends." Gun. Jealousy. Bang. Duh.
Bwah!
annlynn
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:00 am
Gina needs to chill the fuck out. Christan's not even the dad and he's paying for stuff and babysitting.
I hate that bitch. I just want Christian to tell her that if he can't see Wilbur than she gets NOTHING$!
Loved tonight's episode. So very little of mini-Michale Jackson a/k/a Matt. That kid freaks me out.
Julia's mother is a definite piece of work. I can see why Julia is so brittle.
That 25-year old orthopedic resident was crazy. I'm 28 and if a man such as Christian propositioned me, I would not turn him down due to his age.
Eboogie
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:00 am
Grace was not mentioned AT ALL. Which, during the whole consultation scene I was thinking, "They really need Grace for this one."
jjjodi
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:12 am
I really enjoyed last night. I think I'm in the minority, though, when I say that sometimes I find the music distracting. I think it's very clever but sometimes overdone.
VR rocked. I'm glad she'll be back for more episodes.
As much as I loved Grace, I think her role got played out. Obviously, as we can see from last night's episode, the clinic needs a shrink on staff. But, Grace's character has been pinned into a corner. But IMO, they would be left with having her retreading the same concerns about patients and the docs continuing to do the surgeries anyway. Ho-hum. They need some reference to her absence (and why they don't have a psych consult anymore), but I think they wrote her into a corner last season.
And I'm afraid they're doing that with Gina this season. I'm not a fan of one-dimensional characters, so I'm hoping they'll give Gina something more to do than screech. Though, in the case of the nanny, I gotta admit that Gina's screeching was spot on!
I think I'm in the minority on Matt, too. I think he's fine as an actor, and his looks are perfectly cast for a teenager. Teenage boys always look like they've got body parts that aren't growing in synch with each other. He's cute, but just odd enough to look like an awkwardly growing teen (even though the actor isn't one). I am so anxious to find out what happens with his storyline. Thanks to all the TWoPpers who noticed that it was him or his friend in the jumpsuit. I thought it was Sean! And I was really freaked by that prospect.
crazy_girl
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:20 am
Boy was that a depressing episode…and what’s so bad about turning 40 anyway (asks someone who will be staring it down in a few months)
Hey, I look forward. But then I'm not a hot shot nymphomaniac plastic surgeon in a beauty worshipping city.
rosjaq
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:25 am
And Vanessa just kicked all kind of ass.
Big word to that. She's been one of my favorite actresses for years and I hope I can be that brassy and look that good when I reach her age. Her scenes with Joely were great and that little squeal from Joely when Vanessa flashed her by the lockers was so genuine.
I usually have a very strong stomach and have been known to have a full meal while watching HBO's
Autopsy, but the milk montage made me look away. I've seen women use all sorts of manipulative means to get men into their lives, but I think this was the first time I'd seen such a shrewish use of lactating breasts.
Christian may be many things, but I do think he's trying to be a good father. The only thing I cannot understand is why, if he's in the role of a father, wouldn't he have gotten some sort of written paternity agreement from Gina? I'm spoiler free and hoping this will be addressed further on in the season, but it was on mind last night during the C/W scene at episode end.
Oh, and male ass shots always good.
Hee! And we got Lead Character Nudity last night which is extra good, not to mention Christian's
interviewing prowess. Yummy.
jencolefluke
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:37 am
Oh N/T, I have missed you!
Julia is looking better, but got a bit haggard as th show went on. I think they purposely do not make her up as they do other actors - in her movies, she looks completely different.
I swear, that was the most incredible face lift footage. If I did not know better, I would think that Vanessa Redgrave actually had a lift. Excellent editing.
Breastfeeding scene - totally bogus on so many levels.
The end was adorable - I do not agree that it was sad that Christian spent his birthday with a baby. I think that is exactly what he wanted to do.
Jeez! Such drama over turning 40! I did it last year and it is not that bad.
jennifuh
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:38 am
That was no nanny. That was a hooker. You can tell by those shoes.
