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leaping lucas
But then that doesn't work, so "Jerelle" kidnaps Clark and reprograms him to find the Krystals. It's his destiny!
But then that doesn't work, either, so "Jerelle" tries to appeal to Clark's "goodness". "If you don't collect the stones, then some really bad stuff will happen to earth. So, go do it! It's your destiny!


Perhaps it's all some kind of kickass parenting technique for meglomaniac alien children. Sort of "The Nanny:Krypton style."

Eat your dinner. It's your Destiny! Go clean your room. It's your Destiny! Go stand in the Phantom Zone. It's your Destiny!"


Or maybe those Smallville bozos can't write for shit.
sevenless
I always thought that the writers planned ahead, actually writing out a game plan. But with these stones it seems like they just winged it, throwing in stuff as they went along.

The S5 season opener is going to be irritating to watch, because we all know that everything from the S4 season ender will have been resolved off camera. They'll just make vague references to it.

Clark: Lana, how's your leg?
Lana: All healed and better. Are you ready to go? Our Calc class starts in five minutes.
The happy couple drive off to community college, where they meet a FoTW...
LastScorpion
They could decide that Lionel will awaken with the personality of a golden marmoset.


I love this idea! It ties right into the possibility of my favorite pairing, too, since marmosets and squirrels are both large rodents.

Liona forever, baby!
jediknight
I just had a strange thought. There's been spec as to what came down in the meteor shower, we've heard Zod, Braniac, and the Eradicator. What if it's Mongul, or they try to bring in Imperiex? Granted Imperiex would work worlds better as a movie, because it involves the entire DC universe, and Imperiex is one massive mofo. Also it's one huge war that involves the death of many, and Lex Luthor was president during that time. That would certainly end Smallville with a bang.
Xenith
My first thought when I saw the spaceship was something much scarier... Kara... The real person who turn into SG.. Hell they already jerked us once with someone who could have been Clark's cousin, and under its current setup Smallville is gonna have a hard time lasting past next season as we know that at some point Clark & Company are gonna leave town... So bring in a 12-15 year old Kara & have the ability to continue it beyond season 5 (probably still be cancelled in season 6 as any show that stupid and contrived should, baring some kind of miracle befalling the writing team... But wouldn't put it past Al to try to ride his gravy train as long as possible...)
Cyb
Xenith, you scare me. Bringing in a teen or preteen Kara seems just like the kind of thing they'd do! She'd be the new Dawn (see Buffy the Vampire Slayer's last couple of seasons).
Dr. Zubin
So Lois AND Kara would be living at the Kent farm? They'd have to rename it the Kent Center for Wayward Guest Stars.
sevenless
Oh dear god, no. No more Karas, Loises, or any other crazy/whiny/obnoxious/boring characters. Maybe Lana will jump in the spaceship and never be heard from again.
Dr. Zubin
Maybe it's Zaphod Beetlebrox, looking to pick up another hitchhiker. Although after a few hours of putting up with Lana, he'd be dying to hear some Vogon poetry...

I think I've safetly established my nerd creds now.
iamnotafish
I'm thinking Zod would be a choice, or Kara, or Preus (sp?). Or, it could be nothing and they conviniently forget about it.

I have heard that next season is the last and will tie into the movie so they might have the introduction to the main movie villain there. Who knows?

I wouldn't be surprised if the spaceship turned out to be nothing though.
Cyb
Maybe all the season 4 episodes are in the black ship and they've been sent to destroy the earth. It's up to Clark to trap the episodes in the Phantom Zone where they can never, ever hurt precious earthlings again.
Dread
Voice from Ship: "Hmm? Look like Dagobah, this does not..."

Nah, my guess would be another superpowered, but Evil! alien. Since his first sight of earth would be Lana, it's got to be male. So he can fall hopelessly in Love with her and when she refuses to put out, he can threaten to destroy the entire world...

Unless Lana agrees to Marry him.
Bo deBovine
She'd be the new Dawn (see Buffy the Vampire Slayer's last couple of seasons).


Ugh, that was bad enough on a well-written show. Could you imagine if AlMiles&Co. decided to do that? Where's that dull spoon....?
Cyb
This would never happen, so it's more wishful thinking than Speculation:

When the New Black Ship opens, out steps a tall, handsome young man claiming to be Kal-El, the last son of Krypton. He tells Lana (mistaking her for a friendly, but injured squirrel) that his father Jor-El (note the correct pronunciation) has sent him to protect earth from Badness. Lana, in a huffy whisper, points out that sending a bunch of meteors was a stupid way to protect earth.

New Kal says that wasn't his fault. He was trying to stop the meteors, which were triggered by some silly little squirrel stabbing someone with one of the Magic Krystals. "Well that wasn't really my fault either," Lana whispers. New Kal, being the heroic sort, hears cries of distress coming from the Evil Caves and zips off at superspeed to rescue Chloe. He's immediately struck by her hotness. I guess he rescues Lex, too, although he can stay in there until he stops being 2-dimensional as far as I care.

In a turnaround from the Chlarkana triangle, New Kal falls in love with Chloe and Lana becomes his confidante. She even agrees to keep his Sekreth, since it's OK to lie to people as long as she's the one doing it.

By the time Clark comes back from the Fortress of Snowitude, he's all ready to fight this big threat, only he finds out this other guy's been claiming to be the real Kal-El. Identity crisis! Bad news for Clark, New Kal thinks he's the Badness he's been sent to fight. Lionel, now programmed with kryptonian language skillz much like Dr. Walden, concurs. Oh and I guess he's less comatose at this point, too.

This continues until right before Winter Hiatus when it finally occurs to slow!Clark to go back to the caves to ask Jerelle (note the improper pronunciation) about this New Kal guy. "New Kal is a clone/robot/alternate universe hottie, and NOT the Last Son of Krypton. Or IS he?!" Hiatus!

Meanwhile, Chloe has been introducing New Kal to the joys of Hot Monkey Sex, human style.
ciaan
Cyb, is New Kal played by TW as well, or does he look different from Clark?
Cyb
Cyb, is New Kal played by TW as well, or does he look different from Clark?

He looks different so that no one makes the connection between New Kal and Clark. But, like Clark, he's gifted with underwear model Kryptonian good looks. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head to play the role, though. Who's about TW's age, maybe a year or two younger, and really hot? Someone Jensen Ackles-y but not Jensen Ackles, would be good.
ainoarwen
Who's about TW's age, maybe a year or two younger, and really hot?

I hereby nominate James Franco for the role. He's sizzling hot (at least in my opinion) and can act!
wrighty555
What if the man in the ship is BIZARRO!!!!
leaping lucas
Yeah Cyb.

But as New Kal steps down from the spaceship, behind him on the gangway, bathed in light a la Obi-Wan, emerges --- Old Lex.

That's right. Some weird dohicky ancient crystal thingy preserved Old Lex, the Real Lex, and magically transported him to the spaceship. He's a bit dazed, but he's already got plans to eject the two-dimensional imposter in the cave. He looks all magnificent like that, fired by the light of his determination.
Lucy Wiggin
Heh. Sorry, Cyb, but I can't think of anybody who looks as good as Tom Welling. Therefore we should replace him as Clark with another actor and let him be the new Kal-El. It's not like Clark's very important in the story, anyway;-)
Cyb
He looks all magnificent like that, fired by the light of his determination.

I like that, leaping. Old Lex has been recovering from his poisoning all year, thanks to the help of alien technology.

If they hadn't already blown their wad with Jensen Ackles, I think he'd be a fine New Kal. The Kents could even take him in (hey someone has to fix up the place with Clark in the Fortress of Snowitude) and when Clark comes back, he'll be jealous. Oh, and Clark will tell New Kal that he should be honest with Chloe about his origins and New Kal can call him a big honking hypocrite. This will finally spur Clark to have The Talk with Chloe.

Of course, like I said, this is all wishful thinking. What'll probably happen instead is the ship opens up, some alt-crap-pop band from another planet steps out, and begins to serenade Lana.
ciaan
Sigh, yes, I want Lex back.


I nominate Brandon Quinn to play New Kal. His character in the same type as Clark managed to stay a nice guy, despite having similar problems. He might need to bulk up a bit to be opposite TW, though.

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Lucy Wiggin
Wish TPTB hadn't already used the Kevin Grady actor. He could have been a great Kal, now that I think of the matter (although still not as hot as TW). Maybe they can bring back Kevin in season 5, cured (because they shouldn't be allowed to use memory loss again.ever.) and set him up as Chloe's new, nice, good looking boyfriend.
Clark, of course, will get all jealous, but it will be too late.
SweetiepieEyed
Hmm for the new Kal, how about Jason Behr
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1061/E...,%20Jason%20(I)