I will kill my husband if he puts 40 candles on my birthday cake. Christian had the right idea with the 4 and the 0. And did you notice he had one chocolate and one vanilla cupcake? Just like father and son!
Julia really does look great and has mellowed some. Poor Sean and his yips. Whoever said they will cringe during every one of his surgeries, I'll be right there with you.
I believe Matt is 26 IRL, so I don't think his face will be changing much. Pity.
We also called the fag hag shooting, though I was waiting for a second shot for her. Thank goodness that the gun scene was of those two and not Sean and Grace or some woman, as I thought from the previews.
Speaking of Grace, I don't miss her. Christian's got his hands full with bitch Gina and adorable Wilbur. And, I'm sure, the chick from the bar who has his phone number. Come on, if you had Dr. Troy's number, would you delete it?
katms
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:45 am
I find it hard to believe, though, that they wouldn't have made the birthday party a 'dual' celebration, if their birthdays are that close...come on, Sean would have done something for Christian!! Alone w/Wilbur? I don't think so.
Re: the orthopedic resident 25 year old -- I would believe him being shot down based on his attitude, but NOT his looks. The over-the-top smarm, the playacting, the 'lines', the assumption of getting what he wants -- that's what's repellant, not the physical package. Good god.
jencolefluke
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:51 am
Yeah, what was up (literally) with those yellow pumps?
That chick in the bar had major issues. Okay the programming of the number was corny, but she was really mean. And to dance with the tool? Talking about cutting off your nose to spite you face.
The 40 candles was hil-ar-i-ous. I did that to my husband-it was hard to keep the candles from burning down it took so long to light them all...
JesseBaker
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:51 am
I don't think this was a good episode for a first-time viewer, but give it another chance. Last year’s premiere was much better, though
I disagree. The season two premire IMHO was a much better season opener and didn't have the taint of the "cliched gangland activities ramrodded into the plot for the sake of artificial tension" plot that the season opener has.
That being said it was a decent opener with the fact that they've gotten rid of the dead weight (the psychiatrist chick, who was just so annoying with her holier than now attitude towards everything that I wish she had gotten shot in the season one finale) and kept the asshole son's pressence in the episode to a bare minimum with hopefully him being sent away to prison to permenantly get rid of him.
Eboogie
Jun 23, 2004 @ 9:57 am
I don't think that this season premiere was good for new viewers in the sense that it was so dark, and doesn't really reflect Nip/Tuck as a whole. Unless, the whole season is going to be like this.
katms
Jun 23, 2004 @ 10:01 am
Minor annoyance -- couldn't they have tricked out Jessalyn Gilsig's bra or something? Those were the most nonlactating looking breasts ever.
Phreddd
Jun 23, 2004 @ 10:14 am
Only caught the last half-hour and little snippets between commercials on "The Daily Show", but it's nice to know that some things never change (i.e. Christian's hormones, and the nastiness they seem to instill in the women he's f**ked).
Would it be too obvious to restate that Sean and Julia have BIG PROBLEMS, and would've had problems even without Christian's little Sherman's-march-of-sex through her... and her mother... and Gina (who I thought was toxic enough
last season; she could go nuclear before this season ends, trust me.)... and the dumbass called-herself-"nanny"... and I've totally digressed.
Ah, Sean and Julia. A nice guy married to someone so clearly repressed but with a backstory like hers (and after checking out Erica, I can only assume the "repression" was by choice - getting as far away from her mother personality-wise as she could) is...
IN
FOR
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...the second the truths start revealing themselves. The yips could just be the beginning!
P.S.:
The faghag murder was telegraphed early on. "Best friends." Gun. Jealousy. Bang. Duh.
I prayed that the gay guy/disturbed fag hag situation (Can you say "stereotype," boys and girls?) wouldn't end the way it did (AND SCREAMED WHEN THE SHOT WAS FIRED), but if you see it as unfinished business on her part, it begins to make more sense.
Lila82
Jun 23, 2004 @ 10:21 am
All around great episode. I know many people seemed to love Grace, but I was very happy to see her go. I did like her as an antogonistic partner for Christian, but I also found the actress to be ungodly boring and difficult to watch. Just no energy whatsoever in her performance. This episode was dark, but what episode isn't? I found it very in tune with the canon...
Onto my critique...
I still love Christian/Julia. I just want to know what happened between them? How could he be Matt's father? I just love their connection and tension and strange chemistry. It's not that I really want them together, I usually fall for couples that can't be together, but a little insight into their history would be nice. And of course, lots of tense moments and maybe a little fall from grace. I'd love a little Christian/Julia affair.
Unlike most, Julia really doesn't bother me because I think she's very justified in her anger. She and Sean are both equally responsible for the destruction of their marriage, and but since Sean got more development it was easier to side with his character. I think this season will really delve into Julia a lot more and give her some depth. We didn't really get to see what makes her tick before, but her mother's arrival should spur some Julia characterization.
Vanessa Redgrave was awesome as Erica. I'm very young myself, but I could understand her obsession with aging and I thought it was a great contrast to Sean's newest problem. She was funny snarking at Julia, surprisingly vulnerable with Christian, and just all around great arguing with Sean. Her character had more depth in one episode then Grace did all last season and I appreciated understanding her from the get go. Also, considering I 'ship Christian/Julia, as sick as it was that he was picturing her daughter, it warmed my heart to know he was thinking of Julia.
Now my boys...still hate Gina. She needs a new line and some motivation. She is so evil to Christian after all he's done for her and Wilbur! Just totally ungreatful and nasty and you know she's gonna try and get full custody. As for Wilbur...totally adorable. Christian was totally Christian with the nanny, and what was Nicole thinking? Daddy or no Daddy, I wouldn't have turned him down! His scenes with Wilbur, the birthday party just for two, were heartbreaking and I know it's going to end badly. He has grown such a heart to accept Wilbur as his own and it makes sense that as he struggles to grow older he turns to the one person that accepts him no matter what. Wilbur is the best thing that's happened to him. And as for Sean...this yips thing should be interesting. Can't wait for another major crisis and Sean slipping into the darkside. He's due for some ethical cleansing.
Other folks...you knew the murder was coming and it was very sad. I really liked cute Chad! Those scenes did showcase Grace's glaring absence though because any longtime fans know she would have turned Libby down, but as usual, the client's problems fit in seamlessly with Sean/Christian's dilemas. And Liz looked fabulous. I love that Roma Mafia is a regular now. Yeah, "Profiler"!!!
All around great episode, great choice of music, and looks like a great season.
franabanana
Jun 23, 2004 @ 10:58 am
And did you notice he had one chocolate and one vanilla cupcake? Just like father and son!
Awwwwwww. So cute. I did love that scene. I also liked how his "wish" was really a prayer. Probably the first prayer he's said since he finished Catholic school.
I thought Sean's ass looked pretty good. And Christian -rrrooooooowrrrr. Yum. But the sex with the Skankananny was so so wrong.
I did have to laugh at the Binkytini. Not good. I love her rationale - "it's over the counter!" Yeah, for adults, skank-head. Not that I would ever give meds like that to a baby, but toddlers sometimes benefit from small doses of
Children's Benadryl on long car trips. I'm just saying.
franabanana
Jun 23, 2004 @ 11:00 am
ETa - sorry double post.
Britty
Jun 23, 2004 @ 11:03 am
It didn't exactly have the shock effect of the first season premiere
We're such a jaded bunch! I loved it. I'm so happy that the show is back and that the second season looks so promising.
Christian: Okay, but I'm not swallowing.
Gina: Why not? I do.
Wilbur is adorable.
jencolefluke
Jun 23, 2004 @ 11:04 am
yup - cold medicine (children's type) is used for airplane trips, tho' it's usage is still contreversial.
Regarding Gina's boobs - it would have been really funny if they did give her some nursing boobs (ie bigger) or at least a nursing bra - that victoria's secret thing was soooo not what a nursing mom would wear.
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