MMM Yummy
Lucy Wiggin
Dunno, he'd probably play Kal in the same wooden manner he played Roswell's Max, and we really don't need another BDA around (or not-so-big dumb alien, in this case).
conejito1627
I wish they bring back Adam Brody.. (I know, he appeared in season 1, BUT he is really cute), because they should look for a normal boyfriend for Chloe. I mean, she always get involved with not "normal" guys... It is depressing.. . And, even though Adam had already appeared in the show as one of the krypto freaks of the week, he could be someone else. I had heard that some people had appeared more than once in different roles, at different seasons, of couuuursee... =P
wrighty555
I wish they bring back Adam Brody.. (I know, he appeared in season 1, BUT he is really cute), because they should look for a normal boyfriend for Chloe. I mean, she always get involved with not "normal" guys... It is depressing.. . And, even though Adam had already appeared in the show as one of the krypto freaks of the week, he could be someone else. I had heard that some people had appeared more than once in different roles, at different seasons, of couuuursee... =P


This will never happen now that the shows are in direct competition with each other. But nice thought anyway.
smallvillefanatic
But wrighty didn't the OC's "You're in the OC, bitch"-guy guest star? I was wondering about that too.


I really, really want Kevin Grady back. Not as a new kal or whatever, old kal's just fine, but KG was a very sympathetic fotw, wasn't irritating in that way where you hoped he'd be shipped off to Belle Reeve in the end of the ep...They should bring him back as Chloe's love interest (Lana's had damn near enough), an ally to Clark, or both. He just seems too good to let go (like SC's Alicia) so I'm glad they didn't leave Blank off on a bad note like they did with Obsession, leaving the door open for a good return.
SweetiepieEyed
They should bring him back as Chloe's love interest
I dont care really who they bring back, or if they bring in someone new. They really need a love intreast for Chloe though. It is to hard to belive someone as intelegent and as goegeous as Chloe would have nobody sniffing after her. I mean I am a straight female and I will admit I would be after her. it is totally unbelivable that someone who looks like Chloe would not have an admirer.

I nominate Brandon Quinn to play New Kal

only if they let DANNY SMITH play his loyal, but not so brave sidekick goth friend. Gotta love BIG WOLF ON CAMPUS. Hey DANNY can borrow Chloe's eyeliner, he can be CHAD
ciaan
That's genius. We do need to see Chad. And the fact that I adore Danny Smith isn't making me biased at all, oh no.
Dr. Zubin
They should bring him back as Chloe's love interest
I dont care really who they bring back, or if they bring in someone new. They really need a love intreast for Chloe though. It is to hard to belive someone as intelegent and as goegeous as Chloe would have nobody sniffing after her. I mean I am a straight female and I will admit I would be after her. it is totally unbelivable that someone who looks like Chloe would not have an admirer.


She's plain, but she's "TV" plain, ya know?
sevenless
I'm thinking S5 will open with Clark making snowmen.
Cyb
Will there be any snow women or can we expect a lot of HoSnowYay?
wrighty555
Will there be any snow women or can we expect a lot of HoSnowYay?


HoSnowYay? Brilliant!!! You just invented a knew Smallville phrase that undoubtably will be all over fanfics for the summer.. :)
mobiusklein
I wonder if S5 will open with Lana in a skimpy bikini and high heels washing a car, squeezing foam all over herself, fellating a Coke bottle and declaring "That's so cooooooool" (that's a riff off the Paris Hilton/Burger King commercial by the way) Oh, and to make it the least bit Supey, they'll make the bikini and the car in primary colors.
Massena1
It always irks me a little when movies/tv shows cast beautiful women in roles as brainy types, but then expect me to believe that b/c they are brainy, no one is interested in them. That actually bears no relationship to any reality I've experienced. One of the worst offenders was the movie, Boomerang in which Halle Berry played second fiddle to the more sexually overt Robin Givens. HALLE BERRY. Give me a break. Smallville is guilty of the same, imo. There is no way I can believe that Chloe Sullivan didn't get asked to the Prom.

They better follow through with the Jimmy Olsen tease and he better be a cutie or I'll be hacked.
Lucy Wiggin
Massena1, I see it as part of the cultural backlash against women. The great lie that tells you that you have to make a choice: brains or beauty. And it's very obvious what the DOMOS want you to choose.

Smallville is guilty of the same, imo. There is no way I can believe that Chloe Sullivan didn't get asked to the Prom.


It's their way of punishing the character. I think TPTB know they need her, plot-wise, but they can't stand it that she's more popular than their precious (passive and needy) Lana.
conejito1627
This will never happen now that the shows are in direct competition with each other. But nice thought anyway.


yes, you are right.. I didnt remember that... but it was really just a wish, it is not that Al Gough and Miles M. take my ideas for making new chapters or anything.. =)
conejito1627
It's their way of punishing the character. I think TPTB know they need her, plot-wise, but they can't stand it that she's more popular than their precious (passive and needy) Lana.


I think exactly the same way.. I dont know why they need to punish her, bcause she is great, and yeah, she is more popular than that little b..... Lana..
Lucy Wiggin
I dont know why they need to punish her, bcause she is great


She had sex! Out of wedlock! She's eeeevol and must be punished. Like Lex.

Maybe this should go to the bitterness thread...but aren't all threads full of it these days?
sevenless
It always irks me a little when movies/tv shows cast beautiful women in roles as brainy types, but then expect me to believe that b/c they are brainy, no one is interested in them. That actually bears no relationship to any reality I've experienced. One of the worst offenders was the movie, Boomerang in which Halle Berry played second fiddle to the more sexually overt Robin Givens. HALLE BERRY. Give me a break. Smallville is guilty of the same, imo. There is no way I can believe that Chloe Sullivan didn't get asked to the Prom.
And someone who looks like Tom would never be considered a geek.
mobiusklein
The opening credits, are they going to change them? I'm sure they at the very least have to take Jason out. Since (as far as I know) ED remains a guest actress, hopefully THIS TIME, they move AM up a notch?

Also, the way I figure it, since this season opening credits were all about Blana, I wonder if they're going to make them more Lois-centric or not.
leaping lucas
I think the opening credits will be your Lana washing the car in the primary coloured bikini and high heels scenario, if that article linked in the Media thread is to be believed.
Dr. Zubin
Speaking for myself, I'd love to see a big Chloe/Clark blow-up. I'd like to see Chloe brimming with resentment that Clark didn't tell her his secret, doesn't pay any attention to her, doesn't know that she loves him. I'd like to see Clark be an asshat, be defensive, be a jerk... until finally he just says "I'm sorry" and they're all hugging and crying and "We'll always be friends!"
sevenless
Perhaps the new opening credits will be Clark, Lex, Chloe and Lana hugging. The music will be the Friends theme song.
UndergroundMan
Perhaps the new opening credits will be Clark, Lex, Chloe and Lana hugging.


Chloe getting affection from any of the characters is strictly verboten and Lex and Clark touching would have too much non-approved Hoyay. More likely Lex will watch the Clana from his evil castle, yearning for his lost love. Chloe will be shovelling dirt as Lois keeps pushing her into it. And plenty of shots from S1.
mobiusklein
You know that secret storyline. I think it's worthless. Why? Because you know and I know that they'll pull a "spirit." They'll build it up so Chloe and Clark should have all their cards on the table but Lana will waltz right in with a halo and get everything she wants on a silver platter.

That's why I have no patience with people who claim that the dance at the prom was a farewell thing and that we should be patient. I feel like chastising them "Ah . . . .no. You should know AlMiles and Jeph Loeb by now."

The Clana fluffing is Clana fluffing, they're just trying to pass it off Lois praising Lana as an ironic humor anvil but in the end the iron and the humor is just frosting while they try to pass off the stale cake of the Clana fluffing down our throats."

That stupid Isobel storyline which SHOULD indicate she hates weirdness, they'll try to pass off as making her learn to accept weirdness even though she's never around to learn anything when she's possessed half the time. It's like how her fans try to use Extinction as a sign of how wonderfully accepting she'd be. Good grief.

So S5 is more Lois fluffing Lana, Lana probably getting possessed by something so KK's acting is more tolerable, Chloe being peed on and probably slain to kickstart Clark's and Lois' business and also so they can do moony stars over her coffin, more Verizon wireless messages about Lex, everybody in wuv with Lana, dead Jonathan, ghost!Martha, shots of Shelby, and Clark still acting like a doofus until the last 2 or 3 episodes of S5 and trying to be Supey at the last minute and the entire town of SV acting hypocritical when they chase Lex out of town but promptly blame him for their unemployment.
wrighty555
Ah . . . .no. You should know AlMiles and Jeph Loeb by now."


Didn't Jeph Loeb leave the show before this year?
mobiusklein
I did hear he's been working on some comics, I didn't hear about the leaving part. I assumed that AlMiles always had to have someone from DC looking over their shoulders.
MartaDolores
Word to everything in mobiusklein's post. When S3 ended the way it did, I really did think AlMiles were going to take stock of their show's faults and fix everything. But if S4's taught me anything, it's that nothing will steer them from this dreadful course they're set on, nothing.
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